Savage: U.S. doesn’t want an ‘affirmative action’ president.
On his Feb. 1 broadcast of his radio show, The Savage Nation, host Michael Savage called the 2008 election the “first affirmative action election in American history“:
We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election? … In many ways you could say this election is about the mandate called affirmative action, and I can predict right now they’re gonna lose because when the American people themselves have been able to vote for or against affirmative action, as most recently they did on a ballot initiative in very liberal Michigan, they voted against affirmative action.
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Michael Savage Weiner is an idiot.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:00 amsavage is a bigoted racist but i fear there are just enough ppl who think like him in this country that hillary or obama can not win. well maybe hillary can win…but not obama…
February 5th, 2008 at 10:00 amTherefore, g_g must be an idiot too.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:01 amthis is all they have at this point.
It will be ugly with racial or sexist undertones from here on out.
And it should be pointed out how divisive, immature and despicable these tactics are.
Every time.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:01 amWell, since we can’t have an “affirmative action” president, I guess that a black or a woman can never run for president. It is exclusively a white man’s job. Isn’t that right Savage. Setting aside the presidency for a white man is discrimination at it’s finest.
This man is such a fool and such a tool. I pity the people who listen to him. They all must have mush for brains.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am#1 - Wow, I never thought I would see the day that I agreed with a post made by GiGi, but that day has come.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:02 amToo bad our elections are nothing more than popularity contests.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:05 am“Very liberal Michigan”…??? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Trust me, I live in Michigan and much of the state is anything BUT “liberal”. We’re pretty representative of the nation as a whole when it comes right down to it.
- csavage (no relation to the idiot Michael Savage)
February 5th, 2008 at 10:06 amWhat Savage negects to mention is that we currently have an “affirmative action” president. His Iraq policy amounts to affimative action - for Iraqis.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:07 amRepublicans have narrowed it to:
1. Romney, the millionaire son of a Governor.
2. McCain, the son and grandson of Admirals (married into his millions).
Obama and Clinton earned their way into elite colleges and law schools.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:07 amMichael “Weener” is a pandering demagogue, undeserving of even having a microphone. Why anyone tunes in his program is a mystery to me — listening to non-stop hate and vitriol is poisoning and potentially harmful to one’s psyche.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:08 amBotch could also be considered a “legacy” president.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:08 amsavage is a bigoted racist but i fear there are just enough ppl who think like him in this country that hillary or obama can not win. well maybe hillary can win…but not obama…
Comment by Freakaloin
You are wrong. A recent CNN poll shows that 72% of White americans told them that they would vote for a black for president. Keep in mind that was white Americans. I’m willing to bet that the percentage is higher if they factor in other races.
http://www.charlescountycafe.com/?p=2574
February 5th, 2008 at 10:09 amThe Democratic race is thus flirting with a dangerous competition between inequalities to correct or injustices to repair. The risk is that by dividing the electorate of their party, the two candidates could cause fractures that the one who is nominated cannot repair.
What gap do you believe is larger in the U.S., Gender Gap or Race Gap?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1700
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February 5th, 2008 at 10:10 amPoor Savage, doomed to a life of bloody knuckles that will never get the chance to scab over.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:12 amComment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 a
Agreed.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:13 amThe time has come for a president that defends joe average, not hard-up for waging endless war and giving constant hummers to corporate America and the House of Saud.
Black or white, man or woman, that’s what America desperately wants at this hour.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:14 amAffirmative Action is the boogie man raised by people who know that they can’t compete on a level playing field.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:14 am(shrug) That’s all white folks think when they see a woman or a black person. What’s new about this?
February 5th, 2008 at 10:18 amAffirmative Action is the boogie man raised by people who know that they can’t compete on a level playing field.
Comment by raynman
Ding…ding…ding….give this man the prize. You are exactly right.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am(shrug) That’s all white folks think when they see a woman or a black person. What’s new about this?
Comment by sherifffruitfly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Not all white people.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:20 amthis is all they have at this point.
Comment by clammyc — February 5, 2008 @ 10:01 am
—–
No they also have the fact that Hillary ‘killed Vince Foster’
-She is a carpetbagger that has done NOTHING for New York State
-The 9 TRILLION mini-scandals from the Clinton administration
-She is calculated
-lacks charisma
-her last name is ‘Clinton’
-she is a woman
Obama-time
February 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am-His middle name is freaking HUSSEIN
-His mom was part muslim or bought a copy of a Koran for a school project or something
-He’s black
savage is a bigoted racist but i fear there are just enough ppl who think like him in this country that hillary or obama can not win. well maybe hillary can win…but not obama…
Comment by Freakaloin
I disagree too….I think the American people will vote for anything that runs against a republican this time…..anything…..I don’t think they could dig up raygun and do any better right now……they are done for a long time.
