Gates Spins Increased Violence In Afghanistan As A ‘Manifestation’ That The Taliban ‘Has Lost’
Gates Spins Increased Violence In Afghanistan As A ‘Manifestation’ That The Taliban ‘Has Lost’
In two major reports released this week, retired Marine Corps Gen. James Jones concludes that “progress achieved after six years” in Afghanistan “is under serious threat.” “Make no mistake, NATO is not winning in Afghanistan,” said the Jones-led the report by the Atlantic Council.
Yesterday, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates attempted to spin the negative downturn in Afghanistan, claiming that “NATO has had a very successful year in 2007″ and that the significant increase in suicide bombings in 2007 was the “manifestations of a group that has lost in regular military terms“:
Gates conceded there’s “a rising security issue” there, but said “it’s because the Taliban are turning to terrorism, having failed in conventional military conflict with the NATO allies.”
“And so we are seeing more suicide bombings, more use of (improvised explosive devices), and so on. These are actions of people whose conventional military efforts have failed,” he said. “The rise in violence and attacks like we saw in Kabul are manifestations of a group that has lost in regular military terms in 2007 and is turning to terrorism as a substitute for that.”
Arguing that increased acts of violence are signs of progress is a common Bush administration tactic:
- In June 2007, then-White House Press Secretary Tony Snow described intense new levels of violence in Iraq as “signs of success.”
- After the Samarra Mosque was bombed in 2006 — setting off a wave of sectarian violence in Iraq that verged on civil war — Vice President Dick Cheney dismissed the attack as a sign that insurgents had “reached a stage of desperation.”
- In May 2005, then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared that “So suicide attacks, whether in Okinawa or in Baghdad today, are not a sign of strength. They’re a sign of desperation.”
- In March 2004, “in a trio of interviews with cable news outlets yesterday,” Vice President Cheney “brushed off the attacks as a sign of ‘desperation’ among U.S. foes.”
A true sign of desperation is an administration trying to equate increasing acts of violence with “signs of success.”
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Oh, of course! Why doesn’t everyone see that?
It’s simple: less violence means we’re winning. And so does more violence.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pmPrecisely what you have claimed to be fighting against since 2003.
Isn’t this great?
February 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pmSo when thousands are dying every single day, we’ll know for sure we’ve won.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm/sarc
Bush Speak:
More violence = success
Simple logic, what ever you mean, just say the opposite, just repeat it enough and have your talking heads repeat it and it becomes reality, easy.
Buck Fush
February 1st, 2008 at 7:23 pm“it’s because the Taliban are turning to terrorism, having failed in conventional military conflict with the NATO allies.â€
A smart enemy changes tactics to meet the changing situation. I hate to agree with a McBush observation but he is right.
Its a different version of “whack a mole,”
February 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pmThere’s been alot more love for the soldier since SECDEF Gates came on, but we’re still doing the job with a Rumsfailed army.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pmA true sign of desperation is an administration trying to equate increasing acts of violence with “signs of success.â€
TP is right on here, in my view.
This is another sign of desperation from this floundering administration, flopping around in the quicksand of their own failed foreign policy.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pmI’m not impressed with the stupidity of these neocons anymore.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pmok, this guy’s nothing compared to muckasey.
now that guy is smart and so, so evil.
he’s like cheney on dr. strangelove acid.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:30 pmHitler won WWII, sure….ok……up is down,white is black…got it.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pmi have yet to encounter a more formidable figure than muckasey. karl rove has nothing on this guy’s literally magical powers.
to call him grossly sinister would be overtly timid.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pmWhat good is it if the enemy has “lost in regular military terms”? It just means we are fighting them on their terms now. And I’m surprised if we have been fighting ANYBODY over in the ME on “regular military terms” — it seems we have always been fighting people who use what we call terrorist tactics.
Sorry, Gates — your spin doesn’t sound encouraging. It sounds more like we need to fasten our safety belts for more of the same.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pmThese are actions of people whose conventional military efforts have failed,†he said.
Had the American Patriots stood and fought the red coats as the British wanted them to, we would still be a colony. This idiot sounds like he is using a version of “sour grapes.” (Yeah, well if they would just come out and fight like men, we would show them!)
