Conyers introduces Miers/Bolten contempt resolutions.
By on Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Conyers introduces Miers/Bolten contempt resolutions.
Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, introduced a criminal contempt resolution today against White House chief of staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers, who were subpoenaed in the U.S. attorney scandal, but refused to comply. Conyers also filed a resolution for Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to file a civil suit against the White House. Read the resolutions here.
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I’ll believe it IF that ever happens. Meanwhile, Conyers will write his 23rd letter to the White House expressing his ‘disappointment’.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:03 pmHow ironic that a once Supreme Court nominee is now an object of criminal contempt. Good thing that one isn’t deciding on law.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:11 pmhmm
February 13th, 2008 at 8:15 pmWe’re getting closer…
February 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pmComment by Uncle Ho — February 13, 2008 @ 8:03 pm
I share your anger and frustration at the lack of action in bringing these criminals to justice. However, it is best to keep in mind that:(Paraphrase)
“Though the mills of Justice grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small.”
This from the link.
“As expected, things are finally moving forward in the House today to bring contempt resolutions against White House officials for ignoring Congressional subpoenas as part of the U.S. attorney firings investigation.”
This is one more step in the right direction! Slow but happening.
It is less than a year away from the dawn! Let us let go of non productive anger and frustration and look positively to what a Democratically controlled Congress and President can and should do. Let’s put constant pressure on the candidates to prosecute BushCo, and press them hard after they are in office in 2009.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:33 pmComment by Uncle Ho — February 13, 2008 @ 8:03 pm
My thoughts exactly, Uncle Ho.
Comment by Merlin — February 13, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
Used to be a very optimistic person. I’ll keep trying. :)
February 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pmComment by Zooey — February 13, 2008 @ 8:36 pm
You are a terrific woman Zooey!
February 13th, 2008 at 8:41 pmComment by Bob — February 13, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
How ironic that a once Supreme Court nominee is now an object of criminal contempt. Good thing that one isn’t deciding on law.
Actually about as Ironic as Scalia coming out and saying that torture may not be illegal. And he is deciding on law!
February 13th, 2008 at 8:43 pmIt is less than a year away from the dawn! Let us let go of non productive anger and frustration and look positively to what a Democratically controlled Congress and President can and should do. Let’s put constant pressure on the candidates to prosecute BushCo, and press them hard after they are in office in 2009.
Comment by Merlin — February 13, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
Nice sentiment, but unfortunately it’s misguided. One need look no further than the behavior of the house majority leader regarding the Rockefeller/Cheney authored FISA bill. Look at how many democrats voted for excusing telecom lawbreaking.
Optimism is simply not going to work when those people who are supposedly on your side are stabbing you in the back. Sorry.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:47 pmComment by Merlin — February 13, 2008 @ 8:41 pm
*blush*
I must say you’ve been on fire the last few days — although not the “stop, drop & roll” variety. :-)
February 13th, 2008 at 9:02 pmComment by Namtillaku — February 13, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
Optimism is simply not going to work when those people who are supposedly on your side are stabbing you in the back. Sorry.
Actually it is I who am sorry. Sentiment? That is all you see? I’m sorry you are so angry and frustrated (not to mention cynical) you did not read what I wrote without reading your own interpretation into it. I was indicating hard work, drive and a positive approach. This does not mean optimism in my book. Optimism means “hope” to me. I don’t have, nor advocate hope. I also don’t believe in giving up when the chips are down and whining about how bad things are.
We are entering a new era of political change. This is the first time this has happened since 1980! The electorate is high and things are slowly happening. Look at Donna Edwards winning in her primary race! A true grassroots person beating a war hack Democrat!
It is time to look to the future. To work hard, be involved and to make our presence felt. Lets work together and get on with the business at hand.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:05 pmYou see anger in my post? I don’t feel angry, and I didn’t post in an angry tone. I can only interpret your post one way, you are blind to what is going on in congress. You say wait until it’s Dem in the WH (beware Hillary), tell me, how will this stop Harry Reid from working with the Republicans to take away your rights?
