DeLay: ‘Man Is Not Causing Climate Change’
DeLay: ‘Man Is Not Causing Climate Change’
In an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay railed against Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for acknowledging the problem of global warming, arguing that it is not a true conservative stance.
Matthews asked what the “conservative” position is on climate change. DeLay replied flatly, “Man is not causing climate change.” He added that it would be “arrogance” to suggest otherwise:
Man is not causing climate change. Climate change may be a phenomenon, but there is no science to suggest that man is the cause of climate change. […]
It is arrogance to suggest that man can affect climate change. There’s no science that supports such a notion.
Watch it:
In fact, the Nobel-prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported nearly a year ago that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal,” and that human activity is contributing to this warming. Even President Bush has acknowledged that human activity is contributing to global warming.
Apparently, DeLay considers Nobe-prize-winning scientists no match for the Hammer.
Transcript:
DELAY: Man is not causing climate change. Climate change may be a phenomenon, but ther is no science to suggest that man is the cause of climate change, and therefore you do not have to undermine our economy nor take people’s freedom away on something that science has not proven yet.
MATTHEWS: So that latest report from the Rocky Mountains that said that the snowpack is disappearing out there is what? Even though they said that was the result of what’s going on out there , man-made climate change. You don’t believe in it?
DELAY: Man-made climate change. It is arrogance to suggest that man can affect climate change, that no science that supports such a notion.
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When he says “Man” is not causing climate change, he means “THE man.” (Cheney)
February 7th, 2008 at 7:49 pmDelay is causing climate change with all the hot air he blows daily.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:51 pmWell, Tom DeLay certainly is no man, so obviously he couldn’t have anything to do with it. This may be one of DeLay’s first honest statements!
February 7th, 2008 at 7:53 pmLOOSER!
February 7th, 2008 at 7:54 pm“It’s not a true conservative response”
thats because conservatives are not reality based. Cause you know “reality has a well known liberal bias”-Stephen Colbert.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:56 pmI really can’t stand this guy!. Let me get this straight. This uniformed tool says the world is flat and and Chris Matthew’s doesn’t challenge him.
Geez! Doesn’t Matthew’s have a least some responsibility to challenge blatant absurdities?
Delay vs ME in fight. Anytime anywhere!
February 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pmThe 110th Congress explained
February 7th, 2008 at 7:59 pm.
And the insect exterminator is the expert.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:59 pmDelay deserves no air time - he is a useless POS, a scummy operator, and an undesirable character.
I guess the exterminator did one of those mento’s in the soda bottle experiments that he saw on Utube, and now he fancies himself a scientist.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:00 pmWTF is this greasy little shit still doing on teevee ?
Shouldn’t he be in jail already?
Where in the WORLD does the GHP (Hypocrisy!) get these SLEAZY, LYING, TRAITOROUS scumbags?
It;s like they GROW them that way. Especially Texas (sorry, other Texans, but you KNOW it…).
February 7th, 2008 at 8:00 pmmust be jesus then, right hammer?
February 7th, 2008 at 8:02 pmHe should be making any statements FROM A PRISON CELL.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:08 pmYeah, no science except the well-established spectroscopic properties of CO2.
What a pesticide-huffing moron.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:08 pmgetting tom delay’s “expert” political opinion on a major issue is like getting oj’s take on the super bowl.
why do the networks bother talking to that crook?
February 7th, 2008 at 8:08 pmSomeone needs to ask this idiot how he can possibly think that dumping tons of pollutants into our environment daily can NOT have an adverse affect on our planet.
Also, I bet the thousands of scientists who have studied global warming would be surprised to hear that there is “no science” to show that man is affecting the climate on our planet.
And, finally, we won’t have to worry about the economy of our nation when the earth has become uninhabitable. There will be no economy then, there will only be a lot of people who are struggling to survive.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:09 pmHe’s trying to use the CO2 meme. Unfortunately CO2 is not the only pollutant in this world. I suppose Delay would have us believe that it is also too arrogant of us to claim responsibility for all of the plastic in the Pacific Ocean.
http://www.mindfully.org/ Plastic/ Ocean/ Pacific-Garbage-Patch27oct02.htm
February 7th, 2008 at 8:10 pmDelay and his ilk deny ALL science, because they they are serious sociopathic control freaks. While I’m not an expert on this subject, how could billions of people NOT have an impact on the surrounding environment? Please understand that these are the same kind of people(Delay & other far right extremists) that would start a war with the intention of causing World War 3 so they can meet Jesus. Ponderous. BTW, this is a man that left Washington D.C. so fast that he left a vapor trail because he was caught red-handed money laundering etc. He didn’t stick around to fight it, because the evidence was overwhelming. “Christian values”? Pbbbbt!
