Comments on: Savage: U.S. doesn’t want an ‘affirmative action’ president. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:38:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4255407 ucsbclassics53 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:08:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4255407 not to mention the affirmative action for conservative right-wing hacks in the Civil Rights Department... wingnut affirmative action is a-okay though, because it's only ending liberal bias. not to mention the affirmative action for conservative right-wing hacks in the Civil Rights Department…

wingnut affirmative action is a-okay though, because it’s only ending liberal bias.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4255100 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:25:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4255100 The Bush cultists thoughtfully concur on this - it just wouldn't be right to elect someone who didn't rise to his or her position on the basis of their own talent. Now, let's talk about a guy who got into Harvard Business School with less than a 3.0 GPA and got into Yale with less than a 3.0 GPA. Bush cultists: how did that happen? Was that affirmative action for the wealthy? The Bush cultists thoughtfully concur on this – it just wouldn’t be right to elect someone who didn’t rise to his or her position on the basis of their own talent. Now, let’s talk about a guy who got into Harvard Business School with less than a 3.0 GPA and got into Yale with less than a 3.0 GPA. Bush cultists: how did that happen? Was that affirmative action for the wealthy?

]]> By: buckone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254746 buckone Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:32:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254746 I don't think he knows what affirmative action is...or how it has been "used". "Affirmative action refers to policies intended to promote access..." "We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election? …" No policy was enacted in order to give them access to run, therefore not affermative action, not akin to it either. I don’t think he knows what affirmative action is…or how it has been “used”.

“Affirmative action refers to policies intended to promote access…”

“We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election? …”

No policy was enacted in order to give them access to run,
therefore not affermative action,
not akin to it either.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254736 RUCerious Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:23:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254736 Wait till the nominating is over, then we'll see foaming spittle flying from the likes of Thavage and Lush like never before. The nursing home dayrooms will be up in arms, with the waving of knobby fists and the clacking of misaligned dentures... Wait till the nominating is over, then we’ll see foaming spittle flying from the likes of Thavage and Lush like never before.

The nursing home dayrooms will be up in arms, with the waving of knobby fists and the clacking of misaligned dentures…

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254725 Evil Spaniard Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:09:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254725 <em>Savage is right in the sense that we should elect our president based on merit and not based on being “the First Woman” or the First Black” President. Comment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 am</em> Far better than choose a candidate because has a fake texan accent or you would like to have a beer with (curious, because he claims to be an ex-alcoholic). Savage is right in the sense that we should elect our president based on merit and not based on being “the First Woman” or the First Black” President.

Comment by good_golly — February 5, 2008 @ 10:00 am

Far better than choose a candidate because has a fake texan accent or you would like to have a beer with (curious, because he claims to be an ex-alcoholic).

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254722 Evil Spaniard Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:07:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254722 Eight years is enough for a "Negative Actions" President. Bush time is almost over. Eight years is enough for a “Negative Actions” President. Bush time is almost over.

]]> By: jpopphan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254707 jpopphan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:01:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254707 First, it is worth pointing out that, as usual, Michael Weiner has no idea what he's talking about. Second, note to Weiner, it is DEMOCRATIC not DEMOCRAT. Basic grammar there.... shouldn't be that hard. OK... on to the real topic: affirmative action. The comparison of the Democratic primary campaigns with affirmative action is total nonsense; no one is forcing either Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama on voters. Neither of them was asked to run; they chose to run themselves. If the voters in the Democratic primaries and caucauses have chosen Clinton and Obama, then that is who we chose, not who was appointed for us. First, it is worth pointing out that, as usual, Michael Weiner has no idea what he’s talking about.

Second, note to Weiner, it is DEMOCRATIC not DEMOCRAT. Basic grammar there…. shouldn’t be that hard.

OK… on to the real topic: affirmative action.

The comparison of the Democratic primary campaigns with affirmative action is total nonsense; no one is forcing either Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama on voters. Neither of them was asked to run; they chose to run themselves. If the voters in the Democratic primaries and caucauses have chosen Clinton and Obama, then that is who we chose, not who was appointed for us.

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254675 Buckie Boy Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:43:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254675 Their scared to death that it will be a landslide for the Dems. GOOD, this country needs to rid itself of the corrupt repukes for good. Buck Fush Their scared to death that it will be a landslide for the Dems. GOOD, this country needs to rid itself of the corrupt repukes for good.

Buck Fush

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254658 The Shadow Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:27:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254658 Reply to #1: There's only one problem with your and Savage's thinking. The US Constitution doesn't say that only white males can be elected President. Any besides that fact, blacks and women have every right and white males have regardless of affirmitive action. Why? They've earned it by fighting and dying is every war this country has ever fought including the two going on right now. What does it say about a country where only white men can rule? Apparently you and the idiots who agree with your comments also agree with the Taliban who treat women like dirt and make them cover their faces. If you want to be like the Arab countries and the Taliban, you have my permission to move there. I served this country protecting you stupid azz from these people and now you tell me I can't be President. Where did you get that right? Who gave it too you? You think because you are white, you automatically have it right? Think again stupid, the people of this country will deside who is President, not fools like you. Reply to #1: There’s only one problem with your and Savage’s thinking. The US Constitution doesn’t say that only white males can be elected President. Any besides that fact, blacks and women have every right and white males have regardless of affirmitive action. Why? They’ve earned it by fighting and dying is every war this country has ever fought including the two going on right now. What does it say about a country where only white men can rule? Apparently you and the idiots who agree with your comments also agree with the Taliban who treat women like dirt and make them cover their faces. If you want to be like the Arab countries and the Taliban, you have my permission to move there. I served this country protecting you stupid azz from these people and now you tell me I can’t be President. Where did you get that right? Who gave it too you? You think because you are white, you automatically have it right? Think again stupid, the people of this country will deside who is President, not fools like you.

