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	<title>Comments on: Conyers introduces Miers/Bolten contempt resolutions.</title>
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		<title>By: The Young Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Young Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn...  More pencil shaking from our deaf, dumb, and blind Congress and our fearful Judiciary committee chair.  Oversight?  Accountability?  And, don&#039;t say it, IMPEACHMENT.  We wouldn&#039;t want to hear it from Fox News in an election year now would we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn&#8230;  More pencil shaking from our deaf, dumb, and blind Congress and our fearful Judiciary committee chair.  Oversight?  Accountability?  And, don&#8217;t say it, IMPEACHMENT.  We wouldn&#8217;t want to hear it from Fox News in an election year now would we?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266668', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gamr</title>
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		<dc:creator>gamr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is the crime here? Firing US attorneys - for almost always political reasons - is not a crime. Believe me, I have no love for the Bush White House, but this is one &quot;scandal&quot; that I&#039;ve never been able to grasp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is the crime here? Firing US attorneys &#8211; for almost always political reasons &#8211; is not a crime. Believe me, I have no love for the Bush White House, but this is one &#8220;scandal&#8221; that I&#8217;ve never been able to grasp.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266480', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoopie. effing. doo.

Wake me when something actually happens.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoopie. effing. doo.</p>
<p>Wake me when something actually happens.</p>
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		<title>By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>IgnoranceIsNotBliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing will come of this. But, at least he is trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing will come of this. But, at least he is trying.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266314', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cats r Flyfishn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cats r Flyfishn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When hell freezes over, all these criminals will be tried and sentenced and locked up forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When hell freezes over, all these criminals will be tried and sentenced and locked up forever.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266311', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Conyers is confronted by the demand of the people, the only thing entrenched Conyers can think to do is get her arrested.

Conyers is a cowardly bastard who thinks of party first, country second. These minor shots across the bow to keep up appearances are as bogus as Conyers.

Dump Coward Conyers, &quot;Off-the-table&quot; Pelosi and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/18349197/the_chicken_doves&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Biggest Pussy In US Political History&quot;-Reid.&lt;/a&gt; From Rolling Stone:


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...congressional superduo &lt;strong&gt;Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have completed one of the most awesome political collapses since Neville Chamberlain.&lt;/strong&gt; At long last, the &lt;strong&gt;Democratic leaders of Congress have publicly surrendered on the Iraq War, just one year after being swept into power with a firm mandate to end it.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Solidifying his reputation as one of the biggest pussies in U.S. political history, Reid explained his decision to refocus his party&#039;s energies on topics other than ending the war by saying he just couldn&#039;t fit Iraq into his busy schedule.&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;We have the presidential election,&quot; Reid said recently. &quot;Our time is really squeezed.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Conyers is confronted by the demand of the people, the only thing entrenched Conyers can think to do is get her arrested.</p>
<p>Conyers is a cowardly bastard who thinks of party first, country second. These minor shots across the bow to keep up appearances are as bogus as Conyers.</p>
<p>Dump Coward Conyers, &#8220;Off-the-table&#8221; Pelosi and <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/18349197/the_chicken_doves" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Biggest Pussy In US Political History&#8221;-Reid.</a> From Rolling Stone:</p>
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&#8230;congressional superduo <strong>Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have completed one of the most awesome political collapses since Neville Chamberlain.</strong> At long last, the <strong>Democratic leaders of Congress have publicly surrendered on the Iraq War, just one year after being swept into power with a firm mandate to end it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Solidifying his reputation as one of the biggest pussies in U.S. political history, Reid explained his decision to refocus his party&#8217;s energies on topics other than ending the war by saying he just couldn&#8217;t fit Iraq into his busy schedule.</strong> &#8220;We have the presidential election,&#8221; Reid said recently. &#8220;Our time is really squeezed.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooey @ 10:55 pm - my favorites too... and sam seder on sunday...

i do try to catch RING OF FIRE (kennedy and papentonio) on sat...

