Pointless pundit babble.
By on Feb 12th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Pointless pundit babble.
During tonight’s Potomac Primary coverage, pundits on various cable networks filled airtime with uninformative chatter. Watch some of it:
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It’s because they know they’re becoming increasingly irrelevant w/ each passing day…
February 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pmNah, I think I’ll take a pass on that….
Thanks anyway, TP. :)
February 12th, 2008 at 9:48 pmPointless pundit babble… Watch some of it
No thanks. I’ll take your word for it! And this babble is why I don’t watch TV. I will use the incredible internet!
February 12th, 2008 at 9:49 pmDid he say grease board or grease ball?
February 12th, 2008 at 9:49 pm“karl rove and a grease board”
just… what a line…
February 12th, 2008 at 9:55 pmJust hearing the words “Karl Rove” and “greased board” in the same sentence means… I’m not gonna sleep well tonight… **Shuddder…*
February 12th, 2008 at 10:02 pmpundits on various cable networks filled airtime with uninformative chatter.
that’s exactly what pundits are – oxygen thieves.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pmI will use the incredible internet!
Comment by Merlin — February 12, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
Amen.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pmI will use the incredible internet!
Comment by Merlin — February 12, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
Merlin, did you mean “the incredible internets”? Oh, sorry, that administration is in it’s last throws.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:06 pmWho the hell is John Kerry? Why would anyone listen to a nobody like him?
February 12th, 2008 at 10:15 pmTheir laughter seems forced and ungenuine.
Did Buchanan say that Alexandria, Virginia in the south was Marxist because they vote their concious?
Southerners, that I know, know little, if anything of Marx nor read his outdated philosophy.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:16 pmComment by John Kerry — February 12, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
McCain, according to your compadres is a liberal.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:17 pmJK seems to have fallen in love with the culture of corruption and wants more record deficits, more inflation and more record budgets…oh and bigger government.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:19 pmRachel Maddow is a Rhodes scholar who has had her own radio program for a number of years and has produced shows for others.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:19 pmTrolls like JK, don’t get around much — their world is very limited.
you libs want to spin for the inexperienced brotha!
Comment by John Kerry — February 12, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
Yo! Easy with the intentional racial crap. You can’t handle the kicking you’ll take
February 12th, 2008 at 10:24 pmSimple solution: just turn the volume down to zero and watch the returns and numbers. Fill in the silence with music or your own unique commentary if you desire. Works for me with the NFL…
February 12th, 2008 at 10:27 pmOT – but read this:
February 12th, 2008 at 10:28 pmA license application filed by the Utah-based company, EnergySolutions, seeks to import low-level radioactive waste
from Italy, process it in Tennessee and then dispose of the waste in Utah.
EnergySolutions’ exploitation of a loophole in our country’s nuclear waste regulatory framework could put the United States on a path to becoming the world’s nuclear waste dump.
Traitor Karl Rove… the ghost of christmas past, along with his grease board and greased butt.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:32 pmComment by John Kerry — February 12, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
Idiots like this were only too willing to accept an inexperienced president when George W. Bush came along.
At least Obama succeeded at life without his daddy having to purchase said success for him.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:37 pmIt’s because they know they’re becoming increasingly irrelevant w/ each passing day…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 12, 2008 @ 9:46 pm
Nothing could be further from the truth. The MSM in the way it presents elections & candidates, has a huge influence on who gets elected. One example is the David Gregory flap. You didn’t hear anyone saying that Romney was pimping out his kids, did you?
In poll after poll, in direct interviews, Americans are asking for more coverage of issues, and we’re not getting it. We get what they want us to get, and it’s only going to get worse now that the FCC has ruled that these media corporations can get even bigger and less diverse.
Irrelevant? I propose it’s the opposite.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:37 pmComment by John Kerry — February 12, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
Looks like the aged Hillary is done! …the inexperienced brotha
Ageism and racism! It really is a clumsy one, isn’t it.
And then it says: Thank God. Something it knows nothing about or it wouldn’t use ageism and sexism to smear people.
