McCain: ‘Anyone Who Worries About How Long We’re In Iraq Does Not Understand The Military’
McCain: ‘Anyone Who Worries About How Long We’re In Iraq Does Not Understand The Military’
Speaking to reporters in Richmond, VA last night, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) attacked “anyone” who points out that he is “fine” with keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 or more years. “Anyone who worries about how long we’re in Iraq does not understand the military and does not understand war,” said McCain.
He then added that it is “really almost insulting to one’s intelligence” to question “how long we’re in Iraq” because he believes the current “strategy” is “succeeding.” Watch it:
By dismissing as naïve those concerned with how long the U.S. military is mired in Iraq, McCain is claiming that top officials in the Pentagon don’t understand “the military” or “war” as well as he does. In a recent GOP presidential debate, McCain argued, “I’m the expert” on Iraq.
Top military brass, such as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Adm. Mike Mullen and Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey, have worried in the past year that “a protracted deployment of U.S. troops”in Iraq would not be a wise move for the military:
- In October 2007, Casey said that “it’s going to take us three or four years and a substantial amount of resources to put” the Army “back in balance” and that time frame depends on when “the conflict end[s].”
- In July 2007, Mullen testified that without political and economic progress in Iraq, “no amount of troops and no amount of time will make much of a difference” and that “a protracted deployment of U.S. troops to Iraq…risks further emboldening Iranian hegemonic ambitions.”
By McCain’s logic, both the Army Chief of Staff and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff don’t “understand the military” as well as he does.
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February 12th, 2008 at 3:53 pmOh good. We need another President who knows better than everyone else……………..
February 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pm144 Iraq Parliment members voted for the U.S. to set a timetable to leave. So now bush is finalizing a “principal” for a permanent presence in Iraq. A treaty would have to be ratified by the Senate. So bush just calls it a different name. Anything to keep America money pouring in and protecting oil interests.
February 12th, 2008 at 3:56 pmMcCain is only slightly less stupid and arrogant than GDumbya. Somehow, that doesn’t inspire much confidence where I am concerned.
February 12th, 2008 at 3:56 pmSo, even after growing up in a military family, and spending 9 years in Special Forces, I do not know anything about the military?
Must be true if McCain said so, right?
**bangs head on keyboard **
February 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pmHow incredibly insulting. I fought in one more war against Iraq than McCain did, and served 6 years as an Marine infantryman – but apparently I don’t understand “the military” or “war”.
February 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pmMcJowls; As a veteran, I DO understand the military AND war. They both suck- get OUT of this quagmire ASAP, not extend it you senile dipshit.
February 12th, 2008 at 3:59 pmThis must be the “belittling” part~
February 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pmMcCain is a sad, sad shadow of the man he was. I wonder what changed him, tired of fighting the tide of corrupt politics ?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pmI understand that the military, with enormous support and sacrifice on the part of the American public, defeated 3 industrialized fascist powers spread all around the globe in just over 4 years.
Tell me, Senator Alzheimer, what I’m missing about WWII.
If a Righty ever spoke the truth, it’s when they campaigned against McCain and called him crazy. That old s.o.b. is clearly losing his mind.
I do hope he keeps talking about a century of commitment in Iraq all the way to the General Election. Talk about your political suicide writ large. Hoooo-weeee!
February 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pmWell, my friends, looks like McCain is morphing into Bush before our very eyes. Knows it all, condemns his critics – or even those who are thinking through the issue – and is making decisions without acknowledging the facts. Mission accomplished and hoo-rah!
“The Decider II” – trying to play this fall at a White House near you.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:03 pmOn March 13-16th Iraq Vets Against the War will be in Washington, telling their view of the war. They are 700 members strong across 49 states. I wonder how much attention the media will give them. We need to hear from the boots on the ground, instead of the weekend visitors.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:05 pmPlease allow me to be snarky for a minute and make a small correction to yer post, Tired…
It reads better as “The Deciderer, Part Do-h”…
February 12th, 2008 at 4:06 pmGuess I’m gonna have to post McCains thoughts on staying in Lebanon [again], guess he didnt understand the military then either.
