ThinkFast: February 4, 2008
ThinkFast: February 4, 2008
The New York Times writes that the Sunday morning public affairs shows “are careless about bias.” Their “experts are supposed to be impartial, but it is left to viewers to parse their complicated pedigrees and entwined political obligations. It’s not that they have nothing to say, it’s that what they say is not accompanied by an asterisk.”
60 percent: Americans who “think the economy’s already in a recession” while “two-thirds doubt that a government stimulus package will soften the blow,” according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll. In total, 81 percent believe the economy is “in bad shape, the most since 1993.”
The White House will release its FY 2009 budget today. CQ reports that the document is “expected to project a deficit in the $400 billion range for fiscal 2008 and 2009. That would be more than double the $163 billion in red ink from fiscal 2007.”
“The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined could rise to just under $900 billion by next spring and could near the $1 trillion mark by the end of 2009.” Congress has authorized $691 billion in war spending since 2001.
Speaking to a crowd in Florida over the weekend, Karl Rove admitted that he was a “bit of a hothead” while working for President Bush. Rove also compared Bush to Lincoln in his ability to “get to the nub of the thing.”
Three of Wall Street’s biggest investment banks — Citigroup, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanley — will announce today that they are “imposing new environmental standards that will make it harder for companies to get financing to build coal-fired power plants in the U.S.”
Housing Secretary Alphonso Jackson is alleged to have retaliated against the Philadelphia Housing Authority after it refused to “transfer a $2 million public property to a developer” who is a business friend of Jackson’s “at a substantial discount.” The authority’s director says he received “dozens” of “menacing” threats from Jackson’s aides over an 11-month period.
American forces “accidentally killed nine Iraqi civilians and wounded three” in a strike aimed at Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. The attack “appeared to be one of the deadliest cases of mistaken identity in recent weeks.” Some victims had “contracted with the American military to fight Al Qaeda.”
And finally: Yesterday, the “Patriots’ streak was broken, but Anheuser-Busch’s was not.” It “aired the best-liked Super Bowl ad for a record 10th-consecutive year,” with a commercial featuring a Dalmatian training a Clydesdale to make the beer wagon team. (Watch the ad here.)
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Good morning, campers.
Instead of comparing Bush to Lincoln, KKK Rove would be more accurate in comparing W. to Adolf Hitler.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:08 amThe White House will release its FY 2009 budget today. CQ reports that the document is “expected to project a deficit in the $400 billion range for fiscal 2008 and 2009. That would be more than double the $163 billion in red ink from fiscal 2007.â€
More than DOUBLE SFY ‘07!
This is without the supplemental Iraqi invasion funding. This is our ‘Fiscal Conservatrons’ at work…cut taxes for the rich, demand they become permanent, state we could be in Iraq for a 100 years, have the EPA overturn State emissions standards, lie to go into war, lie to stay at war & lie about how long we’ll be there.
Is this the Party you would vote for? Think about it…
February 4th, 2008 at 9:08 amThe New York Times writes that the Sunday morning public affairs shows “are careless about bias.â€
In other startling news, The New York Times writes that the sun has risen in the east again. Scientists believe this may be the beginning of a trend.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:14 amThree of Wall Street’s biggest investment banks — Citigroup, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanly — will announce today that they are “imposing new environmental standards that will make it harder for companies to get financing to build coal-fired power plants in the U.S.â€
Well, that’s interesting. Though it seems like far more of a profit motive than an environmental one. The banks seem very concerned about the prospects of government regulation and cap-and-trade systems, but not so much about air pollution.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:14 amThree of Wall Street’s biggest investment banks — Citigroup, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanly — will announce today that they are “imposing new environmental standards that will make it harder for companies to get financing to build coal-fired power plants in the U.S.â€
But if you want to build these type of plants plants in China, or India, these three companies will be more than eager to provide the financing.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:18 am60 percent: Americans who “think the economy’s already in a recessionâ€
But, but, only half the economists in this country think that we are in danger of going into a recession. If 60% of the people out there know we are in a recession, then we are in a recession.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:22 amHOT? He forgot the S and misplaced the I for an O…
February 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am“The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined could rise to just under $900 billion by next spring and could near the $1 trillion mark by the end of 2009.†Congress has authorized $691 billion in war spending since 2001.
When are the candidates going to realize that Iraq IS an economic issue. Our country can’t afford to keep pissing our future down this black hole. xoxoxD
February 4th, 2008 at 9:24 amThe White House will release its FY 2009 budget today. CQ reports that the document is “expected to project a deficit in the $400 billion range for fiscal 2008 and 2009. That would be more than double the $163 billion in red ink from fiscal 2007.â€
You know, I would rather it be the “tax and spend” Democrats rather than the “charge and spend” Republiscums. At least with the “tax and spend” approach we aren’t going deeper and deeper into a hole that is going to be very hard to climb out of.
I think that the Republiscums are going to have a very hard time painting the Democrats as “tax and spend” for generations to come. All the Democrats need to do is to point out the fact that the Republiscums brought this country to the brink of bankruptcy with their fiscal policies.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:24 amThe Dollar is in decline due to the budget busting Bush tax cuts and the horrible Iraq war bills unpaid by taxes. The fiscal excesses will make Humpty Dumpty very difficult to ever put together again. The Fed is only pouring kerosene on the fire with its interest rate cuts since Cheny-Bush have been spending borrowed cash and our credit worthiness steadily declines. This has been abetted by a Congress unwilling/unable to make the tough decisions. We are heading toward a Depression from this Recession.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:24 am“The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined could rise to just under $900 billion by next spring and could near the $1 trillion mark by the end of 2009.â€
And what do we have to show for that expenditure? Almost 4,000 of our soldiers dead, thousands of new terrorists created, an economy in a recession, cost of gasoline double what it was when we invaded, China owns us, no end in sight.
Heck of a job Bush and Congress.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:27 amRove also compared Bush to Lincoln in his ability to “get to the nub of the thing.â€
For those suffering from Post Super Bowl hangovers, this little information might just send them rushing to the restroom, praying to the porcelain gods!
February 4th, 2008 at 9:27 amI didn’t even over indulge yesterday, and I still threw up a little bit in my mouth.
Eccch!
Rove also compared Bush to Lincoln in his ability to “get to the nub of the thing.â€
Comparisons to Lincoln are so bogus. Poor Lincoln must be turning over in his grave every night. Comparisons to Hitler are much more appropriate.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:28 amThe authority’s director says he received “dozens†of “menacing†threats from Jackson’s aides over an 11-month period.
