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	<title>Comments on: White House Claims It Will Abandon Long-Term &#8216;Security Guarantee&#8217; With Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4256354</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, but the foreign aggression Iraq has suffered through has come from THE UNITED STATES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but the foreign aggression Iraq has suffered through has come from THE UNITED STATES!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4256354', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4256146</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The press is finally doing its job.   Bush tried to sneak this treaty obligation past us, without going thru congress.

Fortunately, NPR reported on it, and the story was picked up by other TV Networks.  Clearly a commitment to defend Iraq from external and INTERNAL threats is News!  I don&#039;t know what other news sources and blogs carried the story...but Bush reacted to the story getting out by backing out.
 This same pattern occured with Bush&#039;s desire to attack Iran Militarily. Kudos to Seymore Hersch.

It&#039;s a shame that the press&#039;s backbone only developed after about six years of disasterous Bush Damage to our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The press is finally doing its job.   Bush tried to sneak this treaty obligation past us, without going thru congress.</p>
<p>Fortunately, NPR reported on it, and the story was picked up by other TV Networks.  Clearly a commitment to defend Iraq from external and INTERNAL threats is News!  I don&#8217;t know what other news sources and blogs carried the story&#8230;but Bush reacted to the story getting out by backing out.<br />
 This same pattern occured with Bush&#8217;s desire to attack Iran Militarily. Kudos to Seymore Hersch.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that the press&#8217;s backbone only developed after about six years of disasterous Bush Damage to our country.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4256146', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255968</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and I just bought this neato bridge in Arizona!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and I just bought this neato bridge in Arizona!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: judyo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255952</link>
		<dc:creator>judyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, you believe them???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, you believe them???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255952', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255916</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very first clue, is, as always

&quot;As a liberal/progressive...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very first clue, is, as always</p>
<p>&#8220;As a liberal/progressive&#8230;&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255916', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255907</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>besides, REAL dems/progressives donâ€™t have to state as muchâ€¦
itâ€™s known by the messageâ€¦

they get confused if they get away from the boilerplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>besides, REAL dems/progressives donâ€™t have to state as muchâ€¦<br />
itâ€™s known by the messageâ€¦</p>
<p>they get confused if they get away from the boilerplate.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255907', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255903</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>besides, REAL dems/progressives don&#039;t have to state as much...
it&#039;s known by the message...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>besides, REAL dems/progressives don&#8217;t have to state as much&#8230;<br />
it&#8217;s known by the message&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255903', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255899</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Who cares if itâ€™s not an official warâ€¦. hundreds of thousands are dead and dying and the democrats wonâ€™t stand to end it.&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s repuglycan obstructionists who are preventing it, in the Senate.

&lt;em&gt;Half of your party voted for Hillary and she has most of the super delegates.&lt;/em&gt;

Hillary has 80 more bound delegates than Obama, it isn&#039;t about how the vote went.

Super delegates are not bound at the convention. A recent poll showed Hillary being currently favored. That doesn&#039;t mean they are hers.
Do your homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who cares if itâ€™s not an official warâ€¦. hundreds of thousands are dead and dying and the democrats wonâ€™t stand to end it.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s repuglycan obstructionists who are preventing it, in the Senate.</p>
<p><em>Half of your party voted for Hillary and she has most of the super delegates.</em></p>
<p>Hillary has 80 more bound delegates than Obama, it isn&#8217;t about how the vote went.</p>
<p>Super delegates are not bound at the convention. A recent poll showed Hillary being currently favored. That doesn&#8217;t mean they are hers.<br />
Do your homework.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255899', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255897</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Mr Pee got a new IP ~?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Mr Pee got a new IP ~?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255897', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gummitch</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255889</link>
		<dc:creator>gummitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fascinating that goon_golly managed to complete derail the thread with one short comment. The troll is definitely earning its keep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fascinating that goon_golly managed to complete derail the thread with one short comment. The troll is definitely earning its keep.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255889', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255884</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constitutionalist - this was your second post:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Um so youâ€™re going to argue semantics about what the war is called? you sound like a Bush Republican.

itâ€™s true that the democrats have lost their way and spine as much as the Republicans have been corrupted from true conservatism.

Who cares if itâ€™s not an official warâ€¦. hundreds of thousands are dead and dying and the democrats wonâ€™t stand to end it.

Half of your party voted for Hillary and she has most of the super delegates.

that tells me that half of your party is ok with somebody who
1. voted for the war.
2. hasnâ€™t set a clear table to end it.

So what does that say about the democrats?

You compromise until you have nothing left.

