FBI And Pentagon: We Stand By Our Decision Not To Waterboard
FBI And Pentagon: We Stand By Our Decision Not To Waterboard
After acknowledging for the first time publicly that the CIA waterboarded three prisoners, CIA Director Michael Hayden “left open the option of reinstating” the interrogation tactic in the future.
The FBI and Department and Defense, however, are standing by their position that waterboarding is unnecessary. The Pentagon has banned employees from using the tactic, and the FBI said “its investigators do not use coercive tactics when interviewing terror suspects.”
In a hearing today, Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) asked FBI Director Robert Mueller and Lt. Gen. Michael Maples of the Defense Intelligence Agency why their agencies don’t use coercive interrogations: “Do you never interrogate people who have critical information?” The agency heads responded:
MUELLER: Our protocol is not to use coercive techniques. That is our protocol. We have lived by it. And it is sufficient and appropriate for our mission here in the United States. … We believe in the appropriateness of our techniques to our mission here in the United States.
MAPLES: The Army Field Manual guides our efforts and the efforts of the Armed Forces. … We believe that the approaches that are in the Army Field Manual give us the tools that are necessary for the purpose under which we are conducting interrogations.
Watch it:
The FBI has long warned against such interrogations. In 2004, agents “repeatedly warned” interrogators at Guantanamo Bay that their tactics “were legally risky and also likely to be ineffective.”
The Defense Intelligence Agency, like the CIA, runs intelligence operations around the world. In fact, some “missions have expanded into areas traditionally under the purview of the Central Intelligence Agency.”
In December, the House passed an amendment that extends the current prohibitions in the Army Field Manual against torture to U.S. intelligence agencies and personnel. Later in the hearing, Hayden “guaranteed” that if legislation is passed prohibiting coercive techniques, the CIA will abide by it.
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Perhaps someone can give Mukasey a 1sthand demo, using him as the subject, then he may be able to form an opinion if it’s torture.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:04 pmA branch of this adminstration that actually upholds the law?
How unique.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:04 pmSo some US agencies (DIA~ CIA) do, some (Pentagon?, FBI) don’t.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pmSo it must not be a crime when we do, but it would be a crime so we don’t.
Hmmmm… WTF-Incredulometer wailing at 120 decibels…
http://www.tshirtinsurgency.com
February 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pmFBI And Pentagon: We Stand By Our Decision Not To Waterboard
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WOW !!! How very big of you to obey the law ……………………
February 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pm‘We do not torture’ and it’s safe to let a fox watch over a chicken house.
NSFW: contains taxpayer-funded nudity, sexual acts, and explicit violence
Conduct Unbecoming A Country.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pmWaterboarding is not only torture, but also ineffective.
But then, that’s the whole M.O. of this administration; give all the appearance of doing something, while bungling it at the same time.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pmSeriously, waterboard bush and cheney… give them a 1 hour example of the technique… film it with an interview afterwards…
and if they think its not torture after experiencing it… I’ll agree too, and stop complaining about it.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:15 pmThe only time torture ever works is on “24″.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:18 pmAnd the lying pigs in the White House will continue to say, “But the waterboarding gave up information that saved American lives.”
But when asked just what information was that, the claim “State Secrets”, which is BushSpeak for “Nothing of course, we are lying, again.”
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
February 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pmSo, the upshot is that the U.S. will export interrogation and torture and all the other crap to other countries that are willing to do their bidding at the right price. Let freedom ring.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:20 pmNice one, Frosty.
So… why hasn’t anyone asked the obvious question:
why do the FBI and the Pentagon hate America and want the terrorists to win?
February 7th, 2008 at 3:23 pmIMPEACH MUKASEY NOW.
More importantly, WATERBOARDING IS AGAINST U.S. LAW.
PERIOD.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:25 pmHayden “guaranteed†that if legislation is passed prohibiting coercive techniques, the CIA will abide by it.
Lying under oath is Treasonous. Period.
Board ‘Em!
February 7th, 2008 at 3:26 pmWTF-Incredulometer wailing at 120 decibels…
Comment by RUCerious — February 7, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
Wow, RU, I’m surprised the WTF-Incredulometer is still operational after what it has been put through this past year.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:27 pmTorture gets you good information. And bad information. And complete rubbish. And no way to distinguish between them.
Because this is well know, torture isn’t about information. It’s about giving the torturer the gratification of power.