i didn&#039;t know about the asthma, but figured some such problem...
wow... but, i&#039;ve learned to tune that out because his message is
so great... and pap is so excitable, he cracks me up...

always informative and entertaining...

that&#039;s all for me... just wanted to get that in... 
g&#039;nite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zooey @ 10:55 pm &#8211; my favorites too&#8230; and sam seder on sunday&#8230;</p>
<p>i do try to catch RING OF FIRE (kennedy and papentonio) on sat&#8230;</p>
<p>i didn&#8217;t know about the asthma, but figured some such problem&#8230;<br />
wow&#8230; but, i&#8217;ve learned to tune that out because his message is<br />
so great&#8230; and pap is so excitable, he cracks me up&#8230;</p>
<p>always informative and entertaining&#8230;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s all for me&#8230; just wanted to get that in&#8230;<br />
g&#8217;nite.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266295', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Meh. More impotent tought talk.

Comment by sherifffruitfly â€” February 14, 2008 @ 12:42 am&quot;

Yeah, leadership is certainly lacking in balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Meh. More impotent tought talk.</p>
<p>Comment by sherifffruitfly â€” February 14, 2008 @ 12:42 am&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, leadership is certainly lacking in balls.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sherifffruitfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sherifffruitfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh. More impotent tought talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh. More impotent tought talk.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266273', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jayjaybear</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayjaybear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, statutory contempt isn&#039;t going to go. Mukasey has already testified in front of Congress that he won&#039;t prosecute a contempt order against any current or former member of this administration for following orders not to testify to Congress.

The only thing that will work is inherent contempt, and I&#039;m not even sure about that. If the Secret Service prevented the Sergeant-at-Arms from taking either one into custody, that would be that. The Sergeant-at-Arms isn&#039;t going to get into a firefight with the Secret Service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, statutory contempt isn&#8217;t going to go. Mukasey has already testified in front of Congress that he won&#8217;t prosecute a contempt order against any current or former member of this administration for following orders not to testify to Congress.</p>
<p>The only thing that will work is inherent contempt, and I&#8217;m not even sure about that. If the Secret Service prevented the Sergeant-at-Arms from taking either one into custody, that would be that. The Sergeant-at-Arms isn&#8217;t going to get into a firefight with the Secret Service.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266269', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LANGX, again, Conyers doesn&#039;t need to see the light.  He IS the light.  Doesn&#039;t really matter when Pelosi has impeachment off the table.  What more can he do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LANGX, again, Conyers doesn&#8217;t need to see the light.  He IS the light.  Doesn&#8217;t really matter when Pelosi has impeachment off the table.  What more can he do?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266238', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LANGX I</title>
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		<dc:creator>LANGX I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Conyers is starting to see the light. After the DOJ told him he was not looking into the authorization of torture he now sends off the contempt resolution. 

If Mukasey spits in his face again he knows the only way to hold Bush accountable is by impeaching him. 




http://www.democrats.com/

On Thursday, Chairman John Conyers&#039; House Judiciary Committee held a hearing at which Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that he would not investigate torture or warrantless spying, he would not enforce contempt citations, and he would treat Justice Department opinions as providing immunity for crimes.

None of this was new, but perhaps it touched something in Conyers that had not been touched before. Following the hearing, he and two staffers met for over an hour with two members of Code Pink and discussed activism and impeachment, including Congressman Robert Wexler&#039;s proposal to begin impeachment hearings on Cheney.