Comment by Constitutionalist &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is as divisive a statement as you can make here.  It is designed to rip alliances based on hatred of hillary....you are a troll until you prove otherwise and i will treat you as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitutionalist &#8211; this was your second post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Um so youâ€™re going to argue semantics about what the war is called? you sound like a Bush Republican.</p>
<p>itâ€™s true that the democrats have lost their way and spine as much as the Republicans have been corrupted from true conservatism.</p>
<p>Who cares if itâ€™s not an official warâ€¦. hundreds of thousands are dead and dying and the democrats wonâ€™t stand to end it.</p>
<p>Half of your party voted for Hillary and she has most of the super delegates.</p>
<p>that tells me that half of your party is ok with somebody who<br />
1. voted for the war.<br />
2. hasnâ€™t set a clear table to end it.</p>
<p>So what does that say about the democrats?</p>
<p>You compromise until you have nothing left.</p>
<p>Comment by Constitutionalist </p></blockquote>
<p>This is as divisive a statement as you can make here.  It is designed to rip alliances based on hatred of hillary&#8230;.you are a troll until you prove otherwise and i will treat you as such.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255884', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255876</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll second Bilbo, Constitutionalist, I was the one referring to you as a troll.

Perhaps if you commented on the topic of the thread, one would appreciate the point you were trying to make...

The topic of the thread is the BushitCo &quot;arrangement&quot; with Iraq.

Got anything to say about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll second Bilbo, Constitutionalist, I was the one referring to you as a troll.</p>
<p>Perhaps if you commented on the topic of the thread, one would appreciate the point you were trying to make&#8230;</p>
<p>The topic of the thread is the BushitCo &#8220;arrangement&#8221; with Iraq.</p>
<p>Got anything to say about that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255873</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constitutionalist - this was your opening post:

why do you guys even cover the war?

your party doesnâ€™t even stand strongly to end it.

Comment by Constitutionalist â€” February 6, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

That comment was designed to start trouble.  First of all, if you&#039;ve ever been here before, you would know that posters here are not strictly Democrats.  Secondly, are you implying that we should blindly file down the path that the party leaders are advocating?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitutionalist &#8211; this was your opening post:</p>
<p>why do you guys even cover the war?</p>
<p>your party doesnâ€™t even stand strongly to end it.</p>
<p>Comment by Constitutionalist â€” February 6, 2008 @ 12:54 pm</p>
<p>That comment was designed to start trouble.  First of all, if you&#8217;ve ever been here before, you would know that posters here are not strictly Democrats.  Secondly, are you implying that we should blindly file down the path that the party leaders are advocating?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255873', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255867</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;or are you all censorship nazis now too?
Comment by Constitutionalist&lt;/em&gt;

Constitutionalist, I&#039;ll give you the benefit of the doubt (for now)  and stop calling you a troll.  But you are talking like a troll since you are trashing Democrats and you seem to think that because we are criticizing what you have to say, we are censoring you.  If we were censoring you, you would not be able to post here at all, like the Republiscum sites.

Your trashing the Democratic party is what makes us think you are a troll.  We have had many trolls here recently who come here and proclaim that they are a Liberal and then proceed to trash liberals and progressives.  Your views sound decidedly un-liberal so you can get used to being criticized here or you can choose to leave.  The choice is yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>or are you all censorship nazis now too?<br />
Comment by Constitutionalist</em></p>
<p>Constitutionalist, I&#8217;ll give you the benefit of the doubt (for now)  and stop calling you a troll.  But you are talking like a troll since you are trashing Democrats and you seem to think that because we are criticizing what you have to say, we are censoring you.  If we were censoring you, you would not be able to post here at all, like the Republiscum sites.</p>
<p>Your trashing the Democratic party is what makes us think you are a troll.  We have had many trolls here recently who come here and proclaim that they are a Liberal and then proceed to trash liberals and progressives.  Your views sound decidedly un-liberal so you can get used to being criticized here or you can choose to leave.  The choice is yours.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255867', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255865</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ha bilbo keeps doin thisâ€¦â€¦.easy error. I respect and amire both John Edwards and Al Goreâ€¦.wish we had them both totally engaged in our countries decision making proces..
Comment by Fred &lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re right.  I plead &quot;old timer&#039;s disease&quot;.

But the sentiment was correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ha bilbo keeps doin thisâ€¦â€¦.easy error. I respect and amire both John Edwards and Al Goreâ€¦.wish we had them both totally engaged in our countries decision making proces..<br />
Comment by Fred </em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  I plead &#8220;old timer&#8217;s disease&#8221;.</p>
<p>But the sentiment was correct.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255865', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Constitutionalist</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255864</link>
		<dc:creator>Constitutionalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not a troll.
I use to be a democrat and I feel sold out.

I have a right to voice my opinion.

or are you all censorship nazis now too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not a troll.<br />
I use to be a democrat and I feel sold out.</p>
<p>I have a right to voice my opinion.</p>
<p>or are you all censorship nazis now too?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255864', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255856</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that John Edwards was the first Vice President in our history that had a job other than being a figurehead and a placeholder. 
Comment by bilbobaggins 

ha bilbo keeps doin this.......easy error.  I respect and amire both John Edwards and Al Gore....wish we had them both totally engaged in our countries decision making proces..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that John Edwards was the first Vice President in our history that had a job other than being a figurehead and a placeholder.<br />
Comment by bilbobaggins </p>
<p>ha bilbo keeps doin this&#8230;&#8230;.easy error.  I respect and amire both John Edwards and Al Gore&#8230;.wish we had them both totally engaged in our countries decision making proces..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255856', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/wh-iraq-security-guarantee/comment-page-2/#comment-4255852</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Who cares if itâ€™s not an official warâ€¦. hundreds of thousands are dead and dying and the democrats wonâ€™t stand to end it.