What changed on how the military operates between now and then Mr Maverick McCain?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:06 pmThis counts as “insulting veterans and the troops” in my book – since he’s dismissing the informed opinion of every vet who favors withdrawal.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pm“Anyone who worries about how long we’re in Iraq does not understand the military and does not understand war,†said McCain.
And anyone who says that, Johnny-boy, does not understand voters and elections.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:09 pm“My friends” you don’t understand McCain. This is just another element in the generational struggle that this election will resolve once and for all. After two early boomer presidents, are we really even going to consider a man born in FDR’s first term?
Keep talkin’ Johnny, yer all ammo and and target. Four more Wars!
When is the temper tantrum coming?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:09 pmIts called nation building John, and its something you politicians say you wont do then do anyway.
Saudi is buidling a solar city in what we spend on Iraq in a month.
Oil prices have not been lower, the freedom operation did not pay for itself, that oil is costing more than its worth!!!
February 12th, 2008 at 4:10 pmI guess these guys don’t know what they’re talking about either…
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20070923-9999-1n23generals.html
Generals opposing Iraq war break with military tradition
By Mark Sauer
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
September 23, 2007
The generals acted independently, coming in their own ways to the agonizing decision to defy military tradition and publicly criticize the Bush administration over its conduct of the war in Iraq. What might be called The Revolt of the Generals has rarely happened in the nation’s history.
In op-ed pieces, interviews and TV ads, more than 20 retired U.S. generals have broken ranks with the culture of salute and keep it in the family. Instead, they are criticizing the commander in chief and other top civilian leaders who led the nation into what the generals believe is a misbegotten and tragic war.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pmAnyone who supports a war of choice doesn’t understand how to live as a civilized human being.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pmHey John Kerry go listen to the Iraq Vets Against War on March 13-16th in Washington, see what they have to say, the ones that have actually been on the ground, not just weekend rug buyers.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:30 pmWell said Willy.
JK, why do you stand staunchly behind Petraeus but ignore the generals who disagree with the current military operations?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pmGin – 4:30 – We aren’t getting shot at in Japan nor Germany, don’t know about Korea. Those countries WANT us there, 70% Iraqis want us out, 144 Iraq Parliment members want us out. Do you think maybe they want their country back now that we have turned it to dust.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pmI’ll trust the TWENTY THREE who had the gall to disagree w/ the Deciderer….
February 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pmJapan surrendered in 1945, we officially ended the occupation 7 years later in 1952 and still have a large military presence there. Same thing in Europe, not to mention Korea. Comment by Gin — February 12, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
Thats the thing, McCain doesnt want to end the occupation.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pmWe decimated Japan. We fire bombed them for months prior to dropping two nuclear weapons on cities that were obliterated. We completely broke the will of the Japanese. Japan attacked us and the United States of America responded. Iraq never attacked us, we never entered into Iraq with any coherent plan and we never had a clue on what to do after Sadam was defeated.
Gin, there are no similarities with WWII occupations and our current situation. A better analogy would be to look at the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pmSay Gin, why wasnt Bush Sr, or Cheney, Scowcroft interested in staying in Iraq for 100 years?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pmI’m sure you now agree with what General Petraeus has said and will say, correct???????????
Yeah sure!!!
Comment by John Kerry
Patreous is a shill and a water carrier for the criminal enterprise known as the Bush administration. Patreous is not a ’soldier’ – he is a businessman who happens to wear a shiny ‘bush approved’ suit.
Anyone picked by Bush is a loser – pure and simple. A LOSER! There is no other way to describe the gang of idiots ruining this great nation.