If you look at the electorate before the 2006 elections, you will see that we were upset with the way things were being run, and we literally voted the bums out – giving us a Democratic majority in Congress. The reality is that not only have the Democrats not done what we asked them to do(leave Iraq), they are explicitly working WITH republicans on matters such as FISA.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:22 pmAnd just exactly took so long to do this?
Either you support law and order or you’re a republican, make up your minds.
Buck Fush
February 13th, 2008 at 9:23 pmAm I trapped in a time warp or something?
February 13th, 2008 at 9:33 pmBetter late than never. Maybe the Dems in congress realize that the disgust of the american people with their foot dragging on impeachment could cost them this election after all? This is precisely why so many people jumped ship from the Dem party and became unaffiliated voters. It was a demonstration of anger and disgust with Pelosi and Reid et al.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:38 pmI am actually quite impressed. Conyers is doing what he can. And it is NOT a strongly worded letter.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:39 pmHas Barack or Hillary even alluded to high crimes and misdemeanors and their oath of office regarding the start of impeachment hearings? Huckabee has which surprises me.
The people are waiting to hear this not just from Wexler or from Conyers (impeachment, that is) but from Barack or Hillary. I’m an Obama fan but am not impressed with his recent statement regarding impeachment being reserved for “real high crimes” – as if the total decimation of our constitution and civil rights IS NOT an impeachable offense? If not, then how about lying repeatedly to the people and duping congress into an illegitimate war? If these are not considered by him to be high crimes, I don’t know where his head is.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:41 pmI guarantee that if Obama begins to speak directly about the need to impeach Deadeye Dick and the other Dick, his sidekick, he will win hands down.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:41 pm“I guarantee that if Obama begins to speak directly about the need to impeach Deadeye Dick and the other Dick, his sidekick, he will win hands down.”
I doubt that. It would likely turn off independent and Republican voters that may not like Bush anyway but are not up for an ugly partisan fight. And it would really take away from the time Obama can spend talking to the people. Obama (or Hillary, for that matter) CAN’T take that position.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:47 pmUnfortunately, Obama has to play a very careful poker hand, and I sure would not want to be in his shoes. He knows what we, the progressives want, he know what the Liberals want, he knows what the Independants want, and who cares what the repukes want. It is hard to campaign with knowing the wants of so many and being able to bring them together.
And if he were to say that he would go after the war criminals, how far behind to you think that Anthrax letter would be?
Let’s just hope.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:48 pmAttorney General scandal. Hundreds of thousands of WH emails deleted off servers they should have been in the first place. Telecoms breaking the law simply because they we told to by the President. We’re still in Iraq. Election fraud in 2002. WMD lies. Saddam connections to Al Qaeda. Cheney’s claim he isn’t part of the executive while not allowing anyone to look at his visitor logs. The leak of the identity of a covert CIA agent. Wexler’s impeachment hearings.
All of these have been treated like a TV show, but nothing is actually done. Call me pessimistic if you like, but these things happened, they are facts, yet they’ve been swept under the rug by republicans & democrats alike.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pmWe’re getting closer…
Comment by TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong
To WHAT? Conyers writing another letter? LOL.
NOTHING will come of this… as usual.
Haven’t you losers figured it out yet? These 2 parties are just 2 sides of the same coin, operating in unison together. Any attempts such as this, are merely for show. It’s all just theater for the great unwashed masses. Always has been.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:52 pmNamtillaku, if it were not close to a very important election I would be writing my Congressmen (and woman) every week. But right now there is no room for mistake or for disenfranchising voters. I would love to see what would happen if we got the presidency, and a veto-proof majority in the Senate (as long as Reid was shown the door).
February 13th, 2008 at 9:54 pm“To WHAT? Conyers writing another letter? LOL.
NOTHING will come of this… as usual.
Haven’t you losers figured it out yet? These 2 parties are just 2 sides of the same coin, operating in unison together. Any attempts such as this, are merely for show. It’s all just theater for the great unwashed masses. Always has been.”
