ThinkFast: February 8, 2008
ThinkFast: February 8, 2008
The American public “can barely stand the thought of President Bush” anymore. His approval rating is now at just 30 percent, according to a new AP-Ipsos poll, “including an all-time low in his support by Republicans.” Congress’s approval also dropped to 22 percent.
Military authorities at Gitmo have lost a year’s worth of records detailing the confinement of Salim Hamdan, Osama bin Laden’s driver. Hamdan’s lawyers say the records would “support their argument that prolonged isolation and harassment at the Guantanamo prison have mentally impaired him.”
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said in a statement yesterday that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement head Julie Myers “deserved to be confirmed” but added that he is “concerned about the Department’s response to the incident” after the release of controversial photos of Myers.
Yesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
Earlier this year, Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) said that the thought of John McCain as president “sends a cold chill down my spine. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.” After initially supporting Mitt Romney, Cochran changed his tune on McCain yesterday and said he is now supporting him.
While John McCain is superior to Bush on climate change, he is still not the type of leader the world requires. “He is a conservative who happens to be on the only intellectually defensible side of the climate change debate,” writes Joe Romm, “but he is still a conservative, and the vast majority of the solutions to global warming are progressive in nature — they require strong government action, including major federal efforts to spur clean technology.”
In a 354-58 vote, the House yesterday approved legislation “aimed at curtailing rising college costs and limiting student debt.” The bill would also “expand federal Pell Grants to summer-school students and would address conflicts of interest in the student lending industry.” Campus Progress has more on legislation.
Legislation to update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “is headed toward Senate passage early next week” after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) “pushed back key votes.” The telecom immunity measure will also “likely be put off until next week.”
And finally: “The State Department is defeating terrorism one ’strong, engaging’ online video at a time.” The State Department’s Office of Public Diplomacy is “looking for an extra $36 million in 2009,” in order to boost its Video Production Team” and create “strong, engaging web-based video that communicates key U.S. values and counters terrorist ideologies.” Want an example of the office’s work? Watch its “video report” on Obama Girl and the “Hillary 1984″ ad here.
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This story is truly FRIGHTENING. I strongly suggest all my TP friends read it.
The FBI Deputizes Business
Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does-and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government…But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to “shoot to kill†in the event of martial law.
** Several members of InfraGard allegedly said that Martial Law IS coming soon.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/07/6918/
February 8th, 2008 at 9:02 amRep. John Murtha (D-PA) said yesterday that he is “preparing legislation that would give President Bush the war funding he wants this year, but on the condition that troops leave Iraq by the end of the year.â€
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Heavy sigh. Haven’t we been down this road before? What makes anybody think the dance will be performed differently this time?
Of course, maybe the Dems will grow spines and stand up to Bush this time. THAT would be different.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:06 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
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And Mukasey continues to be the good little trained monkey. Have there been ANY questions he has been able to give a straight and forthright answer to?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:08 amMukasey- the highest law enforcement official in the land, remains silent about enforcing the law. FTS! Guillotine this entire #&*#!!&$^@! Right f*(king NOW!
February 8th, 2008 at 9:10 am“After initially supporting Mitt Romney, Cochran changed his tune on McCain yesterday and said he is now supporting him.”
We are going to see a lot of Republicans doing the flippety flop when it comes to McCain. He’s 60% of the way to the nomination (based on pledged delegates so far) and many of his party are accepting that he will be the inevitable nominee. They will support him if they have to hold their noses while doing so — much like I will be doing if Hillary gets the Dem nod.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:10 amBefore the trolls start to say otherwise, breakout of Congressional approval polls show that the Repubs poll 10 points lower than the Dems, and the Dems’ low approval rating comes from the fact that they’re not perceived as opposing Mr. 30% enough.
So, with that in mind, this is a preemptive STFU, trolls.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:11 amIsn’t the Senator Cochran up for re-election this year? If he won his seat in 2002, then 2008 would be 6 years. He must be hoping to ride back McCain’s coattails. That could happen, only McCain’s coattails will take him out of office not re-elect him. There’s a chant in the South and goes like this: “Obama, Obama”. This Democratic movement will be a huge hurdle for Cochran to overcome. Maybe he should retire and get a job with a lobby like the rest of his friends.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:11 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
since he “couldn’t” answer, that means YES he has been instructed not to investigate.
IMPEACH & CONVICT! There is nothing left to debate!
February 8th, 2008 at 9:13 amThe GOPsheeple will now all fall into line an support the man they have been reviling for a decade or so.
Baaa…baa…..baa….
-GSD
February 8th, 2008 at 9:13 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
Same shit, different day. Bush needs liars as AG to protect his inner circle, who are crooks, swindlers and unamerican corporate shills. Does Mufakesy have a pic of Harriet Miers on his mantle? God, that’s a scary thought…Orwell & Miers staring at you every night.
McCain booed by CPAC, but the Cockrans of the world will still treat him like the new Jesus.
Who Would Jesus Bomb?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:16 amThe American public “can barely stand the thought of President Bush†anymore. His approval rating is now at just 30 percent, according to a new AP-Ipsos poll, “including an all-time low in his support by Republicans.†Congress’s approval also dropped to 22 percent.
Here’s a clue, Congress: YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO REIGN IN THIS DESPICABLE PRESIDENT AND HIS CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:17 am“Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) said yesterday that he is “preparing legislation that would give President Bush the war funding he wants this year, but on the condition that troops leave Iraq by the end of the year.—
All do respect Congressman, don’t set yourself up again please. You in the House are cowards when it comes to taking on the 30% President. Why should we believe you will stand your ground now?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:19 amI would say this is getting embarrassing, but we passed that stage years ago.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:20 amthe comedy writes itself these days.
And Bush will (choose one):
February 8th, 2008 at 9:21 am
McWar is a ticking timebomb.
God help us all if he gets in.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:22 amMilitary authorities at Gitmo have lost a year’s worth of records detailing the confinement of Salim Hamdan, Osama bin Laden’s driver.
Funny how the dog eats every sensitive war on terror document.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:24 amMilitary authorities at Gitmo have lost a year’s worth of records detailing the confinement of Salim Hamdan, Osama bin Laden’s driver.
And the dog ate my homework. These people have no shame.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:25 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
Excuse me, but where does Muksey get the right to refuse to answer questions put to him by Congress. Doesn’t he realize that he works for “we the people” and not for Bush. Apparently not. I’m quite sure when he took his oath when it came to the part about “defending the constitution”, he substituted “Bush” for “constitution” in his head.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:27 amCaption contest: “I gots THIS many brain cells…”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:30 amMcBomb will have Delay as Sec/Hom Security!
Bizarro Bush world:
February 8th, 2008 at 9:31 amCommonly found only in comic books, this life long loser has surrounded & is supported by people only found in comic books. You couldn’t even make this shit up! God help us all if McBomb gets into office.
Study: Corn ethanol worse than gasoline
Greenhouse emissions much higher if land use factored in, researchers say
“We should be focusing on our use of biofuels from waste products” such as garbage, which would not result in changes in agricultural land use, Searchinger said in an interview. “And you have to be careful how much you require. Use the right biofuels, but don’t require too much too fast. Right now we’re making almost exclusively the wrong biofuels.”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:31 amMcCain brianwashed by Islamo-fascists phobia will put us in many destructive wars with Middle Eastern countries,and possible Russia or China,which will bring havoc on world economy,something is secondery to McCain thinking when it comes to wars,and he is the man to pull the trigger.
Supported by zealots of the Neo conservatives and their PNAC manifesto, he will be eager and happy to please his masters like Lieberman, Podhoretz,and the rest of war hawks.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:32 amTo these hawks he is a dream came true.
He already told us that :’there will be more wars, my dear friends’.
Caption Contest:
Live long and prosper…oh wait.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:33 amCaption!
“A lot of my critics complain about all the vacations I’ve taken to Crawford. Well, I’ve added up the total number of hours I’ve spent in the White House during my two terms. And that number came to FIVE. Heh heh!”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:33 amCaption:
“Condi, can I go pee now?”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:34 amAfter initially supporting Mitt Romney, Cochran changed his tune on McCain yesterday and said he is now supporting him.
Welcome to the lemming party. They will support anyone as long as they are not a Democrat. He is going to support someone who terrifies him. Nice.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:34 amCaption:
February 8th, 2008 at 9:35 amSee y’all in Paraquay!
Caption:
“Hey Helen! Talk to the hand!”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:35 amCaption:
“If Hillary or Barack are elected, it’ll be a victory for the terrorists. Can I get a high five, people!”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:37 amGive Jefferson a fair trial and if he’s found guilty, send him to prison. He should be treated like every other criminal, dem or repub. Right gigi?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:37 am“but he is still a conservative, and the vast majority of the solutions to global warming are progressive in nature — they require strong government action, including major federal efforts to spur clean technology.â€
This is one reason why I am hoping and praying that Obama is the nominee. I’m fairly sure that Al Gore would endorse Obama and campaign for him pointing out how time is running out on climate change. I’m not so sure he would do the same for Clinton.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:37 amWhat did we miss?