And I’m betting that nothing has been done about it. When you have a President setting a precedent of lawlessness, what do you expect from the people he has chosen to run the government.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:30 am“Rove also compared Bush to Lincoln…”
remember folks, whatever republicans say, the opposite is true.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:30 amRove isn’t referring to Abe Lincoln, you sillies. He’s referring to George Lincoln Rockwell, one of his heroes.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:32 amThe attack “appeared to be one of the deadliest cases of mistaken identity in recent weeks.†Some victims had “contracted with the American military to fight Al Qaeda.â€
“deadliest cases of mistaken identity in recent weeks”?? Wow, it sounds like we have had a real blackout of news from Iraq. If nine Iraqi civilians need to be killed for it to be newsworthy, one has to wonder how many other cases of “collateral damage” have occurred recently. For every incident like this, Bush has created another dozen or so terrorists. The friends and family of the innocents killed are going to be very angry at our government and are going to want to find vengeance.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:32 amAl Qaeda in Mesopotamia
new branding of AQ? AQM? Don’t forget your Wheaties this morning, you know, the one with Usama BinLaden on the box!
February 4th, 2008 at 9:35 amcost of gasoline double what it was when we invaded
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 4, 2008 @ 9:27 am
A little more than doubled.
I seem to remember Bushco saying Iraq’s oil would pay for the invasion. Too bad the oil companies are picking our pockets while our grandchildren’s grandchildren will be still paying the cost of Iraq for years to come.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:35 am“Rove also compared Bush to Lincoln…†remember folks, whatever republicans say, the opposite is true. -Bobwurst
And I compare Rove to the Down’s Syndrome suicide bomber…ready to do anything for his Party, including killing innocent children.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:36 amComment by gummitch — February 4, 2008 @ 9:32 am
Good shot gummitch!
February 4th, 2008 at 9:39 amThere’s a reason Americans think they’re in recession. They gaze into their largely empty wallets every time they buy gas, groceries, bay bills, etc…
February 4th, 2008 at 9:40 amThe only reason even 60 percent of the American public believe we are in a recession is because that’s what they are being told by the news media.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:36 am
No they are the ones that have to spend most of their paycheck to keep gas in their cars, so they can get to work and earn their paycheck to sign over to the oil companies.
f-kin’ moron
February 4th, 2008 at 9:41 amSunday shows should stop having “experts” and start talking to folks on the street.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:41 amAl Qaeda in Mesopotamia
new branding of AQ? AQM? Don’t forget your Wheaties this morning, you know, the one with Usama BinLaden on the box!
Comment by RUCerious — February 4, 2008 @ 9:35 am
Well, it’s much catchier than their other brand name, Organization of Jihad’s Base in the Country of the Two Rivers
February 4th, 2008 at 9:42 am“60 percent: Americans who “think the economy’s already in a recession†while “two-thirds doubt that a government stimulus package will soften the blow,†according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll. In total, 81 percent believe the economy is “in bad shape, the most since 1993.â€
The only reason even 60 percent of the American public believe we are in a recession is because that’s what they are being told by the news media. Focusing on a few problem areas and blowing them out of all proportion makes what is a primarily a local/regional problem into a percieved national problem.
“The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.†-Franklin Delano Roosevelt (d)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:36 am
or just maybe we’ve blew it all in the shlthole known as iraq because of our irresponsible (p)RESIDENT and the retards that blindly follow.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:43 amToaster, that’s true, I wonder when their tennis shoes will be announced by al Addidas…
February 4th, 2008 at 9:45 amIraqi women struggle to survive as violence claims their men
By Leila Fadel | McClatchy Newspapers
This is one widow’s story, but Teeba Jaweed is one of more than a million Iraqi women in the same plight, and like so many others, she has nowhere to turn for help. Sawsan al Barak, an official who deals with women’s issues at the Ministry of Human Rights, said that there are at least 1.5 million widows, many of whom lost their husbands to war-related violence. » read more
More collateral damage from our invasion and occupation of Iraq. If there are 1.5 million widows, that means we have been responsible for the deaths of 1.5 Iraqi men. For what?
February 4th, 2008 at 9:45 am60 percent: Americans who “think the economy’s already in a recessionâ€
the media perception managers have done their job then.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:46 amGeorge W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
February 4th, 2008 at 9:46 amO. Bigfoot-in-mouth is here to let us know what “The Truthâ„¢” is. Everyone be sure to listen close…..
/laughing hysterically
February 4th, 2008 at 9:46 amAl-Qaeda Commander Moved Freely in Pakistan
Libyan Killed Last Week Operated Openly
By Imtiaz Ali and Craig Whitlock
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, February 4, 2008; Page A01
PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Feb. 3 — A Libyan al-Qaeda commander who was killed last week in northwestern Pakistan had lived there for years and, despite a $200,000 U.S. bounty on his head, felt secure enough to meet officials and visit hospitals, according to officials and residents of this city.
As he organized suicide bombings and other attacks in neighboring Afghanistan, Abu Laith al-Libi found a comfortable refuge in Pakistan’s border region, the sources said in interviews. He met openly with a Pakistani politician and a Libyan diplomat and called on foreign fighters recovering from their wounds.
The Pakistani government contends it has been doing everything possible to capture al-Qaeda figures within its borders. But Libi, who was killed in a missile attack last week, moved unchallenged around the heart of Peshawar, a city of about 1.2 million people, underscoring how freely he and other al-Qaeda leaders have been able to operate in Pakistan.
With friends like Musharruf, who needs enemies?
February 4th, 2008 at 9:49 amGeorge W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Just one more empty slogan. What does that even mean bigmouth? And what are your qualifications to be asserting what “history” will think of bush? You’ve been wrong about everything else that bush has done.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:49 am#24, The only reason even 60 percent of the American public believe we are in a recession is because that’s what they are being told by the news media.
Yeah, couldn’t possibly have anything to do with declining median household income, record government and household debt, the hemhoraging of manufacturing jobs, the decline of the dollar, or any of the dozens of serious structural weaknesses in the economy that make them think this.
We just all need to remember to applaud, and the Tinkerbell economy will magically get better.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:50 amThe delusional troll OBigFootInMouth thinks that historians are going to ignore all the crimes Bush has committed, what he did to our economy, what he did to the nation of Iraq and come to the conclusion that Bush is “forward thinking”.