February 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pmREALLY? you won?
good…send the troops home
February 1st, 2008 at 7:37 pmGates conceded there’s “a rising security issue†there…
BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa
“a rising security issue BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa
February 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pmYeah, last throes and such…
Hey there’s a party at TheZoo, Music Night.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pmFrom the link in the article:
Vice President Cheney, in a trio of interviews with cable news outlets yesterday, brushed off the attacks as a sign of “desperation” among U.S. foes — a response the administration has used for other bloody setbacks in Iraq.
And this was 2004
They are still doing it today in 2008!
The needle is stuck in the same groove. (Ooops, that goes back a-ways, doesn’t it?)
February 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm“the taliban are turning to terrorism..”??? - i thought they were already terrorists…but then again they were freedom fighters when they were taking on the russian occupation…why didn’t bush use rove’s brain and slip the israelis a few billion to go in there and wipe ‘em all out 5 years ago….after all,they spanked egypt in 6 days…seems like they know how to fight in their own environment given the right motivation
February 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pmWhy did Chimpy pick this a-hole for the job? Why?
Because his dad’s presidential library is at Texas A&M?
Heckava job, Shrubie!
February 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pmAfghanistan is experiencing increasing numbers of suicide bombings.
These deadly tactics were virtually unknown in Afghanistans until recently.
So where did the Taliban learn these tactics???
The Jihadi University of Iraq.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pmLast Throes 2.0
February 1st, 2008 at 8:11 pmWhen i talk about war what I mean is peace.
-George W. Bush
Gates is just staying on board the Bush/Orwell Express.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:24 pmThe Taliban? Terrorists? Whaaa???
No! Not THE TALIBAN???
I can’t BELIEVE that THEY’d sink so low as to be sneakin’ around like that… I’ve always expected so much more from them… pathetic!
And isn’t terrorism pretty much out of fashion these days? Good lord, do they have ANY idea how they must look?… in a word, darling, simply FRIGHTFUL!
Wow! Who would EVER have imagined we’d see the day when MUSLIMS would turn to terrorism?… golly, that’s just so unlike the people of the Middle East…
I wonder who’s putting these fancy new ideas in their heads, anyway???… probably IRAN. Betcha any money!
And even if I’m wrong, I don’t want to wait around to find out in the form of a MUSHROOM CLOUD! We’d better attack them first, and SOON!
Yes… it all makes PERFECT sense!
HOORAY! WE WIN AGAIN!
President Evil Online has risen from the grave!
February 1st, 2008 at 8:33 pmGates conceded there’s “a rising security issue†there, but said “it’s because the Taliban are turning to terrorism, having failed in conventional military conflict with the NATO allies.â€
Tell me again: Assuming what he says is correct; how is this a good thing?!?!?
Cheers,
February 1st, 2008 at 8:38 pmI keep remembering the joke about the kid on the team who is behind 89 to 0. The kid keeps insisting that they are in a tie game because they haven’t been at bat yet.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:52 pmIsn’t this the same schmoe that was insulting NATO allies last week?
Heckuva job dicksmack.
-GSD
February 1st, 2008 at 8:54 pmAh, the Bush gangsters: so full of crap, that you really can’t tell which end it’s coming out of…
February 1st, 2008 at 8:55 pmIt’s not desperation. They just don’t give a sh*t!
February 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pmGates is doing the job he was paid to do. Look Americans have sit back and believed the White House lies for 7 years what makes anyone think anything will change. Soldiers have died everyday in Iraq while General Petraeus lies and say things are great. Today over 200 Iraq people died and two US soldiers were killed but no problem as the White House reports things are great. Now you we why the Economy is so bad and we have no Justice System, Americans believe what ever lies the Media and White House report.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:15 pmOT, but could be related…
i remember the first post this morning on FAST:
Again, for the second time in about a week, an underwater cable has been cut, leaving millions in the middle east without internet. Anyone else worried that someone is planning something over there? I might be just seeing things, but TWO cable breaks in a week when there hasn’t been one for years before that? I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled.
Comment by robertoroberto — February 1, 2008 @ 11:31 am
then you probably have heard about this, just found on google news:
Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast
February 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pm(CNN) — An undersea cable carrying Internet traffic was cut off the Persian Gulf emirate of Dubai, officials said Friday, the third loss of a line carrying Internet and telephone traffic in three days.
Ships have been dispatched to repair two undersea cables damaged on Wednesday off Egypt.