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Russian deputy foreign minister Alexander Losyukov commented that Monday’s test launch of Iran’s “Safir-1 (Explorer-1) raises suspicions over Tehran’s claims of peaceful nuclear intentions and suggested its possible desire to create a nuclear weapon. It was “of course a cause for concern.â€
Comment by goony goo goo — February 8, 2008 @ 9:29 am
Cause for concern? Well, hell, then, let’s follow the tried and true policy of this administration, and bomb the hell out of Iran over “a concern”! What? We can afford to lose another 4000+ brave men and women, can’t we? And our military won’t be stretched paper thin, will it?
Good gawd, when does Obama get elected so the 22%’ers can get back to commanding wargames on X-box???
February 8th, 2008 at 9:37 amCaption: “I fooled you. The 2008 Election was all smoke and mirrors. The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 will now take effect because Darth and I authorized another false flag op (just like we did on 9/11/01. I have cancelled the election and appointed myself Dictator of America. This will be a lot easier”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:38 amCaption:
“Holding hands with the Saudi Prince was the thrill of my life. So much so, that I haven’t washed this hand in 3 weeks.”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:40 am** Several members of InfraGard allegedly said that Martial Law IS coming soon.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda
That is truly terrifying and all too possible. Congress needs to impeach Bush now. If they don’t, there may be no Congress come November.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:40 amWhat did we miss –
How about the official ending of the Bhutto investigation? It’s been “confirmed” it WAS that mysterious sun-roof lever after all that killed her. We’re witness democracy in action here folks.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:41 amAnd Mukasey continues to be the good little trained monkey. Have there been ANY questions he has been able to give a straight and forthright answer to?
Comment by missmolly
No. He has made it abundantly clear that he works for Bush and not for the people. Did we expect anything different?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:41 amComment by DRxJ — February 8, 2008 @ 9:37 am
Indeed. “Cause for concern” surely rises to the level of “a gathering threat.”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:43 am347 days…
February 8th, 2008 at 9:44 amCaption:
“All these years I’ve wanted to put my hand up Cheney’s ass and play puppet, but he insisted from the very beginning that I be the puppet.”
February 8th, 2008 at 9:44 amGigi, do you really want to get into a battle of who is corrupt? really?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:46 amThat is truly terrifying and all too possible. Congress needs to impeach Bush now. If they don’t, there may be no Congress come November.
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 8, 2008 @ 9:40 am
A quick Google search will show you that InfraGard is real and has chapters all across the country.
The name InfraGard needs to enter the public discussion, much as Blackwater.
Then I find this article today:
U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5482
** This article is harder to substantiate, but it suggests that Martial Law may be coming soon.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:46 am30% ?? I want to hear numbers like 10% or 15% approval for this moron. 30% doesn’t seem like such a new number for Bush. Seems that is where he has been for quite awhile.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:47 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
Nah…he didn’t refuse to answer. He answered it by NOT answering it.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:48 am347 days.
Yes.
But just think of all the crimes this bunch can commit in that time.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:49 amOh, and Harriet Miers is STILL the most qualified person in America for the Supreme Court. Bush has yet to take back his statement and declare otherwise.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:49 amTo these hawks he is a dream came true.
He already told us that :’there will be more wars, my dear friends’.
Comment by tarazan
But, he has given the Democrats a perfect campaign ad. It simply reads “another 100 years in Iraq”, vote McCain.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:49 amGeorge W. Bush’s presidency is proof positive that some kind of electorate IQ test i needed before voting begins. You cannot vote until you put the shapes in their corresponding holes. Apparently 30% of America would fail this task.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:51 amComment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — February 8, 2008 @ 9:46 am
Just think…if the Democrats had been able to repeal the Second Amendment and collect everyone’s guns, as the Repubs insist they would, America would be so much easier to take over. Big mistake.
(snark)
February 8th, 2008 at 9:52 amAh yes, Bad Eye reminds me of something. Did anyone hear the apathy in John McCain’s voice when he referred to “assault weapons” yesterday. Apparently he has a temper too. Be interesting to see if his apathy would be quashed if he experienced an assault weapon from the perspective of the target.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:55 amOur resident idiot troll GiGi seems to think that posting articles about a couple of Democrats who are suspected of corruption somehow makes the dozens of Republicans suspected of corruption go away.
Sorry GiGi, it won’t work. Anyone congressperson who is suspected of committing a crime needs to be investigated, prosecuted and if convicted thrown out of Congress.
So tell me why did the Democrats strip Jefferson of all his leadership posts and the Republicans have not done the same with all their people who are under investigation?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:55 amMeanwhile, at the Conservative Political Action Committee, the faithful fight to get in line at the Kool-Aid vat:
“When the president walked on stage, they clapped and chanted “Four more years! Four more years!”
Jeebus.
-GSD
February 8th, 2008 at 9:56 amGeorge W. Bush’s presidency is proof positive that some kind of electorate IQ test i needed before voting begins. You cannot vote until you put the shapes in their corresponding holes. Apparently 30% of America would fail this task.
Comment by robertoroberto
Even more important than an IQ test is a psychological assessment. We have suffered one crazy person in the Whitehouse, we certainly don’t need another in John McCain.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:57 amcelebrity criminal defender Roy Black to represent Colombian cocaine kingpin Fabio Ochoa in 2002…GiGi
GiGi, you mean the same Roy Black that defended Lush Limpballs when he was buying Oxycontin from his housekeeper? That Roy Black?
February 8th, 2008 at 9:58 amYesterday, Bush again put the self interest of himself and his giant telecom criminal co-conspirators above our national security, by threatening to veto the FISA update bill unless we gave them all get out of jail free cards.
And even if Congress were to bend over yet again, he would still probably veto it to demand even more changes and/or defy other major provisions with a signing statement.
TELL YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NO TELECOM IMMUNITY FOR ANYONE
February 8th, 2008 at 9:58 amhttp://www.usalone.com/no_telecom_immunity2.php
Perhaps now we know the source of some of those big Clinton donations from Chinatown.
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_249/policeblotter.html
Comment by goon_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 9:56 am
A good (or goon) example of why this troll has zero credibility. There is nothing about Clinton in that clip. The task of apologist for the Republics is a tough one, requiring dragging up old old news (Jefferson), referencing right-wing blogs and opinions rather than actual news, and outright libel.
Nice work, goon.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:01 am“Yesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.”
Our warm, heart-felt appreciation goes out to Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein for the fine job they’ve done serving our party, the American people, and our Constitution, blech!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:01 amComment by good_golly
Get your own blog.
Nobody gives a shit what you think “we” missed.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:01 amHere’s the latest press statement from Dennis Kucinich against telecom immunity:
The veto threat by the President is just the latest example of the use of fear and intimidation — in the name of “national security” – to secure legislative authority to violate the Constitutional rights and protections of American citizens. I strenuously object to any immunity for telecommunications companies and demand a full accounting of these companies’ involvement to Congress and to the American public. When corporations cooperate with the government to strip people of their Constitutional rights, that is a textbook description of fascism. There must not be any place in America for this type of conduct.
MAKE A KUCINICH CONTRIBUTION TO DEFEND HIS SEAT IN CONGRESS:
Because of the strong stands he has taken on the issues for us, Dennis is under attack by corporate special interests trying to force him out of Congress altogether. But you can help him fight back now.
http://www.usalone.com/fight_back_kucinich2.php
February 8th, 2008 at 10:02 amMeanwhile, at the Conservative Political Action Committee, the faithful fight to get in line at the Kool-Aid vat:
“When the president walked on stage, they clapped and chanted “Four more years! Four more years!â€
Jeebus.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — February 8, 2008 @ 9:56 am
Constitution-haters of America unite!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:02 amPerhaps GiGi would like to be enlightened. I suspect not, but I’ll post the link anyway. Here’s a list of the members of Congress who have been convicted of corruption or are under investigation:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Category:Members_of_Congress_under_investigation
The list contains 5 Democrats and 19 Republicans.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:04 amWho are you more afraid will take over the America, Bush or Cheney? We keep hearing about Bush approval ratings but to be honest i’ve got nothing against the guy. He’s an imbecile who is a showpony for his behind-closed-doors Vice President. I think the approval ratings more accurately represent the Cheney factor.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:05 amWell, since good goony wants to play the “let’s see what crimes your side has done” card (i.e. Jefferson), I now submit the following link for the viewing of all:
The lowest of low scumbag crimes
February 8th, 2008 at 10:06 amBunch of RePUNKlican REICH-wing losers. Those SHEEPle in congress need to grow a spine and show more opposition to GEORGETTE DUMBYA BUSCH !!!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:07 amStudies Warn Biofuel Crops Could Accentuate Global Warming
February 8th, 2008 at 10:07 ameFluxMedia – 1 hour ago
By Dee Chisamera Just one month ago, a study conducted by a team of American researchers concluded that there was nothing more environmental-friendly than the biofuel crops, that could reduce the greenhouse gas emissions by 94% and produce five times …
Studies Say Clearing Land for Biofuels Will Aid Warming Washington Post
Studies Deem Biofuels a Greenhouse Threat New York Times
I find it very telling of the conservatives that they left Bush out to try like they have. It proves that they are nothing more than corporate yes-men focused only on their individuality. They all claim to have been upset with Bush for quite some time now, but not even one of them had the guts to come forward and publically denounce him.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:10 amStudies Warn Biofuel Crops Could Accentuate Global Warming -
eFluxMedia – 1 hour ago
Studies Say Clearing Land for Biofuels Will Aid Warming – Washington Post
Studies Deem Biofuels a Greenhouse Threat – New York Times
Comment by katy — February 8, 2008 @ 10:07 am
Exactly why the fight against climate change cannot be led by the farm lobby.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am^^ “out to dry”
February 8th, 2008 at 10:11 amOkay, good_golly, thanks for standing up for the rule of law. I suppose this means you’re on board with impeachment now, eh? Followed by trial for crimes against humanity before an international tribunal, too?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:11 amThe lowest of low scumbag crimes
Comment by DRxJ
Add that to the list of the 19 Republicans in Congress who have been convicted lately or are under investigation and you have a pretty impressive list.