February 7th, 2008 at 8:10 pmWhy? Because a single species of animals can’t change the atmosphere?
BS!!!
The free oxygen at the atmosphere is there because there exist living organisms that pruduce it. At the beggining of life at Earth, the blue algae by themeselves tranformed the complex gases at the atmosphere (CO2, CO, chlorhidric acid, sulphuric acid, and metane mainly, produced by volcanic eruptions), liberating the oxygen (O2 molecule) needed for a living in dry earth. Later, the flora mantained the volume of oxygen more or less constant… until the man came to ruin the equilibrium with its massive CO2 producing habits and machines.
But, no wonder a Republican who earned it’s way to Washington killing animals and selling venom sees nothing bad in polluting.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:12 pmAnd the funny thing about it is that there is money to be made finding a way to turn this thing around. Just like there is money to be made finding ways to wean us off of fossil fuels. The countries who see the danger will find the ways, make the money and sit back and laugh at the stupid Americans who were so arrogant.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:13 pmThat man can cause climate change is easy to prove. We know what CO2 does in an atmosphere; we have both the basic physics and we have the case study (Venus). We can know, with good accuracy, how much we have put in, what pre-industrial levels were, what we have now.
That’s enough to tell us man causes warming.
What the research is needed for is to tell us how much it changes and how fast; how various exacerbating and mitigating factors do and how they interact with each other. And even there the consensus is strong and well-evidenced.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:14 pmAnd this lying thug has been right about what in his life?
February 7th, 2008 at 8:16 pmWho gives a flying fig what bug-killer crook “Mr. DDT” DeLay says?
Cheers,
February 7th, 2008 at 8:17 pmwell, that depends on what the (his) definition of “science” is…
wow… he really doesn’t know how ignorant he is…
February 7th, 2008 at 8:18 pmThis from a former a bug exterminator who challenged every law on pesticides that you can swat a stick at.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:18 pmDid anyone truly expect an honest and well thought out answer from the ass-clown who when asked at the 1988 GOP convention why he and vice presidential nominee Dan Quayle did not fight in the Vietnam War boldly and shamelessly stated —
“So many minority youths had volunteered…that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like myself.”
Just saying . . .
February 7th, 2008 at 8:22 pmWe’ll have to research that without Delay!
February 7th, 2008 at 8:24 pmTom Delay would rather see our nation ruled by a dictator by the name of George (the little woodenhead) Bush. Delay is a dangerour, dangerous, delusional man who will say and do anything.
Please keep Delay off the air. He was wrong and he helped facilitate the near takeover of our nation by a group of misguided individuals.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:24 pmAnd on what scientific basis or known studies the so called ‘Hammer’ is basing his statements? None of course.
The hammer however will agree that ‘Family Vlaues’ has something to do with ‘climate change’…!!
February 7th, 2008 at 8:28 pmBut, no wonder a Republican who earned it’s way to Washington killing animals and selling venom sees nothing bad in polluting.
Comment by Evil Spaniard @ 8:12 pm
a very good point…
February 7th, 2008 at 8:31 pmOf course not, if man were causing climate change enough to extinct the human race then this contradicts DeLay’s Christian end times scenario where he goes to heaven after God decides to beat down all us heathens and others DeLay just does not like.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:32 pmI remember an exterminator that once responded to my question about his being exposed to all the chemicals for so many decades? I shouldn’t have, as he didn’t realize he had so many twitches and lesions and discolorations of his eyes and skin.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:32 pmwhen you drink the kind of koolaid and whiskey’s that this texas turnip has, you look like this picture and you don’t remember about all the bodies you buried, medications not mindful thereof, and the obsession of importance.
Hey, I thought this crook was in jail. About as relevant as hearing what OJ or Brittany think about climate change.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:34 pmTom DeLay is nothing more than a Texas-sized pile of HORSESH*T.