[…]
The new episode of “LOST” could certainly use a Gates character, as he’s about as lost as you can get.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:27 pmAs an Aggie Ex, I believed that Bob Gates offered a fresh voice in the Bush disaster. Now, he is falling into the lock step mentality of the current administration. I have never seen a man step dowm fro his basic beliefs so rapidly. Sul Ross and Earle Rudder must be spinning in their graves as fast as a infinite mass black hole.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:46 pmI actuallly did a spell check on that last post. No reds! What happened?
February 1st, 2008 at 9:48 pmResend:
As an Aggie Ex, I believed that Bob Gates offered a fresh voice in the Bush disaster. Now, he is falling into the lock step mentality of the current administration. I have never seen a man step down from his basic beliefs so rapidly. Sul Ross and Earle Rudder must be spinning in their graves as fast as a infinite mass black hole.
The ABC Check seems to have stopped working.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:55 pm“[…] manifestations of a group that has lost in regular military terms in 2007 […]”
Uhm, it could just be me, but I was under the impression the Taliban never actually fought in “regular military terms”.
So, to try to measure success or failure against them in regular military terms is a fool’s errand.
[…]and is turning to terrorism as a substitute for that.â€
Uhm, isn’t this the reason why the US invaded Afghanistan in the first place? You know, because the Taliban were associated with terrorists?
February 1st, 2008 at 9:57 pmThank you, Bob. We were really wondering if the little old U.S. armed forces could defeat mighty Afghanistan in military teams and conventional warfare.
What we can do to blow people up and shoot people when we know where they are is not the problem. If we had wanted to erase Baghdad or Kabul not using nukes that would’ve been even faster then marching in there.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:58 pmGood, clear thinking, Gregor Samsa. Obviously you’re not in the Administration.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pmGates conceded there’s “a rising security issue†there, but said “it’s because the Taliban are turning to terrorism, having failed in conventional military conflict with the NATO allies.â€
In other words, dead-enders II.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pmDoes Rumsfeld write his stuff too??? TOO MUCH KOOLAIDE!!!!
February 1st, 2008 at 10:33 pmGates and W and Dick etc. like the poppy.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:36 pmOf course its a success. They’re making obscene amounts of money! If someone pointed a gun at Robert Gates he’s shit and piss his pants so quick you’d think he think it was a volcanic eruption and Old Faithful geyser rolled into one.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:36 pmOf course its a success….have you read how much poppy they are growing.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:39 pmYa know, Mr Evil, that was a little more of a visual than I need right now, but I do agree w/ the point you were making.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:42 pmYou can’t discuss success in Afghanistan without discussing the poppy crop. Who is making all the money off of the world’s leading Heroin source?
February 1st, 2008 at 10:42 pmMore violence (in Afghanistan) = success
Less violence (in Iraq) = success
Oh. Ok.
(only one thing is sure: this administration’s minions do hedge their bets)
February 1st, 2008 at 10:47 pmTurning the corner…turning…turning…
February 1st, 2008 at 10:47 pm#42 Republic of Stupidity: Sorry, just my description of your basic neocon chickenhawk.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:49 pmI think yer stuck in an octagon, Sabyen…
Decahedron?
Duodecahedron?
February 1st, 2008 at 10:50 pmHas it come to the point where this administration is so inept that they are content to recycle old arguments rather think up something new?
February 1st, 2008 at 10:50 pmOh, I understand, Mr Evil…
Somewhere there’s a joke waiting to be made about brown shirts, and pants, and socks, and…
February 1st, 2008 at 10:51 pmGeez, from the look on Gates’ face in that picture, he must be spending some time w/ Bush in the Toy King’s personal bubble.
Mebbe a leeetle too much time, if ya get my drift…
February 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pmWe just need another 6 months to be sure of our success.
February 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm#50 RoS: He’s being fluffed by Jeff Gannon!
February 1st, 2008 at 10:55 pmBrown shirts, etc. Instead of ‘Sieg Heil’ what will we be forced to say?
February 1st, 2008 at 10:56 pm“I think yer stuck in an octagon, Sabyen…
Decahedron?
Duodecahedron?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 1, 2008 @ 10:50 pm”
I only turn 90 degrees. I am not sure how many times I have gone in a square though.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:03 pmWell, Mr Evil, it’s nice to know that Jeffy Lube still has some sort of “job” to perform for the Admin, seein’ as KKKarl is gone from the WH.