But idiot trolls like Goon_Golly will ignore the proof. To them two or three corrupt Democrats trumps 20-30 corrupt Republicans.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:12 amComment by katy —
I don’t think that holds true for cellulose. GM (I think) is trying to design a car that runs on cellulosic ethanol. That means anything made of cellulose can be turned into ethanol; wood chips, pallets, christmas trees, packing, anything made of wood.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:13 amI don’t think that holds true for cellulose.
Which is why cellulose is NOT mentioned. Check my post #22 for link.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:14 amSweet, lets chop down some more forests to make fuel!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:16 amCaption contest:
Whoaa! Where’s my turkey??
February 8th, 2008 at 10:18 amSweet, lets chop down some more forests to make fuel!
Comment by Ike_Skelton
Who the hell is suggesting this?
Got straw??
February 8th, 2008 at 10:18 amSweet, lets chop down some more forests to make fuel!
Comment by Ilooklikea_Skelton — February 8, 2008 @ 10:16 am
Sweet, let’s not contribute anything of importance to this thread!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:19 amComment by DieNowForPeace
Well, since the use of cellulose would mean the expansion of “tree farms,” grown specifically for this purpose, perhaps it also initially cause a rise in greenhouse gasses – but I think this would be off-set by all the added oxygen they would produce.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:20 am“Sweet, lets chop down some more forests to make fuel!”
Comment by Ike_Skelton
Nah, better to glow in the dark… Who needs light when we’re all irradiated?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:21 amIke’s just being pissy ’cause I shot him down the other day.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:22 amConservatism:
Because sometimes being wrong just isn’t enough.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:22 amI don’t think that holds true for cellulose. GM (I think) is trying to design a car that runs on cellulosic ethanol. That means anything made of cellulose can be turned into ethanol; wood chips, pallets, christmas trees, packing, anything made of wood.
Comment by barfly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:13 am
Right. The problem is with the corn and sugar ethanol regime pushed by the agrobusiness lobby that’s driving up the price of food and provides no net environmental benefits.
Cellulosic ethanol would be ideal. From what I understand, the difficulty in the technology right now is not on the consumer end – ethanol from cellulose is chemically identical to ethanol from corn or sugar. The difficulty is in producing ethanol at high volume. It’s a slow process of breaking down cellulose into fermentable sugars, then fermentation and distillation. It’s also a very expensive process, $120 per barrel. It’s going to take some engineering to get the costs below the price of oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulosic_ethanol
February 8th, 2008 at 10:24 amWhy use trees for cellulosic ethanol? Why not use quick-growing grasses? Or the chaff, leaves, and stems from crop plants?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:25 amWell, since the use of cellulose would mean the expansion of “tree farms,†grown specifically for this purpose, perhaps it also initially cause a rise in greenhouse gasses – but I think this would be off-set by all the added oxygen they would produce.
Comment by barfly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:20 am
Ideally, there would be no need to create special farms for cellulosic crops. It would seem to make the most sense to use the stalks, leaves, and husks of corn plants and other waste from crops that are already being grown for food. You get two products from one plant.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:27 amProbe: Bhutto Killed by Blast
Washington Post – 1 hour ago
A portrait of the late former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto hangs at the site of her murder following a ceremony marking the end of a 40 day Muslim mourning ritual in Islamabad, Pakistan, Thursday, Feb. 7, 2008.
Bhutto’s Supporters Reject Report by Scotland Yard Wall Street Journal
Scotland Yard: Suicide Bomb Blast Killed Bhutto, Not Bullet Voice of America
i dunno… scotland yard, folks… any agenda there?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:27 am#86, that and corn is an awful crop because agribusiness doesn’t rotate it with nitrogen fixative plants like beans, so it requires vast amounts of toxic fertilizers.
We don’t need to be expanding the industrial growth of corn, we need to be converting to sustainable methods.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:27 amChop down trees?? What’s wrong with you? You must be one of those REICH-wing REPUKLIKANS that come on here to be nothing but a piece of crap TROLLIO. GET A LIFE!!!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:27 am“It’s also a very expensive process, $120 per barrel. It’s going to take some engineering to get the costs below the price of oil.”
Which means as the cost of oil production increases, cellulose approaches cost-effectiveness. $120 a barrel isn’t so out of line, considering the source is renewable.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:27 amIke’s just being pissy ’cause I shot him down the other day.
Comment by barfly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:22 am
Correction, Ike’s just being pissy ’cause that’s all he knows.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:28 amComment by barfly
Nope.
Please read the article in my post, or do your own research.
Think refuse-based cellulose (cellulosic biomass) for ethanol. It’s mostly derived from grass, and construction by-products. There’s not many suggesting “tree farms”.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:28 amBush Rallies Conservatives for Campaign
The Associated Press – 47 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) – Without naming John McCain, President Bush marshaled the conservative wing of the Republican Party on Friday to back the presumed GOP presidential nominee for the upcoming battle against the Democratic Party.
Bush to Signal Support for McCain Washington Post
Without naming him, Bush is trying to rallly conservatives behind … USA Today
that’s kinda funny… “without naming him”…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:29 amthat’s kinda funny… “without naming himâ€â€¦
Comment by katy
That was probably advice from McCain’s camp!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:30 amQ and A: Sharia law explained
BBC News – 47 minutes ago
By Dominic Casciani The Archbishop of Canterbury has come under fire after appearing to back the adoption of some aspects of Sharia law in the UK.
Video: Anglican archbishop backs partial Sharia in UK - 08 Feb 08 AlJazeeraEnglish
UK PM rejects special laws for Muslims CNN International
whaaa??? … fuel on some winger fire with that…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:31 amPlease remind me… when did you ’shoot me down’? And I was being sarcastic, not pissy.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:31 amgood lord…
Palestinians Fire Rockets as Israel Reduces Electricity to Gaza
February 8th, 2008 at 10:32 amVoice of America – 56 minutes ago
By Robert Berger Palestinian militants have stepped up rocket attacks against Israel after a tightening of Israeli sanctions on the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.
Gaza rocket barrage hits Israel BBC News
Israel begins cutting electricity supply to Gaza Reuters
There’s not many suggesting “tree farmsâ€.
Comment by DieNowForPeace
Actually, the article I read two days ago mentioned it as a possibility. But thanks for the paternalistic attitude.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:32 amPlease remind me… when did you ’shoot me down’? And I was being sarcastic, not pissy.
Comment by Ike_Skelton
It’s painfully obvious you only come hear to draw attention to yourself, as in hi-jacking threads until they’re mostly about you, LOSER.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:33 amNow why would Infragard members know of terrorist activities and give that info to infragard?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:34 amWHO and Bloomberg Open Global Antismoking Project
New York Times – 14 hours ago
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr. Tobacco could kill up to a billion people during the 21st century, as cigarette sales soar in poor and middle-income countries even as they drop in wealthier ones, says a report issued Thursday by the World Health Organization.
WHO Unveils Global Effort to Fight Smoking Washington Post
Study warns of billion smoking deaths by 2100 New York Daily News
why not…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:34 am“Please remind me… when did you ’shoot me down’? And I was being sarcastic, not pissy.”
Comment by Ike_Skelton
Your loopy assertion that radioactive tailings don’t leach into surrounding groundwater.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:35 amBut thanks for the paternalistic attitude.
Comment by barfly
You’re very welcome. Anytime.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:35 amNow why would Infragard members know of terrorist activities and give that info to infragard?
Comment by Xisithrus
Hmm, cause they work on Psyops together, from both sides!?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:36 amSince this is an open thread, I’d like to add one positive story:
My brother in law (somewhat right of the political median), a music pastor at a church in Illinois, who has voted the last two presidential elections based upon the abortion issue (and thus voted twice for Bush), has been increasingly excited about Obama. He has attended rallies in St. Louis and Chicago, and continuously sends my wife and I updates regarding his campaign.