No, just look at the recent telecom vote. The Republicans are ALL bad while the Dems are half 1/3 bad. We need to target all Reps. and the DINOs. What do you expect Conyers to do with such wilting weasels like Pelosi leading the House? We need to hold the leadership accountable.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:56 pmNot half 1/3. 1/3
February 13th, 2008 at 9:57 pmfrom my inbox, in part, from ThePen:
We have sent countless emails, faxes and made phone calls beyond measure, demanding that Congress actually stand up for itself and for us, and confront the runaway Constitutional train wreck that is the Cheney/Bush administration. But there comes a time in the course of human events when we ourselves have to stand up to those who we trusted to fight for us, but who have failed us, and challenge them for their own primary nominations in their own party.
Yet and still, first a brave candidate must step forward to make that challenge a reality, and in the 8th Congressional district of California, Shirley Golub has answered the call of destiny in her heart to make that happen. And Shirley has posted the most amazing video you ever saw to throw down that challenge, and you can see it at this page.
Shirley Golub “I’m On The Table” Video: http://www.shirley08.com
What Shirley is doing is leading a weekly demonstration in front of
Nancy Pelosi’s district office, every Thursday at noon, at 450 Golden
Gate Ave, to literally put herself on the table and say, “I’m on the
table, Nancy, and as long as I am, impeachment is too.”. And so too
with every other issue we expected action on at least a year ago,
ending the indefensible occupation of Iraq, and every other issue on
which Congress seems incapable of confronting the most unpopular
administration in American history.
By inviting all her fellow constituents to join her in demonstration
that grows week by week, Shirley Golub is looking to demonstrate that
we the people have the numbers to replace ANY member of Congress who thinks they can long ignore the voices of their constituents. Please watch Shirley’s kickoff mobilization video:
Shirley Golub “I’m On The Table” Video: http://www.shirley08.com
pass it on… maybe nancy will get the message…
can’t hurt…
go shirley!
February 13th, 2008 at 9:58 pmkaty, damn right. I will be sending money her way.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:01 pmI just watched the vid, katy. I LOVE that woman!!
February 13th, 2008 at 10:02 pmit all has to start here, in the house…
OBAMA is a CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR…
he will be the LAST person to inhibit the RULE OF LAW…
when the time comes…
but it has to start in the house…
and this is (another?) start… i’ll take it.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:03 pmIf someone mugged an old lady, but all the witnesses and the police turned away and avoided looking at it and pretended it was not happening that mugger would not be charged and prosecuted.
We have had a similar situation with the Bush Administration (gang) mugging the Constitution, the rule of law and the Federal Government while heisting every last dollar/I.O.U. that was in the Treasury.
Congress is avoiding acknowledging and investigating what the Bush Admin. has been up to and is making believe it’s not happening.
This is Conyer’s throwing the public a bone because he was pushed into it by the avalanche of phone calls and emails he’s been receiving, but Congress does not really want to open up and look at that ugly can of maggots that they know is the true nature of the Bush Admin.
The Repugs are either obstructing justice or fleeing the sinking ship like rats and the Dems would rather just ignore it all and wait for the coming voter tsunami in November that is going to wash away anyone and anything remotely connected to the lying criminal Bush.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:04 pmkaty, he can’t do it. Not if he wants to be pres. And he is in the Senate anyway. It is the House that has to do it.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:04 pmNo, flavorino, Conyers is not throwing a bone. He has been a dog on that bone for several years. You cannot blame him that he doesn’t have the power to do more than what he has.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:06 pmHuckabee has which surprises me.
…
Comment by whatevah — February 13, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
there it is again!
i’ve asked for a link three times now…
either you keep missing it, or you’re evading the request…
please, a link to the huckster call for impeachment!
February 13th, 2008 at 10:07 pmthanks
Comment by Namtillaku — February 13, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
You see anger in my post?
No, I don’t see anger in your post. Sorry if I conveyed that. I was saying that I feel you are angry and frustrated at the lack of action we have gotten from Congress. Which I share with many as well.
