Brown-Waite digs ‘foreign citizens’ hole deeper.
Brown-Waite digs ‘foreign citizens’ hole deeper.
In op-ed yesterday, Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL) refused to apologize again for referring to Puerto Ricans and Guamanians as “foreign citizens” while also misstating more facts about their citizenship:
“In my original statement on the stimulus package I used the same word that the IRS uses to describe income earned in Puerto Rico…foreign.” — Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite [Orlando Sentinel, 2/10/08]
VERSUS
“The term ‘foreign country’ does not include U.S. possessions such as Puerto Rico, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, the U.S. Virgin Islands, or American Samoa.” — Foreign Earned Income Exclusion – Requirements [IRS.gov]
UPDATE: In fairness to Rep. Brown-Waite, commenter good_golly notes that other sections of the tax code do include Puerto Rico and Guam under the term “foreign country.”
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Eh. She has an “R” after her name, which actually stands for “Retarded.”
February 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pmYou know, when you’ve dug yourself a hole and want to get out of it, the FIRST thing you have to do is to Quit Digging!
February 11th, 2008 at 2:32 pmR could also stand for Repulsive, Rabid, Rectal, and things republican.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pmThee is no such thing as a “Guamanian.” From what I understand, the consider this term offensive, preferring “Chamorro.”
Y’all should probably check this out and issue a correction and/or apology, otherwise, you look like a bunch of culturally insensitive redneck Republicans. This is the second time you’ve used this term in as many days, and it’s the second time I’ve tried to let you know.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:35 pm.
Well, that(R) sure doesn’t stand for Reasoning… NO?
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February 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pmMost white Floridians see anyone but white as ‘foreign born’, particularly the (R) genre.
I believe if we secede Florida back to Cuba we’d still have time to get Canada back…
February 11th, 2008 at 2:39 pmAnnie please… don’t insult the retarded ;o)
February 11th, 2008 at 2:40 pmThee is no such thing as a “Guamanian.†From what I understand, the consider this term offensive, preferring “Chamorro.â€
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 11, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
Where have you seen that the term is offensive? Not all people in Guam are Chamorro – there are also significant Filipino, Caucasian, and East Asian populations.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:44 pmWe’ll know she’s in trouble when Fox posts her party affilation as (D).
February 11th, 2008 at 2:46 pmIf you keep drawing from the Stupid Well, pretty soon you’re bound to fall into it.
- You can quote me on that.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:46 pmWell, to be fair to the good Rep., you can see why she made her mistake. I mean, the quote from the IRS contains the wrods “Puerto Rico” and “foreign” in the same sentence.
You can’t really expect her to read the entire sentence and decipher what the hell the IRS is actually saying, can you???
Sheesh.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:48 pmGBW and GWB both have reading comprehension issues.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:50 pmConsidering the Insular Territories may very well determine who our next President will be, I suggest Ms. Brown-whatver look a little bit deeper into the status of Puerto Ricans, Virgin Islanders, Guam residents, American Samoans et al.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:52 pmInstead of compounding her error, Ginny could point out that citizens of Puerto Rico and Guam do not pay federal INCOME taxes, which the rebates are for. In P.R., only those employed by either the U.S. government or do business directly with federal entities pay fed. income taxes. They do, however, pay FICA taxes. All taxes, including fed. income taxes in Guam never goes to the U.S. Treasury, but stays in Guam and goes into their general operating funds. Thus…including citizens of P.R. and Guam in the (Federal Income) tax rebate makes no sense. But rather than pointing out the simple reality, she chose to inflame the situation by using the word “foreign.” Truly stupid.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:53 pmThee is no such thing as a “Guamanian.†From what I understand, the consider this term offensive, preferring “Chamorro.â€
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 11, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
In using the term “Guamanian,” I merely based it off of the Merriam-Webster dictionary, which included “Guamanian” as an adjective or noun variation on the root noun “Guam.”
Though the Chamorros are the indigenous population of the island and make up the largest share of the population, they are not the only residents of the island whom Rep. Brown-Waite referred to as “foreign citizens.” If I were to have used of the term Chamorro exclusively, it would not have encompassed everyone who is a resident or citizen of Guam in the context of her comments.
But Marcus, if you have a source that could explain how “Guamanian” is offensive, I would appreciate it.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:04 pmGiGi pulls an IRS statute that she THINKS says what she wants it to say, but in fact talks about all qualified taxes paid to U.S. possessions.
It says nothing about the residents of those territories being considered “foreign citizens” or their income being “foreign income” and in fact the quote that TP posted addresses that issue quite succinctly.
Too bad for Gigi. It was almost a nice try for Gigi.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:14 pmGood job ralph, gigi thinks she’s smart, it would be sad if she wasn’t such a right wing tool.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:21 pmNot to mention that GG needs to go to college.
