Comments on: Powell’s shame. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:39:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Batocchio http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-4255262 Batocchio Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:57:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4255262 It's heart-breaking. Tawfiq's situation proves once again the admin was intent on selling a war, not honestly assessing a threat. It’s heart-breaking. Tawfiq’s situation proves once again the admin was intent on selling a war, not honestly assessing a threat.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-4255256 Fred Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:53:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4255256 49 Captain You are criminal scum and will not be debated. You need to learn that your beliefs are not just wrong but criminal and absolutely immoral. You and the scum like you have too long gained a semblance of legitimacy by claiming that they have a right to civil debate. You do not. how do you like me now? 49 Captain
You are criminal scum and will not be debated. You need to learn that your beliefs are not just wrong but criminal and absolutely immoral. You and the scum like you have too long gained a semblance of legitimacy by claiming that they have a right to civil debate. You do not.

how do you like me now?

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-4254842 sacopenapa Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:27:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254842 <em>how do we explain all the U.N. resolutions concerning Iraq and the need for Iraqi disarmament? </em> Capitan merdastic, if you want to talk about UN resolutuions, you have to include all of them! The UN resolutions that is responsible for the death of thousands of iraqui children years prior to the invasion/occupation. The UN resolutions the the US and Israel do not obey or use their power to veto. Many times being the only two countries to do so against the common consesus. how do we explain all the U.N. resolutions concerning Iraq and the need for Iraqi disarmament?
Capitan merdastic, if you want to talk about UN resolutuions, you have to include all of them! The UN resolutions that is responsible for the death of thousands of iraqui children years prior to the invasion/occupation. The UN resolutions the the US and Israel do not obey or use their power to veto. Many times being the only two countries to do so against the common consesus.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-4254835 sacopenapa Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:22:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254835 What Collin Powell forgot to tell then and nor Rice nor Gates nor anybody in this criminals administration will tell you is the fact (Check the congress records in its libary) the Chemical weapons Saddam Hussein once possessed came from Meryland USA! What Collin Powell forgot to tell then and nor Rice nor Gates nor anybody in this criminals administration will tell you is the fact (Check the congress records in its libary) the Chemical weapons Saddam Hussein once possessed came from Meryland USA!

]]> By: Jackie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-4254614 Jackie Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:00:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254614 Like others who failed or didn't get the gold Powell is sucking up to Senator Obama. Yes Connie Rice and Powell are doing their best to attach themselves to the man who wants to be President. If Obama gets in he'll put them in his cabinet. Look Obama is going to be a another front man for others to do their thing. Kerry didn't get to be President but he can now live through Obama. Kennedy hasn't reached the top like his famous brothers so he will use Obama to get there. Why not Powell, he can always now come back and use the race card. Powell was once one of the most respected and trusted Americans by all and mostly the Military. Telling Bush/Cheney lie cost him everything but he did get paid for a job well done by the Republican Party. Yes Powell helped thousands of soldiers die based on that lie but God has to judge his actions. At lease Powell will never have to see the brave soldiers he allowed to die as their in heaven and he'll be sent to hell. Like others who failed or didn’t get the gold Powell is sucking up to Senator Obama. Yes Connie Rice and Powell are doing their best to attach themselves to the man who wants to be President. If Obama gets in he’ll put them in his cabinet. Look Obama is going to be a another front man for others to do their thing. Kerry didn’t get to be President but he can now live through Obama. Kennedy hasn’t reached the top like his famous brothers so he will use Obama to get there. Why not Powell, he can always now come back and use the race card. Powell was once one of the most respected and trusted Americans by all and mostly the Military. Telling Bush/Cheney lie cost him everything but he did get paid for a job well done by the Republican Party. Yes Powell helped thousands of soldiers die based on that lie but God has to judge his actions. At lease Powell will never have to see the brave soldiers he allowed to die as their in heaven and he’ll be sent to hell.

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-4254610 VerbalKint Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:55:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254610 <em>It is interesting that Roger_Roger equates Powell’s lies to Saddam’s.</em> Roger_Roger will no doubt deny this, but his own words prove that he is far more of a "moral relativist" than any of us. Not as bad as Saddam! Geez, how far can you lower the bar, RR? It is interesting that Roger_Roger equates Powell’s lies to Saddam’s.

Roger_Roger will no doubt deny this, but his own words prove that he is far more of a “moral relativist” than any of us. Not as bad as Saddam! Geez, how far can you lower the bar, RR?