Conyers expressed his concerns about what might happen following an impeachment, the danger of installing a Bush replacement or losing an election. But he said he&#039;s listening to several advocates for impeachment, including Liz Holtzman and David Swanson of Democrats.com. He hinted he could be swayed by a convincing argument, leaning out of his chair for dramatic effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Conyers is starting to see the light. After the DOJ told him he was not looking into the authorization of torture he now sends off the contempt resolution. </p>
<p>If Mukasey spits in his face again he knows the only way to hold Bush accountable is by impeaching him. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.democrats.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.democrats.com/</a></p>
<p>On Thursday, Chairman John Conyers&#8217; House Judiciary Committee held a hearing at which Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that he would not investigate torture or warrantless spying, he would not enforce contempt citations, and he would treat Justice Department opinions as providing immunity for crimes.</p>
<p>None of this was new, but perhaps it touched something in Conyers that had not been touched before. Following the hearing, he and two staffers met for over an hour with two members of Code Pink and discussed activism and impeachment, including Congressman Robert Wexler&#8217;s proposal to begin impeachment hearings on Cheney.</p>
<p>Conyers expressed his concerns about what might happen following an impeachment, the danger of installing a Bush replacement or losing an election. But he said he&#8217;s listening to several advocates for impeachment, including Liz Holtzman and David Swanson of Democrats.com. He hinted he could be swayed by a convincing argument, leaning out of his chair for dramatic effect.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266230', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yeah, he has serious asthma which makes him sound like that. The guy is great but I still canâ€™t listen to him. It physically hurts.
Comment by Sabyen91 â€” February 13, 2008 @ 11:19 pm&lt;/em&gt;

I didn&#039;t about the asthma.  Lordy, it must be bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yeah, he has serious asthma which makes him sound like that. The guy is great but I still canâ€™t listen to him. It physically hurts.<br />
Comment by Sabyen91 â€” February 13, 2008 @ 11:19 pm</em></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t about the asthma.  Lordy, it must be bad.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266226', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think you are lumping all Democrats into one pot here. This distorts reality in my view. There are DINOS and DLC people that need to be replaced. These are the ones that have held sway since the DLC (read rethug lite in my view) was founded in 1985.&quot;

Spot on.  There IS a difference between the Reps and the Dems.  Just look at the ammendment to the telecom bill.  1 Republican voted for it (Specter).  17 Dems voted against it.  That means 33 Dems were right and 1 Rep was right (plus Bernie Sanders, of course).  There IS a difference.  We just have to get rid of the Nelson type Dems (Nebraska AND Florida).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think you are lumping all Democrats into one pot here. This distorts reality in my view. There are DINOS and DLC people that need to be replaced. These are the ones that have held sway since the DLC (read rethug lite in my view) was founded in 1985.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spot on.  There IS a difference between the Reps and the Dems.  Just look at the ammendment to the telecom bill.  1 Republican voted for it (Specter).  17 Dems voted against it.  That means 33 Dems were right and 1 Rep was right (plus Bernie Sanders, of course).  There IS a difference.  We just have to get rid of the Nelson type Dems (Nebraska AND Florida).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266225', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bobby Kennedy sounds like he eats Brillo pads. Yikes.

Comment by Zooey â€” February 13, 2008 @ 11:07 pm&quot;

Yeah, he has serious asthma which makes him sound like that.  The guy is great but I still can&#039;t listen to him.  It physically hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bobby Kennedy sounds like he eats Brillo pads. Yikes.</p>
<p>Comment by Zooey â€” February 13, 2008 @ 11:07 pm&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, he has serious asthma which makes him sound like that.  The guy is great but I still can&#8217;t listen to him.  It physically hurts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266222', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang em high, Johnny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang em high, Johnny.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266221', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Namtillaku â€” February 13, 2008 @ 10:33 pm

&lt;em&gt;Looks to me that we have a lot in common. Iâ€™m neither depressed nor defeated&lt;/em&gt;

Good, I&#039;m sorry that I misread you.



&lt;em&gt;however, I just believe that something more drastic is going to have to happen before true change. Personally, I think John Edwards was our best choice as he was the only candidate who was talking about what mattered; limiting the connections between corporations &amp; government, and the power of corporations.&lt;/em&gt;

Edwards was my choice of those who were running as well. My first choice is Finegold, who Sabyen has the joy of actually voting for. Now there is a man for all seasons!

But back to my pessimism. I donâ€™t believe &lt;strong&gt;a&lt;/strong&gt; person is going to make any difference.