OBigFootInMouth needs to cut back on the kool-aid. He’s sounding more delusional than ever these days. The guys in the white coats are probably going to be coming for him soon.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:51 amBigmouth is the drunk at the end of the bar that everyone else feels sorry for, but smells to bad for anyone to go put an arm around and comfort…
February 4th, 2008 at 9:52 am60 percent: Americans who “think the economy’s already in a recessionâ€
the media perception managers have done their job then.
Comment by daytripper
what does this mean? You don’t think we are in a recession?
February 4th, 2008 at 9:54 amthe media perception managers have done their job then.
Comment by daytripper — February 4, 2008 @ 9:46 am
Are you suggesting that rising costs of living, increasing unemployment, and record-high foreclosures are some sort of illusion perpetrated by media corporations who depend on advertising revenue?
Interesting theory!
February 4th, 2008 at 9:56 amThe Bush Wars, the Bush Recession, the Bush destruction of the Constitution, the Bush staff of liars and traitors, the Bush supporters (the idiot 20%), all show George to be Bush League, a small man in a large office, a little dweeb in a deep hole. An appointed president unprepared for a job way over his head, a loser and an international embarrassment. Running against him is the way to destroy the GOP for the foreseeable future; mcCain’s constant kissing up and hugs are only a little less embarrassing than Georgie’s handholding with terrorist leaders. How deep a hole will Bush/Cheney dig the GOP? Deep enough to bury it is the hope of the American people.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:00 amDo you merely choose to believe what fits your negative, pre-concieved notions?
It would appear so.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
No, that’s really more of a conservative mind-set. We liberals come to conclusions about the economy and society based on facts and data. Conservatives find facts and data to validate their preconcieved notions about the economy and society.
So I can see why you’re so confused – it’s just your bias as a conservative.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:01 am#40 – notice how O. Bigfoot doesn’t address any facts here; he merely implies bias, and accuses someone (with no basis) of being a low-wage menial worker.
How about addressing the actual issues, the actual numbers, troll? But then, as a troll, that’s an anathema to you.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:04 amDo you merely choose to believe what fits your negative, pre-concieved notions?
It would appear so.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
looking in the mirror again, bigfoot? Bush has mired us in losing wars, a recession, a weak stock market, a plunging dollar, a diminished, exhausted military, and an embarrassing series of lies and perversions from your party, yet you persist in your delusion that everything’s fine. No wonder your numbersare shrinking; only the true believers, the fanatics, the nutcases are going to go along with your pathetic ass-kissing of the worst president in US history. funny how you project your weaknesses and your minimum-wage, entry-level job selling cheap cuts from your Jeep on those who are your superiors in every way.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:04 am“Or better yet, find a product of service you can provide better than the competition, and go into business for yourself. You are only limited by the limitations you place upon yourself.”
Or just be born into a wealthy family. It’s not that hard. If George Bush can do it, anyone can.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:04 amDo you merely choose to believe what fits your negative, pre-concieved notions?
It would appear so.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
OBigFootInMouth seems to think the fault of the Americans who aren’t participating in the “American Dream” lies on the people who didn’t work hard and educate themselves. The reality is, they are not participating in the “American Dream” because it has been sent overseas along with our good middle class jobs. Or, if their job wasn’t sent overseas, their company laid them off their white color job and then took advantage of the H1 visas to bring a worker over from India to do the job they were laid off from for half the prevailing wage.
My bet is that OBigFootInMouth lives in a trailer park and works for Walmart. But he still thinks that some day he is going to make it if he just works hard enough and makes himself invaluable to his company.
One of these days OBigFootInMouth is going to wake up and what he sees isn’t going to be pretty.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:05 amLiberals will never percieve President Bush to be a great, forward thinking leader. Liberals are still attempting to convince people that Ronald Reagan wasn’t a great President, regardless of what history has written.
My intent is not convince liberals of anything…the opinion of a liberal simply doesn’t matter that much.
My intent is merely to tell it like it is.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
OBigFootInMouth doesn’t know much about history because historians do not rate Ronald RayGun as a great president. And they are not going to rate Bush as a great president. Bush will probably be rated as the worst president ever.
But, keep up that positive thinking tinkerbell. One day you might make it out of your trailer park.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:07 amLiberals will never percieve President Bush to be a great, forward thinking leader.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:05 am
I refer you to my previous post. This is because liberals base our perceptions on facts. The facts are that President Bush is neither great, forward thinking, nor a leader.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:08 am“You are only limited by the limitations you place upon yourself.”
And how does that explain a guy who got “gentleman c’s” becoming president, when he’s failed at everything he’s ever tried?
February 4th, 2008 at 10:08 am#49, I bet Bigfoot thinks Reagan actually lowered taxes for most Americans too.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:08 amComparing Bush to Lincoln is like comparing Stalin to Ghandi.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:08 amDo you merely choose to believe what fits your negative, pre-concieved notions?
It would appear so.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
George W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
February 4th, 2008 at 10:08 amMy intent is not convince liberals of anything…the opinion of a liberal simply doesn’t matter that much.
My intent is merely to tell it like it is.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:05 am
Translation: “I have no facts to support my ignorant opinions, so I’ll just tell everyone how smart I am.”
February 4th, 2008 at 10:09 amHistory has castigated Reagan as a buffoon and cheap opportunist, and Bush will certainly fare much worse, as a mass-murdering sociopath who can’t even speak a full sentence in English. The only “historians” fooled by Reagan’s incompetence are the blindly loyal fascists like pigfoot. he is rapidly becoming universally hated for his antiAmerican support of our enemies.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:10 amAh, yes. Thank you Bigfoot for the precise Republican thinking.
“I’m fine so why are you complaining?”
American Republicans are so cute when they are so patronizing to the hard-working poor.
Silver spoons seep into your bloodstream and make you an idiot if you leave them in too long – look at Bush.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:11 amI’m up to whatever amount you are willing to lose.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:09 am
bigfoot,as a conservative, would never pay a bet he had lost. he thinks it’s OK for him to make up lies about people he doesn’t know, but takes offense when people accurately portray him as the loser he is. truth is, he’s unqualified to work at Walmart, and has to sell frozen jerky from the back of his vehicle, like a cheap fence of stolen goods.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:12 amMy intent is merely to tell it like it is.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:05 am
Stephen Colbert just called. He wants his “truthiness” routine back.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:13 amLiberals will never percieve President Bush to be a great, forward thinking leader.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:05 am
Nope, he will always be Lord Arbusto of Kennebunkport, aka Commander Codpiece of Mission Accomplished, the biggest fake in American history.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:13 am“I was there.