Didn’t Jeffy go to the WH sumpin like a hunnerd ‘n eighty times, or so? I wonder if any of those were sleep overs?
Say, what ever happened to Jeffy’s tell-all book?
February 1st, 2008 at 11:08 pmComment by Sabyen91 — February 1, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
What??? No isosceles triangles?
February 1st, 2008 at 11:10 pmComment by Mr. Evil — February 1, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
Heil Brusch? And will Herr Brusch say, “heil me”?
February 1st, 2008 at 11:11 pmJeffy probably got ‘disappeared’.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:12 pm“What??? No isosceles triangles?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 1, 2008 @ 11:10 pm”
There are no isosceles triangles in foxholes, soldier!!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:13 pmCaption Contest:
February 1st, 2008 at 11:18 pmWhy is this man smiling?
Jesus, I thought we were going weird at TheZoo. :-D
February 1st, 2008 at 11:19 pm#60 Wayne A. Schneider: Read post #52.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:20 pmComment by Sabyen91 — February 1, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
Nor are there right angles, Sir! Given the pejorative connotations the word “right’ has taken on at this point, we’re going to have to find a new name for “the angle formerly known as right”…
February 1st, 2008 at 11:23 pmCan we call him Baghdad Bob now?
February 1st, 2008 at 11:23 pmGawd, that smile creeps me out.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:25 pmPerpendicular rotation?
February 1st, 2008 at 11:27 pmI’ll just revert to saying a 90 degree angle.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:27 pmHmmm… 90 degrees… neither acute nor obtuse…
Are you pandering to the middle, sir?
February 1st, 2008 at 11:35 pmPerdendicular rotation… I thought that was Gannon’s specialty…
February 1st, 2008 at 11:36 pmI “pander” to no one. However I’ve been known to ponder. Maybe I’ll start pandering to those into pondering. I’ll shall now ponder on how not to pander.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:42 pmSure is TRoS. That is why Rove always looks butt-hurt.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:44 pmJeff Gannon sure likes Karl’s big fat white mushy butt!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:45 pmComment by Mr. Evil — February 1, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
…how not to pander to those that ponder over pandering?
The vessel with the pestle…
February 1st, 2008 at 11:48 pmEwww… Mr Evil!
That’s TWO visuals I could w/out, in one night…
My dinner just voted unanimously to redeploy from my stomach immediately.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm,em>has lost in regular military terms in 2007 and is turning to terrorism as a substitute for that.
after all that has gone on the past 7 years all you can do is shake your head and say what a jackass! These repuglioservoneocon clowns are still waiting for “the enemy” to assemble an army on the plains of Abraham so they can have their grand orgasm slaughtering them with their high-tech gizzmos - Earth to neocons: nahgonnahappin.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:52 pm.
Is it Armageddon… or Crockabaloney, sports fans? You make the call!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:56 pmVomit, regurgitate, hurl, blow chunks, ralph, yak, barf, Mt. St. Helens, puke, upchuck. Yes, I know, Jeff and Karl together. Oh no, I’ll be back…
February 1st, 2008 at 11:58 pmSee, Mr Evil?
Ya did it to yerself, too! Oh, the price we pay…
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 amHey, I bet Jeff and Karl are Scat freaks! Ewwwwwww!
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 amDon’t forget Vitter or Craig, while yer at it…
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 am“(…)the significant increase in suicide bombings in 2007 was the “manifestations of a group that has lost in regular military terms“
What do you expect guerrillas to do - line up like the redcoats in 18th Century and fire off musket salvos?
Of course they will fight asymetrically - with ambushes, bombs, terror and the like.
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 amLarry “Wide Stance” Craig! Bwaaahhahahahahahaha!!! How do ya think he got that wide stance?!
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:14 amWe’ve got plenty of space for the “wide-stanced” to spread out in Idaho. ;)
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 amKarl and Jeff, 2 girls, 1 cup.
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 amWhat is the difference between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? A lot more than most think. It lies in their actions and their records, which speak far louder than their similar policy platforms.
http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2008/ 2/ 2/ 0181/ 84501/ 394/ 448113
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 am#25 MapleStreet:
I keep remembering the joke about the kid on the team who is behind 89 to 0. The kid keeps insisting that they are in a tie game because they haven’t been at bat yet.