Trolls these days… Sigh… This is a particularly mean one. Must not have had any in a long time. Pity…
February 12th, 2008 at 10:38 pmLooks like the aged Hillary is done! Thank God. That’s great news for Republicans as Mc Cain should coast to victory no matter what spin you libs want to spin for the inexperienced brotha!
Comment by John Kerry — February 12, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
February 12th, 2008 at 10:39 pmYeah , McInsane should certainly “excel” in debates against Obama ; especially with that razor-sharp wit of his , that yellow smile , and his inordinate amount of knowledge on the economy
and keeping us in Iraq for 100 years , that 75% of Americans don’t want us to be , even 1 day longer………
you libs want to spin for the inexperienced brotha!
Comment by John Kerry
Actually I havent spun anything for Obama and lest you forgert he is related to Cheney. You talk about experience, but what experience di Bush have? A few years as Texas governor which only requires a few months work a year? A job thats primarily done by the Lt Governor?
What is McCains experience? During 2000 the swift-boat folks told me he was mentally damaged from his time as a POW and how he worked with the enemy. Are the swift boat people wrong JK?
February 12th, 2008 at 10:42 pmMax boot seems to think a bellicose old man is the tough guy to go with.
Funny I dont recall Reagan being a bellicose tough guy.
Whats up with that?
February 12th, 2008 at 10:44 pmI’m surprised more of the talking heads don’t ask how Republicans think they are the right ones to clean up Bush’s Republican mess. “Conservatives” can thank Bush and Rove for the destruction of their party and the huge turn-outs Democrats have been enjoying.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:47 pmComment by Xisithrus — February 12, 2008 @ 10:44 pm
Max boot seems to think a bellicose old man is the tough guy to go with.
All anybody needs to know about Max Boot…
From Wiki:
Boot has been a prominent advocate for neoconservative foreign policy, once describing his own position as support for the use of “American might to promote American ideals” throughout the world.[2] He is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a contributing editor to The Weekly Standard.
Before I cancelled My subscription to the LA Times, I had to hold my nose once a week on the day his column appeared. He is a total ass.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:53 pmhey jk – see comment #16 – obama will slaughter mccain in november – he seems to be gathering more momentum with each passing day and mccain along with all of his ‘my friends’ will get steamrolled at the end of it all ….can’t wait to see that!!!
February 12th, 2008 at 10:58 pmIf Obama gets the nomination, he must know that a never-ending stream of the most vile racist attacks will be coming his way.
I shudder to think of it.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:11 pmIt’s so damn obvious with the record turnouts for both sides that the US public is interested in politics like never before (might we see 55% vote in November rather than the usual 51%?)–well since 1950 anyway.
And since the pundits have been bamboozled by polling data and they’ve now adjusted to the fact that they don’t know what the hell is going on but that they are getting ratings, why don’t they talk to actual voters and bloggers instead of amongst themselves?
Oh, right, because then they’d lose their relevance and become mere reporters, not highly-paid analysts with “insider information” and deep insight. Not that the public individual knows any better about what’s going on (I sure don’t) but if asked about a candidate or issue I’m sure I could make any pundit look stupid, and so couyld many other ordinary citizens—for free!
OH well, roll on November.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:13 pmComment by Zooey — February 12, 2008 @ 11:11 pm
If Obama gets the nomination, he must know that a never-ending stream of the most vile racist attacks will be coming his way.
I shudder to think of it.
Shudder not, sweet Zooey. Obama is not the inexperienced waif that Billary makes him out to be. He is a Black man who survived the streets, and all that that portends! Dressed in the conventional clothes of a politician one does not see his past. I have known more than a few street smart people and they never lost that strength and ability to deal with nasty adversity. Obama will dazzle more than a few, IMO, when the swift ass-holes fling their crap.
This is not 2004, as the voting thus far is showing. The people are not fooled by the Rovian tactics anymore. When the right slings mud it will be like spitting into the wind. Obama will sail above the fray.
Mark my words on this!
February 12th, 2008 at 11:23 pmMark my words on this!
Comment by Merlin — February 12, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
I’m sure you’re right, Merlin. Thanks. :)
February 12th, 2008 at 11:26 pmFebruary 12, 2008
Clinton: Still no congratulations for Obama
Posted: 10:30 PM ET
Clinton did not acknowledge Obama’s winnings or congratulate him on his victories over the past two nights.