Reagan could have been President for life, if the law would have allowed it.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Then you were also there when he raised them again. And if it weren’t for the alzheimers’, Reagan would have been the first president impeached.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:13 amYou do realize that the opinions of uneducated folks like yourself really don’t matter to anyone, right?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:12 am
You do realize that my educated opinions are shared by the majority, right? You do know that I have far more education than you, right? You do know that I earn a good living without ripping the public off, unlike you, right?
February 4th, 2008 at 10:14 amI’m truly sorry you’ve missed out on the American Dream, Wayne. May I suggest you move up from your minimum wage, entry level job? Educate yourself, learn your business, become invaluble to your company..you will go far. Or better yet, find a product of service you can provide better than the competition, and go into business for yourself. You are only limited by the limitations you place upon yourself.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
I probably make more in a month than you do in a year, Bigmoron.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:14 amEven though I finished college and make a fairly good living does not mean I am blind to the state of the economy and the plight of the poor in this country.
Go back to your normal position of your head inserted withing your rectum.
Then you were also there when he raised them again. And if it weren’t for the alzheimers’, Reagan would have been the first president impeached.
Comment by barfly — February 4, 2008 @ 10:13 am
That would’ve been difficult without a time machine – Andrew Johnson will always hold that title.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:15 amSo, how much you in for, Patooty?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:14 am
I don’t bother betting with liars like you conservatives; you never pay up. Anybody who bets with a proven liar is asking for trouble. and you are a proven liar. The country is in recession; anything else is a lie.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:16 amYou do realize that the opinions of uneducated folks like yourself really don’t matter to anyone, right?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:12 am
And what elevated degree did you get as your crackerjack prize?
February 4th, 2008 at 10:17 amReagan could have been President for life, if the law would have allowed it.â€
Comment by O. Bigfoot
another term and he would have been successfully assassinated. don’t forget that he was so hated that someone tried to kill him. Too bad that he was a bad shot.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:17 amComment by toasterhead
Well, second, then. I keep forgetting about Jackson.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:18 am“George W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Yeah like looking forward to his next in a long line of record breaking vacations…and looking forward to his self-imposed exile in Paraguay
“The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.†-Franklin Delano Roosevelt (d)
Funny when a piss soaked troll who cowers under his bed crying about the terrurists and how we must give away more and more of our basic liberties so his President can stop them (with no oversight or regard to the Constitution) has the gaul to invoke FDR and his denouncement of living in fear.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:18 amIf Bill Clinton were allowed to run, he’d take 50 states. his approval ratings are still that high, and against the pigmies the repkes are running, he’d win in a walk.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:19 amO.Bigfoot and VA Voter and the rest of the right-wing nutcases that visit this blog, and the Right-Wing Authortarian nutjobs that run the places like redstate and free republic, do not realize that every time they open their mouth, they damn their cause further.
I show the posts from the right-wing nutcases to my right-of-center friends, letting them see the bull that issues from these guys mouths. Every time they open their mouth, they drive my libertarian and moderately conservative friends further away from their cause. Every time a hard-core right-wing admin on Redstate ‘pulls the trigger’ on a poster by blocking his account from posting for daring to express any sort of left-wing opinion, that further encourages the moderates to go away from their party. Republicans could run a right-of-center candidate that desires to return to the small-government roots, who doesn’t cater to the religious right and the foreign lobby (in the form of Israel), and possibly capture alot of votes from the middle-ground. But VA Voter and O.Bigfoot keep pushing the moderates away from their guy and into the hands of the Left.
I enjoyed the month of silence from the trolls after the 2006 elections put the Republicans in the minority position in 2007. For a whole month, they didn’t know what to say. The Math that Rove had said they should have won, they were _crowing_ about that before the election. “Polls don’t matter, except the one on November 7th, and we’re gonna win that one!†It’s the same canard that they are running out now…Polls don’t matter and [Pick one of the set McCain|Huckabee|Romney] is gonna win. None of us want to say ‘You’re wrong’, because the Democrats have lost enough elections that were looking like they were in their pocket for various reasons, but I wonder how long the silence will last at the words “President Elect Obama†or “President Elect Clintonâ€, and “Veto Proof majority in House and Senate for the Democrats.†I eagerly look towards finding out.
And every word uttered by VA Voter and O.Bigfoot on this thread and the rest of the trolls on the others make it all the more likely that we’ll see that the trolls and their backers still don’t have the math they think they do…
Comment by Jeremy in Denver — February 4, 2008 @ 1:20 am
Posted by me on yesterday’s SoS Lieberman thread. And validated today by Bigfoot again.
My family’s best friend, a wealthy moderate Republican woman, has a very unique political view. She’s actually Libertarian, but votes Republican because they’re the party that are closest to her ideals. At least they were until 2000. She voted for George in 2000. She supported him firmly throughout the Afghanistan war (actually, so did I, a moderate Liberal leaning independent). She and I both agreed that we ought to let the inspectors do their job in Iraq, though she was still giving George the benefit of the doubt (at this time, I was very skeptical of the whole thing). She didn’t vote in 2004, and now, she’s talking about voting against the Republican nominee, whoever he is, here in 2008.
What O.Bigfoot doesn’t get is that this woman _was_ part of his base. She didn’t care for the people who were thumping their bible, but now that they run the show, she can’t stand it anymore. She has decided now that her party is no longer the party for her. Even this wealthy woman is having trouble making ends meet in this economy. And as a fiscal conservative, NOTHING done in the past 7 years has made sense to her.
Again, I look forward to the silence that will compliment the silence we had after the 2006 elections. I bet O.Bigfoot’s ‘Math’ is showing yet another Republican victory, like in 2006. ;)
February 4th, 2008 at 10:20 amWhat is likely to stop the rise of the American empire dead in its tracks isn’t a sudden upsurge in the antiwar movement, the election of a rational President, and/or a sudden radical reversal by the policymaking elite after more than half a century of folly – it’s bankruptcy that will do it, long before any of these possibilities have a chance to take shape.
- Justin Raimondo, Antiwar dot com
February 4th, 2008 at 10:20 amWell, second, then. I keep forgetting about Jackson.
Comment by barfly — February 4, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Johnson. I know that “Jack” is a familiar name for “John”, but they really were two different people.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:20 amJohnson. I know that “Jack†is a familiar name for “Johnâ€, but they really were two different people.