Seriously, my tax dollars are too dear to be used to fund some sadist’s fetishes. There are BDSM clubs for that.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pmWhy torture when you can get whatever “intelligence” you want from characters like Curveball?
February 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pmOff topic but worthy of notice: The CIA is now offically “trolling blogs, MYSPACE and YouTube. Really.
http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2008/ In_search_for_foreign_intelligence_spies_0207.html
USA Patriot, Southern Man, anything you guys want to come clean about?
February 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pmWTF-Incredulometer wailing at 120 decibels…
Comment by RUCerious — February 7, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
Wow, RU, I’m surprised the WTF-Incredulometer is still operational after what it has been put through this past year.
Comment by VerbalKint — February 7, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
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Mine broke after the Al Qa Qa Facility had TONS of hi grade explosives that could be used for either IEDs or WMDs stolen AFTER the US Army secured the facility and we STILL elected Bush into his second term.
I mean seriously… that story broke like 3 weeks before the election proving Jr. seriously screwed the war up from the beginning.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:37 pmThe administration torture advocates say that water boarding is legal and effective; but, hasn’t been done for nearly 5 years. So, if they haven’t continued water boarding, then aren’t they, by their own admission, not fully their alleged ‘war on terror?’ The bush crime family is letting the terrorists win!
February 7th, 2008 at 3:38 pmGood! Now someone can send Mucky Mukasey the memo so he knows what to say. When do the crimes against humanity trials begin for Bush and Cheney?
February 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pmChuck: Bush Cabal wants lawlessness to prevail. If the war on terror continues indefinitely, the Bush/Cheney coffers since the merge of their war profiteering enterprises will fluorish.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:50 pmHayden “guaranteed†that if legislation is passed prohibiting coercive techniques, the CIA will abide by it.
Hey! Dumbfu(k!
We signed on to the Geneva Conventions!
That’s legislation prohibiting torture/waterboarding!
Wow, he’s slippery.
February 7th, 2008 at 4:06 pmWow, RU, I’m surprised the WTF-Incredulometer is still operational after what it has been put through this past year.
Comment by VerbalKint — February 7, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
I’ve had to replace the re-frammlator twice, but it’s still spinning like a, well, a Romney!
February 7th, 2008 at 4:08 pmTorture gets you good information. And bad information. And complete rubbish. And no way to distinguish between them.
Comment by PeterW — February 7, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
It also got us a significant portion of the findings in the 9/11 Commission report:
http://www.democracynow.org/ 2008/ 2/ 7/ the_9_11_commission_torture_how
February 7th, 2008 at 4:14 pmThe Pentagon is obviously full of shit.
February 7th, 2008 at 4:33 pmDid I read the Mueller quote correctly?
He conditioned the prohibition of waterboarding ” by using “here in the United States”.
That means nothing unless we have detention facilities where coercive tactics can be used here in the United States.
“Yes, ‘n’ how many times can a man turn his head and pretended that he just doesn’t see? “Thanks for just the right words, Bob.
February 7th, 2008 at 4:36 pmCoercive interrogations are no more effective outside the USA (CIA) than they are inside the USA (FBI). It seems to me that it says more about the moral compass of the FBI vs the CIA.
February 7th, 2008 at 5:01 pm“…here in the United States.”
but thar’s a whole nuther big ol’ world out there…
February 7th, 2008 at 7:35 pmSHOW US THE TAPES! SHOW US THE FOOTAGE OF A 757 HITTING THE PENTAGON! TELL US WHAT A E-4B PLANE WAS DOING FLYING OVER THE WH ON 9/11 PRIOR TO THE PENTAGON MISSIL ATTACK!
February 8th, 2008 at 3:01 amI would love to smoke what Grolly bolly is smoking and starting distancing myself from reality too!
February 8th, 2008 at 3:03 amThe Pentagon is obviously full of shit.
Comment by 5th Estate — February 7, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
February 8th, 2008 at 3:04 am…and full of WAR CRIMINALS TOO!
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Q U E S T I O N:
The precedent of waterboarding has been set in the USA to have been defined as a form of TORTURE, a war crime… NO?
If I’m wrong, then what was the Court Martial of the US Serviceman shown to have participated in waterboarding, if not that it was already agreed upon as being illegal?
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February 8th, 2008 at 3:32 am.
Oops…
forgot some links to my [/rant] ;)
Peace.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2006/ 10/ 04/ AR2006100402005.html
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February 8th, 2008 at 3:38 am