Someone should have left that pile in the field years ago.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:34 pmDeLay is such an expert. I have read so many scientific reports by him. He has created his own science. One day he will be hailed as the greatest thinker of all time. NOT.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:35 pmIs it just me, or does he look hammered in that photo?
February 7th, 2008 at 8:40 pmWTF is MSNBC doin’ talking to this guy? Only Faux News is allowed to.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:44 pmDelay is an expert in arrogance, having practiced it for years, arrogance that’s typically in opposition to reality, as so well demonstrated here.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:57 pmDelay is as smart as a pocketful of rocks.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:59 pmIs there a liberal equal to CPAC? There needs to be, and we need to give the media reason to cover our values and agenda instead of this felon’s.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:00 pmIs there a liberal equal to CPAC? There needs to be, and we need to give the media reason to cover our values and agenda instead of this felon’s.
Comment by questioneverything — February 7, 2008 @ 9:00 pm
Liberals are not allowed to voice their opinion. Reich-wingers would have a complete melt-down if there was a LPAC.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:06 pmThat was my thought too, Barfly…
February 7th, 2008 at 9:08 pmDelay the scientist lol
February 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pmTom DeLay, John Bolton, Rick Santorum, George Bush, Jr; these people are relavent, WHY? More common sense could be gleaned from “man-on-the-street interviews - or, this blog. There’s an idea - talk show schedulers could do better by surfing the blogs, and inviting the most outlandish posters to appear on their shows, thereby improving the intelligence of public discourse. Pure genius.
I’m gonna practice up on outrage, to omprove my chances of achieving my fifteen minutes….
February 7th, 2008 at 9:21 pmThank you Tom “I’m Dumber than Shit” DeLay. And why would ANYONE outside of Fox News interview this traitor?
February 7th, 2008 at 9:25 pmDeLay is parsing his words. Man, himself, is not causing it, Co2 is, fossil fuels, cars, planes, orbital cycles, cows etc..but he does admit to the phenom.
He just doesnt think we should do anything about it with his rape the earth, now, for all its worth, screw the future mentality.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pmDeLay is sure as hell one to speak about arrogance.
Sure, Tom, all those vehicles worldwide running up and down our roads, 24/7/365, aren’t having the least bit of effect on our environment.
The engines are not converting cool air into hot air.
The radiators and exhaust systems are certainly not emitting heat into the surrounding air as a vehicle is driven, and after it is shut off.
This has no effect on our environment, either short or long term.
Nah. Couldn’t be happening at all.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pm100% TRUE!!!!
CASE CLOSED!!
GO TOM GO!!
February 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pmboy’s been sniffin’ too much bug juice.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:42 pm100% TRUE!!!!
CASE CLOSED!!
GO TOM GO!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 7, 2008 @ 9:34 pm
into the meth again, eh?
February 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pmUnbelievable! I call Tom Delay an “Ostrich Republican.”
We hold our destiny in our collective hands. The way we build our world from here on out determines our condition - for better or worse.
Denial is convenient and simple, but ultimately very dangerous.
Click into the New American Village blog for a discussion of how political and environmental forces influence how, what, and where we build.
http://newamericanvillage.blogspot.com/
James Polk, Architect and Neighborhood Designer
February 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pmComment by John Kerry — February 7, 2008 @ 9:34 pm
ps - stay away from your sister until it wears off, ok?
February 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pminto the meth again, eh?
Comment by joe cantwell — February 7, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
Naaah, Joe. JK ‘n Tha Bug Man been hangin’ all day snortin’ roach powder.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pmWell, you’d know all about arrogance, you criminal fu(kstick.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmTo me,this is proof that tweety is desperate for ratings. Do us all a favor tweety, resign and go to fox with rest of the scum,and if your lucky,you’ll get to sit next to kkkarl rove and smell his aftershave:’Public Restroom’.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pmDelay: “It is arrogance to suggest that man can affect climate change. There’s no science that supports such a notion.“
What is it with these guys? Do they really think that saying something makes it so?
Ah, well, I say give them plenty of air time. Most Americans have the capacity to think, and crap like this will just further bury the Republican Party. Their reputation as the anti-science party will be even more devastating than their reputation as the anti-middle-class or anti-minority party.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pmTerry Schiavo was talking!
Saddam had mobile bioweapons labs (with canvas sides)!
