Secret camp inside Gitmo confirmed.
By on Feb 6th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Secret camp inside Gitmo confirmed.
AP reports:
For the first time, the top commander of detention operations at Guantanamo has confirmed the existence of the mysterious Camp 7. [...]
Guantanamo commanders said Camp 7 is for key alleged al-Qaida members, who must be kept apart from other prisoners to prevent them from retaliating against long-term detainees who have talked to interrogators. They also want the location kept secret for fear of terrorist attack. [...]
Red Cross representatives have visited Camp 7 and all the other detention facilities at Guantanamo, confirmed Geoff Loane, head of the humanitarian organization’s delegation in Washington. He declined to give details.
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February 6th, 2008 at 6:06 pmIt's a Secret, just like all the other crimes Bush has committed, it's a Secret.
Buck Fush
February 6th, 2008 at 6:07 pmOMG!
February 6th, 2008 at 6:11 pmIs this USA or Nazi Germany?
Makes you wonder what else is being kept secret around the world, that this administration has its dirty little fingers in?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:13 pmThis is one of the places where we are not torturing people.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:17 pmFolks
All prisons have what are called Segregation Units. You can't run a prison without them.
That said, I'll bet that one is a real hole.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:19 pmNo, Bob, you got it wrong.
This is NOT one of the places where we are NOT torturing people...
February 6th, 2008 at 6:19 pmWell we were but not any more, sort of, kinda, except for maybe this secret gulag in a gulag. It is secret so it does not really exist and so nothing can be happening there. blah, blah, blah
February 6th, 2008 at 6:20 pmFor the life of me I can't figure out why ANYONE would want to be the President after the Bush Crime Family. Can you imagine how hard it is going to be to clean up this mess.
On another note. I would love to hear people ask Clinton and Obama what they plan to do about the Bush Crime Family once they take office. I really want a President who will investigate all the crimes that they have committed and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. If they don't do this, the shame and the secrecy will hang over our heads forever. We need to bring all the creepy crawlers out into the sunlight and purge our government of the NeoCONs forever.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:23 pmWhat kind of idiot compares a detention facility for al Qaeda to the Gulag?
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
what kind of idiot can't see that comparison? what kind of idiot are you, usa patoot? what kind of country keeps secret prisons?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:31 pmWhat kind of idiot compares a detention facility for al Qaeda to the Gulag?
Comment by USA_Patriot
But if the facility doesn't really exist and we don't torture - what is the difference in what we call it? Most banana republics are comfortable using torture, Bush and his bunch want us to get used to it too. We are going to see much more evidence of our nation being torn apart by the neocons. The repubs are daring the country to try and stop them. Well, can we stop them? Has any candidate for president indicated if they will keep bush's policies in place or are they going to prosecute him?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:33 pmgulag also Gulag (gū'läg)
n.
A network of forced labor camps in the former Soviet Union.
A forced labor camp or prison, especially for political dissidents.
A place or situation of great suffering and hardship, likened to the atmosphere in a prison system or a forced labor camp.
I'll take number two for a thousand, Alex...
February 6th, 2008 at 6:34 pmUSA_Patriot, may I call you YouSap for short? Thanks.
What part of haebus corpus do you hate more, the habeus, or the corpus?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pmThere is no comparison, you unamerican sicko. None.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:34 pm
really? why? this government claps anybody in prison it wants to, without proof, never tries them, keeps them hidden from view, without lawyers. no difference from the gulag at all, not one bit, you traitor.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pmAh, so you consider al Qaeda terrorists to be “political dissidentsâ€. OK, thanks for being honest about your sympathies.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:35 pm
so you consider untried prisoners to be Al Qaeda, with no proof of any sort. thanks for being honest about your love for Soviet-style justice, traitor.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:36 pmMove that "man sized safe" in Cheneys office and I'll betcha you'll find the entrance to camp 8.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:37 pmWhat does habeas corpus have to do with foreign enemy combatants?
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:36 pm
how about some proof of the charges? there isn't any, you know. that's why they're kept in secret. you idiot.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:37 pmOK, thanks for being honest about your sympathies.
Comment by USA_Patriot
I sympathize for the innocents we are torturing - how about you?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:37 pmWhat kind of idiot compares a detention facility for al Qaeda to the Gulag?