A cricket match, right? ;-)
Cheers,
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:41 amActually, I preferred John Edwards. But he wasn’t a media darling so he didn’t get much of a chance to present his platform. A Gore/Edwards ticket would have desirable, but Gore pussied out. Hillary has no integrity. She’s become another corporate whore just like most of the republicans. John McCain is just the neocons new poster boy since he will espouse anything they tell him to.
And guess who is testing the waters again? Ralph Nader. My room is starting to spin!
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 amI liked Edwards too. I was sorry to see him quit. I’m not sure I know what Obama stands for, even after all this time, and Hillary? Bleeech…
I do resent the way the MSM is trying to select our candidates for us.
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:47 amI was all for Edwards. The media screwed him bigtime. Obama actually has a more positive liberal voting record though, so I am not unhappy to support him.
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:55 amRalph Nader needs to go away like a good Adlai Stevenson.
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:56 amSpin, spin, spin…it’s all these guys have left.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:12 amMy latest favorite anti-war song…punk..of course
“Wargasm” by L7
Wargasm wargasm one, two, three
Tie a yellow ribbon around the amputee
Masturbate watch it on TV
Crocodile tears for the refugee
Wargasm wargasm one, two, three
Smutty bloody pictures, ecstacy
Blue balls waiting impatiently
From Alcatraz to Lady Liberty
Body bags and dropping bombs,
The pentagon knows how to turn us on
Wargasm wargasm one, two, three
Pit bull pit bull ecstacy
Wave those flags high in the air
As long as it takes place over there
Wargasm
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 amWargasm
Wargasm
Wargasm
Body bags and dropping bombs,
The pentagon knows how to turn us
Turn us on
Wargasm
Turn us on
Wargasm
Ya know, come time to vote this fall, I’m pretty much an ABAR* kinda guy.
*Anybody But A Republican…
I’m not crazy about Hillary, but I’ll take her over a GOOper any day of the week.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:22 amFebruary 2nd, 2008 at 1:26 am
I believe that Gates founded “Al Qeada” to fight the Russians during their tour there. “Al Qaeda” translates to “the base” or “database” . . . In Arabic Al Qaeda means “the toilet” . . .
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:37 amGates is a member of Al qaeda, Rumsfeld’s own fraternity. There is no bigger terrorist on the planet than George Bush.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 amIf you haven’t seen this . . . .
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Main japanese opposition party questions 9/11 in parliament - broadcasted on public TV
Friday January 11, 2008
Former Forbes Writer Benjamin Fulford Speaks With Alex Jones From Japan About The Recent Nationally Televised Debate About 9/11 By The Japanese Opposition Party.
AJ Fan
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 amAl Qaeda is just another CIA black op creation for the purpose of promoting fear for political benefit and corporate profit.
PNAC recipe;
Add 1 part Bush
About 160,000 troops
1 boogeyman (Osama bin Laden)
Near total complicit media
Gullible near comatose American public
Stir
This will produce fear, endless war, a shredded American Constitution and corporate mega-profits. Just what the PNAC ordered.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:53 amI just don’t see how as an American people like Muckasey and Gates actually believe they are helping their country.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 amYup, the worse it gets, the better we’re doing.
Please pass the popcorn.
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 amAsk the Russians about their win in Afghanistan. Mr. Secretary, go win in Afghanistan with your children. And remind me, we are in Afghanistan because why? I know we are in Iraq for oil and Israel but I’m not real clear on Afghanistan. If the U.S. government is after Bin Laden, they’ve known where to look for him for years. Better yet, let me suggest we go after Saudi Arabia where the hijackers came from. Where the Prince is not going to pump more oil for us, where Bush dances and prances with the House of Saud. There is where the problem is and it is where 9/11 came from. Your lame ass leader has really gotten us in a pickle and I will be glad to see him out of office where he can do so much less bloody harm.
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 amNot a single troll comment here. Even they can’t rationalize losing two wars.
Worst president ever. By far.
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 amOf course they say that more is less.
War is Peace.
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 amIgnorance is Strength.
Freedom is Slavery.
How many times can Bush apologizers recycle these stupid comments? More importantly, why do they so willingly soil themselves with such shit?