Jose Padila was working on a dirty bomb!
Jamil Hussein does not exist!
Graeme Frost’s family is rich!
HillaryClinton murdered Vince Foster!
Barack Obaa was educated in a madrassa!
Lie after lie after lie, proven completely false, and they just get up and lie again,
The people don’t believe these liars, but the paidt-for media has them on again and again.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pmThe rest of the world thinks we’re ignotany blustering yahoos. I am sick to death of the wreck they’ve made–and continue to make–of America’s reputation.
Delay was a rat hunter. What the fk does he know about anything about besides his relatives that he loved to kill. A true Repug; ignorant and a lover of killing, except for Terri S.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pmIf anyone deserves to be called a Rats Ass, it is their relative Delay!!!
Comment by pbg — February 7, 2008 @ 10:04 pm
This particular lie is even more audacious than the rest, in my humble opinion. I mean, sure, the science can be disputed (although not very successfully, again in my humble opinion) but to say that there is NO SCIENCE to support man’s impact on the global climate is not just absurd, it’s stupid.
When Bug Man claims that it is “arrogance” to think human activity can alter the planet, I think it’s just on more example of right-wing projection. What is truly arrogant is to say that there is “NO SCIENCE that supports such a notion” as man is affecting the climate.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pmIs this guy still relevant? Give me a break!
February 7th, 2008 at 10:14 pmDelay’s scientific expertise equals that of the 9/11 omission commition and also of those front garden terracota dwarfs!
February 7th, 2008 at 10:19 pmApparently, DeLay considers Nobe-prize-winning scientists no match for the Hammer.
Well, the Hammer DID have extensive experience mixing chemicals, so…that makes him a scientist, doesn’t it?
More like a lab rat who experimented on HIMSELF.
Is it my imagination, or is this guy looking older and more haggard every day? It wasn’t that long ago that he cut such a snazzy figure–in his MUG SHOT. That photo looked like he was posing for a campaign poster…
February 7th, 2008 at 10:22 pmTom, I hate to break this to you, but your droopy eyelid surgery has failed. Also, why aren’t you in jail?
February 7th, 2008 at 10:24 pmThe thing Bugman does best is lying.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:33 pmWhat is it with these guys? Do they really think that saying something makes it so?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 7, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
Unfortunately, yes.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:41 pmWhy isn’t Delay in an orange suit?
February 7th, 2008 at 10:41 pmWhy does the Corporate Media continue to constantly subject us to the idiotic ramblings of idiot boy Neocons who have been wrong about everything year after year after year and discredited Republicans who left office one step ahead of indictments and/or ethics violations (Delay, Rove, Gringrich, etc.)?
I think they are only making themselves more irrelevant and digging their own grave. They are just wasting people’s time with this meaningless, worthless nonsense.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:49 pmI no longer change the channel when I hear this meaningless crap,
I now turn off the tv and turn on my computer for information.
Why television stations and major networks keep inviting Delay to take his opinion…?
February 7th, 2008 at 11:00 pmDelay left the House in disgrace.
Why his opinion is important to us and the media,when he is neither a scientist nor a researcher?.
So, to ask Delay questions about ‘Climate Change’ is a joke.
Television cable networks just filling airtime all day with fluff.
Why is that scumbag DeLay even on there? How is he even qualified to even answer a question like that. The corrupt clown is as far from any “scientist” as you can get.
February 7th, 2008 at 11:03 pmMost scientist would disagree with him. Most liberals would poke him in the eye.
February 7th, 2008 at 11:24 pmSome of us think that it’s arrogance for a non-scientist to pretend he knows more than scientists do.
February 7th, 2008 at 11:25 pmMost scientist would disagree with him. Most liberals would poke him in the eye.
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 7, 2008 @ 11:24 pm
I wouldn’t want to get that close. I’d use a stick. :-D
February 7th, 2008 at 11:31 pmDelay should be asked questions about his buddy lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who is in prison now,and not about Climate Change.
February 7th, 2008 at 11:34 pmZoo, I am not afraid to get dirty. Fists are in order for that scumbag.