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254608 Fred Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:52:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254608 On that day, I lost all respect for General Powell who had so distinguished himself in service to the country before that. How many people were persuaded or kept quiet because of the weight he threw behind this terrible, harmful deception? Comment by Doc Rock distinguished himself how.......you mean his participation in the murderous highway of death where we shot thousands of people in the back who were running away from the battle in kuiait? On that day, I lost all respect for General Powell who had so distinguished himself in service to the country before that. How many people were persuaded or kept quiet because of the weight he threw behind this terrible, harmful deception?

Comment by Doc Rock

distinguished himself how…….you mean his participation in the murderous highway of death where we shot thousands of people in the back who were running away from the battle in kuiait?

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254598 Doc Rock Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:43:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254598 On that day, I lost all respect for General Powell who had so distinguished himself in service to the country before that. How many people were persuaded or kept quiet because of the weight he threw behind this terrible, harmful deception? On that day, I lost all respect for General Powell who had so distinguished himself in service to the country before that. How many people were persuaded or kept quiet because of the weight he threw behind this terrible, harmful deception?

]]> By: natisman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254562 natisman Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:19:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254562 Here is another guy who forgot that one of the commandments says something like do not bear false witness, have all RePUGlications forgotten that one. Is there some kind of waiver for those that vote RePUG? I am thinking to think that we won't ever get honesty from these folks Bush, Cheney, Powell, et all, so why ask? Here is another guy who forgot that one of the commandments says something like do not bear false witness, have all RePUGlications forgotten that one. Is there some kind of waiver for those that vote RePUG?

I am thinking to think that we won’t ever get honesty from these folks Bush, Cheney, Powell, et all, so why ask?

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254529 Fred Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:52:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254529 There is nothing funny about this but I am gratified to know that powell can no longer go to book signings around the country and be treated like a patriotic American.....he has shown his colors and I don't think he will show his traitorous face in public much in the future.....he should fall on his sword if he had any honor....only then would I consider forgiving him. There is nothing funny about this but I am gratified to know that powell can no longer go to book signings around the country and be treated like a patriotic American…..he has shown his colors and I don’t think he will show his traitorous face in public much in the future…..he should fall on his sword if he had any honor….only then would I consider forgiving him.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254521 toasterhead Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:47:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254521 <i>Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan. His speech although impressive for the kind of lies (even here in Mexico, where people don’t know too much about politics one thing: US like wars) so the whole deal was done before Powell’s speech, it was just a matter of time. Comment by Juan C. — February 5, 2008 @ 11:18 am</i> Completely agreed. The decision to invade Iraq was made back in the 90s. We were going to war whether the rest of the world was with us or against us. The Powell speech was just an attempt to cajole a few countries into siding with us in the quagmire. Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan. His speech although impressive for the kind of lies (even here in Mexico, where people don’t know too much about politics one thing: US like wars) so the whole deal was done before Powell’s speech, it was just a matter of time.

Comment by Juan C. — February 5, 2008 @ 11:18 am

Completely agreed. The decision to invade Iraq was made back in the 90s. We were going to war whether the rest of the world was with us or against us. The Powell speech was just an attempt to cajole a few countries into siding with us in the quagmire.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254509 theswan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:43:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254509 It only seems to get worse. Westnmoreland, Powell, Betrayus. It only seems to get worse. Westnmoreland, Powell, Betrayus.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254504 Fred Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:40:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254504 Sure bush/cheney were set to invade, but the deal wasn’t sealed until powell chimed in. There is no telling that they would have been able to close the deal without powell. . Comment by pluege I know this is semanitics and we all agree powell is a traitor, but I don't believe the whole thing hinged on powells speach......I think the deal was done and powell was sent to tell the world what to expect. Sure bush/cheney were set to invade, but the deal wasn’t sealed until powell chimed in. There is no telling that they would have been able to close the deal without powell.
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Comment by pluege

I know this is semanitics and we all agree powell is a traitor, but I don’t believe the whole thing hinged on powells speach……I think the deal was done and powell was sent to tell the world what to expect.