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
I thought everybody knew that Stalag 7 was the proper name.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pmI feel better that the Red Cross visited Camp 7 but I'd feel much better if they would tell the world what they saw. Nope! It's a secret!! Even the Red Cross is on lockdown. Secret, secret, secret. There has to be a way for our cowardly congress to get off its duff and for DOJ to investigate these things and put the minders on the run. To get Bush and his thugs to quit using secrets and national security as a rock to hide under.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pmThis is a lie, you traitor: “this government claps anybody in prison it wants to, without proof, never tries them, keeps them hidden from view, without lawyers.â€
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:37 pm
All true, and you have no proof otherwise. Denial is a sick state of mind, you fascist nutcase. You have no business calling yourself an American, you're a traitor.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pmThis whole 'enemy combatant' labeling is horseshit.
Many of these prisoners were bountied up by Pakistani police and other renegade bands who suckered the CIA into thinking they were terrerists.
Anybody the president proclaims an enemy combatant, is.
That's a violation of the principle of habeus corpus.
Section 9, Article 8 :
The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
Got rebellion or invasion lately?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm“I sympathize for the innocents we are torturing â€
Evidence?
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Admitted this morning by the Attorney General. Moron. Try reading something besides "Mein Kampf", Nazi prick.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pmWow, you lefties hate America as much as al Qaeda does.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Al Qaeda is funded and supported by the GOP, the true America-haters. haven't you seen Bushie tiptoeing through the tulips with his lover Bandar?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pmAnd more,
February 6th, 2008 at 6:45 pmThe basic premise behind habeas corpus is that you cannot be held against your will without just cause. To put it another way, you cannot be jailed if there are no charges against you. If you are being held, and you demand it, the courts must issue a writ of habeas corpus, which forces those holding you to answer as to why. If there is no good or compelling reason, the court must set you free. It is important to note that of all the civil liberties we take for granted today as a part of the Bill of Rights, the importance of habeas corpus is illustrated by the fact that it was the sole liberty thought important enough to be included in the original text of the Constitution.
More to the point, what need does the USA have for secret prisons? I thought we were supposed to be setting an example for the world to follow, not trying our own version of the gulag system.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:45 pmGuantanamo commanders said Camp 7 is for key alleged al-Qaida members, who must be kept apart from other prisoners
...Camp 7 is for "Key" alleged al-Qaida members.
...The rest of the facility is for regular alleged al-Qaida members?
...How many of these alleged al-Qaida members have they successfully convicted? Even with their secret military trials? And enhanced interrogation technqiues?
February 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pmComment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:44 pm
well, i guess I got you good, you have nothing to say! Figures you'd steal somebody else's words, like you steal taxpayer money for the rich arms dealers that love to cheer the deaths of American troops. You've shown your true colors now, you dolt. Moron is a compliment to you.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pm…How many of these alleged al-Qaida members have they successfully convicted? Even with their secret military trials? And enhanced interrogation technqiues?
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — February 6, 2008 @ 6:46 pm
Zero, which is the proof that it's a gulag, no different from the Soviets'.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pmThat applies to criminal cases in civilian courts, not to enemy combatants in war, you ignoramus.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
Wrong again, you traitor, You don't even know about American law. What an idiot.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:47 pmGeorge Bush is the world's leading terrorist, and terrorist sponsor. His followers are terrorist enablers, and should be improisoned along with him.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:49 pmTestimony of Mr. Bruce Fein Partner Fein & Fein
before the Senate Juciary committee...
September 25, 2006
"...
To preserve the Great Writ for enemy combatants is not to exalt
form over substance. Enemy combatants may be erroneously detained
for at least three reasons.
Ethnic, tribal, political, or religious
adversaries may have supplied the United States military with false
information. Further, terrorists routinely operate amidst civilian
populations. That loathsome tactic creates a non-trivial risk that
American soldiers in the heat of battle may mistake an innocent
civilian for an Al Qaeda member or supporter.
Finally, the executive may exaggerate incriminating evidence and ignore the exculpatory for political effect.
The greater the number of enemy combatants
detained, the greater the public appearance that the fight against
international terrorism is succeeding.
In politics, optics is everything. That seems to be the explanation for the misidentification of Canadian Maher Arar as a terrorist and his deportation by the United States to Syria, where he was tortured. "
February 6th, 2008 at 6:49 pmTrials and convictions are not applicable to enemy combatants in wars, you ignoramus.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:49 pm
yes they are, unless you're the USSR, you cowardly traitor.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:49 pmLooks like USA patsy would rather be in North Korea.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:50 pmTrials and convictions are not applicable to enemy combatants in wars, you ignoramus.