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254650 ucsbclassics53 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:16:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254650 you wingnuts seem to think that African-Americans who are accepted into our universities do not deserve to get in. You seem to believe that racist carol which claimed that affirmative action programs accept D and F students. That's total BS. Same qualifications, not the D and F myth. you wingnuts seem to think that African-Americans who are accepted into our universities do not deserve to get in. You seem to believe that racist carol which claimed that affirmative action programs accept D and F students. That’s total BS. Same qualifications, not the D and F myth.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254601 Doc Rock Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:46:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254601 A Savage S C U M B A G! A Savage S C U M B A G!

]]> By: csavage http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254577 csavage Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:30:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254577 <i>I ’spose you could label the SE corner “liberal” (Ann Arbor, metro Detroit)...</i> Thankfully that's the part I live in (Ann Arborish)... I ’spose you could label the SE corner “liberal” (Ann Arbor, metro Detroit)…

Thankfully that’s the part I live in (Ann Arborish)…

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254518 katy Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:46:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254518 ya think, lefty? ya think, lefty?

]]> By: enough http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254502 enough Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:40:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254502 R.i.g.h.t... We all want brilliant white men like our current president. R.i.g.h.t… We all want brilliant white men like our current president.

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254498 lefty Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:37:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254498 i think mr savage weiner might have an issue with him being black i think mr savage weiner might have an issue with him being black

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254497 lefty Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:36:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254497 scientifically, because I think the black gene is dominant……what’s wrong with him being black? nothing as far as i'm concerned. it's that he's referred to being black while it could just as easily say he's white scientifically, because I think the black gene is dominant……what’s wrong with him being black?

nothing as far as i’m concerned. it’s that he’s referred to being black while it could just as easily say he’s white

]]> By: nellre http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254484 nellre Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:26:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254484 Savage is a troll. Nothing more. Savage is a troll. Nothing more.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254470 MCMetal Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:18:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254470 What gap do you believe is larger in the U.S., Gender Gap or Race Gap? Comment by PollM — February 5, 2008 @ 10:10 am The gap between Condiliesalot's teeth .............. What gap do you believe is larger in the U.S., Gender Gap or Race Gap?

Comment by PollM — February 5, 2008 @ 10:10 am

The gap between Condiliesalot’s teeth …………..

]]> By: mparker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254457 mparker Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:09:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254457 The racist Savage said : "We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election?" Ah, no it doesn't. Not at all. Not in the least bit. How does a woman or a multi ethnic man running for elected office have anything to do with affirmative action? AGAIN, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT AT ALL ! There is no quota, there is no assistance being given for race or gender, there is no percentage of Presidential candidates that MUST be Female or of any ethnic group. Savage is trying to scare up some support using his dog whistle bullshit on any rube he can find. The racist Savage said :

“We have a woman and a multi-ethnic man running for office on the Democrat side. Is this not akin to an affirmative action election?”

Ah, no it doesn’t. Not at all. Not in the least bit.

How does a woman or a multi ethnic man running for elected office have anything to do with affirmative action?

AGAIN, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT AT ALL !

There is no quota, there is no assistance being given for race or gender, there is no percentage of Presidential candidates that MUST be Female or of any ethnic group.

Savage is trying to scare up some support using his dog whistle bullshit on any rube he can find.

]]> By: pbg http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/comment-page-2/#comment-4254443 pbg Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:58:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/05/savage-us-doesnt-want-an-affirmative-action-president/#comment-4254443 Under Apartheid in South Africa, if you were part white and part black (or from India) you were in a different category: Colored. But in the American South, one drop of black blood made you black. (this was inevitable, with white slave owners using their black slaves for pleasure.) In Louisiana it was codified: look up what 'quadroon' and 'octaroon' mean. Our evil traditions still shape us. Put Barack Obama in a Honda Accord and send him through Simi Valley at night, and he'd get stopped for Driving While Black. Q.E.D. Barack Obama was president of the Harvard Law School law review. If he becomes president, that's not affirmative action, that's meritocracy. Under Apartheid in South Africa, if you were part white and part black (or from India) you were in a different category: Colored.
But in the American South, one drop of black blood made you black. (this was inevitable, with white slave owners using their black slaves for pleasure.)
In Louisiana it was codified: look up what ‘quadroon’ and ‘octaroon’ mean.
Our evil traditions still shape us.
Put Barack Obama in a Honda Accord and send him through Simi Valley at night, and he’d get stopped for Driving While Black.
Q.E.D.

Barack Obama was president of the Harvard Law School law review. If he becomes president, that’s not affirmative action, that’s meritocracy.

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