And this is your preferred King of America?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:39 pmGOD HELP US IF MCCAIN COMES ANYWHERE NEAR THE WHITEHOUSE.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pmMcCain is widely known as a military F-ck up when he was actually in the military, oh, 35 years ago.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pmThat has got to be about the most patronizing and insulting thing I’ve heard since Mittens declared that his sons are serving the country by trying to help him get elected.
McJowls is TOAST in the general election.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:43 pmBy McCain’s logic, both the Army Chief of Staff and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff don’t “understand the military†as well as he does.
Because the VC allowed you to study all materials available about the US military while you were their prisoner for 5 friggin years , you senile old fool ?
Oh wait , it must be reflected in your United States Naval Academy grades ………Yeah , 894th out of 899 ; sixth from the bottom in class rank.
Welcome to reality , George Bush the 3rd………….
February 12th, 2008 at 4:43 pmConservatives should run from McCain, he will need some hefty tax dollars to support a big military presence in Iraq and rebuild the country. Or do you still believe Iraq’s oil will pay for our presence and rebuilding, just another fairy tale you were told.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:44 pmAnd anyone who’s as clueless about economics and the cost of this war doesn’t deserve to be the president!
February 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pmMcTreason, indeed!
February 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pmWill you now listen to Murtha JK?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pmTo support the continuation of a bogus war based on lies and bull$hit is the epitome of treason against this country and our constitution.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pmThanks for calling me unintelligent, you lost any and all hope I’ve ever given you. How do people think he’s going to win over independents again?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:47 pmJohn McDementia will be made mincemeat of in any debate about anything intelligent like how to get this country out of the variety of messes we’re in from the economy to the war to something pretty mundane like “how to balance a budget”, McDementia is clueless.
The more John opens his mouth, the more he outs just how lacking he is in the intelligence department. We’ve had one clueless moron for 7 years – we certainly don’t need another.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pmWhen Johnny McBushed chortled how we need to be in Iraq for a hundred years, he illustrated the profound level of his senile dementia. He’s already 72 so why should he worry? What’s up with his medical condition anyway? Being hushed up?
February 12th, 2008 at 4:50 pmAnyone who DOESN”T worry about how long we are in Iraq
February 12th, 2008 at 4:54 pmDoesn’t understand economics.
Doesn’t understand the cost this war has had on our economy.
Doesn’t understand what it has done to Iraq and the 4 million people
who have had to flee their country, their homes.
Don’t forget the estimated million or so Iraqis no longer alive to even flee from it, Evergreen.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pmOh, ok. So, since you libs now are on the side of whatever military people say I’m sure you now agree with what General Petraeus has said and will say, correct???????????
Yeah sure!!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 12, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Uh…it’s not so much we’re on the side of “whatever military people say.” It’s more we’re on the side of the truth. And the truth is that our presence in Iraq has been a ginormous fustercluck. Some current & retired genrals see this and tell the truth, so we agree with them & appreciate their honesty. Petraeus doesn;t so we don’t.
Sorry if you’re not smart enough or too willingly ignorant to get it, but hey, blame your parents for not raising you better,
February 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pmYa know, Slappy, the GOOPers and the Reich-wing have screwed up every last single, solitary thing they’ve touched over the last 7 yrs so badly, playing word games like JK is trying to do today is all they have left.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:59 pmJapan surrendered in 1945, we officially ended the occupation 7 years later in 1952 and still have a large military presence there. Same thing in Europe, not to mention Korea.
Comment by Gin — February 12, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
How completely irrelevant. Well, at least it’s not her usual lie, just a diversion from the matter at hand. Fact-free, as usual.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:01 pmThis just makes my head hurt. Iraq is a significant portion of our budget. How long is it going to be so? How much more money are we going to borrow so our troops can continue this mission?
In Mr. McCain’s opinion, what is the mission anyway? We have already killed Saddam Hussein and verified that there are no WMDs? Is the goal now to continue Mr. Bush’s nation building exercise? Is the goal to restore the country’s infrastructure to pre-war levels? Is the goal to satisfy the requirements of the Geneva Conventions? Or, what?