On thing is certain, these people are not very creative. Not only that, they either have or they think that we have, a very short memory. We didn’t want to hear this then and we don’t want to hear it now!
What we want to hear is the truth and it doesn’t sound like we are going to hear it from Gates. There is a spell on these people that compels them to say stupid-ass shit.
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 amThe American Taliban is in it’s last throes….about one year left..oops forgot about DIEBOLD!
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 amthe Burp Convoy limps along….
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am….have another beer, it will “help” your head.
After the World Trade Center attacks the continental US was never attacked again on Bill Clinton’s watch.
The worst attack in US history happened on George W. Bush’s watch.
-GSD
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 amComment by BERT CONVY
trolls are desperate now to get someone, anyone to listen to them…..sad aren’t they?
handwriting is on the wall bertie….bye bye.
Oh, could you trolls please hold down the sniviling……gawd it’s embarrassing. You’re supposed to be Americans, try to act like it.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 amThe terrorists have went on a beheading after George W. Bush took the Whitehouse.
“Terrorists” are attacking US troops every day.
The GOP was too busy trying to find out about Bill Clinton’s personal life instead of using Congressional hearings to find out about Al Qaeda.
-GSD
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 amIn May 2005, then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared that “So suicide attacks, whether in Okinawa or in Baghdad today, are not a sign of strength. They’re a sign of desperation.â€
Rummy resigned in disgrace. A true traitor to America
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 am- In March 2004, “in a trio of interviews with cable news outlets yesterday,†Vice President Cheney “brushed off the attacks as a sign of ‘desperation’ among U.S. foes.â€
This guy is famous for his lying and deciptivness……even among his “admirers”…….so we know he is lying.
no wonder the trolls are crying……….
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 amgates doesn’t care a bit about afghanistan, just like he and the rest of the bush administration didn’t care when musharraf signed a treaty with the pro-taliban/alqaeda tribes in the frontier provinces.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 am- In June 2007, then-White House Press Secretary Tony Snow described intense new levels of violence in Iraq as “signs of success.â€
hey, this guy has been caught in a bunch of lies too……hmm, seems like a pattern evolving.
yeah guys, more violence means we are winning.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 amcomon bert, quit whining………drop that teat and talk. make some sense for a change. You just drop the teat long enough to blubber then back on it you go……where are your bootstraps sonny boy….get up off of your knees. Stop crying and act like a man.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 amto bert:
hey george bush…..bring back our country you thieving bastard.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 amBert Convy must be smoking or sniffing the same thing Gates and Bush smoke and sniff…
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 am“BREAKING THE SILENCE” A FILM BY JOHN PILGER. THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WARS IN IRAQ AND AFEGANISTAN! YOUTUBE IT!!!!
They now had America on “THEIR†doorstep and their reaction, the little dears, was to butcher any American they could take alive.
And you simps defend them at every turn instead of your own troops. GAD what great Americans you moonbats turned out to be.
Hillary: bring back the furniture.
*bert
*
Comment by BERT CONVY — February 2, 2008 @ 10:28 am
The reason they went on a beheading spree and put 9/11 into action was because they knew that a Republican pussy deserter like George Bush would do nothing about it, and they were right. Bush failed to defend the USA, and is still failing at everything he tries. he hasn’t gotten a blowjob from an intern because he can’t get it up! Like all republicans, without a boy in front of them, they’re impotent. Like you, bert.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 amthanks for 9/11, bert, that’s all you can do is lose, and leave America defenseless. Your obvious envy of Clinton’s successful presidency and worldwide popularity has you absolutely crazy with jealousy. that’s what happens when you allow a group of treasonous oilmen to steal your country, and it makes you a traitor, so nothing you say has any validity whatsoever.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 ampoor bert is reduced to calling Hillary names while his own party loots the treasury and weakens America at home an abroad. Too bad Hillary has more courage than the entire Republican apparatus.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 amThe point is moonbats, that every single story swirling around out there, you find a way of sliming your own country while you work tirelessly to defend an enemy that actually damages our country….
Comment by BERT CONVY
you mean like you guys defending Don Rumsfeld….you know the traitor to America who resigned in disgrace? Is that what you really meant?
Why aren’t you calling for prison time for traitors like that?
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 amWhy aren’t you calling for prison time for traitors like that?