Comment by USA_Patriot
But you would have to believe Bush and his criminal enterprise that those caught are actual combatants - and there is no evidence of that. Most of those poor souls are being outed by rival tribes or to settle some other score.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pmComment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
yes, and I'll send them on to you, a person of interest who disregards American law and the constitution. They'll probably give me a medal for turning in a traitor.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pmNot only have we trashed our Constitution, we have tossed out the Geneva Conventions, and now we have become the Russia of old with secret gulags for prisoners. We may not be forcing them to work at hard labor, but we torture them, isolate them and defy the high ground on which we always stood.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:52 pmRUCerious, I just saw your definition of gulag -- I guess our minds were on the same path.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:53 pmHmm, not the first time!! :)
Hamdan vs Rumsfeld
Rasul vs Bush
Look them up. Then tell us how "Trials and convictions are not applicable to enemy combatants in wars, you ignoramus."
February 6th, 2008 at 6:54 pmMarie, nor will it be the last!!~
February 6th, 2008 at 6:54 pmLets discuss the rendition program as well. I mean what a great idea, we can't say attach electrodes to a guys balls in the US so lets send him to Syria, or Egypt where we can. What loathsome thing. I typically find those who talk about the need for government secrecy, torture, and secret prisons are probably the same type of people who had all sorts of logical reasons for slavery in the US.
John C. Calhoun, in a famous speech in the Senate in 1837, declared that slavery was "instead of an evil, a good—a positive good."
February 6th, 2008 at 6:56 pmThis entire thread speaks to the ruination of our beloved country and what it once stood for. America once was a beacon of liberty and freedom. Not anymore - USA Patriot and his kool-aid drinkers are working overtime to make us even worse. They are the enemy. If there is any torture to go around, it must begin with them.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:56 pmStupid Fascist Traitorous Comments by USA_Patriot
You, moron are the traitor, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, go put on your brownshirt and goose step off the nearest cliff.
Bush has been kidnapping and torturing innocent civilians for years and they have been trying to have their day in court but our courts say, no, because of national security, in other words it would prove in our courts that Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL. And scum sucking brownshirt fascist pigs like you are accomplices to their crimes.
Buck Fush
February 6th, 2008 at 6:58 pmThere is no comparison, you unamerican sicko. None.
Comment by USA_Patriot
this bottom feeder thinks he can take a name and morp magically into what the name depicts....
Reality he is nothing but a traitor to America.....a regular benidict arnold....that is the username he should be using......
mr tough guy behind a computer screen......what a putz...what a cry baby suck a titty baby....I haven't heard such whining since ....well I've never heard such whining....
why doesn't he throw some more threats out at people that he can't back up...cause he's a baby.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:58 pmTrials and convictions are not applicable to enemy combatants in wars, you ignoramus.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 6:49 pm
There has been no declaration of war, only an authorization to use military force. Next you'll be locking people up without a trial over the war on poverty or the war on drugs. What a Nazi pig.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:59 pmMay I suggest a new moniker for our fascist troll?
USAP.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:01 pmYou won't know if they're innocent unless you charge and try them, now would you?
How about a response to my two legal citations, asswipe USAP?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pmusa_patriot in name only....please read the following description of you and your ilk...it is and accurate depiction of what you are:
quote from JMOHR:
It is time that we treat good_golly and other similar vermin in the manner that all such subhumans should be treated:
1. There is absolutely no pretense of civil discourse. They are simply wrong. There is absolutely no debate and nothing they say can create a legitimate debate.
2. Let them know that they are criminal scum and will not be debated. They need to learn that their beliefs are not just wrong but criminal and absolutely immoral. These scum have too long gained a semblance of legitimacy by claiming that you have a right to civil debate. They do not.
3. Let them know that we believe they are no better than any other terrorist. They advocate crimes against humanity. They need to know that we will label them as what they are.
4. Let them know that we wish them the fate of all terrorists to include exclusion from civil society, imprisonment and death in a very public execution.
5. If you meet one in public, then I suggest that you help them follow the golden rule - do to them that which they would do a terrorist. They can have no complaint. They set the rules of engagement.
Comment by JMOHR
February 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pmWhat is it they say about getting into a pissing contest with a pig?
You both get it all over you, but the pig has fun!