You see republicans can’t survive well in a democracy. they want things thier way even if they are in the minority and will do illegal and immoral things to have their way….example…..2000-2007 pick a day. They have shown their hand.
Any group who would destroy our economy in order to be able to say we can’t afford domestic programs are traitors to America……that is what they have done…..again….
February 5th, 2008 at 10:21 amSo, I guess in 2000, electing Affirmative Action Presidents was alive and well because the Supreme Court appointed the country’s first president with an IQ equivalent to a push pin.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:22 amYou know what amazes me? The man is half black and half white. Why is it that the white part is so weak that this man (and every other mixed person) is considered to be black? Why is it that in someone who is evenly composed of both black and white that the white part doesn’t ever seem to dominate and he is considered to be black?
I keep reminding people that he is half-white.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am“risk is that by dividing the electorate of their party, the two candidates could cause fractures that the one who is nominated cannot repair.
What gap do you believe is larger in the U.S., Gender Gap or Race Gap?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1700
Comment by PollM ”
Bull! Any two candidates have the capability to fracture their party, did you read the limbaugh thread below? Does that mean that McCain shouldn’t run because the neocons and religious fanatics in the repubican party don’t like the cut of his jib?
It’s the media that will fracture the dem party if it happens. Hill and Obama have been pretty good about not trying to blow up the party. The media talks about this because they’re generally to lazy to actually do their job, and they’re generally too self centered to realize that nobody cares what they think.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:26 amSomeone needs to shut that Jew the fuck up.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:26 amNot all white people.
Comment by VA Voter — February 5, 2008 @ 10:20 am
Just the losers like you.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:26 amSavage is right in the sense that we should elect our president based on merit and not based on being “the First Woman†or the First Black†President. If you think that Obama or Clinton are the better candiate, bote for them because of that, but don’t vote for a candidate simply because of their gender or race.
Comment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 am
You’re right, but that’s not what Savage is saying. He’s spinning the fact that Obama and Clinton out-fundraised and out-lasted the other candidates as “affirmative action.” They got to their position as frontrunners by being the two best campaigners in the field, not because of their race or gender.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:26 amIt will be ugly with racial or sexist undertones from here on out.
And it should be pointed out how divisive, immature and despicable these tactics are.
Comment by clammyc
And how effective these tactics are, because Americans are the STUPIDEST people to have ever existed on the planet.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:28 amI thought ‘affirmative action’ only occurred when a minority was chosen over an otherwise equally- or better-qualified candidate. None of the Republicans are qualified : )
February 5th, 2008 at 10:28 am#1 - Wow, I never thought I would see the day that I agreed with a post made by GiGi, but that day has come.
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 5, 2008 @ 10:02 am
except the trooll is insinuating the dems are not already aware and able to use their heads, unlike the rightie sheep that it has to hold up as examples…
the trooll’s comment was a slur and meant to offend…
February 5th, 2008 at 10:29 amthe reason we are in this flippin’ mess is because We the Sheeple are too damn busy watching American IdLE.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:29 amThat’s exactly what Weiner is trying to do, toasterhead - cast aspersions on the legitimacy their candidacies solely on this basis.
“The ONLY reason” they’ve gotten this far… blah, blah. blah…
February 5th, 2008 at 10:30 amYou know what amazes me? The man is half black and half white. Why is it that the white part is so weak that this man (and every other mixed person) is considered to be black? Why is it that in someone who is evenly composed of both black and white that the white part doesn’t ever seem to dominate and he is considered to be black?
I keep reminding people that he is half-white.
Comment by lefty
scientifically, because I think the black gene is dominant……what’s wrong with him being black?
February 5th, 2008 at 10:31 amComment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 a
Agreed.
Comment by VA Voter — February 5, 2008 @ 10:13 am
So it’s unanimous: wingnuts are idiots, and will believe whatever lies their masters tell them.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:32 amSavage and his kind need to be dealt with in the harshest terms possible. They need to be driven off the air with constant boycotts and other attacks.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:33 amHuh? Michigan is a purple state. Kerry barely took Michigan. Reich-wingers are so baseless
February 5th, 2008 at 10:33 amI keep reminding people that he is half-white.
Comment by lefty — February 5, 2008 @ 10:23 am
why???
is that supposed to “make it better”?
he is a person.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:34 am.
First Affirmative Action?
How come we never heard about that when Condoleezza Rice or Colin Powell or anybody else got into high offices?
A product of Columbia and Harward Law? need affirmative action?
yeah, if you are talking about correcting past and present injustices against a racial group, for historical reasons, I would think this nation needs AA now more than ever for its own good!!
News Headlines
February 5th, 2008 at 10:38 amhttp://www.faceoftruth.com
Comment by barfly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:07 am
Study notes weaker performance among legacies
http://www.cavalierdaily.com/ CVArticle.asp?ID=29856&pid=1569
February 5th, 2008 at 10:39 amIt’s a shame he see’s it that way. It must suck going through life so absolutely blinded by hate. I’m glad I’m not him.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:39 amI keep reminding people that he is half-white.