Comment by Fred — February 2, 2008 @ 10:51 am
bert knows that republican criminals like prison, it’s the only satisfactory sex they have.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 am“Yup after how many unanswered attacks on Americans?”
Comment by BERT CONVY
They never found who mailed anthrax to government representatives.
Oh! That one bounced off the rim!
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 amThey never found who mailed anthrax to government representatives.
Oh! That one bounced off the rim!
Comment by barfly — February 2, 2008 @ 11:01 am
At least it hit the rim, the rightard moonbats haven’t yet explained how attacking and losing in Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Bush is such a moron that only morons follow him, so I guess that explains the moron bert.
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 amAgain… bash the president, you hate him because YOU lost two elections, but he’s doing the work that Ol cum stain was too cowardly to do.
God bless GW.
Hillary… Walmart’s calling.
*bert
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Comment by BERT CONVY — February 2, 2008 @ 10:45 am
Yippee Ki Yay. Some serious goofball shit. I really like the cum stain part but to make it a little more Euroquaint you might have gone with Ye Olde cum stain.
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 ambert thinks that Bush losing three wars is success. Says it all about his mental acuity.
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 amAlways a pleasure to piss off the likes of Bush brown-nosing, 24%ers like Bert. It’s quite funny to watch these sheep defend the man who has already cemented his spot as one of the worst presidents in the history of the United States. Right down at the bottom of the barrel with the likes of Hoover, Grant, and Tricky Dick. The same sheep who say everything is rosy with the economy, that we’re winning the war (but we just need another six months to be sure), and global warming is a hoax.
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:47 amTroll reported. Please don’t feed the trolls.
February 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pmAnd a heart attack is a sure sing of a great health condition.
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pmAgain… bash the president, you hate him because YOU lost two elections, but he’s doing the work that Ol cum stain was too cowardly to do.
God bless GW.
Hillary… Walmart’s calling.
*bert *
Comment by BERT CONVY — February 2, 2008 @ 10:45 am
Actually Bush LOST 2000 by a HALF MILLION VOTES, and he even LOST in Florida. The SUPREME COURT APPOINTED BUSH, he DIDN’T WIN THE ELECTION. As for the SECOND ELECTION, didn’t you hear that TWO ELECTION OFFICIALS went TO JAIL for RIGGING THE RECOUNT?
Funny you would mention “walmart calling”, considering the only thing GW is SMART ENOUGH for is a GREETER!! ROTFL, you TARDS are DUMB! ;)
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:10 pmThe point is moonbats, that every single story swirling around out there, you find a way of sliming your own country while you work tirelessly to defend an enemy that actually sends mentally retarded teenage girls into a crowded market loaded down with explosives to kill 73 innocent people. Comment by BERT CONVY — February 2, 2008 @ 10:45 am
You’re saying that YOU and your FELLOW REPUBLICANS are MOON BATS, because for DECADES you were defending these techniques when they were used by the pre-al-qaeda FRIENDS of yours in Afghanistan, or when the right wingers were fighting to overthrow those ’socialist’ democracies in the middle east to install GOP friendly DICTATORS like SADDAM… You TARDS are SO TYPICAL. You are IMMORAL, HATEFUL TARDS that can ONLY ACCUSE OTHERS of your OWN CRIMES!! HYSTERICALLY PATHETIC of you TARD!! ROTFL!!
Does this not sound like an enemy that has been reduced by the surge to the most desperate of acts? YUP it does. Does this not sound like an enemy that has been so decimated by our good troops that they are reduced to using the disabled to carry out their attacks? YUP it does. And THAT moonbats, is the point of Gates statement. Comment by BERT CONVY — February 2, 2008 @ 10:45 am
OUR ENEMY? ROTFL, you’re DUMB! Iraqis were NOT OUR ENEMY until YOU TARDS were DUMB ENOUGH to INVADE THEIR COUNTRY! Do you believe that you would behave ANY DIFFERENTLY if the CHINESE were to invade YOUR BURG? You’d be the FIRST TARD that your FELLOW NERDS would STRAP A BOMB ONTO - Sad Little MORON! ;)
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:30 pmFlaming wreckage and twisted body parts where there used to be an airliner with several hundred people on their way to visit friends and family? Well, hey, at least it made it back to earth, right? It’s not ALL bad!
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 am