February 7th, 2008 at 11:43 pmWOW does he look haggard!! I saw him a few months ago and he looked about 10 years younger than he does in that video. Hitting the bottle pretty hard are ya, Tom? I would be too if I knew I were guilty of most of what he’s being charged with. Don’t worry, Tom, they make an alcoholic beverage in prison with the rinds of fruit mixed with sugar. Maybe that’ll be his nickname in jail: Sugar. “Hey, there goes Sugar”. “C,mon over here, Sugar, and give me some of that sweetness on my cock.” Now that would be justice!
February 7th, 2008 at 11:47 pmWhen the Bugman going to do his time in the pokey? Bugman overdosed on the koolaid from his comments on the climate.
February 7th, 2008 at 11:48 pmHmmm. Lectures about arrogance from Tom “I Am the Federal Government” DeLay. Sheeesh!
February 7th, 2008 at 11:50 pmOne species has wrecked the planet: humans.
After we’ve messed it up to the point that we can’t live in it anymore, the world will go on.
andy, I like your definition of justice :)
February 7th, 2008 at 11:50 pmandy phx:
February 7th, 2008 at 11:52 pmHe’s from Sugar Land, TX.
Maybe you’re onto something.
The secret to stopping global climate change just might be cow shit.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:34 amHot Tub Tom has been exposed to too many pesticides from his bug killing days.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:41 amNo way. Cow shit causes insanity, especially if you snore it. Look what’s crawled out of Texas for proof.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:48 amI know this may not be very adult like of me, but it is a mood thing.
Delay seems to refer to himself here. So, In Delay’s mind he knows he is not a MAN and therefore cannot contribute pollutants to the earth.
You see, Delay is actually correct, only men can do that. parasites are not human..!
February 8th, 2008 at 12:53 amIt’s freaks like this that give all Texans a bad name. I’ve been there it’s not all bad. Austin and Houston are fairly Democratic.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:19 amNo way. Cow shit causes insanity, especially if you snore it. Look what’s crawled out of Texas for proof.
Comment by QUALAR — February 8, 2008 @ 12:48 am
Carefull, don’t be smearing all Texans with one brush.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:24 amNot everyone in Texas is a wimp ass Republican and my people were here before the washitu even landed on these shores.
Wow is he drunk? What rock is this guy living under? Tom Delay is the King of the Luddites. I suppose he thinks the earth is 10,000 years old and flat and the sun rotates around it. Amazing!
February 8th, 2008 at 1:27 amWow. Not a single denier comment on this thread. They must all be attending CPAC.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:11 amI’m as Liberal as the next guy and I can’t stand Tom DeLay or his corrupt cronies, but I’m going to have to play Devil’s Advocate here. Yes, the Earth is warming, and yes CO2 and pollutants are bad and cause cancer. I’m just not convinced, without a doubt, that they are causing the rise in temperature the planet has been experiencing. One theory that makes more sense to me is increased solar activity which would account for the warming that is simulataneously occuring on the other planets in our solar system while the man-made global warming theory does not.
Yes, I want to stop pollution for health and environmental reasons and yes I hate Tom Delay, but I’m not going to jump to conclusions about something when these types of facts aren’t being adequately addressed or considered. Alright, that’s all. I know I’m going to catch all hell for this, but it’s something I wanted to say.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:28 amHere are some links:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/56456.stm
http://www.space.com/ scienceastronomy/ 060504_red_jr.html
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/ news/ 2007/ 02/ 070228-mars-warming.html
February 8th, 2008 at 2:29 amI agree! There is no science that supports climate change. It’s just like there is no science that supports religion. Both depend on blind faith.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:31 amAlthough there are probably a few decent, intelligent people in Texas, they apparently do not exist in sufficient numbers to elect decent, intelligent people to public office.
Many household names of Texans who were arrogant, either ignorant and/or intellectually lazy, warmongers, and destructive to the country quickly come to mind. The names of politicians from Texas who have made a positive difference seem to elude this writer (with the exception of LBJ’s support for the Civil Rights Act of 1965, although he inflicted much damage on the country as well, particularly with his efforts to escalate the occupation of Vietnam).
Side note: Cindy Sheehan wished to ask George W. Bush, with regard to her son who was killed in Iraq, “What was the noble cause?”
Although the incredible sacrifice of those who died in Vietnam should not be forgotten, a similar question could be asked with regard to the United States’ invasion and occupation of that country — “What was the noble cause in Vietnam?”