Had GG passed basic English Lit, it would have realized that it violated two rules of basic sourcing. First, when given two contradicting sources, the primary source — that is the source that generated the fact the writer is trying to reference — always has priority over a secondary source — such as a site that is referencing a primary source. Second, dates matter. GG posts an article referencing a 2001 date, when Think Progress referenced current tax law.
Sorry, GG, TP has no retraction to post. You, on the other hand…
February 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pmDig faster GinGin, you’re only about halfway down to southeastern China so far…
February 11th, 2008 at 3:25 pmNice one, Jeremy.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:25 pmAnd gigi, since when are tax provisions people? In gigiLand, where the piss soaked reside in blissful ignorance?
February 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmThanks, Ralph, but I suspect that this will be a never-ending battle. Their goal is to disrupt communication between the Progressives and the independents and moderate Republicans. Had I not pointed out that GG had to dig for an outdated article, then it could have pointed to this as evidence that the ‘loony left’ doesn’t care about facts. Sad thing is that people need to have their information pre-digested and laid out JUST right, and Trolls like GG know this….that’s what they count on.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pmTP notes “im fairness to gg”, to show that gg is a lunatic that will fall for any crapola that she can find to deflect her lies. In fairness to gg, Brown-Waite is a moron, like gg.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pmDig faster GinGin, you’re only about halfway down to southeastern China so far…
Comment by RUCerious — February 11, 2008 @ 3:25 pm
The Indian Ocean, actually. A hole dug straight down from the continental United States directly through the core would emerge somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean somewhere. The antipode of southeastern China is actually northern Argentina.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pmSo let’s see.
According to gigi, there are foreign citizens. Then those of us in the Continental US must be mainland citizens. Or resident citizens.
Or continental citizens, but what about Hawaiians, would they be islander citizens? And Alaskans be North Western non affiliated, but still North American continental citizens??
February 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pmthanks for the clarification on where GinGingavitis’s hole would come out, toaster. I was looking at a globe, but didn’t actually drill through it!
February 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pmOr continental citizens, but what about Hawaiians, would they be islander citizens? And Alaskans be North Western non affiliated, but still North American continental citizens??
Comment by RUCerious — February 11, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
I prefer the term “Freak Staters”
February 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pmthanks for the clarification on where GinGingavitis’s hole would come out, toaster. I was looking at a globe, but didn’t actually drill through it!
Comment by RUCerious — February 11, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
Thank you for giving me an excuse to use the word “antipode.” :)
February 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pmIs that the opposite of a propode?
February 11th, 2008 at 4:00 pmAnnie please… don’t insult the retarded ;o)
Comment by hil_1 — February 11, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
Hil, you’re correct. My sincerest apologies to the retarded.
Let’s just say that “R” stands for Repulsive, shall we…? ;o)
February 11th, 2008 at 4:10 pmOH NO! TP HAS VALIDATED A TROLL!
UPDATE: In fairness to Rep. Brown-Waite, commenter good_golly notes that other sections of the tax code do include Puerto Rico and Guam under the term “foreign country.â€
AAAAAAARRRRGH!
oh ok… have a cookie… and BEHAVE…
[when my boy was 3, he answered me, "i am bein' hayve, mom."] :-)
February 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pmI prefer the term “Freak Statersâ€
Comment by toasterhead — February 11, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
I got no problem with freaks from any state coming here just get those damn “Free Staters” out of here (NH).
February 11th, 2008 at 4:51 pm*sigh* Boy it doesn’t help when Think Progress rewards bad behavior. But it’s their blog, they can do what they want…proper sourcing and verification by the side.
They just validated GG, and now, GG’s Bull$#!+ will spread across the threads.
February 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pmThey just validated GG, and now, GG’s Bull$#!+ will spread across the threads.
Comment by Jeremy in Denver — February 11, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
Of course, one effect will be that Gigi can’t claim anymore that TP ignores other views.
What am I saying? If that argument works for her position, she’ll make it. Of course she will. Gigi’s a troll. Trolls have no scruples. They don’t care about demonstrable fact.
Never mind. Forget what i said.
February 11th, 2008 at 5:43 pmWell done, Good_Golly….
And well-done, ThinkProgress.
This is not the first time ThinkProgress has acknowledged an error or incomplete statement pointed out to them by a conservative poster:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/08/fox-news-edits-ron-paul-out-of-ap-story/
Nice job, ThinkProgress.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:08 pmNice job, ThinkProgress.
Comment by Exley — February 11, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
And of course gg is still wrong, and TP was wrong to acknowledge it, but you keep sucking up, exley, y8ou’re very good at it.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:47 pm