I don’t feel angry, and I didn’t post in an angry tone.
I agree. What I feel from your post would be more like depression and defeatism. And often this follows long term frustration. How long have we been subjected to this crap? At least 7 years. That is a long time to watch your country go down hill, without anything positive happening.
I can only interpret your post one way, you are blind to what is going on in congress.
No, not blind at all. I am as aware as you are of what has been happening. And I’m not happy with a lot of it. I’m just past my anger and frustration (happened with the 2006 elections) and I’m ready to move on.
You say wait until it’s Dem in the WH (beware Hillary), tell me, how will this stop Harry Reid from working with the Republicans to take away your rights?
I totally agree on Hillary and if you have read my posts over the last couple of years you are aware I am strongly opposed to her. Also, I meant to say, if I did not, that the Congress will be changing very positively in November. A WH change alone would not be enough to be optimistic about. But both? Yes that portends good things I believe. I am not happy with Reid as leader nor Pelosi for that matter. I would like to see them both challenged and defeated. Something to work on. They both need to feel strong pressure constantly from the people and their fellow members. As long as they are secure they feel no reason to risk doing our wishes.
If you look at the electorate before the 2006 elections, you will see that we were upset with the way things were being run, and we literally voted the bums out – giving us a Democratic majority in Congress.
The “majority” we hold in the Senate is cerimonial at best. The thing it did do was take the chairmanships away from the rethugs. This was an important change as it seriously slowed the damage that was occuring. This November will bring the real opportunity of change. The numbers should be close to obstruction proof.
The reality is that not only have the Democrats not done what we asked them to do(leave Iraq),
It simply was not really possible for this to happen. I believe Congress should have made the strong effort and am very unhappy they did not. The Congress has too many blue dog and DLC Dems to accomplish change. Although the change was “big” in the Senate (no one expected us to do as well as we did,) the change was small in the ability to affect change. We need to work at the primary level to challenge these DINOS and replace them with real Progressive, grassroots Dems.
they are explicitly working WITH republicans on matters such as FISA.
This flat out angers me. These Dems need to replaced as soon as their terms are up in my view. Again, something we need to work with.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:14 pm“The reality is that not only have the Democrats not done what we asked them to do(leave Iraq),
It simply was not really possible for this to happen. I believe Congress should have made the strong effort and am very unhappy they did not. The Congress has too many blue dog and DLC Dems to accomplish change. Although the change was “big†in the Senate (no one expected us to do as well as we did,) the change was small in the ability to affect change. We need to work at the primary level to challenge these DINOS and replace them with real Progressive, grassroots Dems.
they are explicitly working WITH republicans on matters such as FISA.
This flat out angers me. These Dems need to replaced as soon as their terms are up in my view. Again, something we need to work with.
Comment by Merlin — February 13, 2008 @ 10:14 pm”
You are right. The Dems cannot override the lameduck Bush vetoes so they cannot pass anything meaningful. You are also right about FISA and the telecoms. I hope someone runs against my corporatist Dem Senator Kohl so I can help him or her in any way I can.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:19 pmkaty, he can’t do it. Not if he wants to be pres. …
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 13, 2008 @ 10:04 pm
oh, i know… i was agreeing with you, actually… or trying to…
and, yes, that shirley is great! i’d love to have such gumption…
February 13th, 2008 at 10:21 pmComment by whatevah — February 13, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
I guarantee that if Obama begins to speak directly about the need to impeach Deadeye Dick and the other Dick, his sidekick, he will win hands down.