Half of your party voted for Hillary and she has most of the super delegates.
that tells me that half of your party is ok with somebody who
1. voted for the war.
2. hasnâ€™t set a clear table to end it.
So what does that say about the democrats?
You compromise until you have nothing left.
Comment by Constitutionalist&lt;/em&gt;

The new troll thinks that the Democrats have done nothing to stop the occupation.  Apparently it is forgetting that they have tried at least twice to cut funding but because of the obstructionist Republiscums they were unsuccessful in their endeavor.  I guess this troll thinks that the Democrats can just wave their magic wand and make the Republiscum obstructionists go away.  If only that were true.

This troll also is indicating that the Democrats voted for the so-called &quot;war&quot;.  In fact most Democrats opposed it.  And they have not set a clear timetable to end the occupation because every time they try to do it, the Republiscums either threaten to filibuster or in the case of the one bill that was passed, Bush vetoed it.

I am not happy with the stand the Democrats have taken.  I believe they should put forth a bill ending the occupation and keep sending it back time and time again, allowing the Republiscums to show who they really are.  But, that does not fit within the reality of the political system as it stands today.

To our new troll - Tinker Bell is a mythical figure.  We can&#039;t get what we want just by wishing for it.  With the Republiscums still holding enough seats to block anything the Democrats want to do, there is relatively little they can do until after the 2008 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who cares if itâ€™s not an official warâ€¦. hundreds of thousands are dead and dying and the democrats wonâ€™t stand to end it.</p>
<p>Half of your party voted for Hillary and she has most of the super delegates.<br />
that tells me that half of your party is ok with somebody who<br />
1. voted for the war.<br />
2. hasnâ€™t set a clear table to end it.<br />
So what does that say about the democrats?<br />
You compromise until you have nothing left.<br />
Comment by Constitutionalist</em></p>
<p>The new troll thinks that the Democrats have done nothing to stop the occupation.  Apparently it is forgetting that they have tried at least twice to cut funding but because of the obstructionist Republiscums they were unsuccessful in their endeavor.  I guess this troll thinks that the Democrats can just wave their magic wand and make the Republiscum obstructionists go away.  If only that were true.</p>
<p>This troll also is indicating that the Democrats voted for the so-called &#8220;war&#8221;.  In fact most Democrats opposed it.  And they have not set a clear timetable to end the occupation because every time they try to do it, the Republiscums either threaten to filibuster or in the case of the one bill that was passed, Bush vetoed it.</p>
<p>I am not happy with the stand the Democrats have taken.  I believe they should put forth a bill ending the occupation and keep sending it back time and time again, allowing the Republiscums to show who they really are.  But, that does not fit within the reality of the political system as it stands today.</p>
<p>To our new troll &#8211; Tinker Bell is a mythical figure.  We can&#8217;t get what we want just by wishing for it.  With the Republiscums still holding enough seats to block anything the Democrats want to do, there is relatively little they can do until after the 2008 election.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255852', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bilbobaggins â€” February 6, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
Should Clinton win the nom. there is no good reason why Obama should take VP if it were offered -- her VP will be marginalized because Bill Clinton will be the defacto VP.
Regarding health care -- people shouldn&#039;t think that the plans proposed by the candidates today are the ones that will finally emerge from the fiture Democratic Congress.  Right now, they are setting out their ideas, how they might work, and most importantly, how they can get substantial support from the public as the final plans are drafted.  They are both going to push for universal health care, but at this time, they need to take the first steps.
BTW, I like your choices as potential cabinet secretaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bilbobaggins â€” February 6, 2008 @ 12:57 pm<br />
Should Clinton win the nom. there is no good reason why Obama should take VP if it were offered &#8212; her VP will be marginalized because Bill Clinton will be the defacto VP.<br />
Regarding health care &#8212; people shouldn&#8217;t think that the plans proposed by the candidates today are the ones that will finally emerge from the fiture Democratic Congress.  Right now, they are setting out their ideas, how they might work, and most importantly, how they can get substantial support from the public as the final plans are drafted.  They are both going to push for universal health care, but at this time, they need to take the first steps.<br />
BTW, I like your choices as potential cabinet secretaries.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255846', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
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		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constitutionalist, it seems that the Democratic Party&#039;s idea of compromise is to expect mere tidbits and droppings from the Republican Party while surrendering the core of their aims and goals. Of course they don&#039;t get those droppings so then it turns out that the Republican Party gets their bill albeit missing a few minor details passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitutionalist, it seems that the Democratic Party&#8217;s idea of compromise is to expect mere tidbits and droppings from the Republican Party while surrendering the core of their aims and goals. Of course they don&#8217;t get those droppings so then it turns out that the Republican Party gets their bill albeit missing a few minor details passed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4255831', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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