It’s awesome to realize there are conservatives out there who are slowly but surely “seeing the light” of the current failed administration.
Of course, his main man is Huckabee ,but I’m working on that :-)
February 8th, 2008 at 10:36 amProve me wrong barfly.
It’s painfully obvious you only come hear to draw attention to yourself, as in hi-jacking threads until they’re mostly about you, LOSER.
Someone else started talking about me, I didn’t start talking about myself. 404 thread hi-jack not found.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:36 am#86, that and corn is an awful crop because agribusiness doesn’t rotate it with nitrogen fixative plants like beans, so it requires vast amounts of toxic fertilizers.
We don’t need to be expanding the industrial growth of corn, we need to be converting to sustainable methods.
Comment by PeterW — February 8, 2008 @ 10:27 am
Toxic fertilizers made from fossil fuels, no less.
I’m trying to find a side-by-side comparison of the energy yield from different ethanol feedstocks, and so far haven’t found one. What I keep seeing is that switchgrass seems to have the best energy-to-lad use ratio.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:37 amGates walks fine line in Europe to seek Afghan aid
Reuters – 1 hour ago
By Andrew Gray VILNIUS, Feb 8 (Reuters) – Sometimes strident, sometimes sympathetic, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates is walking a fine line in trying to win more public support and troops from Europe for NATO’s war in Afghanistan.
NATO Chief Has `Indications’ France May Boost Its Afghan Force Bloomberg
Analysts: NATO, Pakistan Reluctant Allies in US-Led Fight in … Voice of America
FRANCE???!!!! but, but, but… that would be so.. so…
what WOULD it be, QUITTENS???
February 8th, 2008 at 10:37 amComment by Ike_Skelton
You’re doing it again… talking about yourself, causing others to do the same.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:38 amThey all claim to have been upset with Bush for quite some time now, but not even one of them had the guts to come forward and publically denounce him.
Comment by rantingraver — February 8, 2008 @ 10:10 am
I was listening to Tom Hartmann broadcasting live from that silly conservative “movement” conference yesterday – the one that made news for NOT inviting Ann Coulter. I don’t believe I heard ONE “conservative **cough** Tom talked to even mention Bush in passing.
Everyone was AGAINST Bill Clinton (strange how they’re still all working against him…), but that had to do w/ Hillary running. They were still all madly in love w/ “The Gipper”.
BUT… barely a peep about Georgie… seems as though they’re to embarrassed to admit he’s one of their own. Funny, even after a 6 yr period wherein they controlled the Fed Govt completely, they still all talked as thought they had been powerless for yrs and yrs and had this titanic struggle to regain control in front of them. They still see themselves as victims, it seems. Hardly any of them seemed to feel any responsibility for the disaster that the Bush Admin has been for the last 7 yrs.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:38 amI see good_golly is still living in the past.
Today GG TODAY!!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:39 amDozens arrested in mob raids in New York, Italy
Los Angeles Times – 7 hours ago
NEW YORK — American and Italian authorities Thursday swept up dozens of suspects wanted in connection with a transatlantic drug trafficking operation and a string of US Mafia crimes dating to the 1970s.
Reputed mobsters rounded up in US, Italy CNN
Organized-crime busts net a cast of colorful characters San Francisco Chronicle
ooooooow… this could get interesting…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:40 amComment by toasterhead
Good luck. Too many special interests fighting for market niche. Like barfly’s reading that some are suggesting “tree farms”. That’s the agri-lobby at work there, not what anyone familiar with the positive aspects of cellulosic biomass would want.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:40 amI know this isn’t very scientific, but on the occasions when I have filled my tank with 10% ethanol, my engine doesn’t seem to perform as well, and my trip computer has registered a lower MPG.
Well, what would be MORE
February 8th, 2008 at 10:41 amPerhaps bilbo would like to be enlightened that being “under investigationâ€
Comment by good_googily moogily — February 8, 2008 @ 10:33 am
Just curious, did you actually look at the list I provided, or did you purposely ignore?
thanks in advance for your time and effort researching such accusations!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:41 am“Prove me wrong barfly.”
http://www.sea-us.org.au/disc-guide/disc-guide-g.html
G.1. What are the greatest environmental risks from a uranium mine?
The greatest risks to the environment are (1) contamination of ground water and river systems with dissolved radioactive materials; (2) catastrophic failures of tailings containment; (3) the dispersal of radioactive dust, which finds its way into water, plants, animals, fish and humans; (4) releases of radon gas into the air, which will deposit radon daughters on the ground for hundreds of miles around; (5) pollution of surface and ground water by chemical pollutants in tailings, notable heavy metals, acids, ammonia and salts.
That was too easy.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:41 am…scientific would be to research the fact that you are correct.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:41 amWTF? Try again:
110. I know this isn’t very scientific, but on the occasions when I have filled my tank with 10% ethanol, my engine doesn’t seem to perform as well, and my trip computer has registered a lower MPG.
Comment by good_golly
You’re 100% correct.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:43 amLINK
The Ethanol E10 Scam – lower MPG, same price
February 8th, 2008 at 10:44 am66. Perhaps bilbo would like to be enlightened that being “under investigation†by an investigtion happy partisan Congress isn’t quite the same as being under criminal investigation, or being convicted as William Jefferson undoubtedly will be once he stops stalling and delaying his trial.
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:33 am
Thanks for the history lesson, but you forgot the Teapot Dome Scandal of 1923 and the Fisk-Gould Scandal of 1869. Get it right, goon!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:46 am“Like barfly’s reading that some are suggesting “tree farmsâ€. That’s the agri-lobby at work there, not what anyone familiar with the positive aspects of cellulosic biomass would want.”
Comment by DieNowForPeace
Well, f#ck you.
Have you got a brother? F#ck him, too.
I resent your implication that I’m spouting propaganda. Look at the facts: cellulose offers the best option for renewable fuels. Government won’t get in on the act, so who’s going to get the $120 a barrel down to a more economical number?
You?
Better get busy.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:46 amI don’t think that holds true for cellulose. …
Comment by barfly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:13 am
good way to recycle that…
but look closer at that 2nd headline:
Studies Say Clearing Land for Biofuels Will Aid Warming Washington Post
i haven’t read the link…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:47 amOh hell, I thought you were talking about at a nuclear plant. You didn’t say in a mine. Regardless, now, compare that to all contaminants released from a coal plant. GO GO GO!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:47 amThe obvious elephant in the room is . . . why in the HELL do the Dems give these traitors what they want? Sure as shit explains the 22% rating for them
February 8th, 2008 at 10:49 amI resent your implication that I’m spouting propaganda.
Hey now Mr. Pissy pants, haven’t had your bloody mary yet?
If you quote propaganda without stating such, you may as well be a paid lobbyist.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:49 am… and sorry, you can’t fcuk my brother cause I don’t have one.
ARE YOU GAY?????
February 8th, 2008 at 10:50 am“Oh hell, I thought you were talking about at a nuclear plant. You didn’t say in a mine.”
Where did you think the stuff came from?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:51 amThe American public “can barely stand the thought of President Bush†anymore. His approval rating is now at just 30 percent, according to a new AP-Ipsos poll, “including an all-time low in his support by Republicans.†Congress’s approval also dropped to 22 percent.
Who are these 30%? Jeebus…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:51 am“… BTW, I’m not gay, I just like the way it feels.”
February 8th, 2008 at 10:52 am“If you quote propaganda without stating such, you may as well be a paid lobbyist.”
Comment by DieNowForPeace
So, when can we expect the first tankers of “DieNowForPeace Cellulosic Ethanol” to hit the road?
Or is the joke over your head?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:53 amMilitary authorities at Gitmo have lost a year’s worth of records detailing the confinement of Salim Hamdan, Osama bin Laden’s driver. Hamdan’s lawyers say the records would “support their argument that prolonged isolation and harassment at the Guantanamo prison have mentally impaired him.â€
“Lost?” Right….
There’s a records keeper working in Gitmo who needs to be hauled in front of Congress and grilled to within an inch of his/her life.
Oh…wait a minute. The lap dog Congress….nevermind.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:54 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:54 am
Reported for spamming.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:55 amIf you quote propaganda without stating such, you may as well be a paid lobbyist.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — February 8, 2008 @ 10:49 am
I don’t think he was quoting propaganda – it is a legitimate concern. It’s happening right now in Indonesia – European companies are clear-cutting old-growth rain forest to grow massive date-palm farms for biofuels. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that that sort of thing could happen here if there’s not good regulation and coordination of the emerging biofuel industry.
This needs to be part of a much larger dialogue on U.S. agricultural policy and natural resources management. Commercial agriculture is, I believe, second only to transportation in carbon and other pollution emissions, not to mention all the other environmental problems that arise from the current monocultures we’re growing.
Let’s not get into a pissing match over semantics – this is a really complex issue and it’s going to take progressives working together to fix it.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:56 am#114, no shit Sherlock, the energy density of ethanol is lower than octane.