True, but what about having both houses (in a major way) of Congress as well? That is what is going to happen. 

&lt;em&gt;I also still canâ€™t get away from the fact of how the democrats (with a very few exceptions) behave. I donâ€™t believe that real change will come via voting.&lt;/em&gt;

I think you are lumping all Democrats into one pot here. This distorts reality in my view. There are DINOS and DLC people that need to be replaced. These are the ones that have held sway since the DLC (read rethug lite in my view) was founded in 1985. Their purpose was to move the party way over to the right to &quot;have a chance to win&quot; by apeing the Reagun success. Called centrist, they are certainly not that in foreign policy. The DLC people have been &quot;the voice&quot; of the Democratic Party. Lieberman, Kerry, Clinton and a host of others have been running the Democratic show until the Progressives have begun to find a voice with the Dean victory as head of the DNC in 2005. 
Anyway the point is, that it is a segment of the party that is weak and needs replacing and we will have a much better functioning Congress. That is happening. Donna Edwards just won over a bad Dem. We should not condemn the party as a whole. Instead, work to change the Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Namtillaku â€” February 13, 2008 @ 10:33 pm</p>
<p><em>Looks to me that we have a lot in common. Iâ€™m neither depressed nor defeated</em></p>
<p>Good, I&#8217;m sorry that I misread you.</p>
<p><em>however, I just believe that something more drastic is going to have to happen before true change. Personally, I think John Edwards was our best choice as he was the only candidate who was talking about what mattered; limiting the connections between corporations &amp; government, and the power of corporations.</em></p>
<p>Edwards was my choice of those who were running as well. My first choice is Finegold, who Sabyen has the joy of actually voting for. Now there is a man for all seasons!</p>
<p>But back to my pessimism. I donâ€™t believe <strong>a</strong> person is going to make any difference.</p>
<p>True, but what about having both houses (in a major way) of Congress as well? That is what is going to happen. </p>
<p><em>I also still canâ€™t get away from the fact of how the democrats (with a very few exceptions) behave. I donâ€™t believe that real change will come via voting.</em></p>
<p>I think you are lumping all Democrats into one pot here. This distorts reality in my view. There are DINOS and DLC people that need to be replaced. These are the ones that have held sway since the DLC (read rethug lite in my view) was founded in 1985. Their purpose was to move the party way over to the right to &#8220;have a chance to win&#8221; by apeing the Reagun success. Called centrist, they are certainly not that in foreign policy. The DLC people have been &#8220;the voice&#8221; of the Democratic Party. Lieberman, Kerry, Clinton and a host of others have been running the Democratic show until the Progressives have begun to find a voice with the Dean victory as head of the DNC in 2005.<br />
Anyway the point is, that it is a segment of the party that is weak and needs replacing and we will have a much better functioning Congress. That is happening. Donna Edwards just won over a bad Dem. We should not condemn the party as a whole. Instead, work to change the Congress.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266216', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Styve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Styve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charge with Inherent Contempt, put &#039;em both in the House jail, threaten with torture, clean the floors, repeat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charge with Inherent Contempt, put &#8216;em both in the House jail, threaten with torture, clean the floors, repeat&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266215', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby Kennedy sounds like he eats Brillo pads.  Yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby Kennedy sounds like he eats Brillo pads.  Yikes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266210', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Rachel Maddow a lot.  She isn&#039;t obnoxious, she is just telling it like it is.  I like Thom from what I have heard on the internet but he isn&#039;t on my station.  I like Mike Papantonio as well.  I don&#039;t like listening to Bobby Kennedy though.  I love the guy but it is painful to listen to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Rachel Maddow a lot.  She isn&#8217;t obnoxious, she is just telling it like it is.  I like Thom from what I have heard on the internet but he isn&#8217;t on my station.  I like Mike Papantonio as well.  I don&#8217;t like listening to Bobby Kennedy though.  I love the guy but it is painful to listen to him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4266205', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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