]]> By: pluege http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254494 pluege Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:34:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254494 <em>Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan.</em> time was critical; the longer the invasion could have been delayed, the greater chance of it being stopped...the truth, or at least doubts were trickling out. the bush regime was struggling to sell their lies. They needed an unimpeachable supporter - enter the willing stooge Powell willing to sell his undeserved reputation for God knows what he was thinking...staying in bush's good graces? yuk! The presumption of invasion is not by any means a good one. Sure bush/cheney were set to invade, but the deal wasn't sealed until powell chimed in. There is no telling that they would have been able to close the deal without powell. . Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan.

time was critical; the longer the invasion could have been delayed, the greater chance of it being stopped…the truth, or at least doubts were trickling out. the bush regime was struggling to sell their lies. They needed an unimpeachable supporter – enter the willing stooge Powell willing to sell his undeserved reputation for God knows what he was thinking…staying in bush’s good graces? yuk!

The presumption of invasion is not by any means a good one. Sure bush/cheney were set to invade, but the deal wasn’t sealed until powell chimed in. There is no telling that they would have been able to close the deal without powell.
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]]> By: KansasLiberal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254492 KansasLiberal Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:33:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254492 There is only one word I can use to describe Colin Powell... TRAITOR!!! There is only one word I can use to describe Colin Powell… TRAITOR!!!

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254480 Fred Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:25:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254480 Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan. His speech although impressive for the kind of lies (even here in Mexico, where people don’t know too much about politics one thing: US like wars) so the whole deal was done before Powell’s speech, it was just a matter of time. Comment by Juan C I agree with this whole heartedly....the decision had already been made. We were there to tell the world what was going to happen.....period. Colin Powell = Benidict Arnold Sorry folks, there is no defending this guys honor….I knew he was lying, you knew it, everyone knew it….it was a show of force at the UN……nothing more, nothing less. Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan. His speech although impressive for the kind of lies (even here in Mexico, where people don’t know too much about politics one thing: US like wars) so the whole deal was done before Powell’s speech, it was just a matter of time.

Comment by Juan C

I agree with this whole heartedly….the decision had already been made. We were there to tell the world what was going to happen…..period.

Colin Powell = Benidict Arnold

Sorry folks, there is no defending this guys honor….I knew he was lying, you knew it, everyone knew it….it was a show of force at the UN……nothing more, nothing less.

]]> By: Juan C. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254475 Juan C. Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:20:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254475 Roger Roger is funny. First he says Saddam said he had WMDs, so we have to beleive him. Now, Iran says they don't have WMDs, but we don't believe them. I'm guessing we believe whatever fits our warmongering projects... Roger Roger is funny.

First he says Saddam said he had WMDs, so we have to beleive him.

Now, Iran says they don’t have WMDs, but we don’t believe them.

I’m guessing we believe whatever fits our warmongering projects…

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254473 Fred Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:20:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254473 And he was also executed rather quickly, wasn’t he? Why was that Roger_Roger Debate_Dodger? What could he have said, ye ol’ one post wonder? Comment by DRxJ — rr never debates.....he knows better......he's not only a chicken hawk he's a regular yellow stripe variety chicken as in coward...... And he was also executed rather quickly, wasn’t he? Why was that Roger_Roger Debate_Dodger? What could he have said, ye ol’ one post wonder?

Comment by DRxJ —

rr never debates…..he knows better……he’s not only a chicken hawk he’s a regular yellow stripe variety chicken as in coward……

]]> By: Juan C. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254472 Juan C. Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:18:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254472 <em>The words carried much more weight coming from Powell than they would have from known warmongers like Rumsfeld or Bush or Cheney. Comment by toasterhead </em> Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan. His speech although impressive for the kind of lies (even here in Mexico, where people don't know too much about politics one thing: US like wars) so the whole deal was done before Powell's speech, it was just a matter of time. And Peter C, most of the wars made in this planet have been made based on lies. The words carried much more weight coming from Powell than they would have from known warmongers like Rumsfeld or Bush or Cheney.
Comment by toasterhead

Actually I think US would have invaded no matter what, so that leaves Powell being just a tool part of the plan. His speech although impressive for the kind of lies (even here in Mexico, where people don’t know too much about politics one thing: US like wars) so the whole deal was done before Powell’s speech, it was just a matter of time.

And Peter C, most of the wars made in this planet have been made based on lies.

]]> By: Peter C http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-4254471 Peter C Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:18:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/powells-shame/#comment-4254471 It is interesting that Roger_Roger equates Powell's lies to Saddam's. We could EXPECT Saddam to lie. I cannot accept that behavior from my government, though. Will they ever forgive us? It is interesting that Roger_Roger equates Powell’s lies to Saddam’s. We could EXPECT Saddam to lie. I cannot accept that behavior from my government, though.

Will they ever forgive us?

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