But cellulosic ethanol has the potential to be nearly CO2-neutral, so suck it up and pull into the gas station a little more frequently.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:56 amC’mon, DieNowForPeace; if business isn’t allowed to sully your vision of cellulosic ethanol production, which high-priests of politically correct thought will you annoint?
February 8th, 2008 at 10:56 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.
So, that would be a “yes?”
February 8th, 2008 at 10:56 amYesterday, Attorney General Michael Muksey refused to answer the question of whether or not he had been instructed by the President not to enforce the subpoenas of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten
A government of morons, not laws.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:58 amLast year, Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) said that the thought of John McCain as president “sends a cold chill down my spine. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.†After initially supporting Mitt Romney, Cochran changed his tune on McCain yesterday and said he is now supporting him.
Whore of the Month…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:58 amwhich high-priests of politically correct thought will you annoint?
Comment by barfly
Myself, of course!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:58 amWorld Press Photo Winner
February 8th, 2008 at 10:59 am…legislation “aimed at curtailing rising college costs and limiting student debt.†The bill would also “expand federal Pell Grants to summer-school students and would address conflicts of interest in the student lending industry. 
Bush veto in 4, 3, 2, 1…
February 8th, 2008 at 10:59 amHow is this Infragard bullsh*t NOT the merger of state and corporate power???
Righty is wearing that fascist label like a badge of honor now.
Police-state living – that’s the Freedom righty talks about. The new American dream.
What a mess, what a gang of hysterical ninnies, what a disgrace to the Constitution.
February 8th, 2008 at 10:59 amAnd the link…
February 8th, 2008 at 11:00 amIn a 354-58 vote, the House yesterday approved legislation “aimed at curtailing rising college costs and limiting student debt.†The bill would also “expand federal Pell Grants to summer-school students and would address conflicts of interest in the student lending industry.â€
There’s one itching for Bush’s veto pen.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:00 amThere is an attorney-client privilege when the Attorney General is giving legal advice to the President.
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Especially when the legal advice is to do something illegal…
February 8th, 2008 at 11:00 amWel, Infragard has a web site and that number of members includes FBI personnel. You can apply for membership with Infragard, or Agrogard.
http://infragard.thehandcoders.com/UserFiles/File/Contact%20Us/unified_application0104.pdf
Well, it seems to me that if FBI is member of Infragard they can probably shoot people during martial law. Martial law would destroy our economy so I am not buying into that fear factor.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:01 amYou have GOT to be kidding.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:01 am142. There is an attorney-client privilege when the Attorney General is giving legal advice to the President.
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Dumb Fcuk, the Attorney General is supposed to be the PEOPLE’S attorney, not the president’s attorney.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:02 amMyself, of course!
Comment by DieNowForPeace
Just so I get my windows washed when I fill up with DieNowForPeace C.E. I always liked that…
February 8th, 2008 at 11:02 amIdeally, there would be no need to create special farms for cellulosic crops. It would seem to make the most sense to use the stalks, leaves, and husks of corn plants and other waste from crops that are already being grown for food. You get two products from one plant.
Comment by toasterhead — February 8, 2008 @ 10:27 am
This country seems to be ignoring one of the best renewable sources of bio-fuel and one of the easiest to grow.
Hemp
February 8th, 2008 at 11:05 amWell, since the use of cellulose would mean the expansion of “tree farms,†grown specifically for this purpose, perhaps it also initially cause a rise in greenhouse gasses – but I think this would be off-set by all the added oxygen they would produce.
Comment by barfly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:20 am
I once read an argument that stated that you’d only be releasing carbon dioxide stored naturally in plants (absorbed from the air as the plants grew), thus there would be no net increase of the gas in the atmosphere.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:06 amActually, I’m hoping that Biodiesel will be a winner.
But my idea is even better.
America is fat, overweight (see Michael Moore, Rush Limp, etc.)
Americans get liposuction. Surgeons dispose of unwanted fat.
I propose to collect and re-process all the unwanted fat into heating oil and bio-fuel.
That way, big fat dumb America can continue eating at McCorporate Deathburger and help solve the energy crisis! It’s a win-win!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:08 amComment by toasterhead — February 8, 2008 @ 10:24 am
Next generation ethanol company Coskata on Wednesday announced an agreement with ICM Inc. to design and construct a commercial ethanol plant using Coskata’s biological fermentation technology.
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Bill Roe, president and CEO of Coskata said, “Coskata and ICM will speed the commercialization of a process that will convert biomass into advanced biofuels from a number of renewable materials, at a production cost of less than $1 a gallon.â€
Link.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:09 amWorld Press Photo Winner
Comment by Juan C. — February 8, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Thanks for the link, Juan. That’s a devastating picture.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:09 amThere is an attorney-client privilege when the Attorney General is giving legal advice to the President.
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:59 am
The AG is the enforcer of the nations laws, not Bush’s personal attorney, you f-king moron.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:10 amHemp
Comment by Wayne
Just so long as they leave the smokable stuff alone!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:11 amAt the risk of empowering trolls, (gigi) here’s a link to a current republican tied up in kiddie porn.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/How_well_did_Florida_Gov._know_0207.html
What is it about republicans and perversion?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:11 amZoo.
Hi.
:)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:11 amVote for the guy that worries you and send chills down your spine
Vote McCain in ‘o8
February 8th, 2008 at 11:12 am“President Bush marshaled the conservative wing of the Republican Party on Friday to back the presumed GOP presidential nominee for the upcoming battle against the Democratic Party.”
Isn’t this a little bit like getting your child care center endorsed by Michael Jackson?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:13 am#159 Americans get liposuction. Surgeons dispose of unwanted fat.
Hey, now. That’ll raise the price of top-quality soap!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:13 am164 – they just go together, like a reese’s peanut butter cup of sickness.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:14 amSo, that would be a “yes?â€
Comment by Zooey — February 8, 2008 @ 10:56 am
Aye, it would.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:14 amHi, Juan! :)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:14 amThe Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel assists the Attorney General in his function as legal advisor to the President and all the executive branch agencies. The Office drafts legal opinions of the Attorney General.
So where is the draft of Mukaseys legal opinions?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:15 amThat way, big fat dumb America can continue eating at McCorporate Deathburger and help solve the energy crisis! It’s a win-win!
Comment by DieNowForPeace — February 8, 2008 @ 11:08 am
The biggest source would be the fat from Republican heads though.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:16 amThe AG is the enforcer of the nations laws, not Bush’s personal attorney, you f-king moron.
Comment by Wayne — February 8, 2008 @ 11:10 am
Thanks for the back up, Wayne! :)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:16 amHey, now. That’ll raise the price of top-quality soap!
Comment by PeterW
Well, that would help all those little hippie industrialists who make the stuff down in Austin!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:16 amI’m serious about re-using human waste-fat!
Why not???
February 8th, 2008 at 11:17 amRe-Elect the culture of corruption ‘08
Want more debt?
Want more wars?
Want less jobs?
Want a three trillion dollar budget?
Want more inflation?
Want amnesty for illegals?
Vote McCain ‘08
February 8th, 2008 at 11:18 amI’m serious about re-using human waste-fat!
Sorry, but I cant see using a bar of soap made with people [McDonalds, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut] fat =P
February 8th, 2008 at 11:20 am“Hemp”
Comment by Wayne
Actually quite smart, considering the fact that the mid-west is still saturated with the stuff, from after WW2. The farmers would love the chance to get rid of it – and at a tidy profit.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:21 amThe American public “can barely stand the thought of President Bushâ€
I know it must be heartwrenching ……. It know it was with me when Blair was in power
February 8th, 2008 at 11:22 am#175, I was thinking more along the lines of the funding and materials source for project mayhem.
Oh right, first rule of project mayhem is…
February 8th, 2008 at 11:25 amCaption:
“-I know the answer!
-Mr. President, you asked the question…”
February 8th, 2008 at 11:26 amSorry, but I cant see using a bar of soap made with people [McDonalds, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut] fat =P
Comment by Xisithrus
But you could sell brand names like:
Limbaugh, Oprah, Ted Kennedy, etc.
It would be fun, like baseball trading card collecting.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:27 amSo where is the draft of Mukaseys legal opinions?
Comment by Xisithrus — February 8, 2008 @ 11:15 am
February 8th, 2008 at 11:27 amIn the belly of the very same dog that eats every sensitive war on terror document………..
re 179:
http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals
February 8th, 2008 at 11:28 amA former aide to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney who also played a leadership role in Iowa’s College Republicans was arrested by Des Moines-area police earlier in the week on outstanding warrants related to his status as a convicted sex offender.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:29 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
Seriously ……….What in the hell is wrong with you ?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:29 amBrown County GOP Chairman Donald Fleischman has resigned his post
February 8th, 2008 at 11:30 amFleischman, 37, is free after posting a $20,000 bond on September 28
The boy was found by police in Fleischman’s home on two occasions in late 2006 while being sought as a runaway from Ethan House, a home for at-risk youth, he says he stayed with Fleischman at his house and a cabin, where he was provided with alcohol and cannabis, and regularly fondled.