Comment by lefty — February 5, 2008 @ 10:23 am
Are you insinuating that he can’t dance?
February 5th, 2008 at 10:39 amAffirmative Action is the boogie man raised by people who know that they can’t compete on a level playing field.
Comment by raynman —
this was posted early on this thread but it bears repeating…….
same reason the traitorous repubs destroy our economy in order to get rid of domestic programs…..they cannot survive in a democracy.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:42 am“I thought ‘affirmative action’ only occurred when a minority was chosen over an otherwise equally- or better-qualified candidate. None of the Republicans are qualified : )
Comment by kiley481
No, that’s the rallying cry of the Wounded White Male: “Reverse Discrimination!”
February 5th, 2008 at 10:45 amSavage-Weiner couldn’t get a job in academia for 5 years after he completed his Ph.D, and he blames Affirmative Action. The fact remains that he’s a terrible scientist, refuses to apply the scientific method, and avoids facts and reality at all costs.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:47 am“Very liberal Michiganâ€â€¦??? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Comment by csavage — February 5, 2008 @ 10:06 am
No kidding!
It ain’t Utah, but only the misinformed would call Michigan “very liberal”. Misinformed or a lying sack of sh!t or both, as in savage’s case.
I ’spose you could label the SE corner “liberal” (Ann Arbor, metro Detroit), but certainly not the entire state! The plethora of Romney and Ron Paul signs littering the roadways are proof of that!
February 5th, 2008 at 10:48 amNot sure what planet Savage comes from, but WE now outnumber HIM. Multi ethnic people and females together compose far more than half of the electorate and so is more “akin” to the makeup of America than any caucasian male could ever hope to be, no matter how rich, fat or powerful he may think he is.
TP doesn’t need this kind of crap reiterated here. Let’s have something more substantive than OReilly or Savage quotes…PLEASE
February 5th, 2008 at 10:50 amI ’spose you could label the SE corner “liberal†(Ann Arbor, metro Detroit), but certainly not the entire state!
Comment by LividLib — February 5, 2008 @ 10:48 am
No kidding! Just go to Grand Rapids (the mecca for DeVos and Amway)! Ultra-ultra conservative there.
And just for the record, the Affirmative Action ban passed at 58%. So no, it wasn’t a landslide victory by any means.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:55 amscientifically, because I think the black gene is dominant……what’s wrong with him being black?
Comment by Fred
No, not scientifically. Sociologically, the “black” MEME is dominant, because for a hundred years in this country about 1/3 of our states defined their citizens’ race by the “one drop” rule…if you had ANY amount of African ancestors, you were “black” for the purposes of Jim Crow.
It’s 50 years after that sort of thing was finally officially ended, but 50 years is an eyeblink in historical terms.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:56 amUnder Apartheid in South Africa, if you were part white and part black (or from India) you were in a different category: Colored.
But in the American South, one drop of black blood made you black. (this was inevitable, with white slave owners using their black slaves for pleasure.)
In Louisiana it was codified: look up what ‘quadroon’ and ‘octaroon’ mean.
Our evil traditions still shape us.
Put Barack Obama in a Honda Accord and send him through Simi Valley at night, and he’d get stopped for Driving While Black.
Q.E.D.
Barack Obama was president of the Harvard Law School law review. If he becomes president, that’s not affirmative action, that’s meritocracy.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:58 amThe racist Savage said :
“We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election?”
Ah, no it doesn’t. Not at all. Not in the least bit.
How does a woman or a multi ethnic man running for elected office have anything to do with affirmative action?
AGAIN, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT AT ALL !
There is no quota, there is no assistance being given for race or gender, there is no percentage of Presidential candidates that MUST be Female or of any ethnic group.
Savage is trying to scare up some support using his dog whistle bullshit on any rube he can find.
February 5th, 2008 at 11:09 amNo kidding! Just go to Grand Rapids (the mecca for DeVos and Amway)! Ultra-ultra conservative there.
And just for the record, the Affirmative Action ban passed at 58%. So no, it wasn’t a landslide victory by any means.
Comment by DRxJ — February 5, 2008 @ 10:55 am
Practically all of the Western side of the state is ultra-reich-wing. Savage-Weiner is factless once again.
February 5th, 2008 at 11:09 amWhat gap do you believe is larger in the U.S., Gender Gap or Race Gap?
Comment by PollM — February 5, 2008 @ 10:10 am
The gap between Condiliesalot’s teeth …………..
February 5th, 2008 at 11:18 amSavage is a troll. Nothing more.