We know that Mr. Bush will not set any achievable milestones or goalposts. It seems that Mr. McCain doesn’t have any “straight talk” to give us on this issue either. It is easier to make jokes and disparage the questioner, than to give us honest answers.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:01 pmThank goodness that St McCain ubderstand the military. After all, it’s been more than forty years that the old coot was in the army. And he has not let us forget it. He has been milking his service and his status as a POW for all it’s worth for the past forty years. In the meantime, however, he managed to dump his disabled wife for a much younger version, got his hands caught in the cookie jar in the S&L scandal (he was one of the Keating Five), kissed up Bush’s ass, and prosternated himself at the knees of right-wing con-men and crooks such Pat Robertson.
McCain is beyond contempt. He is a noxious, lower, form of life, just as G W Bush and the rest of the Kool-Aid Republicans.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:02 pm… just banging on your keyboards like a bunch of chimpanzees…
Comment by Gin — February 12, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Oh… the irony…
Wanna a nice fresh banana? Come on… that’s the good little chimp…
February 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pm“Japan surrendered in 1945, we officially ended the occupation 7 years later in 1952 and still have a large military presence there. Same thing in Europe, not to mention Korea.”
Comment by Gin
False analogy. We were attacked by the Japanese first.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:06 pmMy God TL,that has to be one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever heard here, and there have been many.
Comment by Gin — February 12, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Maybe spending less time with ignorant people will reduce the number of ignorant statements you hear. Just an idea…
February 12th, 2008 at 5:07 pmbreaking news:
“McCain Received $100,000 From Firm Of Abramoff Notoriety”
-Sam Stein, HuffPo
…money from Greenberg Traurig, Abramoff’s personal fleece-mill
I’d say the Maverick’s knowledge of curruption and quid pro quo is even better than his knowledge of the military.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:08 pm“I’d say the Maverick’s knowledge of curruption and quid pro quo is even better than his knowledge of the military.”
Comment by tombaker
His polling numbers will take a hit from this revelation…
February 12th, 2008 at 5:09 pmGin: “Japan surrendered in 1945, we officially ended the occupation 7 years later in 1952 and still have a large military presence there. Same thing in Europe, not to mention Korea.”
Total number of American soldiers killed by occupied insurgents in Germany, Japan and Korea in the last 60 years: Zero.
Thanks for the reminder on why the occupation of Iraq is so insane, Gin. Appreciate it.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:12 pmOh gin – take a pill – my point is WE AREN’T BEING SHOT AT NOR ARE WE NOT WANTED IN THOSE COUNTRIES. As for being shot at in Korea, do you know if anyone has been shot at there ? And please I have had two family members in Korea when there was shooting.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pmJohn McCain’s hoppin’ mad about $35 Billion in earmarks. $2 Trillion for the occupation of Iraq? Not so much.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:15 pmTexaslady, the fact that “Gin” thinks it’s ignorant to point out that Germans and Japanese people were not trying to kill us during the postwar occupation says more about him than anything else. Whether or not our soldiers get killed in the process of carrying out foreign policy? Gin doesn’t think that’s important enough to discuss. It’s all politics for sociopaths.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pmAnyone who doesn’t like the taste of this shit just doesn’t have a sophisticated enough pallet.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pmSt. McCain to the WSJ: “I don’t know as much as I should about economics.”
The great man’s response to Tim Russert asking about that: “I never said that. Where’d you get that quote.”
The Straight Talk Express swerves off the road and into the bushes.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:20 pmCol Jack 5:18 – Gin and his like just don’t get it, Iraq doesn’t want us there, we are feeding the insurrgents, which really if we were invaded we would be fighting back too. Wait til Gin gets the tax bill for paying for our “presence”.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pmOn the lighter side, this from Frank Luntz…who needs a sense of humor these days:
“John McCain Spent 5 1/2 years in prison, and then became a Politician.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pmMost Politicians, these days, do it the other way around.”