Comment by gummitch — February 4, 2008 @ 10:20 am
even though Jackson deserved impeachment more than Johnson did. =)
February 4th, 2008 at 10:22 amSitting on your asses complaining ain’t gonna pay the bills.
Or are just waiting for the government to bail you out? You’ve got a long wait.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:20 am
The voice of experience? Did you have a difficult time getting food stamps, Bigfoot?
You’re obviously working hard at your “meat” business right now.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:22 amfoot….I will see your 500 tho and raise you 5 millilon….
hell my fake money is as good as your phony balony money……
February 4th, 2008 at 10:22 amOr are just waiting for the government to bail you out? You’ve got a long wait.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:20 am
that’s all you have? the same old tripe? more troll projection? you might be surprised that many of us are at work, at our computers, not running aroind the countryside trying to pawn of cheap cuts of frozen jerky to the suckers you deal with.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:23 amIn other startling news, The New York Times writes that the sun has risen in the east again. Scientists believe this may be the beginning of a trend.
Comment by gummitch — February 4, 2008 @ 9:14 am
..although reseachers from the American Enterpise Institute dispute this, saying this conclusion is based on “junk science” and that it would wreck our economy if we were to just accept the myth that the sun will continue to rise in the east each day.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:23 amAt the same time, my ex-wife, who voted twice for Bill Clinton, just voted for McCain last week in Florida’s primary, along with her husband. There’s no way she would ever vote for Hillary.
Looks like one for one. Net gain: 0
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:22 am
This is the ex-wife who is a meth addict, right?
February 4th, 2008 at 10:23 amforward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Just one more empty slogan. What does that even mean bigmouth? And what are your qualifications to be asserting what “history†will think of bush? You’ve been wrong about everything else that bush has done.
Comment by Bobwurst — February 4, 2008 @ 9:49 amâ€
Liberals will never percieve President Bush to be a great, forward thinking leader. Liberals are still attempting to convince people that Ronald Reagan wasn’t a great President, regardless of what history has written.
My intent is not convince liberals of anything…the opinion of a liberal simply doesn’t matter that much.
My intent is merely to tell it like it is.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
This guy puts the crack in cracker. Notice that he can’t explain what “forward thinking” means. like I said, just an empty slogan. it’s all the repubican’ts have.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:24 amLooks like one for one. Net gain: 0
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:22 am
your ex-wife will vote for Hillary in the general, unless she’s as stupid as you, which she isn’t since she had the brains to leave you.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:25 amRove isn’t referring to Abe Lincoln, you sillies. He’s referring to George Lincoln Rockwell, one of his heroes.
LOL! gummitch, awesome job!
February 4th, 2008 at 10:27 amMcCain is the new Bob Dole. just wait until he falls on his ass at a campaign event; it’s inevitable. he’s just another doddering old fool that the psycho 20% will throw their votes away on.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:27 ama typical bigoot…
Do you merely choose to believe what fits your negative, pre-concieved notions?
It would appear so.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
George W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Liberals are still attempting to convince people that Ronald Reagan wasn’t a great President, regardless of what history has written.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Reagan could have been President for life, if the law would have allowed it.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
You do realize that the opinions of uneducated folks like yourself really don’t matter to anyone, right?
February 4th, 2008 at 10:30 amComment by O. Bigfoot
… very few men EVER “get to the nub of the thing. 
some can’t even find the right… ah, never mind…
i love men, really…
February 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am:-]
“but if you can pass a background check, want to work, and want to make a couple hundred a day, look me up.”
No thanks. I don’t need to schlep around in the sticks to make a couple hundred a day.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:31 amKKKarl shouldn’t mention “nubs.”
February 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am“imposing new environmental standards that will make it harder for companies to get financing to build coal-fired power plants in the U.S.â€
i’m all for that… better late than never…
February 4th, 2008 at 10:32 amand they are WAAAAAY late…
want to make a couple hundred a day, look me up.
You can’t be negative, though, so most liberals need not apply.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:28 am
Sorry, bigfoot, I make you day’s pay in a couple of hours, without ripping customers off. You can be proud of being a redneck peddler of cheap crap from your jeep, but it just means you can’t get a real job.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:33 amFunny. O.Bigfoot thinks that a one for one tradeoff means he’s right.
Ok, how about a hardcore Republican military man? He still hates the democrats, but you see, he hates them less than the George Bush Republicans. He used to vote hard for Republicans, but he too is disillusioned by the bible-thumping nutcases in the party. He doesn’t vote anymore — not just for President, but for _any_ position. He hasn’t been driven to the Democrats, but he is a vote you can’t count on in the Republican bracket either.
And there’s my Mother in Law, who used to be a hard core Republican supporter herself. Hell, this woman is religious as well, but you know what? She’s now an Obama Girl. Yes. An Obama Girl. She’s registered Independent now and while she still will vote for that moderate Republican who shows up, her vote is no longer guaranteed for the Republicans.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Most of my friends are independent and a-political, at least they were before 2000. Hell, I was too. I did my civic duty and voted for my representatives, of course, but I wasn’t an enthusiastic supporter of anyone. I usually split my votes between the various parties, based on their merits. _I_ have been lost to the Republican party — considering that I respected Buddy Roemer and didn’t dislike Mike Foster (lived in Louisiana most of my life) and didn’t even hate Bill Owens (Colorado), that should say something.
However, O.Bigfoot doesn’t get this. It’s not important he does. What’s important to me is to try to motivate the lurkers to understand that what he says is a lie. Don’t believe me?
Check out the raw numbers of Democratic votes in the caucuses. Ranging from a disproportionate number of votes all the way up to a massive 2:1 ratio.
Talk to your friends and coworkers. Especially moderates and independents.
And above all, unify in the face of four more years of Bush, through McCain, Romney, or Huckabee.
And think of the peace we’ll have come November 8th, 2008. ;)
February 4th, 2008 at 10:33 amI don’t understand what principles of logic are followed by those who are ready to beatify Reagan as a saint.
In fairness, he DID restore the morale of Americans after the oil crisis and the Iran hostage crisis, but aside from his ability to “communicate” and speak in rosy terms about everything, he was not a good president.
He presided over the Iran-Contra scandal, after which all conspirators/felons were pardoned.
He began the systematic destruction of labor unions, starting with the FAA controllers, putting all of America at risk until his replacements were brought up to speed.