February 6th, 2008 at 7:05 pmI’m a used rubber
Comment by USA_Patriot
There that's better.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:07 pmno harsh interrogation for terrorist killers, but actual torture should be considered for Americans who simply disagree with the left. Sick, sick stuff.
Comment by USA_Patriot
See, that is where your delusions become apparent. The 'terrorist killers' you mention are neither - until convicted with real evidence. They are merely accused in the quaint tradition of American jurisprudence. You, however, make your allegiance very clear with your words. In that regard, you confessed to your crimes against humanity and therefore should be punished with the same tools you would use on the innocents. That seems fair - not sick - to thinking people everywhere. Why does the right side hate America?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:08 pm68
February 6th, 2008 at 7:08 pmyou sound kinda whiny now son.
Hmmm.. don't recall a town named Nuremburg, do you...
February 6th, 2008 at 7:09 pmbreaking news: off topic!~~ sorry...
BREAKING NEWS
updated 34 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans blocked a move by Democrats on Wednesday to add more than $40 billion in checks for the elderly, disabled veterans and the unemployed to a bill to stimulate the economy.
The 58-41 vote fell just short of the 60 required to break a GOP filibuster and bring the Senate version of the stimulus bill closer to a final vote. The Senate measure was backed by Democrats and a handful of Republicans but was strongly opposed by GOP leaders and President Bush, who objected to the costly add-ons.
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February 6th, 2008 at 7:10 pmMore repuglycan obstructionism..
We didn’t give trials to your Nazi friends captured in WWII.
Comment by USA_Patriot
dropped your panties on this one........it was called Nouremboug....look it up. A few real facts might not hurt ya too much.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:10 pmMore money for guns, but for disabled vets and unemployed Americans, well, USAP will gladly take them in and feed and clothe them, wontcha, USAP?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pmWe didn’t give trials to your Nazi friends captured in WWII.
Comment by USA_Patriot
Good God - do you not see the difference between a declared war (congressional declaration) with Bush's vanity invasion under an AUMF? Are you simply being a troublesome troll, or do you have mental issues we should be aware of? Do you remember Nuremberg? It was in all the papers.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pmUSA_Patriot-
February 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pmAh, another proud bootlicking RNC cardholder. These traitors are pretty lucky that the Democratic Party believes in habeus corpus and due process. If not they would all, Bush/Cheney included, be rounded up next January and given the fate that traitors to this Country deserve...the end of a rope. These neocons go against everything this nation was founded on yet somehow in their warped, fascist psyche consider themselves to actually be patriots. A true patriot loves his Country over his party. A true patriot believes deeply that we are a nation of laws, not men, and that ALL men (politicians included) are equally bound by our laws. A true patriot deeply cherishes his freedoms and angrily detests ANYONE who would attempt to infringe on them. For the life of me I'll never understand how these apologists of the most unpatriotic, treasonous, criminal Administration this Country has ever seen consider their unquestioned loyalty to a president as being patriotic and anyone who disagrees is called "traitor". I'll freely admit that I am a traitor... a traitor to George W. Bush, his corrupt Administration and his neocon (read: un-American) agenda but I will always consider myself to be the truest of Americans. These goose stepping bottomfeeders will never understand what being a true American patriot is. They are blinded by their own sense of what's right wrapped in an unjustified sense of entitlement and a greed for power and money that knows no bounds and won't end until it is ended for them. January can't come soon enough for this tired frustrated American. FU(K YOU "USA_Patriot" AND THE BLIND GASEOUS ELEPHANT THAT YOU RODE IN ON!
Your rank and file Nazi soldiers weren’t tried at Nuremburg during the war, you ignoramus.
Comment by USA_Patriot
This is getting tiresome. The Nazi's who tortured were put on trial - at least the ones we could apprehend and bring to court. That is how it shold be done - not with Bush's lynch mob.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pmUSAP, I hope you believe in a merciful god, cause you're going to need one when you move on.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pmMy god, Crom, would feed you to a serpent.
usa_patriot in name only
you have disrupted the adults long enough...you've shown us your panties...now run along and play.....maybe pick up a book or somthing educational.....
February 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pmInsanity: “Bush has been kidnapping and torturing innocent civilians for yearsâ€
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 7:01 pm
insanity it is, but truth also, unfortunately for you, USA patsy. Bush is insane, we all know that. And if welfare state ahndouts are not a federal responsibility, then why are all the big banks lining up for them? you have no idea how this country is supposed to work. I doubt you're a citizen at all, you sound like a commie spy.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:17 pmNo, what’s the difference?