February 8th, 2008 at 2:40 amThese people will be arguing this as the floods overtake their houses, as they try and peel off clothes in an effort to avoid drowning from the elevated sea levels, as they run for the hills. Honestly, the stupidity is mind-blowing.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:49 amI now turn off the tv and turn on my computer for information.
Comment by flavorino — February 7, 2008 @ 10:49 pm
It is happening around the Globe! Since the FACISTS took the WH in 2000, the media has gone down hill from OJ Simpson to Michael Jackson… Meanwhile, people have been slaughtered in Iraq, but MacCain insists he can go shopping for ruggs and the surge is working! The have been say they are winning since “Mission Acomplished” fiasco day, over 5 years ago! But TV talks about Tom Cruise or what baby food to buy in your local suppermarket.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:57 am#88, you’re simply wrong. Solar activity is measured, and changes in that area are orders of magnitude too small to account for measured warming.
Furthermore, it’s a proven fact that CO2 causes warming; that’s an inherent property of the infra-red spectroscopy of the gas. More CO2 = less heat escapes into space = terrestrial temperature rises until a new equilibrium is reached.
February 8th, 2008 at 6:21 amOne theory that makes more sense to me is increased solar activity which would account for the warming that is simulataneously occuring on the other planets in our solar system while the man-made global warming theory does not.
Comment by The Young Dude — February 8, 2008 @ 2:28 am
And this theory has been disproven by the evidence. Solar activity has not increased significantly in recent decades.
Mars, Pluto, and Jupiter may indeed be warming. They are different planets with their own Milankovitch cycles that are very likely causing changes in their temperature. The Earth has these cycles, too. However, human activity is adding a different dimension to the Earth’s natural climate cycles, with the potential for catastrophic change.
February 8th, 2008 at 7:44 amWere it not so sad, this would be laughable. Of course, one day this clip will be shown to illustrate how ridiculous global warming deniers really were.
Delay clearly has no idea what he’s talking about. He may know about pesticides and killing rodents, but he knows nothing about science and the scientific process. Only someone like Tom “The Bug Man” Delay who has been living under a rock for the past 20 years could actually go on network television, to be seen the world over, and claim that man couldn’t possibly have contributed to global warming.
Note that one of the key phrases he uses is “undermine our economy”. Since he is a “conservative”, he of course is thinking of the here and now and not about tomorrow. His short-sighted thinking is sadly the norm among his ilk.
One more thing… why in the hell does anyone give Tom Delay a single second of air time? He was one of the most corrupt politicians to ever have served in Congress. He spearheaded some of the worst legislation to pass the GOP-controlled Congress. He spewed lies and hatred every single day he served in Congress and has continued since he left. Just what exactly does a “conservative” have to do in order to lose the media spotlight?
February 8th, 2008 at 8:45 amI watched the interview and couldn’t believe what I was seeing/hearing. I think someone needs to expand his reading list…Mr. Delay.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:27 amDelay on MSNBC is as bad as Hillary on Fox. WTF?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:27 amSee for yourself the level of infestation. To think that humans are not affecting the climate and ecology of the earth is not only stupid, it is cowardly.
http://www.nasa.gov/ vision/ earth/ lookingatearth/ NIGHTLIGHTS.html
February 8th, 2008 at 9:29 amWhy is anybody even talking to this guy any more? Why does he get any press?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:44 amDeLay: ‘Man Is Not Causing Climate Change’
A statement, and a man, who would rightly count for nothing unless it is given attention. Congrats.
What did Rush Limbaugh say today ? It’s been a few days since you’ve extended his audience here.
Comment by Kilo
Well that may be true these days……now that we are a nation of Jimmy Jones kool aid drinkers……
Used to be that you could shine a light on ignorance and kinda push it back into the dark. Not so much these days.
We only really get one chance though if we are wrong so it’s kinda like…
If at first you don’t succeed
February 8th, 2008 at 10:14 amskydiving is not for you………..same result.
This is just turn of the last century thinking. At one point there was an idea that you could just dump sewage and industrial byproducts into the lakes and bays in this country. They thought the water was so vast and humans so insignificant that the water would just cleanse all these contaminants out.
Of course, later we discover that bodies of water like the Charles River in Boston, the Duwamish in Seattle, and even all of Chesapeake Bay are grossly polluted. Here in Seattle, there was a major effort through the fifties and sixties to clean up Lake Washington and just recently the lake has been declared safe for swimming again.