February 5th, 2008 at 11:26 amscientifically, because I think the black gene is dominant……what’s wrong with him being black?
nothing as far as i’m concerned. it’s that he’s referred to being black while it could just as easily say he’s white
February 5th, 2008 at 11:36 ami think mr savage weiner might have an issue with him being black
February 5th, 2008 at 11:37 amR.i.g.h.t… We all want brilliant white men like our current president.
February 5th, 2008 at 11:40 amya think, lefty?
February 5th, 2008 at 11:46 amI ’spose you could label the SE corner “liberal†(Ann Arbor, metro Detroit)…
Thankfully that’s the part I live in (Ann Arborish)…
February 5th, 2008 at 12:30 pmSavage is right in the sense that we should elect our president based on merit and not based on being “the First Woman†or the First Black†President. If you think that Obama or Clinton are the better candiate, bote for them because of that, but don’t vote for a candidate simply because of their gender or race. The same goes for Romney or McCain. If you think one of them is the best candidate, vote for him, but don’t vote for him simply because he is a white male.
Comment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 am
I concur.
February 5th, 2008 at 12:42 pmA Savage S C U M B A G!
February 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pmGOP TARD TROLLS (the party of WHITE MEN) telling LIBERALS how NOT TO BE RACISTS while THEY ARE RACIST (especially the SELF LOATHIN’ DARYLL the ANTI-CHRISTIAN!) ;)
February 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pmLast time I CHECKED, Both Clinton and Obama entered college ON THEIR OWN INTELLECTS and not as a LEGACY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROMOTION like GW, or Mitt & John who BOTH got where they were on the COAT TAILS of a FAMOUS FATHER! The GOP should TAKE THEIR OWN ADVICE considering they seem to only support LEGACY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION of INCOMPETENT BOOBS! ;)
February 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pmyou wingnuts seem to think that African-Americans who are accepted into our universities do not deserve to get in. You seem to believe that racist carol which claimed that affirmative action programs accept D and F students. That’s total BS. Same qualifications, not the D and F myth.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pmReply to #1: There’s only one problem with your and Savage’s thinking. The US Constitution doesn’t say that only white males can be elected President. Any besides that fact, blacks and women have every right and white males have regardless of affirmitive action. Why? They’ve earned it by fighting and dying is every war this country has ever fought including the two going on right now. What does it say about a country where only white men can rule? Apparently you and the idiots who agree with your comments also agree with the Taliban who treat women like dirt and make them cover their faces. If you want to be like the Arab countries and the Taliban, you have my permission to move there. I served this country protecting you stupid azz from these people and now you tell me I can’t be President. Where did you get that right? Who gave it too you? You think because you are white, you automatically have it right? Think again stupid, the people of this country will deside who is President, not fools like you.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pmTheir scared to death that it will be a landslide for the Dems. GOOD, this country needs to rid itself of the corrupt repukes for good.
Buck Fush
February 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pmFirst, it is worth pointing out that, as usual, Michael Weiner has no idea what he’s talking about.
Second, note to Weiner, it is DEMOCRATIC not DEMOCRAT. Basic grammar there…. shouldn’t be that hard.
OK… on to the real topic: affirmative action.
The comparison of the Democratic primary campaigns with affirmative action is total nonsense; no one is forcing either Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama on voters. Neither of them was asked to run; they chose to run themselves. If the voters in the Democratic primaries and caucauses have chosen Clinton and Obama, then that is who we chose, not who was appointed for us.
February 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pmEight years is enough for a “Negative Actions” President. Bush time is almost over.
February 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pmSavage is right in the sense that we should elect our president based on merit and not based on being “the First Woman†or the First Black†President.
Comment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 am
Far better than choose a candidate because has a fake texan accent or you would like to have a beer with (curious, because he claims to be an ex-alcoholic).
February 5th, 2008 at 2:09 pmWait till the nominating is over, then we’ll see foaming spittle flying from the likes of Thavage and Lush like never before.
The nursing home dayrooms will be up in arms, with the waving of knobby fists and the clacking of misaligned dentures…
February 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pmI don’t think he knows what affirmative action is…or how it has been “used”.
“Affirmative action refers to policies intended to promote access…”
“We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election? …”
No policy was enacted in order to give them access to run,
February 5th, 2008 at 2:32 pmtherefore not affermative action,
not akin to it either.
The Bush cultists thoughtfully concur on this - it just wouldn’t be right to elect someone who didn’t rise to his or her position on the basis of their own talent. Now, let’s talk about a guy who got into Harvard Business School with less than a 3.0 GPA and got into Yale with less than a 3.0 GPA. Bush cultists: how did that happen? Was that affirmative action for the wealthy?
February 5th, 2008 at 5:25 pmnot to mention the affirmative action for conservative right-wing hacks in the Civil Rights Department…
wingnut affirmative action is a-okay though, because it’s only ending liberal bias.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:08 pm