But you could sell brand names like:
Limbaugh.
I can see it now. Dirigible of Drivel Dog Shampoo. Heh.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:32 amBrown County? Ewwww…
February 8th, 2008 at 11:33 amActually quite smart, considering the fact that the mid-west is still saturated with the stuff, from after WW2. The farmers would love the chance to get rid of it – and at a tidy profit.
Comment by barfly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
Every part of the plant can be converted to oil (seeds) or ethanol (the rest of the plant, even the leaves, sorry smokers =), and it grows like a weed.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:37 am#164 – Don’t forget this one!
“Ex-Romney aide, College Republican head, busted on sex offender charges.
A former aide to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney who also played a leadership role in Iowa’s College Republicans was arrested by Des Moines-area police earlier in the week on outstanding warrants related to his status as a convicted sex offender.
Matthew Joseph Elliott, aged 26, and identified in numerous accounts as Matt Elliott, was arrested on Jan. 21 for outstanding warrants relating to his registered sex offender status, according to the Polk County government website. The Iowa registry of sex offenders also shows that he was convicted of exploiting a minor and given a “low” risk assessment.”
February 8th, 2008 at 11:37 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ExRomney_aide_College_Republican_head_busted_0125.html
friend of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:39 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Wisconsin_GOP_chair_faces_charges_in_1014.html
friend of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:40 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14132485/detail.html
friend of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:40 amvia C&L blog roundup:
Democracy Now! The 9/11 Commission and Torture: How information gained through waterboarding and harsh interrogations form a major part of the Commission’s report.
uh. oh.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:42 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=62840
friend of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:42 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,57158
friend of yours gg?
(this republican perv really needs to go on a diet, eh?)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:44 amyou go joe!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:46 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/Joseph_Monteleone.htm
friend of yours gg?
(found guilty. must be the republican perv gene, eh?)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:47 amyou go joe!
Comment by Bobwurst — February 8, 2008 @ 11:46 am
the list is endless…
February 8th, 2008 at 11:47 amQUIT SPAMMING JOE!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:48 amComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/our-thing/25902/
friend of yours gg?
(he speaks fondly of you gg, eh?)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:49 amQUIT SPAMMING JOE!!!
Comment by Repunklicans — February 8, 2008 @ 11:48 am
quit trolling repunklicans!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:51 amI’m not trolling! You’re spamming!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:54 amYou’re only accusing me of trolling because I took you to task for spamming!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 11:54 amYou’re only accusing me of trolling because I took you to task for spamming!!!
Comment by Repunklicans — February 8, 2008 @ 11:54 am
so…?
check this out:
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/Patrick_Lee_McGuire.htm
friend of yours gg?
(kinda looks like roger ailes, eh?)
February 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am56. I listened to that speach on POTUS. The chant of “4 more years†was in response to the topic of making the Bush Tax Cuts for 160 million Americans permanent.
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 10:02 am
How do you support permanent tax cuts with chants of “4 more years”?
Have I mentioned that you are an idiot?
February 8th, 2008 at 11:58 amHave I mentioned that you are an idiot?
Comment by Bad Eye — February 8, 2008 @ 11:58 am
gg’s not an idiot. gg’s just perverted.
there’s a difference.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:00 pmRepbulikans: you got spam on my troll!
Joe: you got troll on my spam!
And thats how greasy pieces were invented!
February 8th, 2008 at 12:03 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/Tom_Adams2.htm
friend of yours gg?
(hmmm, will your name be on tom’s mailing list gg?)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm“Mukasey- the highest law enforcement official in the land, remains silent about enforcing the law. FTS! Guillotine this entire #&*#!!&$^@! Right f*(king NOW!”
Comment by Uncle Ho — February 8, 2008 @ 9:10 am
Amen to that!
Totally off topic here, but I just got another fundraising request from Barbara Boxer, (I get them all the time via e-mail from Her as well as Harry Reid, the DSCC, Carvile and others as I’m sure most of you do, also?)
Here is what I’m doing from now on and I would like to encourage those of you who get similar requests to do the same. I get their contact info from their website and send them am e-mail back telling them that until they stand up to this administration and hold them accountable for all of the laws it has broken they can expect no more money from me! Why would I help them to get more people elected that will continue to cave to this administration? Start doing the right thing or not another dime!
Thanks,
February 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm-R
I’m sorry folks, I thought that a couple of posts about republican crooks and perverts would shame gigi into going away, but I forgot the first “rool” of trolling: never get into a pissing contest with a dick.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/exclusive_the_s.html
friend of yours gg?
(hero of the republican party, eh?)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm“Of course, maybe the Dems will grow spines and stand up to Bush this time. THAT would be different.”
Comment by missmolly — February 8, 2008 @ 9:06 am
True! see previous post #216 ;)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pmQ: How many retarded trolls does it take to stink up a thread?
A: the same number it takes to make a disgrace of the Presidency.
Hendler, you’re a joke. The bad kind. Get a bus ticket to cpac, and find yourself a Righty sugar-daddy to pretend not to be gay with.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pmI’m sorry folks, I thought that a couple of posts about republican crooks and perverts would shame gigi into going away, but I forgot the first “rool†of trolling: never get into a pissing contest with a dick.
Comment by Bobwurst — February 8, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
sorry bob, like i said it’s a endless list…
and i think they’re all friends of gg’s.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pmHendler, you’re a joke. The bad kind. Get a bus ticket to cpac, and find yourself a Righty sugar-daddy to pretend not to be gay with.
Comment by tombaker — February 8, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
ahhh yes, senator tapper!
friend of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 12:12 pmWhat is this? Dueling perverts?
Republicans win this game every time…
February 8th, 2008 at 12:13 pm“Here’s a clue, Congress: YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO REIGN IN THIS DESPICABLE PRESIDENT AND HIS CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION.”
Comment by Fritz — February 8, 2008 @ 9:17 am
Let’s help them grow a spine and do just that… No more support from us until they do their job! ;)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:13 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 11:21 am
http://www.komotv.com/news/4795006.html
friend of yours gg?
(don’t these republican pervs have any shame gg?)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:15 pmShort List of Republican Perverts:
“Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
“Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
“Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
“Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
“Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
“Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
“Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
“Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
“Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor. ”
http://hackenbush.org/hackenblog/blogives/00002689.htm
For longer list, go here: http://progressivegoldbeta.blogspot.com/2006/08/no-childs-behind-left.html
And here: http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
“Party of Family Values” indeed!
February 8th, 2008 at 12:16 pmFour More Years??
I coulda sworn they were chanting
FOUR MORE WARS!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 12:17 pmI wonder if Representatives need a raise? Why else would a Republican ask for money to perform oral sex on an undercover policeman?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2007/07/bob-allen-arres.html
“Republican Rep. Bob Allen of Merritt Island, whose district includes a large swath of east Orange County, was arrested for soliciting a male undercover police officer for sex in a Titusville park restroom.
Allen was considered to be acting suspicious by police as he entered and exited the men’s room three times, according to a Titusville Police report. Moments later, he approached the plainclothes officer and offered to perform oral sex for $20, police said.
Allen faces second degree misdemeanor charges. A seven-year House veteran, the term-limited Allen had been considered a likely Senate candidate next year. He also had been named a co-chairman last spring of Arizona Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign team in Florida.
Police said they realized Allen was a public figure after the arrest.”
February 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pm#227
hmmm, gonna remember this one the next time you troll about “innocent until proven guilty” gg.
in the meantime:
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Brent.Schepp.sexual.2.332881.html
friend of yours gg?
(this repub really needs help)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:20 pm“Party of Family Values†indeed!
Comment by Democrat Soldier — February 8, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
all friends of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 12:21 pmgg?
gg…?
February 8th, 2008 at 12:22 pmomg, if gg isn’t here then where is she and what is she doing???
February 8th, 2008 at 12:22 pmjoe; about gigi, you DON”T want to know.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:25 pmjoe; hint-does ‘fluffer’ bring anything to mind?
February 8th, 2008 at 12:25 pmRadRight; It’s because the Dems have NO balls, I will vote Communist.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pmComment by Wayne
I understand – but can you imagine the beneficial aspects of cellulosic ethanol? It means that just as we now have seperate bins for aluminum and plastic, we can also recycle all the wood that currently ends up in landfills. Christmas trees, pallets, broken furniture, constuction scraps, building-demolition scraps, all the paper that goes to landfills could instead be turned into fuel.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:30 pmjoe; hint-does ‘fluffer’ bring anything to mind?
Comment by Uncle Ho — February 8, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
“fluffers” turn people on. maybe she’s a “reverse fluffer”.
works in republican perv ward at a local mental hospital.
eh?
February 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:31 pm
oooh that hurt.
in the meantime:
http://crimemagazine.com/ted_bundy.htm
friend of yours gg?
(check out this tid bit: “He [Bundy] was so mainstream that the Washington State Republican Party hired him…”)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:37 pmWhen’s half-time in this “dueling perverts” contest?