My friends, isn’t the view wonderful when you have your head stuck up your ass and you think you know more than God Almighty?
February 12th, 2008 at 5:24 pmWell, since you brought up Korea in the first place, let’s discuss. Another unnecessary and very brutal war that resulted in a split nation and a very dangerous enemy. Funny that you bring up Korea. After WWII, the Koreans were glad the Japanese were out and wanted to United; however, the powers that be – US and Soviet Union – decided they knew better than the people of that country and brokered a deal. The deal to split Korea and unite it after 4 years. What our intervention did was create two separate countries and governments. Now both North and South Korea were competing to unite the country under their rule – that led to the Korean War.
So there you have it Gin, because of our irrational fear of communism, we brokered a deal with the Soviets to split a country that didn’t want our intervention. Instead of brokering the deal with the soviets to leave Korea alone. We see how well that worked out and still have troops there. Would have been nice if the Koreans got their country back after WWII instead of the US brokering for their piece there.
So glad all the people and atrocities of that war had to happen because of our intervention. Man, if only Iraq was as nice as Korea. What a shining example.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:29 pmBadger – good one ! How many Republicans have had to leave now for being indicted, we need a count.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pmNo, they didn’t. They declared war on us, and after their loss we staged 1.6 MILLION allied troops to keep the piece while we assisted in reconstruction. HMMMM….something seems to be missing in the Iraq equation.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pmComment by Gin — February 12, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Most Incomprehensible Comment of the Day!
***releasing of balloons and confetti… sounds of applause***
February 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pmOh…I know what is missing. Iraq, was not a threat. Iraq did not declare war on anyone. Iraq was not assisting terrorists.
History is so fun, I love repeating it.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pmActually Gin I do know better. The people of Germany and Japan were glad to have our dollars to help rebuild their countries that their leaders destroyed for oil. Sound familiar ? Hitler and the Japanese leader both needed oil. Usually it is the ordinary people in war that are hurt the most.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:33 pmLook at all the great reconstructoring we have done in Iraq. 5 years and power is still crappy, water is poisonous, and lots of things go boom everyday. Happy days!
February 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pmGin: “I’m not sure that Japan and Germany invited us to occupy them either, I’m sure you know better though.”
Irrelevant. The point is, oh clueless one, that there was not an armed insurrection in either Germany or Japan, but you may or may not have noticed that there IS an armed insurrection in Iraq. Therefore, your comparison of the occupations is a poor comparison.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pmLook at all the great reconstructoring we have done in Iraq……. Happy days!
Comment by DanCaveman — February 12, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
Happy Days Indeed for the No Bid Contractors on the receiving end of a Trillion dollar fiasco.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:41 pmGin is grasping at straws to bolster his comment. Gin do you like unwanted guests staying too long at your home ?
February 12th, 2008 at 5:41 pm“Anyone who worries about how long we’re in Iraq does not understand the military and does not understand war,†said McCain.
all aboard the ‘crabby old man express’!! i hope he knows it’s not legal to promise young people shiny nickels for their support. also, if i was 71 years old, i might not care if we had troops in iraq for 100 years either.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:41 pmMemo to John:
You’re full of $#it.