EL PASO, Texas (CNN) – For the second election night in a row, Hillary Clinton failed to acknowledge or congratulate Barack Obama after he won the day in dominating fashion.
On Tuesday in El Paso, hours after Virginia had been called for Obama, she stuck to her “Texas campaign kickoff†message and did not stray from an energetic, Lone Star-themed stump speech. She did mention Obama by name, only to chide his health care plan.
On Saturday night in Richmond, Virginia, Clinton spoke to a crowd of thousands at the state’s annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner, but she ignored Obama’s quartet of blowout primary and caucus wins that day as well (Obama also won the Maine caucuses the next day).
The courtesy of conceding a primary or caucus loss — and then congratulating your opponent — is by no means required. But it has become standard practice during campaign season.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:28 pm8 % of Registered Republicans in the Ole Dominion State, the Commonwealth of Virginia voted for Obama today
The world is already a changed place.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:29 pmRove is already on a greased board…to hell.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:31 pmThe courtesy of conceding a primary or caucus loss — and then congratulating your opponent — is by no means required. But it has become standard practice during campaign season.
Comment by Exley — February 12, 2008 @ 11:28 pm
yeah, right, like the republicans do. jesus, exley, you’re so transparent.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:32 pmOT but exciting! This from Chris Bowers:
Consolidated Potomac Primary Returns Thread
by: Chris Bowers
Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 22:30
Update–Huge night for progressive movement: With every precinct coming in with at least a 10% improvement for Edwards over 2006, let me reiterate this point: the new primary voters who are coming out for Barack Obama are also going to result in the first progressive displacement of a centrist, corporate, congressional Democrat via a primary in years. This it it. This is what we have been working for and building for. This is our emerging majority. We finally have the organization, and the voters, and the whole ball of wax. The movement has thoroughly come of age.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pmAt least Obama succeeded at life without his daddy having to purchase said success for him.
Comment by Zooey — February 12, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
February 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
#37, Toasterhead:
That is not a true passage. It is an urban legend…a myth:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp
February 12th, 2008 at 11:55 pmHey gang. Here’s a great site to get primary results without the “babble”. Just click a State or a date for info. Enjoy.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2008/primaries/states/
February 12th, 2008 at 11:56 pmComment by toasterhead — February 12, 2008 @ 11:48 pm
Thanks for the quote!
Wasn’t 1986 about the year that W and Billy Graham took their infamous walk on the beach?
February 12th, 2008 at 11:58 pmComment by pete — February 12, 2008 @ 11:56 pm
Thanks Pete!
February 13th, 2008 at 12:02 amThat is not a true passage. It is an urban legend…a myth:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp
Comment by Exley — February 12, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
Oh, I know… But the words themselves are still true, whether they were written by Reagan or not.
February 13th, 2008 at 12:05 amWasn’t 1986 about the year that W and Billy Graham took their infamous walk on the beach?
Comment by Merlin — February 12, 2008 @ 11:58 pm
Yes, though according to Craig Unger that may not have happened either.
February 13th, 2008 at 12:07 amHistory teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
– Ronald Reagan
This war will pay for itself -Wolfowitz
February 13th, 2008 at 12:08 am#42 Okay, Toasterhead…Just wanted to make sure that people knew that quote was political opinion/satire written by Michael Kinsley and that it was not actually written by the Gipper in his diaries.
February 13th, 2008 at 12:08 amI agree Merlin, Max Boot is just a war monger, Ironically he works for the Council of Foreign Realtions but is not really interested in relations but using military might.
February 13th, 2008 at 12:18 amI’d just like to politely say that there are quite a few people that frequent this site that I truly appreciate.
February 13th, 2008 at 12:49 amI also think Zooey and I live in the same area and this seems like a good person to me.
Ignore the pundits.
Watch WATCH the superdelegates.
“There are currently 4,049 total delegates to the Democratic National Convention, including 3,253 pledged delegates and 796 superdelegates. The total number of delegate votes needed to win the nomination is 2,025″
“So Hillary or Obama needs 2,025 delegates to win. The superdelegates are roughly 39% of this “magic number” of delegates that are needed to win.“
February 13th, 2008 at 1:05 amObama is running on Hope. McCain has come out against Hope, and he wants 100 years of war.