I need to go to the can.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:40 pmOkay, enough with the tit for tat posts of criminals. Let’s make one think perfectly clear, there are bad apples associated with both parties. No doubt. My post, which linked convicted pedophiles from the Republican party, was to show the hypocrisy of those that speak of “morals and integrities”. Yet, good goony wants to battle, and completely disgards any posts or links of the opposite. In effect, she chooses to ignore what she is dishing out. Sad, actually.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:41 pmAnd it all started because she brings up Jefferson, who, as far as I know, no one here has ever defended, in fact, if (and when) he is found guilty, all feel he should be punished. Yet for some reason, certain trolls of the right want to disregard the rules of law (waterboarding included).
Yes, it seems they strive for a hierarchy of being. In a sense, they feel laws are below them, only for the peasants. And this, my friends, is what you get when you follow the examples of the current administration.
It’s time to STOP the crimes. It’s time to CHARGE the criminals. It’s time to BRING JUSTICE to those who feel they are above the law.
(okay, off my soap box. Have a wonderful day)
Comment by DRxJ — February 8, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
good post.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:43 pmpoor ol’ gg’s just felony-stupid – there’s no one alive and not-retarded who doesn’t know how much more icky and criminal republican’ts are.
just making noise like an obnoxious child, like most righty sickies do.
i’d be irritated if it wasn’t so funny.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:44 pmSenator CANTWELL aid arrested for attempting to sexually exploit a minor.
Friend of yours Joe CANTWELL? At least now we know where you got the inspiration for your name — pervert.
Comment by mood_moogy — February 8, 2008 @ 12:31 pm
actually, one more thing, then I’m done.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:45 pmCantwell had nothing, NOTHING, to do with this crime. Yet you associate Cantwell with perversion.
Grasping for straws is unbecoming of you, fluffer!
hookers are A-OK – just ask Vitter and Louisiana Republican’ts –
find something that matters to waste our time with, gg – ya hapless git
February 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pmComment by DRxJ — February 8, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
she is down to straws isn’t she?
in the meantime:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/Lou_Beres.htm
friend of yours gg?
(a repub and a christian coalition leader!)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pmI’m flaggin GG – enough of this drivel.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pmeven the leaves, sorry smokers =), and it grows like a weed.
Comment by Wayne
Actually, leaves are harsh.
It’s the buds we crave, which are useless (too gummy) for hemp use.
:}
February 8th, 2008 at 12:52 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
Now you’ve resorted to identifying someone who admits to whom and what they are , and isn’t even an elected official ; are you retarded ?
Could you be any more desperate to try and foolishly smear Dems ?
Hey jackass , your stupid little posts on Dems doesn’t wipe away the shit stain that is the Chimpy presidency , nor does it exonerate the garbage GOP party or any Repig politician.
Go do something useful now ; like soaping your colon with Drain-O
February 8th, 2008 at 12:54 pm“Brown County GOP Chairman Donald Fleischman has resigned his post, says a spokesperson, after being accused of enticement and fondling of an underage boy, reports the Green Bay Press-Gazette Saturday.
Fleischman, 37, is free after posting a $20,000 bond on September 28. “My client is innocent of the charges,” says attorney Jeff Jazgar, who “declined to discuss specifics.” ”
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Wisconsin_GOP_chair_faces_charges_in_1014.html
February 8th, 2008 at 12:54 pm“DETROIT — A U.S. Justice Department official has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a minor.
John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, was arraigned in U.S. District Court in Detroit Monday afternoon.
An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police.”
Atchison was an appointment of the Bush Administration.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14132485/detail.html
February 8th, 2008 at 12:56 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
thanks for the reminder gg!
http://www.americablog.com/2007/03/gay-marine-prostituteporn-star-feted-by.html
friend of yours gg?
(it’s your old buddy matt sanchez gg. check out pic of him and ann coulter at the cpac convention. bet he got a lot of business there!)
February 8th, 2008 at 12:56 pm“A former South Dakota lawmaker is accused of molesting his own foster children and legislative pages.
Ted Klaudt, 49, a Republican rancher from Walker, faces a long list of charges: eight counts of rape, two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, two counts of witness tampering, sexual contact with a person under 16, and stalking.
Court documents mention five possible victims. Three were foster children between the ages of 15 and 19 who lived with Klaudt’s family. One is a cousin of one of those girls, and the fifth is a friend of Klaudt’s daughter.”
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,57158
February 8th, 2008 at 12:58 pmbuh-bye, righty spunkbucket.
have a nice day.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:59 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
February 8th, 2008 at 12:59 pmThat ‘joke’ certainly is appropriate , seeing as the genius in the Oval Office makes everyone believe that Socrates and Plato have both been re-born and fused/ merged into 1 person ……………..
Gigi:
How many republicans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
2, but I’ll be damned if I can figure out how they get in there.
How many republicans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
February 8th, 2008 at 1:02 pmIt’s not dark! Why do you hate America?
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
good thing where not listing funny republicans. i don’t know any, do you gg?
but the repub pervs just keep on comin’:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/Bobby_Stumbo.htm
friend of yours gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 1:02 pmI can’t tell who I’m sicker of – the Prince and his Puppeteers, or the slack-jawed mouth-breathers who still support the ignoble and primitive conservative agenda.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:04 pmTo which the butcher replied, “Are you kidding! Do you have any idea how many Democrats you have to kill to get a ounce of brains?!â€
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
I suspect this is a namejacking. The REAL good_golly will post news items that show Democrats in a negative light. He will respond to every progressive point with a conservative one. He will consistently hammer away at every alleged sin committed by the Clinton administration while ignoring all the transgressions committed by the current one.
But this is the first time I have seen GG resort to posting a tired old joke that could easily be flipped around by substituting the word “Republicans” for “Democrats”.
If this is really you, GG — you must be having a really off day. I expect more from you than this.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:04 pmNice list GG. Still, it doesn’t quite compare to the much longer Republican Hall of Fame:
“Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.”
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
February 8th, 2008 at 1:05 pmthanks, goober_gomer, for giving me another opportunity to flag yer anti-american *ss.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:05 pmFriends of yours Joe?
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
1975, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1988… pretty recent stuff gg.
lol!
February 8th, 2008 at 1:08 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — February 8, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
that is a hell of a list…
gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 1:08 pmgg, maybe another “joke” would go well here.
eh?
February 8th, 2008 at 1:10 pmOlympic Teams Prepare for the Dirty Air in Beijing
LINK
In 2005, Beijing was rated the highest in sulfer dioxide emissions (from coal fired power plants mostly) Worldwide.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:10 pm276…and stupid.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:15 pm#267 – “Don’t sit around posting every proven and unproven allegation against Republicans and try to paint all Republicans as being criminals and perverts, while ignoring the transgressions of Democrats.” Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
Makes one wonder why you seem to be ignoring the equally long list of Republican criminals and perverts.
I’ve never tried to paint the Democrats as a bastion of values or perfection. It’s always been the failing of Republicans that they never forget a misdeed by the Democrats, and never remember a misdeed by their own.
Sen. Craig. Need I say more?
February 8th, 2008 at 1:19 pmDon’t sit around posting every proven and unproven allegation against Republicans and try to paint all Republicans as being criminals and perverts, while ignoring the transgressions of Democrats. For when that happens,……. “I’ll be back.†…. just not today.
Good_googily moogily
Yet fluffer face here posted every proven and uproven allegation against Democrats and tried to paint all Democrats as being criminals and perverts, while ignoring the transgressions of Republicans. But when that happens, I’m sure she’ll find something else to whore!
February 8th, 2008 at 1:20 pmSEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii)
(the man you smeared, gg. lost his arm while fighting for his country during ww-2. i shouldn’t be surprised. repubs love to smear war heros.)
more:
Inouye was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the son of Issei Japanese American immigrants, Kame Imanaga and Hyotaro Inouye.[1] He grew up in the Bingham Tract, a Chinese-American enclave within the predominantly Japanese-American community of Mo’ili’ili in Honolulu, and was at the Pearl Harbor attack as a medical volunteer.[2] In 1943, when the Army dropped its ban on Japanese-Americans serving in the Army, Inouye curtailed his premedical studies and enlisted in the Army.[2] He was assigned to the Nisei 442nd Regimental Combat Team, which became the most highly-decorated unit in the history of the U.S. Army. During the World War II campaign in Europe he received the Bronze Star and also the Distinguished Service Cross, which was later upgraded to the Medal of Honor.
sometimes you really disgust me gg.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:20 pmI could go on ad infinitum…
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
no you can’t.
you’ve run out.
and you’re running out.
buh, bye.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:22 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
more smears gg? no “innocent until proven guilty”? remember when you wrote that?
i thought you might want to take a moment to apologize to sen. inouye and his family.
silly me.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:33 pmgg also believes water fluoridation is a communist plot, and that Barbara Streisand is an evil genius hell-bent on world domination.
Righties make ordinary conspiracy theorists look sane.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:34 pmComment by tombaker — February 8, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
but to smear a war hero, a man who overcame prejudice and bigotry to fight for his country, well it makes decent people sick to their stomach. i feel ashamed for people like gg. they degrade america and americans.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pmI didn’t even start on Bill Clinton’s sex crimes against Juanita Broaddrick.