Cheers,
February 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pmAnd evidently the media wants you to believe that this tired old warmongering crackpot can beat Clinton or Obama.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:03 pmYa know, Slappy, the GOOPers and the Reich-wing have screwed up every last single, solitary thing they’ve touched over the last 7 yrs so badly, playing word games like JK is trying to do today is all they have left.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 12, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Understood, but sometimes to politely point out just how stupid and wrong someone is can be kind of fun.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pmOh mama/This man will be the end/He’s stuck inside of Baghdad/With the Hanoi blues again
February 12th, 2008 at 6:10 pm#78 – The one thing they haven’t screwed up is their contributors ability to make an obscene amount of money.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:15 pmIt’s evident that McCain doesn’t understand the role of the military in a democracy. At the beginning of the US involvement in WWII our British Allies submitted a well documented and elaborate set of strategic plans for war against Germany – all envisioned the war ending in the late 1940s. George Marshall rejected them and when FDR aked why, Marshall responded – “Mr. President, democracies do not fight Seven Year Wars.” That is still true, and with that as a given the more fundamental question is “what is the state of our democracy” when a potential leader’s talk of A Hundred Years War comes so trippenly off his tongue.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:19 pmMr. McCain, you are an expert in being a self centered jackass.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:26 pmA retired army officer, veteran of 2 tours in Vietnam with a combat-related disability from my service there, know a damn well more about the military and combating terrorists/guerrillas than John bomb bomb McBomber.
Attacking Iraq, was not only illegal according to international law, it placed almost all of our military in a war against the wrong country. Think of what would have happened if Bush and the neocons had put all our effort into capturing/killing Bin Laden, which was very doable
- Al Qaida would present very little threat
- We would still have allies
- The Moslem world would not be united against us
- 0 casualties – US military/Iraqis
- $2 trillion saved
- Our military would be prepared for any contingencies now rather than none.
I could go on.
We need to withdraw our troops from Iraq as quickly as militarily feasibly, refocus on Afghanistan, reconstitute our military, and give the troops a respite.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:58 pmHe then added that it is “really almost insulting to one’s intelligence†to question “how long we’re in Iraq†because he believes the current “strategy†is “succeeding.â€
Wow, now McCain is insulting the 60+ percent of the people in this country who recognize that we are not in a “war” in Iraq, we are occupying Iraq, and want us out. Smooth move McCain. Way to get elected of the United States. Insult 60% of it’s citizens.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:59 pmWith 130,000 US Troops in Iraq come Election Day in November, we’ll see just how well McCain’s warmongering goes over with the voters
I’m guessing, Not Very
February 12th, 2008 at 7:20 pmInsult 60% of it’s citizens.
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 12, 2008 @ 6:59 pm
that’s the republican way to “win”. Which is why they have had to steal elections. A republican could never win a fair election.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:22 pmIf we are “succeeding” then why would it be necessary to be there for 100 years? It doesn’t sound like success to me.
February 12th, 2008 at 9:14 pmMore bad news from Iraq!
February 13th, 2008 at 9:54 amIf we hadn’t had seven years of Bush’s disingenuousness then I would say that Grandpa McCain’s statement was breath-takingly disingenuous and dishonest.
It’s Sen. McCain who doesn’t understand the occupation of Iraq. Posing as a military expert, he obviously hasn’t brushed up on the history of attempted military occupations in Iraq. Also, refereeing a religious/tribal civil war in Iraq isn’t in the least parallel to maintaining bases in Korea, Kuwait or any of his other examples.
I was struck by McCain’s obvious embrace of American imperialism– the United States as an empire, an overlord of other nations. Does a democratic republic really need over 400 bases on foreign soil? More to the point, can we really afford to keep them?
February 13th, 2008 at 1:30 pmtime to put some restraints on the military
February 14th, 2008 at 4:10 amIt’s evident that McCain doesn’t understand the role of the military in a democracy. At the beginning of the US involvement in WWII our British Allies submitted a well documented and elaborate set of strategic plans for war against Germany – all envisioned the war ending in the late 1940s. George Marshall rejected them and when FDR aked why, Marshall responded – “Mr. President, democracies do not fight Seven Year Wars.” That is still true, and with that as acer travelmate 420 battery,acer travelmate 430 battery a given the more fundamental question is “what is the state of our democracy” when a potential leader’s talk of A Hundred Years War comes so trippenly off his tongue.
October 15th, 2008 at 3:11 am