He presided over an enormous budget deficit.
He spent Russia into economic decline at the expense of our own financial health.
For the warmongers here — he quickly retreated from Lebanon after the bombing.
He took credit for the tearing down of the Berlin wall, when he had nothing to do with it.
He declared war on the poor with his pronouncement that ketchup is a “vegetable” for school kids/ menus.
He (via his wife) consulted an astrologer before traveling, or making appearances and decisions.
He did survive an assassination attempt, but that is a credit to his bodyguards.
In his later years, his failing mental status became more apparent as he confused roles he played in movies with real-life history, puzzling foreign leaders.
History will not declare Reagan anything more than a mediocre man who was in over his head, and who had an ability to make people feel good as he was pulling the rug out from under them.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:35 amI actually thought she would WOULD vote for Hillary, and was rather suprised by her vehement negative reaction to Clinton.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:34 am
she’ll vote for the dem in the general, that’s what counts.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:35 amBush has reduced our Democracy to a ‘nub’ alright. Thanks Turdblossom you traitor and coward.
-GSD
February 4th, 2008 at 10:35 amHistory will not declare Reagan anything more than a mediocre man who was in over his head, and who had an ability to make people feel good as he was pulling the rug out from under them.
Comment by Marie — February 4, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Which makes Bush all the sadder, by comparison. Republicans can’t efend the USA, can’t run an economy, can’t deal with the world, can’t govern. Time to bury the GOP, deep.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:37 amI predict McCain will be a big loser tomorrow. He has a certain affinity for back-country rubes, but he’ll get hammered in large metro areas.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:37 amBigfoot is advocating a “President for Life” scenario on a democracy! Funny stuff. That crap is for dictatorships like North Korea and Zimbabwe and Saddam’s Iraq.
What a tyrant loving schmoe.
-GSD
February 4th, 2008 at 10:38 amGood thing we all “anonymousâ€, right….LOL
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:36 am
yes, it’s a good thing we’re anonymous, because my resumé would bury yours. $100 per hour is actually lower than my average fee. I don’t go into 7-11s, even to shop. Too bad for you, that you’re stuck traipsing around the countryside, trying to unload that cheap crap of yours.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:39 amOh, LP, it looks like you’ve been dreaming again…you need to wash your sheets.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:39 am
Well, we’ll see whose sheets need washing after the election, when y8ou’re in the minority in every house.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:40 amHey, LP? Does it really matter whether your resume will bury Bigfoot’s or not? Don’t get suckered into his little conversation, that’s what he wants. The jab’s already been delivered, now keep demolishing him on the topic. :)
February 4th, 2008 at 10:42 amAll those posts from pigfoot, and not a single proveable fact among them. what a simpleton.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:43 ampigfoot’s sitting at home because the recession is cutting his customer list.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:43 am“I don’t understand what principles of logic are followed by those who are ready to beatify Reagan as a saint.
In fairness, he DID restore the morale of Americans after the oil crisis and the Iran hostage crisis, but aside from his ability to ‘communicate’ and speak in rosy terms about everything, he was not a good president.”
In fairness, he made a deal with terrorists to gain release of the hostages after the election, and began shipping them weapons scant months after taking office. He was shipping them weapons almost from the very start of his administration. There’s no reason to show Reagan fainess. He was an undicted crook.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:44 amThat should be “unindicted crook.”
February 4th, 2008 at 10:44 amBush Unveils $3 Trillion Spending Plan
February 4th, 2008 at 10:44 amWashington Post – 1 hour ago
President Bush pauses to greet visitors on his return to the White House from a weekend at Camp David, in Washington, Sunday, Feb. 3, 2008.
White House Budget Request Sees Near-Record Deficits Wall Street Journal
Bush proposes $3.11 trillion budget MarketWatch
As long as that makes Romney the winner, I’m all for it!
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Me too! I also want to see how badly a fundy-whacko gets beat in the general!
February 4th, 2008 at 10:45 amBigfoot is advocating a “President for Life†scenario on a democracy! Funny stuff. That crap is for dictatorships like North Korea and Zimbabwe and Saddam’s Iraq.
What a tyrant loving schmoe.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
Oh, he has stated catagorically that there is nothing wrong with a dictatorship but that Hitler had just screwed it up………
February 4th, 2008 at 10:47 amMe too! I also want to see how badly a fundy-whacko gets beat in the general!
Comment by barfly — February 4, 2008 @ 10:45 am
It doesn’t matter which intellectual pigmy and professional liar the repukes run; it’s all over for them. the american people can feel the Bush recession, and can see the Bush strategy of losing three wars at a time, as well as the daily evidence pouring in of Republican perversion, thievery and lies. Even rove ran away.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:47 amGeorge W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:48 amComment by O. Bigfoot
Oh, that’s funny. O.Bigfoot will be happy with McCain OR Romney.
Boy, the only chance your masters have is if it’s McCain vs. Hillary, and that’s simply because enough democrats are dissatisfied with Hillary that they may stay home or vote for the Republican, and McCain still has his 8 year old image of a moderate maverick in some crowds.
Barack versus anyone on your party? Obama presidency in 2009. Hillary versus anyone else in your ticket? Clinton presidency in 2009.
Again, I look forward to the peace and quiet on November 8th. BTW, how’s that permanent majority coming, anyway?
February 4th, 2008 at 10:48 amWell, the budget is out, and surprise, surprise… “DEFENSE: The Pentagon would get a $35 billion increase to $515 billion for core programs, about 7 percent, with war costs additional”.
Funny, the Pentagon increase for this year alone is the same amount that Congress asked for to increase coverage in SCHIP for the next 10 years.
War over kids…
February 4th, 2008 at 10:52 am“George W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Yup. He was “forward-thinking” that an intractable war with no end in sight is a gold mine for his political contributors, and other assorted crime-family members.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:52 am“with war costs additional”. The pentagon should be razed. it’s a hotbed of boondoggles and thievery, and has proven ineffective at defense. Imagine that the USA spends that much, and is losing in Iraq.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:53 amO. Bigfoot, why don’t you O. *bleep*-off, and go find your own O. Website?