Comment by USA_Patriot
The difference between you and a traitor? None; none whatsoever.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:17 pm"National defense" from a country with no WMD and who posed no threat to the US? More like USSR_Putin_lover than USA_anything. Why do the rethuglicans hate the American people?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pmYour Nazi leadership was tried after the war ended. So what does that have to do with detaining combatants during a war?
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
that's YOUR nazi leadership, and they weren't tried until they were captured of they surrendered. You know less about history than you do about government. You are without brain, or patriotism.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pmwell, if USA patsy is any indication, the GOP is done and ruined. all they have left is retarded infants to fight their battles.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pmusa_patriot in name only
you have totally embarrased yourself....you came in here slinging shit and threats.....by the way I'm still waiting for the knock on the door....what's the holdup?
then you proved to everyone for 24000 miles in any direction that you were totally ignorant and you still want more punisment...what are you a larry craig boy?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pmWe didn’t give trials to your Nazi friends captured in WWII.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 7:07 pm
No, we gave trials to your Nazi friends, and they, like you will be, were sent to their deaths for their treason.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pmwell, if USA patsy is any indication, the GOP is done and ruined. all they have left is retarded infants to fight their battles.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
really, that was just kinda sad wasn't it?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:22 pmLots of juvenile name-calling and hatred from the left. In other words, SSDD.
Comment by USA_Patriot
we don't show everyone this side of us....just the ones that come in here threatening to have us thown in jail as traitors and executed........executed the republican way....without a trial.
no one is going to talk to you.....you have shown your hand....we know who you are.....is someone knocking on your door??
February 6th, 2008 at 7:27 pmLots of juvenile name-calling and hatred from the left. In other words, SSDD.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
hey, you lost. Get over it. you always lose, you should be used to it by now. LOSER.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:28 pmUSA Patriot?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:31 pmWeren't these those missles/weapons systems that worked so poorly during the Gulf War? Didn't we claim they were super successful just to feel good about the USA?
I’ll freely admit that I am a traitor… a traitor to George W. Bush, his corrupt Administration and his neocon (read: un-American) agenda but I will always consider myself to be the truest of Americans. These goose stepping bottomfeeders will never understand what being a true American patriot is. They are blinded by their own sense of what’s right wrapped in an unjustified sense of entitlement and a greed for power and money that knows no bounds and won’t end until it is ended for them. January can’t come soon enough for this tired frustrated American. FU(K YOU “USA_Patriot†AND THE BLIND GASEOUS ELEPHANT THAT YOU RODE IN ON!
Comment by Bushed
You are not the traitor Bushed. Our undying loyalty is to our country not to a leader. Leaders are from time to time not perfect....that is why the founders set things up the way they did....
Bush is the traitor.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:33 pmI lose nothing when you show your true colors with your hate-filled rants.
Comment by USA_Patriot — February 6, 2008 @ 7:31 pm
You had nothing to begin with, except lies and ignorance. You got your ass handed to you, now take it and leave; you're stinking the place up.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:34 pmThe guys in the office here (end of day) are getting a freaking huge laugh out of USA Prick, but then some are surprised that someone this ignorant can still exist now-a-days.
Keep up the comedy, Used Rubber Boy.
Buck Fush
February 6th, 2008 at 7:41 pm"the International Red Cross has access...Red Cross representatives have visited Camp 7 and all the other detention facilities at Guantanamo, confirmed Geoff Loane, head of the humanitarian organization’s delegation in Washington."
Yeah, sounds like a real "secret" "hellhole."
February 6th, 2008 at 7:45 pmRE USA patriot:
Keep in mind folks, republicans use phrases that are the opposite of what they mean. Think about larry craig and family values for instance. This clod is no patriot. he is the worst kind of traitor. ignore it and it will go away.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:45 pmClassic projection: “You had nothing to begin with, except lies and ignorance. “
Comment by USA_Patriot
this tells me that you are just a boilerplate troll....even probably proud of it......you and exley need to be sure to read post #64 and post #77
these are addressed to you.....this is what I and some others think of you and this is how you will be dealt with....I cannot speak for everyone but I will not be addressing you directly. You are not worthy.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:49 pmWhy is this so difficult? We formally declare war on the entity known as Al Qeada. You establish a standing grand jury at Gitmo.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:01 pmYou formally charge the detainees with a war crime (e.g. involveent in the deliberate killing of civilians not associated with a military target). You provide a defense attorney. You allow a member of the UN or designated internal body to monitor the procedings. If found guilty of the war crime(s) the prisoner is offered a reduced sentence if they cooperate with providing information on AQ, if they refuse the prisoner is executed. If found not guilty of a war crime but guilty of association with AQ, the prisoner is retained as a POW.