I disagree. I am with Sabyen at #19 and Bucky Boy at #20. They both say it well. It is far too dangerous to bring this up now. It would be used by the rethugs to show how “small and petty” as well as vindictive the Dems are. A very potent campaign argument to gift the rethugs with.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:22 pm“oh, i know… i was agreeing with you, actually… or trying to…
and, yes, that shirley is great! i’d love to have such gumption…
Comment by katy — February 13, 2008 @ 10:21 pm”
Perhaps I should learn to read :)
February 13th, 2008 at 10:25 pmjust heard on the XM that john conyers is going to be on the
February 13th, 2008 at 10:28 pmed schultz show tomorrow… http://wegoted.com/
ed’s promo declared that conyers was none too happy about
the fisa vote today and they were going to talk about it…
ed’s not shy about asking the right questions…
Not a big Ed fan but I will be tuning in.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:29 pmThis flat out angers me. These Dems need to replaced as soon as their terms are up in my view. Again, something we need to work with.
Comment by Merlin — February 13, 2008 @ 10:14 pm
Looks to me that we have a lot in common. I’m neither depressed nor defeated however, I just believe that something more drastic is going to have to happen before true change. Personally, I think John Edwards was our best choice as he was the only candidate who was talking about what mattered; limiting the connections between corporations & government, and the power of corporations.
But back to my pessimism. I don’t believe a person is going to make any difference. Revolution? Seems unlikely. Some kind of event that affects more Americans, especially the more affluent ones seems like one catalyst that’ll bring meaningful change. I ‘hope’ Obama will make a difference, but hope seems like a pretty weak thing to cling to considering what’s going on in this world. I also still can’t get away from the fact of how the democrats (with a very few exceptions) behave. I don’t believe that real change will come via voting.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:33 pmYou are right. The Dems cannot override the lameduck Bush vetoes so they cannot pass anything meaningful. You are also right about FISA and the telecoms. I hope someone runs against my corporatist Dem Senator Kohl so I can help him or her in any way I can.
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 13, 2008 @ 10:19 pm
That is too easy of an excuse. There are plenty of actual laws that this administration has broken, screw passing more of them, hold them accountable for breaking the current ones. Clinton lied about an extramarital affair and was impeached by the republicans – Bush lied about the reasons for invading Iraq which resulted in more Americans dead than in 9/11 and we simply ignore that fact.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:37 pm“That is too easy of an excuse. There are plenty of actual laws that this administration has broken, screw passing more of them, hold them accountable for breaking the current ones. Clinton lied about an extramarital affair and was impeached by the republicans – Bush lied about the reasons for invading Iraq which resulted in more Americans dead than in 9/11 and we simply ignore that fact.”
I am totally with you but the fact is right now the fact is if the Dems started impeachment proceedings right now it would be political suicide. They should have done it 2 years ago.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:40 pmAnd the fact is…doh.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:41 pmit’s taken me a good while to grow into his show…
February 13th, 2008 at 10:41 pmit grew mostly out of laziness because i’d have to stream the
alternative, thom hartmann on AirAmericaRadio (ed is jones radio)…
i just leave it on XM and am not pinned down at the computer…
anyway, his style is gruffer than i like, but he’s real and gets it…
ane he has good guests…
I liked him somewhat at the beginning, katy, until he went on his occasional rant against the base (or extremists, as he calls them)…that would be us. Plus, I can’t tell the difference between his voice and Limbaugh (shallow, but true).
February 13th, 2008 at 10:43 pmI also liked Randi Rhodes but her schtick got old. I guess that is why left-wing radio is not all that effective…liberals are easily annoyed :)
February 13th, 2008 at 10:45 pmI can’t imagine listening to a blowhard like Limbaugh for 10+ years. Righties will listen to anything, I guess.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:46 pmI am totally with you but the fact is right now the fact is if the Dems started impeachment proceedings right now it would be political suicide. They should have done it 2 years ago.
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 13, 2008 @ 10:40 pm
I’m not so sure about that. There was an online MSNBC poll that asked if Bush should be impeached, and 89% said yes with ~150,000 people voting. I know that this can be skewed somewhat, but that can work both ways.