O. Nazi. O. Winds of Flatulence. O. Traitor to the Constitution.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:58 amEducate yourself, learn your business, become invaluble to your company..you will go far.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
The residents of tiny Wooster, Ohio, also felt negative, if indirect, effects of Wal-Mart’s global reach. Wooster was for decades the home of Rubbermaid, a household name in storage and trash containers. In the early 1990s, Rubbermaid changed its business strategy to reflect the shifting nature of retail sales. It began selling two thirds of its volume to a half-dozen of America’s leading giant retailers. When an increase in its raw material costs forced Rubbermaid to implement a universal retail price hike, Wal-Mart refused the change and dropped most of its Rubbermaid orders. Rubbermaid, never to regain its former strength, sold out to a competitor and closed its Wooster factory once and for all in 2002, eliminating 1,000 jobs from the rural Ohio town.
http://www.uky.edu/CommInfoStudies/IRJCI/reports/reportswalmart.htm
So Bigfoot, here we have a situation in which skilled factory workers at a Rubbermaid plant in Ohio, workers who educated themselves, learned their business, and became invaluable to their company suddenly lost their jobs through no fault of their own. They lost their jobs because their biggest customer wanted them to work without making a profit.
And to your way of thinking, the workers are to blame. Because they wanted to profit from their hard work, and decision-makers at Wal-Mart wanted Rubbermaid to lower the prices of their products to the point where there was no profit, those workers did not go far – they lost their jobs and became, in your mind, lazy good-for-nothing slobs whose only goal in life obtaining a government handout.
Tell us, O Wise Bigfoot, where did those educated, invaluable Rubbermaid workers go wrong?
February 4th, 2008 at 11:01 amRove also compared Bush to Lincoln in his ability to “get to the nub of the thing.â€
How, exactly how, does the pasty-faced, porcine puke know this about Lincoln?
I am sick and damn tired of comparisons between peewee Dinkledorf to the titan Lincoln. The only commonality between them is both were presidents during wars.
The main difference is that Lincoln was a great man and president and Dinkledorf is a small, small mand and a complete and total moron!
February 4th, 2008 at 11:03 amReagan could have been President for life, if the law would have allowed it.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 10:10 am
aH, NOW we see the true authoritarian affection bigfoot displays for all repuglycans, regardless of their true place in the dumpster of history.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:04 amHow about the first and foremost Reagan accomplishment, the busting of the Aircraft controller’s union?
“How about the first and foremost Reagan accomplishment, the busting of the Aircraft controller’s union?”
Comment by RUCerious
Actually I’d place that one second, behind killing the Fairness Doctrine. It was Reagan’s refusal to enforce the statute that led to the Right’s ascendency on talk radio, and eventually to Fox News.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:09 amBTW, how’s that permanent majority coming, anyway?
Comment by Jeremy in Denver — February 4, 2008 @ 10:48 am
About as well at the 1000 Yr Reich, I’d reckon…
BTW, Nice TinkerBallsâ„¢, Footie… ching-ching-ching-a-ling.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:11 amReagan was another in a log line of republican traitors to america. I only regret that Hinckley was such a lousy shot.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am“I am sick and damn tired of comparisons between peewee Dinkledorf to the titan Lincoln. The only commonality between them is both were presidents during wars.
stewartjt”
And of course, by the time both presidents left office the majority of the country knew they were brain dead.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:11 amI see OBigFlagHumper hasn’t offered up his “truth” yet.
He must know it’s a crock of shit.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:14 amI see OBigFlagHumper hasn’t offered up his “truth†yet.
He must know it’s a crock of shit.
Comment by Zooey — February 4, 2008 @ 11:14 am
Bigmouth wouldn’t know the Truth if it walked up and slapped him on the face with a 2×4
February 4th, 2008 at 11:17 amBigmouth wouldn’t know the Truth if it walked up and slapped him on the face with a 2×4
Comment by Wayne — February 4, 2008 @ 11:17 am
Well, you and I know that…. ;)
February 4th, 2008 at 11:21 amBobwurst; W was brain dead even BEFORE taking office.
February 4th, 2008 at 11:26 amthis one’s for pussyfoot, et al…
Differences Between GOP and Democratic Debates
February 4th, 2008 at 11:52 amwhat does this mean? You don’t think we are in a recession?
nope, im making a bitter comment based on the fact that recession looks possible, yet its not due to lack of effort from the average person on the street. as usual we see those who extract value from the system and give nothing mess it all up
February 4th, 2008 at 11:56 amIf that’s your purpose here monkeyboy then it’s clear that we’re not the tools here.
You’ve been allowed to dine at the table with the rest of the Humans and all you can muster is throwing your fecees around and gigiling to yourself.
Another worthess sapien.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:04 pmAnd the next three administrations will have to focus on repairing this damage. Congratulations, BushitCo, you almost succeeded in drowning the government.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:21 pmHowever the people know how to do CPR, Clobber Putrid Repuglycans…
O.Bigfoot, this was never about you, just about the bull that you spew on our community. :)
But Bigfoot makes a point. Hillary is the corporate candidate. But what he doesn’t get is that we know this, and Hillary is only ahead with the silly ’superdelegate’ system that the Dems use…eliminate those, and Obama is in the lead.
Tomorrow will hopefully show Hillary’s lead in total delegates narrow if not reverse.
But O.Bigfoot will continue thinking ‘we want Hillary’…unaware that we’ll settle for her if she is what comes out of the primaries…but we don’t have to be happy with her.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pmGeorge W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
This freak will reach the breaking point someday when the illusion falls apart.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:43 pmYou might want to talk to Lefty Patooty about the Hillary worship you lefties practice.
This comment shows that Bigmouth cannot even function in a small closed system. There is scads of criticism of Clinton at this site, and surely she is a minority choice among the initial field of candidates. She barely gets a majority among Democrats at the national level, and there is intense dislike of her on the left side of the party. But Bigmouth’s reality-challenged interpretation is “Hillary worship”. Bizarre.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:48 pmvia C&L blog roundup:
Just Another Thing You’ll Never See Leading The US Evening News
Posted by Phoenix Woman on February 3, 2008
I just found out that some British soldiers stand accused of torturing and killing twenty-two captured Iraqis after a firefight in 2004. There was a gag order on the details of the crimes, which were apparently horrifying in the extreme, but that was lifted on January 31 by a British High Court judge.
However, the US media’s gag order on reporting this has not been lifted.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:54 pm[...]
pussyfoot is a student of the “repeat it enough times” school…
February 4th, 2008 at 12:59 pmthat was one quick “snowman”…
but it is “quality, not quantity” they say…
i just heard a blurb on the AP radio news…
john mcCAVE asking his crowd “Now what do you want — a bridge to nowhere or a $1000 tax credit for every child in America?”
that $1000 should put quite a dent in the $30,000 that each child, and person, owes on the national debt…
February 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pm“How about the first and foremost Reagan accomplishment, the busting of the Aircraft controller’s union?â€
Comment by RUCerious
Actually I’d place that one second, behind killing the Fairness Doctrine. It was Reagan’s refusal to enforce the statute that led to the Right’s ascendency on talk radio, and eventually to Fox News.