February 13th, 2008 at 1:31 amI don’t know if greaseboarding is torture, but I know if Karl Rove was doing it, I would feel tortured.
February 13th, 2008 at 2:15 amI feel that this is the most critical time of the election between Repubs and Dems. What if (poor) Hillary loses because ‘white men have jumped’ for Obama? She will lose the support and affections of FOX, MSNBC, American land interests by-and-large, and big-businesses barons! That’s all!! (but not, We The People) p.s. Has Carl Rove ever lost a prediction, like say, winning in an illegally instigated war?
February 13th, 2008 at 2:50 amBabble is in the beholder of the mouth.
One man’s babble is another man’s pabulum.
TP- we all know here on our site that we all become political pundits as we discuss the issues. And we definitely read a whole lot of babble on the threads.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:07 amThat damn Flag is offensive , just put up the Confederate Flag.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:46 amWhat the hell is MSNBC doing?
I watched some of it last night on MSNBC and it was really embarrassing. Also, I feel sorry for Olbermann every time they make him sit in a seat next to Tweety. There were a few instances where he even rolled his eyes about something Tweety said.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:49 amWho the hell is Maddow? Why would anyone have a nobody like her on the air?
Looks like the aged Hillary is done! Thank God. That’s great news for Republicans as Mc Cain should coast to victory no matter what spin you libs want to spin for the inexperienced brotha!
Comment by John Kerry
I see that the fool tool troll JK dropped by to stink up the place again. It wouldn’t last a minute in a debate with Rachel Maddow. I also see that it is sinking further and further into delusion since it thinks that McCain can beat Obama. I would like a front row seat to watch it’s head explode when Obama wins.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:52 amWhat is McCains experience? During 2000 the swift-boat folks told me he was mentally damaged from his time as a POW and how he worked with the enemy. Are the swift boat people wrong JK?
Comment by Xisithrus
You know, that just brought to mind an interesting approach to ads against McCain. How about we run all the attack ads that the Republiscums ran against McCain, making sure that they are identified as Republiscum attack ads. Then say, “Is this who you want as your President, Republicans”?
February 13th, 2008 at 9:57 amIf Obama gets the nomination, he must know that a never-ending stream of the most vile racist attacks will be coming his way.
I shudder to think of it.
Comment by Zooey
And, don’t forget the attacks about his “drug use”. Didn’t you love the NY Times hit piece where, since they couldn’t find any of Obama’s friends who would verify his drug use, they said that maybe he was “exaggerating” his drug use. Now why would Obama do that?
I’m not too worried. Obama is up to the attacks. All he needs to do is to address them head-on, in his calm and articulate manner, and then move on. I think that hysterical racist attack ads against Obama will only go to hurt the Republicans.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:00 amThe repugs are afraid, very afraid, of Obama. They will surely use the race card, the muslim card, the anti-jewish card and the not-tough-enough card on him.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:27 amObama is not stupid – far from it – he is able to confront those slurs – he won’t be swift-boated – and his message of meeting with our enemies is one that we haven’t heard in 8 years, and we all know how well that one worked.
The repugs have already begun to allege that Obama doesn’t have a foreign policy plan when Obama has articulated his plans and vision. The repugs will speak as one hard-line chorus against Obama, but as long as Obama is able to maintain the populist support, they will lose and they will lose big.
Pat Buchanan is a MADMAN!!! I’ll never understand why MSNBC has him on and why anyone listens to a word he says.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:45 amI’d just like to politely say that there are quite a few people that frequent this site that I truly appreciate.
I also think Zooey and I live in the same area and this seems like a good person to me.
Comment by Keith H. — February 13, 2008 @ 12:49 am
Thanks, Keith H. That’s really nice! There are a lot of great people here, yourself included. :-)
February 13th, 2008 at 10:54 amThanks, Pat Buchanan, I hadn’t realized anywhere in the US was anything close to being a hotbed of Marxist thought(Groucho or Karl). As far as Karl Rove and his greased board, I thought the only thing getting greased were his palms.
February 13th, 2008 at 1:04 pm