This head in the sand thinking is not conservative. It is a willful avoidance of facts which stare us plainly in the face.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:44 amHe is kind of right in a sense– it is not “man” causing climate change. We are too small and insignificant.
It is Industry that we created, and wield that has brought about this global crisis.
And why is he not in jail yet? what is going on with the Abrahmoff business?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:36 amFor all those “man doesn’t affect the environment” blowhards, note the reference to “inducing rain” in the following link:
Olympic Teams Prepare for the Dirty Air in Beijing
LINK
In 2005, Beijing was rated the highest in sulfer dioxide emissions (from coal fired power plants mostly) Worldwide.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:12 pmAnd why is he not in jail yet?
Comment by ADDdaddy
He’s too busy bragging about being indicted in a thread above this one…
February 8th, 2008 at 1:13 pmBesides being unbelievably removed from reality….’The Hammmer’ also appeared to be so…..seems like he was having a real good time..probably chasing down loose values cuties who actually think he is the criminal he is.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:22 pmBesides being unbelievably removed from reality….’The Hammmer’ also appeared to be so…..seems like he was having a real good time..probably chasing down loose values cuties who actually think he is not the criminal he is.
Thought I should correct that but guess it could go either way as far that group is concerned.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pmThe New Religion is Global Warming
The UN finally got what it wanted. The Kyoto Climate Change treaty becomes ‘international law’ this month on Wednesday. The treaty went into full effect with the approval by the Russian Federation, even without the support of the United States. Time will tell if and when the treaty will begin to affect the U.S. economy. What is certain is that truth and reason had no part in the process.
Global warming has become a new religion. No one is supposed to question whether it is a fact. I did and for my trouble I was labeled a “moron,” a “liar;” one who wants to “blow up the world,” and just plain “evil” to name a few from a mass of mail I received.
In particular, my article stated that there is no scientific evidence to support claims of man-made global warming. I pointed out that there is division among scientists and that there is no “consensus” among them.
I also reported that there are scientists who promote political agendas over truth to keep the grants coming in. And I said that the UN’s 1996 report issued by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was edited at the last minute to remove two very important paragraphs that specifically said science showed no clear evidence of man-made climate change. Those were all facts.
Apparently I’m a moron for reporting them because as one letter said, “Everyone knows global warming is real.”
In response to these Luddites, I simply present this: A federal hurricane research scientist named Chris Landsea has resigned from the UN-sponsored climate assessment team because his group’s leader had politicized the process. Landsea said there was little evidence to justify Kevin Trenberth’s assertion in October that global warming was responsible for the strong hurricanes experienced this past year and that “the North Atlantic hurricane Season of 2004 may well be a harbinger of the future.”
Said Landsea in his resignation letter, “It is beyond me why my colleagues would utilize the media to push an unsupported agenda that recent hurricane activity had been due to global warming. My view is that when people identify themselves as being associated with the IPCC and then make pronouncements far outside current scientific understandings that this will harm the credibility of climate change science and will in the longer term diminish our role in public policy.”
Landsea closed his resignation letter by saying, “I personally cannot in good faith contribute to a process that I view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically unsound.”
There you have it. Two kinds of scientists; one standing for true science based on the facts, The other pushing a political agenda that says science be damned, our global religion is at stake.
Global Warming has become a religion that the faithful have vowed to follow no matter what the true facts may show. Global Warming is a theory, nothing more, and large numbers of scientists around the world are beginning to question its validity. There is no consensus of support.
The fact is the Kyoto Protocol will have absolutely no effect on climate change, but the faithful demand that it be implemented anyway, because “we have to do something.” In 1990, Timothy Wirth, who later became Bill Clinton’s Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs said, “We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong we will be doing the right thing…”
Global Warming is nothing more than a euphemism for redistribution of wealth from the rich, development nations to jealous dictatorships who refuse to allow their citizens the right to gain their own wealth through free markets. It’s about political redistribution from strong, independent sovereign nations into the hands of a power-hungry global elite cowering in the United Nations. These are the same cowardly scoundrels who used to try to rule the world through global communism. Today they pretend that the same lies have something to do with protecting the environment.
The truth is there is no man-made global warming. There’s only the scam of an empty global religion designed to condemn human progress and sucker the feeble minded into worldwide human misery. I rest my case. Amen.