Comment by barfly
pick me….I have one……..what about the lobby system which for the first time under raygun was exapanded from a hand full of people who were very restricted in what they could legally offer became the largest industry in the world……..votes for sale…..legally and now there are thousands of them. They even have their own street in dc…..K street…….
February 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pmYour squalor is yours alone.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
your lies are yours alone.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:32 pmI actaully am all for Hillary winning, just to bust the balls of the right, which she will do. I have more favorite candidates, and I will work for them, but if she wins, there are two truths:
February 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pm1) she will go all out to arrest, convict and jail rightards and
2) on her worst days, she will be far, far more capable and presidential than George Bush on his best day. Whenever that was, since he never had a good day. 9/11 is his, and his alone, to wear for the rest of his days.
Do you merely choose to believe what fits your negative, pre-concieved notions?
February 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pmIt would appear so.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
You do realize that the opinions of uneducated folks like yourself really don’t matter to anyone, right?
February 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pmComment by O. Bigfoot
Reagan could have been President for life, if the law would have allowed it.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pmComment by O. Bigfoot
Bigmouth is here is a desperate bid to rewrite reality for himself. His little project is doomed to failure.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:39 pmGeorge W. Bush will be recognized by history as one of the most forward thinking Presidents in U.S. history.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:40 pmComment by O. Bigfoot…………………………………………
Obigidiot; why don’t you give yourself an enema….with a hand grenade.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:54 pmThey voted for a guy from Arkansas. A little known southern Democrat Governor named Bill Clinton, who’s wife was on Wal-Mart’s board of directors.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
What you have given is a response, as opposed to an answer.
First of all, you have absolutely no clue who those workers voted for in any presidential election, so that “fact” was obviously fabricated.
Second, Hillary Clinton was on the Wal-Mart board of directors from 1986 to 1992 – a full ten years before the Rubbermaid layoffs took place, so that “fact” is irrelevant.
Third, you completely ignored the original question, setting in its place a strawman. So let’s try this again, shall we?
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Educate yourself, learn your business, become invaluble to your company..you will go far.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
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So Bigfoot, here we have a situation in which skilled factory workers at a Rubbermaid plant in Ohio, workers who educated themselves, learned their business, and became invaluable to their company suddenly lost their jobs through no fault of their own. They lost their jobs because their biggest customer wanted them to work without making a profit.
Tell us, O Wise Bigfoot, where did those educated, invaluable Rubbermaid workers go wrong?
February 4th, 2008 at 1:58 pmI know, without a doubt, that I am right. The opinions of lefties are totally irrelevant to me. I toy with you entirely at my leisure, and revel in the amount of time you spend in your posts attempting to denounce me, and I really find pleasure in the fact that you think your words actually mean anything to me.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
I just like to point out what a ridiculous ass you are…….you make it really easy……thanks.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:01 pmComment by Little Freep Goofballs
don’t hold your breath…..he doesn’t know anything…..you will soon figure that out for yourself…..he especially will not try to answer anything which requires a fact…..out of his scope.
just a republican ass snipe…..he wants to talk our economy out of a recession……..talk about a moonbat
February 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pmYour first mistake is assuming that I have no self-esteem.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
huh, that’s interesting…..must have hit a nerve….
February 4th, 2008 at 2:06 pmI offer you the truth.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Too bad you wouldn’t recognize it if it were rotting in your truck..
February 4th, 2008 at 2:08 pmComment by Fred — February 4, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
Hey Fred – I’m well aware that. They’ve got nothing but blather. I just love to see them squirm.
And they think we’re self-destructing.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pmYour first mistake is assuming that I have no self-esteem.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Someone did a study of violent felons serving long prison terms. They used psychological profiling to assess, among other things, the self-esteem of these thugs, expecting to find low self-esteem. What they found instead was high self-esteem, but it was self-esteem that had been formed without any basis in their own deeds or accomplishments.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pmI come back, post one or two times, and the conversation is all about me again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
It isn’t about you, per se, freak. It is about the pathology you represent.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:15 pmkeep comin back dummy…..it’s just you and me…..
February 4th, 2008 at 2:15 pmAnd they think we’re self-destructing.
Comment by Little Freep Goofballs — February 4, 2008 @ 2:10 pm
Mr. P is back.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:15 pmDid you miss the part in the article provided about Rubbermaid’s troubles starting in the early 1990’s? Who was President then, Einstein?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — February 4, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Let’s see – early 1990s… hmmm… 1990, 1991, 1992. Why, that would be George H. W. Bush.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:17 pmFBI wants palm prints, eye scans, tattoo mapping
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/fbi.biometrics/index.html
Kimberly Del Greco, the FBI’s Biometric Services section chief, said adding to the database is “important to protect the borders to keep the terrorists out, protect our citizens, our neighbors, our children so they can have good jobs, and have a safe country to live in.”
Good jobs????? WTF????? The Kool Aid is still being swilled by many.
And who’s this in charge???
A lot will depend on how quickly technology is perfected, according to Thomas Bush, the FBI official in charge of the Clarksburg, West Virginia, facility where the FBI houses its current fingerprint database.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:24 pmBush budget sees bigger deficits as economy slows
Reuters – 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President George W. Bush forecast the U.S. budget deficit would more than double in 2008 and blamed a weakening economy as he unveiled a $3.1 trillion spending plan for fiscal 2009 on Monday that would nearly freeze domestic programs.
These fcuking idiots are steering us direclty into a Depression. More money for war buddies, more debt, and reduction in domestic services.
Whoever voted for these bastards should hang themselves.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:39 pmSo, anyone in Iraq who doesn’t like us is now officially “al Qaeda”; and the designation goes unquestioned as it’s duly reported by the media, and is used to justify our occupation of that country in the name of “keeping us safe”.
And the only remaining “enemy” in Pakistan and Afghanistan is porportedly “the Taliban”.
Amazing how that happened….
February 4th, 2008 at 4:36 pmThree cheers for O.Bigfoot’s SUDDEN disappearance, with all his posts, from this thread. :)
February 4th, 2008 at 6:52 pm