I believe, and you can see very similar sentiments all the time in the majority of Americans, that most people in this country want similar things. But as Billy Bragg said about our rulers;
“While we expect democracy
February 13th, 2008 at 10:46 pmThey’re laughing in our face
And although our cries get louder
The laughter gets louder still”
“I’m not so sure about that. There was an online MSNBC poll that asked if Bush should be impeached, and 89% said yes with ~150,000 people voting. I know that this can be skewed somewhat, but that can work both ways”
I would love if they did but I personally wouldn’t take the chance. The Dems have a great chance to take the oval office and a mandate-worthy Congress. I think that would be more important for the future of the country. I am certainly not saying you are wrong. It might actually improve our chances. I wouldn’t take the chance if I were in power (and really, Bush can’t do any more damage).
February 13th, 2008 at 10:51 pmSabyen91 – i hear ya… all of it… can’t argue…
and if ed WERE a blowhard, i couldn’t listen either…
i am a talk left junkie, though… can’t quit… don’t want to!
(well, there are days… hafta change the subject or go insane)
time for my tv boys… see yas.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:52 pm:-)
Later katy.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:54 pmI also liked Randi Rhodes but her schtick got old. I guess that is why left-wing radio is not all that effective…liberals are easily annoyed :)
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 13, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
I don’t get to listen to left-wing radio AT ALL, but on my trips to Portland I tuned into the local lib radio station. I LOVE Rachel Maddow and Thom Hartmann! It was so wonderful hearing them saying the same types of things I’m thinking.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:55 pmI like Rachel Maddow a lot. She isn’t obnoxious, she is just telling it like it is. I like Thom from what I have heard on the internet but he isn’t on my station. I like Mike Papantonio as well. I don’t like listening to Bobby Kennedy though. I love the guy but it is painful to listen to him.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:57 pmBobby Kennedy sounds like he eats Brillo pads. Yikes.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:07 pmCharge with Inherent Contempt, put ‘em both in the House jail, threaten with torture, clean the floors, repeat…
February 13th, 2008 at 11:15 pmComment by Namtillaku — February 13, 2008 @ 10:33 pm
Looks to me that we have a lot in common. I’m neither depressed nor defeated
Good, I’m sorry that I misread you.
however, I just believe that something more drastic is going to have to happen before true change. Personally, I think John Edwards was our best choice as he was the only candidate who was talking about what mattered; limiting the connections between corporations & government, and the power of corporations.
Edwards was my choice of those who were running as well. My first choice is Finegold, who Sabyen has the joy of actually voting for. Now there is a man for all seasons!
But back to my pessimism. I don’t believe a person is going to make any difference.
True, but what about having both houses (in a major way) of Congress as well? That is what is going to happen.
I also still can’t get away from the fact of how the democrats (with a very few exceptions) behave. I don’t believe that real change will come via voting.
I think you are lumping all Democrats into one pot here. This distorts reality in my view. There are DINOS and DLC people that need to be replaced. These are the ones that have held sway since the DLC (read rethug lite in my view) was founded in 1985. Their purpose was to move the party way over to the right to “have a chance to win” by apeing the Reagun success. Called centrist, they are certainly not that in foreign policy. The DLC people have been “the voice” of the Democratic Party. Lieberman, Kerry, Clinton and a host of others have been running the Democratic show until the Progressives have begun to find a voice with the Dean victory as head of the DNC in 2005.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:16 pmAnyway the point is, that it is a segment of the party that is weak and needs replacing and we will have a much better functioning Congress. That is happening. Donna Edwards just won over a bad Dem. We should not condemn the party as a whole. Instead, work to change the Congress.
Hang em high, Johnny.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:18 pm“Bobby Kennedy sounds like he eats Brillo pads. Yikes.
Comment by Zooey — February 13, 2008 @ 11:07 pm”
Yeah, he has serious asthma which makes him sound like that. The guy is great but I still can’t listen to him. It physically hurts.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:19 pm“I think you are lumping all Democrats into one pot here. This distorts reality in my view. There are DINOS and DLC people that need to be replaced. These are the ones that have held sway since the DLC (read rethug lite in my view) was founded in 1985.”