If found guilty of neither, he is released to his country of citizenship.
C'mon guys you took the stupid ditto-heads bait. This Vet sees clearly what "patriot" is. A useless troll that needs abuse.I'm thinking he's probably 15 and still hiding behund mamas skirt.Don't talk directly to it because it's not worth the attention.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:01 pmComment by Miles Tougeaux
sounds reasonable, problem is we have war criminals in charge...they like the idea of secrets and invisible detention camps....they could care less about the damage to our good name.....in fact I think they are intent on destroying us if we don't put a stop to it.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:04 pmGot it Fred. I assume we would need to replace the current US regime first.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:12 pmBush has authorized the CIA to torture. Bush has authorized NSA to tap phones, monitor emails and regular mail. His administration picks people up off the street, hobbles them, and takes them against their will to secret torture locations. Bush and Cheney dummied up intelligence got a war started and got almost 4000 of our troops killed to date. Thousands of Iraqis have died and will die as long as they are not allowed to settle their own problems. Bush made all of this up, it's a fairy tale war with real consequences. Bush has ignored the separation of powers and has intentionally altered legislation by signing statements, he has refused to honor subpoenas from congress and he has hidden or his cronies have hidden and/or destroyed emails regarding the outing of a CIA agent by Bush and Cheney. Patriotism implies that regardless of party you want to save the Union, to preserve its foundational document, the constitution, and you want to see the rule of law. Financially, this country is about to go in the dump and it's causes are numerous but Bush is responsible for the rich making out and the average guy taking it in the fantail. We need to find a way to stop divisive politics and do some problem solving. If all you want to do is argue USA Patriot (why aren't you in Iraq if you're a patriot?) do it in such a way that we can all come to consensus about some things we can do together to turn all of this around. Finally, did everyone see Bush dancing with the Saudi Prince holding that sword on high with a big shit eatin' grin. He kisses their butts, he asked "his majesty" to produce more oil. His majesty said no. How embarassing! Saudi Arabia, the home of 19 hijackers on 9/11 and they haven't been touched. Instead Bush attacked Iraq...talk about a diversion.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:55 pmKeep in mind folks, Democrats use phrases that are the opposite of what they mean, “progressive†for example.
Comment by USA_Patriot
ah yes, the old "I know you are but what am I?" defense. you sir are a master of debate. now leave the grown ups alone and go masterdebate.
February 6th, 2008 at 9:09 pmThe truth will out. When the light finally hits all the dark recesses of this administration and reveals all the illegal, unethical activity, our country will hang its head in shame. Thanks GOPigs.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:28 pmStalag 7.
February 7th, 2008 at 2:09 pmThe truth will out. When the light finally hits all the dark recesses of this administration and reveals all the illegal, unethical activity, our country will hang its head in shame. Thanks GOPigs.
Comment by jb — February 6, 2008 @ 10:28 pm
Who is going to shine that blinding Xenon light? Why in the hell is Hillary jumping up and clapping when Bush says "More Wars" at the State of The Union speech?" Since she seems to be anointed the new "Queen Bee", and all of the liberal drones are buzzing around her hive, why do we think the situation will change? I mean, come on, a Salomi sandwich could run after what Bush has done and win. Enough of these "investigations" by the democrats on Bush Crimes. Shape-Shifting is a new practice for both Dems and Repubs. I hear stuff like "Hillary or Obama will pull the rug out from AIPAC when one of them elected". This would be funny is not so ridiculously sad.
Now, secret prisons inside Gulags.......I used to think Alex Jones was nutty, with secret detention camps in the USA and such. Watching the Police State we are in, 300 taser deaths, beatings of peaceful protesters, eavesdropping on everyone, and finally economic collapse of which the history of the planet has never seen, I begin to wonder whether this Gitmo is a trial run for the people of the USA, and maybe these militia guys weren't so nuts.
Just thinking out loud...........
February 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pm