Comment by good_gawd I’ve got nothing — February 8, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
yes, a woman who has recanted her story multiple times. Not very reliable, but I do think you for playing the “Bu, bu, bu, buh, but Clinton…” card!
February 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pmTypical. Sad, but typical
senator inouye’s citation:
“Second Lieutenant Daniel K. Inouye distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism in action on 21 April 1945, in the vicinity of San Terenzo, Italy. While attacking a defended ridge guarding an important road junction, Second Lieutenant Inouye skillfully directed his platoon through a hail of automatic weapon and small arms fire, in a swift enveloping movement that resulted in the capture of an artillery and mortar post and brought his men to within 40 yards of the hostile force. Emplaced in bunkers and rock formations, the enemy halted the advance with crossfire from three machine guns. With complete disregard for his personal safety, Second Lieutenant Inouye crawled up the treacherous slope to within five yards of the nearest machine gun and hurled two grenades, destroying the emplacement. Before the enemy could retaliate, he stood up and neutralized a second machine gun nest. Although wounded by a sniper’s bullet, he continued to engage other hostile positions at close range until an exploding grenade shattered his right arm. Despite the intense pain, he refused evacuation and continued to direct his platoon until enemy resistance was broken and his men were again deployed in defensive positions. In the attack, 25 enemy soldiers were killed and eight others captured. By his gallant, aggressive tactics and by his indomitable leadership, Second Lieutenant Inouye enabled his platoon to advance through formidable resistance, and was instrumental in the capture of the ridge. Second Lieutenant Inouye’s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and reflect great credit on him, his unit, and the United States Army.”
i hope your conscience (if you have one) bothers you gg.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pmRighties have no conscience – it’s the #1 prerequisite.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmComment by DRxJ — February 8, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
gg uses a typical repub tactic. resort to smears. declare a draw. come back to smear another day.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pmComment by tombaker — February 8, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
you’re right tom. but i’m not letting her go on this one. a hero such as sen. inouye deserves better from all of us.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pmgg: here’s a more recent repub – “DeLay: I can’t run for President because I’m indicted.”
February 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pmNote on picture:
Chymp needs to learn how to do Vulcan welcome hand signal better.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm#282 – “I didn’t even start on Bill Clinton’s sex crimes against Juanita Broaddrick.” Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Why not talk about Pres. Bush paying for an abortion?
http://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159
(Let’s not complain about the source for this info. You’re the one who started referencing “freeper” sites, well known anti-anything-Democratic sources.)
February 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pmSix Shot Dead at City Council Meeting
Remind me again who it is that we are supposed to be afraid of?
Oh yeah…terrorists.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:14 pmYeah Juan, Katy, Ralph, et al. I see now why we need to allow the trolls to have their say…293 posts and in the middle of it was a little bit about renuable energy and the guys were fighting amongst thierselves over that…….thanks to you guys who like to play whack a troll for allowing this to happen…..you bear the responsibility.
for all of you who can’t see the obvios……it’s right over your head…..it’s plentiful….it’s free and the techology is advancing very quickly…
we went to the moon in 10 years. Don’t tell me we can’t solve our energy problems using solar in 5 if we decide to do it…….
February 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Oh no…let’s do talk about the Jones affair. This from a woman who became an overnight celebrity and celebrated by getting a new hair style, a nose job, and a new pair of boobs to show off in Playboy magazine.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:18 pmgg, thought you were leaving?
but no, you’re back to smear again.
have you no conscience?
February 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
you have run out, haven’t you?
any more smears? these are old.
eh?
:)
February 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:16 pm
What’s your point? 99% of the politicians in Washington are self-serving and conniving.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pmgood work good_moogily.
Here’s more:
Juanita Broaddrick is an American former nursing home administrator from Arkansas. She alleged in 1998 that United States President Bill Clinton had raped her two decades earlier. Clinton’s attorney denied the allegations on his client’s behalf.
The previous year, Broaddrick had filed a sworn affadavit with Paula Jones’ lawyers denying that Clinton had ever assaulted her: “During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. … These allegations are untrue ….”[1]
In November 1998, Broaddrick contradicted her sworn statement in an interview with “Dateline NBC”.[2] The interview, broadcast in February 1999, centered around Broaddrick’s accusation that Bill Clinton had raped her on April 25, 1978 during his first campaign for the governorship of the U.S. state of Arkansas, at a time when Clinton was that state’s Attorney General. In the interview, she declared that Clinton suddenly “turned me around and started kissing me, and that was a real shock. I first pushed him away. I just told him ‘no.’… He tries to kiss me again. He starts biting on my lip… And then he forced me down on the bed. I just was very frightened. I tried to get away from him. I told him ‘no.’… He wouldn’t listen to me.” In an interview for the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Broaddrick claimed that Clinton told her not to worry about pregnancy, because childhood mumps had left him sterile.[3] The alleged incident occurred two years before Chelsea Clinton was born.
She recanted her earlier sworn statement when interviewed by the FBI about the Jones case; the FBI found her account inconclusive, and the affidavit denying the allegations remains her only sworn testimony
February 8th, 2008 at 2:21 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
America in the Bush era: Abuse, intimidation, and smears.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pmAnd while I am at it, let’s also talk about Lewinsky, who after some instances of flirting between the two, made the first move on Clinton by raising her dress to show off the straps of her thong.
It’s all in the Starr report.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pmMilitary authorities at Gitmo have lost a year’s worth of records detailing the confinement of Salim Hamdan, Osama bin Laden’s driver. Hamdan’s lawyers say the records would “support their argument that prolonged isolation and harassment at the Guantanamo prison have mentally impaired him.â€
we need the resident trolls advice on what to do about this very serious problem…….we torture…..
we also need the resident trolls advice on how to live in Amerika after this project reaches completion.
One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to “shoot to kill†in the event of martial law.
** Several members of InfraGard allegedly said that Martial Law IS coming soon.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/07/6918/
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda
so lets just keep discussing irellivent shit with the trolls shall we…..ok.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pmComment by Bad Eye — February 8, 2008 @ 2:22 pm
gg just can’t get out from under her smear of sen. inouye, can she?
it’ll live with her for the rest of her life.
good.
btw, notice how she wrote:
“I could go on ad infinitum, but will close it out here. Have a good weekend, and try hard not to get arrested or you may be the subject of Monday’s postings.”
but here it is not less than an hour later and she’s back?
our gg’s frustrated a bit.
eh?
February 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pmAttorney General becomes useless and corrupt when he forgets that he represents the public.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pmsince we don’t want to be called names like……..you’re just like the repubs
we don’t want to exclude them from our discussions, do we? We need their input in case we don’t fully understand the problem…..
I don’t yet fully understand why excluding trolls and conservatives from our discussion makes us just like them…….excuse me but that just sounds like something a troll would say.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:31 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
hey gg, how was your “weekend”?
February 8th, 2008 at 2:33 pmForgot my security card to get out of the parking deck, so I brought some files back up to the office. Leaving soon.
Comment by good_goony — February 8, 2008 @ 2:37 pm
Now, I suppose you’re a lawyer out in San Diego with 4 kids, 1 deceased.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:38 pmhmmmm, where have I heard that before?????
Comment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
here gg, see if you can work up some sympathy for a real victim.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/05/earlyshow/main3577585.shtml
btw, when you smeared sen. inouye i was reminded of the words of robert welch when he confronted sen. joseph mccarthy. i’ve reprinted them here for you:
“You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”
live with what you’ve done gg.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:43 pm316……..don’t care…
could have been a good thread about energy……started good but you took care of thatt….
February 8th, 2008 at 3:03 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
back again from your weekend, gg?
btw, you’re the one who keeps referring to senator mccain, not us.
smearing sen. inouye is just something you’re going have to live gg. lie to us if you must but, as the bard wrote, “to thine own self be true”.
February 8th, 2008 at 3:05 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
ps – leave your files, don’t forget your keys and take your parking pass.
yw.
February 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pmHey GG!
Why not talk about Pres. Bush paying for an abortion?
http://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159
(Let’s not complain about the source for this info. You’re the one who started referencing “freeper†sites, well known anti-anything-Democratic sources.)
Or do Republican Abortions = no news to you?
Why are you all about sliming Democratic politicians while you seem to turn a blind eye to the Republican ones?
February 8th, 2008 at 3:16 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — February 8, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
sorry soldier, gg’s gone home for the weekend.
right, gg?
February 8th, 2008 at 3:18 pmhow many times does clownpants need to be flagged before we can be rid of him???????????????
February 8th, 2008 at 3:59 pmComment by good_golly — February 8, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
Too bad the only sworn statement by brodderick denies the allegations.
February 8th, 2008 at 4:06 pmToo bad the only sworn statement by brodderick denies the allegations.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — February 8, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
lefty you’ve been around long enough to know that the truth doesn’t matter to gg.
lie, cheat and smear, these are her tactics.
February 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pm