Spot on. There IS a difference between the Reps and the Dems. Just look at the ammendment to the telecom bill. 1 Republican voted for it (Specter). 17 Dems voted against it. That means 33 Dems were right and 1 Rep was right (plus Bernie Sanders, of course). There IS a difference. We just have to get rid of the Nelson type Dems (Nebraska AND Florida).
February 13th, 2008 at 11:23 pmYeah, he has serious asthma which makes him sound like that. The guy is great but I still can’t listen to him. It physically hurts.
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 13, 2008 @ 11:19 pm
I didn’t about the asthma. Lordy, it must be bad.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:25 pmMaybe Conyers is starting to see the light. After the DOJ told him he was not looking into the authorization of torture he now sends off the contempt resolution.
If Mukasey spits in his face again he knows the only way to hold Bush accountable is by impeaching him.
http://www.democrats.com/
On Thursday, Chairman John Conyers’ House Judiciary Committee held a hearing at which Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that he would not investigate torture or warrantless spying, he would not enforce contempt citations, and he would treat Justice Department opinions as providing immunity for crimes.
None of this was new, but perhaps it touched something in Conyers that had not been touched before. Following the hearing, he and two staffers met for over an hour with two members of Code Pink and discussed activism and impeachment, including Congressman Robert Wexler’s proposal to begin impeachment hearings on Cheney.
Conyers expressed his concerns about what might happen following an impeachment, the danger of installing a Bush replacement or losing an election. But he said he’s listening to several advocates for impeachment, including Liz Holtzman and David Swanson of Democrats.com. He hinted he could be swayed by a convincing argument, leaning out of his chair for dramatic effect.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:31 pmLANGX, again, Conyers doesn’t need to see the light. He IS the light. Doesn’t really matter when Pelosi has impeachment off the table. What more can he do?
February 13th, 2008 at 11:37 pmUnfortunately, statutory contempt isn’t going to go. Mukasey has already testified in front of Congress that he won’t prosecute a contempt order against any current or former member of this administration for following orders not to testify to Congress.
The only thing that will work is inherent contempt, and I’m not even sure about that. If the Secret Service prevented the Sergeant-at-Arms from taking either one into custody, that would be that. The Sergeant-at-Arms isn’t going to get into a firefight with the Secret Service.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:31 amMeh. More impotent tought talk.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:42 am“Meh. More impotent tought talk.
Comment by sherifffruitfly — February 14, 2008 @ 12:42 am”
Yeah, leadership is certainly lacking in balls.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:02 amZooey @ 10:55 pm – my favorites too… and sam seder on sunday…
i do try to catch RING OF FIRE (kennedy and papentonio) on sat…
i didn’t know about the asthma, but figured some such problem…
wow… but, i’ve learned to tune that out because his message is
so great… and pap is so excitable, he cracks me up…
always informative and entertaining…
that’s all for me… just wanted to get that in…
February 14th, 2008 at 1:03 amg’nite.
When Conyers is confronted by the demand of the people, the only thing entrenched Conyers can think to do is get her arrested.
Conyers is a cowardly bastard who thinks of party first, country second. These minor shots across the bow to keep up appearances are as bogus as Conyers.
Dump Coward Conyers, “Off-the-table” Pelosi and “Biggest Pussy In US Political History”-Reid. From Rolling Stone:
February 14th, 2008 at 7:20 am
When hell freezes over, all these criminals will be tried and sentenced and locked up forever.
February 14th, 2008 at 7:27 amNothing will come of this. But, at least he is trying.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:33 amWhoopie. effing. doo.
Wake me when something actually happens.
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February 14th, 2008 at 10:00 amWhat exactly is the crime here? Firing US attorneys – for almost always political reasons – is not a crime. Believe me, I have no love for the Bush White House, but this is one “scandal” that I’ve never been able to grasp.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:34 amYawn… More pencil shaking from our deaf, dumb, and blind Congress and our fearful Judiciary committee chair. Oversight? Accountability? And, don’t say it, IMPEACHMENT. We wouldn’t want to hear it from Fox News in an election year now would we?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:14 pm