February 8th, 2008 at 3:55 pmhttp://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4139
Take a look here, for starters, and educate yourself about how one progress from hypothesis to theory and on to fact. But be forewarned facts are only recognized as such until they run up against a single piece of evidence that disproves them…as Newtonian physics did. Global warming as preached by Gore has been blown out of the water years ago. It is not a fact; in fact it is not even a valid theory at this point.
by Tom DeWeese (February 16, 2005)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p1845.htm
Global Warming Scientific Petition Project-Scientist prove no AGW
Go to jail, Go directly to jail, Do not pass Go, Do Not collect $200.
February 8th, 2008 at 4:33 pmFebruary 08, 2008
Global cooling alarmism ahead?
Thomas Lifson
The debate over global warming theory is turning into a contest between two explanatory models for climate change: human activity or solar activity. Now comes news that solar activity may be declining, signaling that we may (no alarmism here) be entering a period of global cooling. Investor’s Business Daily explains:
Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada’s National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.
Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.
Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.
This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.
IBD puts this into context:
As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth’s climate over time has been the sun.
For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth’s temperature over the last 100 years.
R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada’s Carleton University, says that “CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet’s climate on long, medium and even short time scales.”
Rather, he says, “I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet.”
Patterson, sharing Tapping’s concern, says: “Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth.”
“Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again,” Patterson says. “If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than ‘global warming’ would have had.”
The time horizon here allows potential political feedback in the next two presidential cycles, should actual cooling take place and refute the anthropogenic enthusiasts, the warmist cult, as I call them.
Occam’s Razor suggests that solar activity ought to be a baseline assumption for climate change. In addition to being simple and direct, it has demonstrably driven climate in the past. A few dubious models based on historical statistics of questionable accuracy, pushing a convoluted explanation in which variations in a trace gas (CO2 is 385 parts per million of the atmosphere by volume) drive climate, should be greeted with skepticism until conclusive evidence is in hand.
A new Maunder Minimum would be unpleasant for many. But those still believing in carbon dioxide as a climate driver might begin advocating carbon subsidies and doing penance for buying all those carbon credits.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:35 pmArrogance? More like stupidity to think that 6 and half billion people won’t have any effect.
February 10th, 2008 at 6:54 amRight wing talking points aside, people who try to communicate climate change to the public should think about the motivation behind the line “it is arrogant to think man…”. The way that belief can get in the way of understanding climate change is a subject I have studied for some time more here. Here’s a quick take:
In his words and his tone, he is saying that the climate is far beyond the control of mere people, that it is controlled by other, grand forces. The arrogance of which he speaks is a belief that people can intervene on God’s turf.
Whether that is Delay’s genuine belief or a talking point, we should take note. The very notion that humans can affect the climate runs counter to thousands of years of belief that the sky is the domain of gods. Acceptance of human-induced climate change is a real paradigm shift for many. It is a mistake to assume people that doubt the scientific evidence are motivated only by greed or politics. If those of us communicating climate change to the public fail to address the fact that it can conflict with fundamental beliefs, we’ll fail as communicators.
February 10th, 2008 at 12:33 pmOnly two (2) ways to warm earth are 1) the sun and 2) the largest emitter of co2, volcanoes; Both are natural and are not controllable by humans.
Consider that 97% of co2 is natural on earth and man is responsible for only 3% of all the co2 in the atmosphere.
All of the green measures fully implemented will not change the level of co2. How do I know is that the EU has failed to achieve any reduction of co2 since adoption of Kyoto, in 2005; Total failure.
Educate yourself.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p1845.htm
Global Warming Scientific Petition Project-Scientist prove no AGW
Video and PowerPoint downloadable at bottom of page at above link
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4139
Science of AGW disproved years ago.
The feds are putting a .50 per gallon tax on auto gas under Lieberman McCain, States on west coast are currently legislating a “carbon tax†on all oil products and things made with oil, their yearly tax in Washington state is 2.16 Billion per year, plus a yearly license car tax on the vehicle by engine size, 4 cylinders $200, 6 cylinders $300 and V8 $400 dollars each year. This should get rid of those gas guzzlers.
You think industry is leaving the USA, just wait until this Global Warming HOAX goes into effect. Hugh new tax that will accomplish nothing, except establish a new global imperialism!
February 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm