Maverick Fails The Test: McCain Votes Against Waterboarding Ban
Maverick Fails The Test: McCain Votes Against Waterboarding Ban
Today, the Senate brought the Intelligence Authorization Bill to the floor, which contained a provision from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) establishing one interrogation standard across the government. The bill requires the intelligence community to abide by the same standards as articulated in the Army Field Manual and bans waterboarding.
Just hours ago, the Senate voted in favor of the bill, 51-45.
Earlier today, ThinkProgress noted that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), a former prisoner of war, has spoken strongly in favor of implementing the Army Field Manual standard. When confronted today with the decision of whether to stick with his conscience or cave to the right wing, McCain chose to ditch his principles and instead vote to preserve waterboarding:
Mr. McCain, a former prisoner of war, has consistently voiced opposition to waterboarding and other methods that critics say is a form torture. But the Republicans, confident of a White House veto, did not mount the challenge. Mr. McCain voted “no” on Wednesday afternoon.
The New York Times Times notes that “the White House has long said Mr. Bush will veto the bill, saying it ‘would prevent the president from taking the lawful actions necessary to protect Americans from attack in wartime.’”
After Bush vetoes the bill, McCain will again be confronted with a vote to either stand with President Bush or stand against torture. He indicated with his vote today where he will come down on that issue.
John McCain: He was against waterboarding before he was for it.
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February 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pmWoo-hoo!!! McMaverick wantstatorture!!!
Whattapatriot!!!!!!
February 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pmWon’t see much to do about this in the corporate media. That is you won’t see the media talking heads using the words McCain and flip-flop in the same breath.
February 13th, 2008 at 5:53 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs
John McCain’s inspirational video. Had to share it with you guys. Enjoy it ‘my friends!’
February 13th, 2008 at 5:53 pmThe fact that this vote happened can only be to “pretend” that waterboarding was open to question, thereby exonerating Bush and his merry band of torturers.
Why do the Dems fall for this sh*t every time?
Waterboarding WAS torture, IS torture and WILL be torture. Period.
February 13th, 2008 at 5:53 pm“would prevent the president from taking the lawful actions necessary to protect Americans from attack in wartime.â€
See?? He’s a Wartime President.
It’s LEGAL because Chimpy McStagger sez so!
The US of A… right on par w/ the Inquisition, the Nazis, and the Khmer Rouge!
We’re No 1! We’re No 1! We’re No 1!
February 13th, 2008 at 5:54 pmAh, pandering to the subhuman scum of our population.
Politics before country, ethics, morals and what is right.
The right is just so wrong. Maybe a new term for them, the “Not Right”
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
February 13th, 2008 at 5:55 pmJohn McCain: He was against waterboarding before he was for it.
ZING! Nice work using a confusing statement used to confuse voters on John Kerry on John McCain.
February 13th, 2008 at 5:56 pmGod please someone dish up some justice in this country.
CONYERS!!! HEARINGS!!!! NOW!!!! We can’t wait for 2009. We must hold the guilty accountable, or we will lose all credibility in the world.
February 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pmCHOO! CHOO! THE DOUBLE TALK EXPRESS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!
February 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pmInsane McCain
No, we don’t need another dictator-in-charge, eight years is enough, thank you.
His stay in a Vietnam prison camp (another country we invaded without cause) is no qualification for president or any other position.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:00 pmJohn McCain – conceeding the moral high ground just like the Chimperor.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pmIllTakeYouToTaskForThatRemark beat me to the punch.
But it’s worth repeating, so I’ll say it too.
McCain was against waterboarding before he was for it.
I feel better now for saying that. (:-D)
February 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pmJohn McCain is FOR waterboarding? What? He talks the talk, but he never walks the walk.
It is a shameful day when a former POW votes in favor of the United States torturing the POW’s it is currently holding.
John McCain is engaging in the same campaign strategy which worked so well for Bob Dole. He is pandering to the extremists within the Republican party. Unfortunately, he’ll find as Bob Dole did that most Americans would like to elect a candidate who stands by what he believes in rather than a candidate who will say or do anything to get elected.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pmBoy, that sure surprises me. I guess he knows that he has to start pandering to the right-wing of the Republican Party. So much for the “Straight Talk Express” — it’s off the tracks and MIA.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pmI find it utterly amazing whose, and what, will be kissed by our esteemed elected officials to get some votes.
Whores are whores, regardless of the profession, and the only thing they quibble on is the price.
Mac, we are seeing your true colours bright and clear. Looks like the “Straight Talk Express” is officially derailed and replaced with the “Flip-Flop and Pander Special”. I can only wonder what you are going to say next to suck up to the right wing crackpots.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pmHe’s my Senator so I can send him an email. I hope his firewall is less sensitive than TP’s,
Pinche fcking whore.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pmUnfortunately, he’ll find as Bob Dole did that most Americans would like to elect a candidate who stands by what he believes in rather than a candidate who will say or do anything to get elected.
Comment by fletc3her — February 13, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
“Unfortunately”?
February 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pmI will keep saying this…..if ever and I mean ever the “ticking time bomb” situation ever happens then I would think those with the person who has information would do all they can to save millions. That doesn’t make torture all right or legal and I think they would accept the consequences. If the situation was real then they would go through the legal system and if it was such a grave danger the President could pardon those involved and accept the responsibility. It would finally be a good use of the pardon powers instead of getting “contributors” out of jail.
To essentially make torture legal is a stain on America that will last a long time.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pmWow.
McCain has sold his soul to Cheney for the vote of the rightwing bedwetters.
I wonder if they still thinks he’s a “liberal?”
February 13th, 2008 at 6:05 pmOne might now wonder if McCain the prisoner was tortured, or if he volunteered to talk? He has now apparently had it both ways. Since one asking to be president can no longer determine his own mind, nor remember if he was tortured or not.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pmhe should be perfect for the GOP. They only look at a candidates down side. They can run a traitor patriot prisoner senile old poop.
what is the betting line he squirts brain juice before the erection?
Wow. Always great to see a man of principle. A maverick! What’s the word I’m looking for? Oh, yeah: “scumbag”.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:08 pmI think you nailed it completely, Z.
McPhony is looking for votes.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:09 pmZooey, you beat me to it.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:09 pmSome of us believed that McCain sold his soul years ago when he supported Bush, but today’s vote proves it.
TRoS & Marie,
I can’t think of another reason why he’d sell himself out so completely. No one should EVER want a job as badly as McCain wants to be president.
It’s horrifying.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pmIt makes sense to me.
It’s not ok to waterboard white people,
February 13th, 2008 at 6:12 pmbut darkies… it’s ok.
McCain, who appeared disoriented after the vote, was last seen circling the Capitol before finally asking a passerby if he could lead him to the Doubletalk Express.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:14 pmYa know, nakmario, I understand yer comment, but truthfully?
I think it’d be fine w/ McStagger if white folk got waterboarded too… just make it CERTAIN white people…
February 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pmGreat men have greatness thrust upon them. McCain ain’t great.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pmHe’s not even neat.
He’s a slithering serpentine Bush psychophant.
I can’t think of another reason why he’d sell himself out so completely. No one should EVER want a job as badly as McCain wants to be president.
It’s horrifying.
Comment by Zooey — February 13, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
What’s horrifying to me are the results of polls in which McCain scores very highly as an honorable man–and this isn’t from the hardcore Right, but from so-called independents. And, specially what horrifies me is the astonishing ignorance required to hold that opinion. Apparently, such individuals form their opinions based on 15-30 seconds of “news” on the teevee.
If I was his mom, I’d be damned careful about being anywhere near moving vehicles, because this turd would shove her in front of the bus without a moment’s hesitation.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pmWould it be fair to say McPhony is becoming the man who put the “loco” in locomotion?
February 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pmAnyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,”
February 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pm-Senator John McCain (R-AZ),
Maybe Canal Zone John should move back there, but, oh dear, the Canal Zone doesn’t really exist anymore… It’s just a memory from our imperial past; oh well, McCain is happy in his demented imperial fantasy bubble, which is attached to the Bush imperial fantasy bubble… happy together…
February 13th, 2008 at 6:16 pmTRoS, perhaps the Pan in pandering?
February 13th, 2008 at 6:17 pmThe man lost his last chance to die with some shred of honor. Pitiful old man sold his soul to just get the right wing freaks to vote for him.
Maybe KKarl was right, maybe McCain did lose his mind in the POW camps.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:20 pmDear Mr. McCain,
It is not worth selling your soul, corrupting your convictions and desecrating my values for which you once fought for the opportunity to lose the general election for President.
Sincerely,
February 13th, 2008 at 6:25 pmAmerica
McCain seems to be a very conflicted, if not disturbed, individual. To me he exhibits the sort of personality that requires constant affirmation. I think the GOP is nominating a change from a president who’s hallmark is arrogance to a president of indecisiveness. Indecisive about his own identity and his own beliefs. This is frightening.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pmIt’s the “Payback Express” for the ex-POW.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pmI can go w/ that, RU…
So far we got…
The ‘Loco’ in locomotion…
The ‘Pan’ in pandering…
Anybody else got anything?
February 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pmAnyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,â€
-Senator John McCain (R-AZ),
Comment by Chris L — February 13, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
You must be confused. See, that was Candidate John McCain, the longshot seeker of the Republican presidential nomination.
The guy who voted today was Senator John McCain, the pandering presumptive nominee.
They’re two completely different people, as any fool can plainly see.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pmMr. McCain, a former prisoner of war, has consistently voiced opposition to waterboarding and other methods that critics say is a form torture. But the Republicans, confident of a White House veto, did not mount the challenge. Mr. McCain voted “no†on Wednesday afternoon.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pmYou sir , are a coward …………If you disagree , meet me on your own terms ……..I question your patriotism , and YES , I QUESTION WHY YOU WERE AWARDED ANY MEDAL WHATSOEVER……….
Damn you, Chris L… using McFlipflop’s own words to embarrass him…
February 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pmOne fact: More people died in Ted Kennedy’s car than died at Abu Graub. I think JoAnn Kopeckne was waterboarded.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:31 pmdear beltway journalists,
February 13th, 2008 at 6:33 pmlet this vote be the wake-up call that tells you that mccain is no longer a maverick. much like devin harris and jerry stackhouse.
love,
cha cha cha
“Waterboarding is torture and should be banned, …I believe that we must reject the use of the waterboard for prisoners and captives and cleanse this stain from our national honor.”
February 13th, 2008 at 6:33 pm“waterboarding is a torture technique – period.”
-Malcom W. Nance, former Navy instructor of POW and terrorist hostage survival programs and former advisor on terrorism to the US departments of Homeland Security, Special Operations and Intelligence
Fck off and die Bee.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:34 pmOne fact: More people died at Abu Graub than you are willing to admit.
Comment by Beethoven Rules
Sorry, fool, the beating deaths have been documented.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:34 pmThe press, who fell in love with McCains “straight talk” in 2000, Needs to confront McCain about this vote, and how it contradicts his previous position about Waterboarding.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:34 pmHas his position Changed? and if so WHY?
Apparently the Straight Talk Express is a catamaran.
-GSD
February 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pmMcain has really turned into the emptiest of empty suits. I kind of liked him in 2000. Since being against torture was one of his signatures how does he explain this. First he kissed Falwell’s ring, then GoPacs, who’s next Michael Weiner?
February 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pmKeep up the good work Johnie – you are giving (soon to be president elect) Obama lots and lots of ammunition.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:37 pmOne fact: More people died in Ted Kennedy’s car than died at Abu Graub. I think JoAnn Kopeckne was waterboarded.
Comment by Beethoven Rules — February 13, 2008 @ 6:31 pm
This is just flat-out stupid. Sheesh…
Also, it’s Abu Ghraib, you moron.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pmhe is obviously going to embrace bushco policy and run on it…
with rovian help, bushco will keep the fear going and hope to
scare enough people to vote “repuplican”…
they are well into the process… today’s reminder:
February 13th, 2008 at 6:39 pm“… Good morning. At this moment, somewhere in the world, terrorists are planning new attacks on our country. …”
…
Badger, I will be surprised if the television press questions McCain on this. This vote and this story don’t fit with their “narrative” on McCain. He’s the war hero, the straight-talker, the great man. He’s going to hitch his wagon to GW Bush and double-down, secure in the feeling that the main stream media will never question their existing narrative. The good news for Democrats and progressives is that the general public is clearly losing its trust of television media.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:40 pmThe Straight Duplicity Express has left the building.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pmThe poor troll is confusing Abu Ghraib with Abu in the Alladin movie, you know, the cute little monkey. Cute little troll, now go bye bye!
February 13th, 2008 at 6:42 pmmuzz, Obama has already picked up on this. If you listen to his recent speeches, he’s already referring to the “McCain/Bush agenda.” It’s a good strategy because it has the benefit of being true.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:42 pmIs there video coverage of the launch of the Straight Babble Screen Door Submarine?
February 13th, 2008 at 6:43 pmWhat a hypocrite! I cant wait to see how this gets spun for and against him. Keep digging my friend, it wont be long before you hit rock bottom and then get buried in November!
February 13th, 2008 at 6:45 pmComment by J — February 13, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
Too late!
February 13th, 2008 at 6:48 pmThe boomerang express. Bizarro John. One of the blogs should start a contest for a nickname to replace staight talk express-”my friends.”
February 13th, 2008 at 6:49 pmI’ve heard that there are already McCain drinking games. Every time he says “my friends,” you take a shot. It’s evidently brutal.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:52 pmAlthough I’m not surprised, I’m still disappointed. It’s sad to see someone hand over their soul like that.
Man, those presidential debates should be interesting. McCain’ll need an earpiece for sure!
February 13th, 2008 at 6:53 pmComment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — February 13, 2008 @ 6:52 pm
lol
February 13th, 2008 at 6:54 pmMcCain is a tool. The last thing we need in the White House is another fork-tongued liar. “The Straight-Express”? More like “The Double-speak bus”
February 13th, 2008 at 6:54 pmIs it my imagination, or does McCain sound a little like Peter Lorrie in the ’40s when he says, “my friends.” Creepy. And that rackish grin. The guy is just a disaster.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:56 pmTo support torture will be the “swan song” for McBush’s already disastrous campaign.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pmActually, i think he’s not actually saying “my friends”, he’s actually saying “my depends, i crapped my depends”.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:58 pmComment by katy — February 13, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Fear won’t work anymore. The neocons have cried wolf too often. That they still continue to use it is a positive, not a negative for us in my book. Look at how the country is pouring out for Obama and his message of change and hope! People want an upbeat message of inspiration and hope. Negative fearmongering, at this time is failing. Look at the Republican turnout in the primaries. Nothing is working for them.
So be of good cheer!
February 13th, 2008 at 6:58 pmCol Jack: It’s a condescending “tool” McCain uses. When he refers to the people as “my friends”, it’s to let them know that if he becomes commander in chief they will be anything but “friends”. They will be the adversary – just like we are with our own homegrown enemy within – the Bush Crime Cabal.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pmBozo: Good one! He’s been crapping in his Depends for a very long time. His skid marks are legion. Just ask his laundry chick – his wife.
Any truth to the rumor that his invasive melanoma has returned? Just wondering.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:00 pmMcCain’s Straight Talk really means the opposite, as Bozo said – He’s becoming a master of double speak. Just like he was against waterboarding and torture and now he’s for it. He’s one sick dude.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:01 pmwhatevah:
February 13th, 2008 at 7:02 pmSpeaking of his wife, what’s up with her? She looks like “Patsy” from “Absolutely Fabulous” all she’s missing is the Stoli bottle.
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/~pdeh/joanna_lumley_abfab.jpg
TRoS @ 51, you missed one: it’s also Mary Jo Kopechne, he (or she) moron.
I was wondering how more people could possibly have died in Kennedy’s car than in Abu Ghraib. Most likely BR just isn’t playing with a full deck so the comment was meaningless to begin with.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pmwhateva: “It’s a condescending “tool†McCain uses.”
Absolutely. He even uses it when he’s arguing with an adversary.
Merlin: “Look at the Republican turnout in the primaries.”
That’s an amazing indicator of what’s coming in November. In Maryland, 800,000 Dems showed up and 300,000 Repubs. In Iowa, 3 times as many Dems as Repubs showed up. In my county in California, which is not thought of as one of the lefty areas of the state, four times as many Dems showed up to vote as Repubs.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pmMcCain: Like Four More Years of Bush
February 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pmThe troll is not only a moron, but he’s mis-informed as well. At least 5 prisoners at Abu Ghraib have died during interrogations.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:05 pmMan it’s a DNC comeback dream. Welcome to the GOP that Karl Rove built. Old John really should have retired once Cheney & Co castrated him in South Carolina. Now, there’s nothing left.
The GOP is done.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:07 pmwell, ripper, figure it this way, if the best he can come up with is something that happened forty years ago tells you a little something about his intellect. I would wager he took the short yellow bus to school and spent the ride there making “booger art” on the windows.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:07 pmJohn McCain should have a lot to say on waterboarding and torture. After all, President Bush broke his promise to John McCain with his December 2005 signing statement accompanying the Detainee Treatment Act issued precisely to exempt the lawbreaking he had already approved.
For the details, see:
February 13th, 2008 at 7:13 pm“Bush Signing Statement, Gonzales Perjury Concealed Torture Policy.”
McCain’s apparently not only a sucker for punishment, he’s just a plain old Bush Sucker.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pmThe “lets have war with Iran” crowd loves this guy:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml
February 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pmWas this the quid pro quo for Bush’s support?
February 13th, 2008 at 7:20 pmTruth wills out.
McCain is NOT a patriot, but rather a broken down old man who believes in a political party more than he does in America and the Constitution.
He is pathetic – as simple as that.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pmcan go w/ that, RU…
So far we got…
The ‘Loco’ in locomotion…
The ‘Pan’ in pandering…
Anybody else got anything?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 13, 2008 @ 6:26 pm
The ‘Ass’ in assinine
The ‘Jerk’ in jerkoff
The ‘Fool’ in foolish
February 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pmI think McCain needs to have some very extensive medical testing. I do believe Dementia has set is. He’s not fit to be President! He’s already lost his memory, good judgement, and any assemblence of sense.
Of course, this may be exactly why Bushco picked him. They will have him select Jeb Bush as his running mate, and Voila, nothing need ever change.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pmThe ‘Ass’ in assinine
The ‘Jerk’ in jerkoff
The ‘Fool’ in foolish
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 13, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
The Ick in Prick?
February 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pmNice big smooch to Rush’s smelly posterior there, Mr. Ruggedly Independent and Principled. How’s it feel to kowtow to 3rd-rate wackos to keep you campaign alive?
February 13th, 2008 at 7:29 pmHe’s my Senator so I can send him an email. I hope his firewall is less sensitive than TP’s,
Comment by nanlichi
Anyone can send McCain or any other representative an e-mail. All you need to do is to make up an address in their city/state. Just get the city/state and zip right and you will fly past their filters. I do it all the time with Pelosi and Reid.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:37 pmThis is like the NAACP giving David Duke , the man of the year award .
This is like NASCAR selling Sushi .
This like like Bill O’Reilly passing a polygraph .
John McCain , you need your head examined . please don’ t want to be president .
February 13th, 2008 at 7:39 pmPlease flag the hate filled JK. If enough of us flag its hate speech, perhaps TP will finally do something about it.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:40 pmMcLame missed more votes in the Senate than any other Senator except Tim Johnson who suffered a stroke or something.
Finally, McLame shows up and votes well…McLame!!
I wonder if he’s willing to be waterboarded on broadcast TV to be prez?
I bet not because the geezer would die, right there on the air!
February 13th, 2008 at 7:41 pmComment by Aanya — February 13, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
I think McCain needs to have some very extensive medical testing. I do believe Dementia has set is.
You are too generous! He is perfectly fine mentally. No dementia here. What is overly apparent, as Zooey alluded to above, is the stench of desperation that surrounds him. Look, it takes a hell of a lot to go against his own experience of torture. And to obviously flip flop as he has just done after all these years is soul selling, plain and simple. He knows exactly what he is doing, and he is doing whatever it takes (in desperation) to win the WH.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:41 pmPlease flag the hate filled JK. If enough of us flag its hate speech, perhaps TP will finally do something about it.
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 13, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
Right on! And done.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:46 pmYep . . . McCain is sure hoping that if he gives enough blow jobs to the Right Wing they’ll vote for him. What a coward.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:48 pmmccain is whore of the worst order. He would sacrifice his children if it would improve his chances of becoming president. Perhaps worse than bush (although I’m not sure thats possible) mccain is another person with a lifetime of resentment built up for all the times he didn’t get his way or felt slighted. He would commit any literal or moral ethical crime imaginable for the opportunity to exact revenge.
February 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm.
Comment by katy — February 13, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Fear won’t work anymore. The neocons have cried wolf too often. That they still continue to use it is a positive, not a negative for us in my book. … Negative fearmongering, at this time is failing. Look at the Republican turnout in the primaries. Nothing is working for them.
So be of good cheer!
Comment by Merlin — February 13, 2008 @ 6:58 pm
y’know, merlin, i sometimes think the same way…
i’m much too cynical and pessimistic to “be of good cheer!” though…
but thanks!
just after i posted that, i had an epiphany… listening to rachel maddow,
which was the inspiration for that comment (and so many), so i have to post between commercials…
but, it occurred to me, for all the scheming and planning and doings to get a republicRAT into office, maybe, MAYBE, they are going to allow elections, there won’t be marshall law, and we will get back our republic…
just maybe…
’cause, if bushco thought it was all figured out, would they go through
all these motions? … is it for show?
oh, woe, there i go again…
February 13th, 2008 at 8:05 pmHA HA!!! These peole really do think we’re morons. Wow what an idiot.
It’s just a matter of time before God simply reaches down and makes an example of the Pharisees for all to see.
Again, it’s not about the torture. It’s about the greed. McCain is going to Hell where he will dine with Bush for an eternity~
February 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pmDon’t they know we listen to and record everything they do? Just like they do us? And they can’t hide from their very own words like in the days before instant information????
You know there is a whole brand spankin’ new generation of people out there who know they cannot lie anymore and get away with it. And this is driving these criminals out of leadership positions.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:25 pmDoes anyone remember the Keating Five scandal?
February 13th, 2008 at 8:33 pmGuess it’s kinda hard to stick to the principles you might have held BEFORE you went insane. Add dementia to the mix and you’ve got…well, John McCain.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pmLet’s be clear here. McCain voted FOR torture, nothing more, nothing less. There is no way to spin this otherwise and still be anywhere NEAR honest.
Let’s use that terminology then: He Voted FOR Torture… the VERY SAME TORTURE THE VIETCONG used to use.
The VERY SAME…
February 13th, 2008 at 8:54 pmYou liberal kooks are pathetic. Segments of our OWN (I know you hate them as you hide behind them) military are “waterboarded” during their training.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:59 pmWe haven’t waterboarded anyone in years but the few times we did we got important info that may have saved your anti-American pathetic lives.
McCain is not my guy (too liberal for me) so I have no dog in this fight but all this blind hatred of Bush and anything that might protect this great country of MINE is what is weakening us. Maybe you don’t give a rat’s ass what happens to your kids and grandkids…. maybe it’s ok with you if Muslims or Mexicans take over this country but it isn’t ok with me!
Just yesterday many of your own Democrats that have been raising hell about what they wrongly call “illegal wiretapping” woted FOR it. They do love to run their yappers to get dumbed down people to vote for them but several of them in the end actually care about this country.
You libs keep screeching for cradle to grave govt assistance and at the same time you accept the lie from your leaders that only “the evil rich” will pay for it…….. this from the rich Dem leaders such as Kennedy that work their asses off to hide their own money in tax shelters.
I am a single mother of 3. My husband was very abusive so I had to leave him but I made a plan, worked my ass off, and now have a decent job with 2 of my kids in college. I am not forcing YOU to pay for it so stop trying to tell ME that I should have to fund your new base group of Mexicans (legal and illegal) and their children. Your dem leaders are only sucking up to them to buy their votes with MY money and I’m a simple middle class working woman.
Do some research and get a damn grip, willya?
“We haven’t waterboarded anyone in years but the few times we did we got important info that may have saved your anti-American pathetic lives.”
More bullshit. You can’t prove it, can you?
“I am a single mother of 3. My husband was very abusive so I had to leave him but I made a plan, worked my ass off, and now have a decent job with 2 of my kids in college.”
Ditto.
Go back to Red State, they love your brand of unhinged lunacy.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:02 pm“Do some research and get a damn grip, willya?”
Comment by Feisty1960
Coming from someone who cannot prove their assertion, I find this hilarious.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:04 pmMcCain did this to appeal to the wingnuts. Too bad he’s going to lose, and then they’ll all blame him…
February 13th, 2008 at 9:06 pmComment by Feisty1960 — February 13, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
My. My! Such a rant! Feel better now, do you? OK then, try writing again and if you can do it without all the bile I will listen to you.
Otherwise you are just a worthless troll trying to create havoc. So what’ll it be? Eh? It is your choice.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:12 pm“more wars, more wars” + “i know nothing of economics” + panderer = 47% of the electorate
February 13th, 2008 at 9:15 pmThat person who “Feisty,” who drinks the rightwing cool aid is just sick. You can tell those dingbats when they start spew the rancid words of the right, without question. The amazing thing is how so many of them support policies that work against their own interest.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:18 pmIt would be so bad that if they fought coporate welfare at the same time they fight people welfare, but they don’t. They think it’s okay for the gov’t to give Exxon subsidies, even after they’ve had the biggest profit of company in the history of the world. Most claim to be christians, yet they live in fear of “islamo-facism.” Can’t be to firm in your religious convictions if you allow your own gov’t to scare you about an ideology.
Kids in college on federal loans, feisty?
February 13th, 2008 at 9:20 pmDrive your car on a road today, feisty?
February 13th, 2008 at 9:26 pmMacCocaine is becoming just like a Bush clone… He lies, he does not stand by his words, and always do the oposite from what he says… Please MacCocaine, take another photo with Bush for your campaign!!!!
February 13th, 2008 at 9:26 pmNice to be able to work a 40 hour week so you can raise your kids, huh feisty?
February 13th, 2008 at 9:27 pmMcloser would rather your hard earned tax dollars be spent to build iraqi roads and bridges
February 13th, 2008 at 9:28 pmEat some food and not worry you were going to die of food poisoning, feisty?
February 13th, 2008 at 9:29 pm“We haven’t waterboarded anyone in years but the few times we did we got important info that may have saved your anti-American pathetic lives.”
Wow, nice contradiction.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:36 pm“He was against torture before he was for it”
February 13th, 2008 at 9:44 pmOne word.
Whore!
February 13th, 2008 at 9:58 pm…all this blind hatred of Bush and anything that might protect this great country of MINE is what is weakening us.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:03 pmComment by Feisty1960 — February 13, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
Guess feisty got it all off her chest, so now she can go back to nursing her hatred, fear and selfishness, but golly, wouldn’t it have been great for this country of HERS if her revered leader had actually ordered the troops into Tora Bora to drag out OBL and the rest of the al Qaeda leadership, like ALL of America wanted him to do?
To the barflap freak:
Yes, I can prove it. Unlike you uninformed voters I know what is going on. i research politics all day every day.
>>The CIA on three occasions shortly after the September 11 attacks used a widely condemned interrogation technique known as waterboarding, CIA Director Michael Hayden told Congress on Tuesday.*
“Waterboarding has been used on only three detainees,” Hayden told the Senate Intelligence Committee, publicly specifying the number of subjects and naming them for the first time, as Congress considers banning the technique.
Those subjected to waterboarding were al Qaeda suspects Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, Hayden said. [The CIA's destroyed torture tapes, remember, documented the interrogations of Zubaydah and Nashiri.]
He said waterboarding has not been used in five years, but it was used then because of concerns of imminent catastrophic attacks on the United States and because authorities had limited knowledge of al Qaeda.>The White House comments came one day after CIA Director Michael V. Hayden testified publicly for the first time that the agency had used waterboarding on Al Qaeda suspects in 2002 and 2003. He also identified three prisoners, including self-proclaimed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who he said were the only detainees subjected to the method.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:05 pm“He said waterboarding has not been used in five years, but it was used then because of concerns of imminent catastrophic attacks on the United States and because authorities had limited knowledge of al Qaeda.”
Are you really that stupid? It took 5 years after all of that waterboarding to build a case? Christ, you righties are sheep.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:08 pmWaterboarding differs from other tortures, in history. A real risk post-torture is pneumonia, and death! There is enough public knowledge of this torture, that I must conclude that it is a sick, life-and-death, political game we are being forced to witness in the news. Public safety concerns have long characterized Progressive Republican’s like the Rockefellers, and McCain doesn’t even come from an urban state! They have no idea…
February 13th, 2008 at 10:18 pmShameful vote today, from Sen. McWar.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:21 pmEdgeOnIt. I would like to see a study done on victims to see what percentage suffer from PTSD from water torture as well. If PTSD is involved it clearly is covered under the UN Convention Against Torture so even if it isn’t covered under the Geneva Conventions (which it probably it).
February 13th, 2008 at 10:23 pm“We tortured them (in violation of U.S. and international law) but it was okay because our revered leader says we got results( the guy who promised there were WMD in Iraq and that he was going to smoke out OBL no matter what). I pulled a u-turn in oncoming traffic and caused a twenty car pile-up that sent five people to the hospital, but it was cool because I got to work on time. I’m old enough to remember when righties used to shriek about “moral relativism” as the greatest of all “liberal” evils. My, how times have changed.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:23 pmFLIP FLOPPER!!! Someone Swiftboat this McCain guy RIGHT NOW!!!
February 13th, 2008 at 10:28 pmhey – Obama campaign people-bros and sisters –
use this –
“John McCain: He was against waterboarding before he was for it.”
please use it.
thanks.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:29 pm“If I had water draining into my nose, oh God, I just can’t imagine how painful! Whether it’s torture by anybody else’s definition, for me it would be torture.”
-Mike McConnell, Director of National Intelligence
Anyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,”
-Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Republican Presidential Candidate
“Waterboarding is torture and should be banned, …I believe that we must reject the use of the waterboard for prisoners and captives and cleanse this stain from our national honor.”
“waterboarding is a torture technique – period.”
-Malcom W. Nance, former Navy instructor of POW and terrorist hostage survival programs and former advisor on terrorism to the US departments of Homeland Security, Special Operations and Intelligence
“The United States knows quite a bit about waterboarding. The U.S. government — whether acting alone before domestic courts, commissions and courts-martial or as part of the world community — has not only condemned the use of water torture but has severely punished those who applied it.”
- Evan Wallach, former Army JAG officer
“Waterboarding has been torture for at least 500 years.”
-Benjamin G. Davis, Associate Professor of Law at the University of Toledo College of Law
“Waterboarding is inhumane, it is torture, and it is illegal.”
February 13th, 2008 at 10:30 pm- Rear Admiral Donald J. Guter, United States Navy (Ret.),Judge Advocate General of the Navy, 2000-02
-Rear Admiral John D. Hutson, United States Navy (Ret.) Judge Advocate General of the Navy, 1997-2000
-Major General John L. Fugh, United States Army (Ret.) Judge Advocate General of the Army, 1991-93
-Brigadier General David M. Brahms, United States Marine Corps (Ret.) Staff Judge Advocate to the Commandant, 1985-88
Disgraceful vote by Senator McCraphead. The Founding fathers he professes to adore would be appalled and opposed.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:30 pmMcCain was a sane person before he wasn’t.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:37 pmHey Feisty, you know, we put to death the Japanese who used waterboarding against our soldiers in WWII, the last legitimate war MY country ever fought. Or is that only in MY history books and not in YOUR books? You know, the ones that teach about creationism?
Torquemada used waterboarding during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you read up on that all day & night, or is that only in MY history books?
Do you know why those cretinous (sorry, all you cretins out there; no insult intended) authorities in YOUR government didn’t know about Al Qaeda? Because they wouldn’t listen to MY outgoing government who WARNED them about Al Qaeda & OBL, Feisty. And you are feisty, I must say.
Did you notice that just recently, YOUR John McCain railed against torture & now he’s all for it? And did you notice that back in 2004 you hated flip-floppers but now you love them & would like them, especially if they’re 72 years old with all those yellow teeth, my friend, to be president of YOUR country?
You’re one sickening piece of garbage, old Feisty girl. I hope your kids aren’t haters like their mommy.
By the way, read up on Prescott Bust, Pappy Bush and the real story of Iran-Contra while you’re doing your research when you should be working.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:39 pmMcCain also thinks the president should be a Christian.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:43 pmSo, that would be a Christian torturer.
“Hey Feisty, you know, we put to death the Japanese who used waterboarding against our soldiers in WWII, the last legitimate war MY country ever fought. Or is that only in MY history books and not in YOUR books? You know, the ones that teach about creationism?”
Not to mention Americans were court-martialled (by the gov’t) in 1968 for it. And some hillbilly warden in Texas was sent to jail for doing it.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:02 pmSounds like some pretty strong precedent to me.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:02 pmDo some research and get a damn grip, willya?
Comment by Feisty1960 — February 13, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
Hey hun, do your kids accept Pell Grants? You’re not telling me you turn down free money — taxpayer money, I might add.
You’re not the only one to have had an abusive husband, worked hard, and put kids in college, so cancel your pity party and grow a soul.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:14 pmEvery time I think that the Democrats have hit bottom and can’t go any lower, they simply outdo themselves and sink more.
There seems no more room for disgust within me. The Dems aren’t worth shit. They sold our rights away. We have no defenses, we have no protections. The Dems in Congress aren’t there to protect the rights of us, the citizens. They have no concept of the vulnerability that we, who know what’s really happened, feel at this time. None.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:14 pmBushies say that waterboarding hasn’t been used for five years???
Believe nothing that the government says. They lost all credibility since the invasion of Iraq, and before then, the 9/11 events. Nothing but lies.
Believe nothing.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:17 pmThis is more than a FLIP-FLOP this is and outright misrepresentation of a position on an important Issue.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:18 pmI will NEVER believe anything he says again!
The straight-talk express has crashed and burned again! I knew this liar was no friggin good when he declared that marketpace in Baghdad “SAFE”-even though he and his crony stooge, Lindsay Graham,were being protected by 100 soldiers in full battle gear and with two Blackhawk gunships overhead! Yup, this liar even makes Mittens Romney look truthful!!! If you like Bush /Cheney, you’ll LOVE this lying fascist scumbag!!!
February 13th, 2008 at 11:23 pm“Every time I think that the Democrats have hit bottom and can’t go any lower, they simply outdo themselves and sink more.
There seems no more room for disgust within me. The Dems aren’t worth shit. They sold our rights away. We have no defenses, we have no protections. The Dems in Congress aren’t there to protect the rights of us, the citizens. They have no concept of the vulnerability that we, who know what’s really happened, feel at this time. None.”
So, you aren’t voting this year?
February 13th, 2008 at 11:27 pmMcCain says that the president should be a Christian.
So, that would be a Christian torturer.
(who would Jesus torture?)
February 13th, 2008 at 11:32 pmTo the barflap freak:
Yes, I can prove it. Unlike you uninformed voters I know what is going on. i research politics all day every day.
The CIA on three occasions shortly after the September 11 attacks used a widely condemned interrogation technique known as waterboarding, CIA Director Michael Hayden told Congress on Tuesday.*
“Waterboarding has been used on only three detainees,†Hayden told the Senate Intelligence Committee, publicly specifying the number of subjects and naming them for the first time, as Congress considers banning the technique.
Too bad you can’t prove anything. This doesn’t contitute proof. That you think it does is a sad comment on your cognitive abilities. You can’t prove this assertion, any more than you can “prove” your personal story. It’s all rhetoric – and lies.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:35 pmWon’t Fusty 1960 be embarrassed next year, when we learn it was all baloney?
February 13th, 2008 at 11:36 pm“Too bad you can’t prove anything. This doesn’t contitute proof. That you think it does is a sad comment on your cognitive abilities. You can’t prove this assertion, any more than you can “prove†your personal story. It’s all rhetoric – and lies.”
It is cute that he believes the 3 times BS, isn’t it?
February 13th, 2008 at 11:39 pmFeisty-you DESERVED the damn abuse because you’re so damn stupid! And you’re a bigoted racist,too! You probably watch rasslin’ on Mondaynights and still can’t figure out why the NASCAR crowd is so much smarter than you! Please have your kids enlist in our army so you can show them what fighting those “towel-heads” is all about!Fight ‘em over there-and all that GOP bullshit! We’re in Iraq for 2 reasons,fool-1. keep Iraqi oil off the world market2. Cause enough chaos there so BU$HCO and Company and friends can steal a trillion dollars from the American taxpayers-even you- without firing a shot at us! “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”-not America’s-but the Bush/Cheney war criminals’ mission WAS accomplished!! Get it,moron???Oh, and please forget to vote! Geez-you can vote and procreate-we’re screwed!!!
February 13th, 2008 at 11:39 pmComment by bocaboy — February 13, 2008 @ 11:39 pm
No one deserves that.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:52 pmIsn’t that nice! This goes to show McCain has no backbone. He strikes me as one with some serious mental problems. He seems to learn the politics of survival by going with the flow rather standing on some kind of principles. It looks to me the Vietnamese failed to teach McCain a lesson of life.
John McCain shouldn’t even be a senator let alone a president. This old fart would be in collusion with the military-industrial complex to hold the entire world hostage: they would create threats, instill fear among the ignorants (lots of them in America), then use fear to exploit money to perpetuate the evil machine of the military-industrial complex.
Imagine a world without these evil scumbags in the military-industrial complex, which serves no purpose in the preservation of peace and human dignity. They would lie, steal, and murder to get what they want.
John McCain is wired by the military-industrial complex that has managed to loot our nation’s treasures, create an intense suffering among the people of targeted countries (like Vietnam, Iraq, African countries and others in central Americas). If people still value TRUTH and wish to preserve and promote PEACE and PROSPERITY, stop listening to and buying into the lies and deceptions from corporate-America-controlled Republican government.
Bush has proved to be a disaster. He will always be remembered in the world history as one who is as evil as Hitler or worse. Bush has managed to destroy the image of the Republicans as much as that of America itself. So, McCain and other Republican candidates are wasting their money on campaigning for the White House. NO ONE IN THE RIGHT MIND WOULD EVER TRUST THE REPUBLICANS AGAIN!
McCain was finished before he even began.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:04 amDon’t worry, once he wins or loses the presidency, he’ll go back to advocating coddling terrorists.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe hates
intelligence
you may not gather it
let terrorism happen
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
let yourself be tortured
have water poured on you
or have fingernails torn out
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never use torture
even to save millions
allow them all to die
.
http://absurdthoughtsaboutgod.blogspot.com/
:)
February 14th, 2008 at 12:06 am.
It is dementia, irongate. If he becomes president I hope his wife is up to running the country.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:06 amBomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Funny stuff.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:07 amWith this vote, McCain proves to me, beyond doubt, that he is an unstable, craven little man who will willing compromise anything for a chance at the brass ring.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:12 am“With this vote, McCain proves to me, beyond doubt, that he is an unstable, craven little man who will willing compromise anything for a chance at the brass ring.”
Agreed…his opposition to torture was his one remaining positive. Now…it has because a huge negative. He knows torture is a horrible thing but he will support it to be president. I can’t even imagine Hillary doing such a thing.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:18 am.
I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE FORMER POW/TORTURE VICTIM OF NAM.
McCampaign votes to institute torture as an American Principle…
The former POW and torture victim voted to allow the mistreatment that he once trotted out for our sympathies.
BURN IN HELL JOHN!!!
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February 14th, 2008 at 1:38 am.
Comment by Feisty1960 — February 13, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
Now, now, Feisty…
I know your arguments:
1) The terrorists hate us for our freedoms…
Then why give them away so freely? Sounds like BushCo and his Loyalists(this means YOU) don’t care for them either, otherwise you would be in the streets fighting to preserve those very freedoms they hate us for.
~ Got a WARRANT?
~ Got Habeas Corpus?
~ Got innocent until PROVEN guilty?
~ Got Geneva Conventions?
2) The terrorists chop off heads, etc…
Yes, some of them do and others blow up innocent children and women. But really, using the misdeeds of the “ENEMY” as an excuse to violate laws does not distinguish you from that “ENEMY”, instead it draws you closer to that same path that “ENEMY” walks. This is a case where fighting fire with fire makes you an arsonist, where beating them is not joining them; where walking the high road is not following in that “ENEMIES” footsteps.
3) TORTURE WORKS…
False! TORTURE produces false and inaccurate results. Relying upon accurate(100%) information so as to save a populace requires reliable information, not information given so as to make the TORTURE stop. Say if you had a “SUSPECTED”(not proven to be) terrorist and TORTURED him/her and they gave up information that they were gonna detonate a bomb in L.A. – GREAT… RIGHT? But since you had captured them, the cell changed plans. How is that captured SUSPECT supposed to know that the cell changed the destination to say… D.C.? He won’t, you won’t and most certainly D.C. won’t. Who wins then?
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February 14th, 2008 at 1:57 amPouring water on people is nothing like the torture that McCain went through. Nah, that terrorist monkey Sheik behind 9/11 didn’t deserve to be treated inhumanely. Poor little monkey, boo hoo…
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never torture anyone
even if it’s only way
to save planet Earth
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
don’t be mean to terrorists
never make them fear for life
give them no reason to talk
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
treat terrorists like soldiers
include stateless actors
in Geneva Convention
.
http://absurdthoughtsaboutgod.blogspot.com/
February 14th, 2008 at 1:58 am.
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What John McCampaign meant to say was:
“IT’S NOT TORTURE WHEN AMERICA DOES IT.”
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February 14th, 2008 at 2:02 amThe ‘Ass’ in assinine
The ‘Jerk’ in jerkoff
The ‘Fool’ in foolish
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 13, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
The Ick in Prick?
Comment by RUCerious — February 13, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
February 14th, 2008 at 4:28 am————–
No, he puts the “ick” in “maverick”
The kikes LOVE torture. The kikes are backing the Straight Jewlover Express.
He has to obey his kike pig masters, OR ELSE!
February 14th, 2008 at 5:11 amHmmmm…Feisty1960 didn’t hang around for long, did she??
February 14th, 2008 at 7:28 amAnd we thought McCain would skip the vote. It was very courageous of him to violate his own most deep-seated core principles in order to pander to the blood-thirsty, psychotic, pro-torture, Christian right.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:34 amI researched the Bush TREASON for the last 7 years, and it stretches back 70 to when his granddaddy laundered Nazi money.
Thanks for mentioning that and you might add, Prescott Bush was party to a coup attempt that was to overthrow the US government in the 30s.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:38 amGoogle Smedley Butler….
Jojo the Dog-faced Boy is a very sick bigoted piece of crap.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:17 pm(Yeah, Jews like torture the way blacks like lynching.)
Fiesty1960(Comment #103) You are a sad case. You have all the right-wing talking points nailed down. Your paranoia and xenophobia are a tribute to the policies of your party.
First, if you’d done ANY reading, you’d understand that torture is extremely unreliable as a form of obtaining accurate information. What Bush/Cheney have claimed about gaining good information by using this method is simply another lie on top of a mountain of lies about Iraq, WMDs, tapping our phone lines, 9/11, the economy etc, etc, etc. They simply never tell the truth, ever.
I see that you’ve also bought the Fox “News” talking points about your tax dollars going to illegal aliens. Can’t argue that. I hate the fed turning my money over to the poor and disenfranchised.
Like you, I’d rather see them turn it over to multi-billion dollar corporations that send US jobs overseas! Oh, did I surprise you? How about this, Intel, which get huge tax subsidies is building a manufacturing plant that will put 4000 people to work, IN CHINA! Exxon-Mobil, you know, the guys who just reported $40,000,000,000 in profits is currently lobbying the fed for tax subsidies as “incentive” to drill for oil. How about Wal-Mart, surely THEY don’t take subsidies. Sorry but Wal-Mart takes huge federal and local tax subsidies THEN instructs their workers on how to apply for state medical assistance. Where do you think the friendly people who give you directory assisstance live? The one I spoke to lived in the Phillipines. Yet, guess who your friendly Republicans still give huge tax breaks to, yes, Verizon, AT&T etc!! Guess where my last xray was read? India!
Did you ever stop and wonder why there are 35,000 lobbyists in Washington DC??
Hint: NONE of them are there to give money to the government.
My friend, like SO many Republicans I know you JUST DON’T GET IT!!! The fed hands hundreds of billions of dollars yearly to mega wealthy corporations, and ultra wealthy individuals for what? So they can ship our economy to China??
February 14th, 2008 at 12:37 pmMy point is the next time you see an illegal alien receiving free medical care try and think about where most of the things in the clinic are made. Try to phathom why the federal government is NOT ALLOWED to negotiate with multi-billion dollar pharmacuetical companies for the lowest drug price, Try to remember that the vehicle he arrives in if fueled with federal tax dollars paid to corporations like Exxon-Mobil. Need I go on?
Why does my party try to force this wank on me? He lost before many time because most do not like him. There is not a “my turn” for president. I will definitely cast my Ohio vote but not for this warmonger. We need to save money and lives not spend them willy nilly on wars.
Conservative-conserve-conservation-not liberal=not McCain
deedeedee if you don’t get it
no nation building
February 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pmbuild ours
This is just plain spin. A big problem in politics is a lack of straightforward honesty. This blog on McCain is not accurate. McCain voted against the bill that had a provision that banned waterboarding, but that is not the reason he voted against the bill, which again was about more than just waterboarding.
His press release: http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=1863d120-d46b-b3f4-335c-bad46c47b725&Region_id=&Issue_id=1bd7f3a7-a52b-4ad0-a338-646c6a780d65).
I am not Republican nor a conservative, but honesty compels me to correct this blog.
February 14th, 2008 at 6:08 pmI have been trying to find a transcript of the interview with McCain on the Jay Leno show on 9/18/2001. He was a guest when the show reopened after 911. I remember him saying that USA would now need to use methods like torture and espionage measures that the CIA had been denied to deal with the event.
August 8th, 2008 at 5:36 pmAnyone remember this, or know how to find the transcript?
My friend, like SO many Republicans I know you JUST DON’T GET IT!!! The fed hands hundreds of billions of dollars yearly to mega wealthy corporations, and ultra wealthy individuals for what? So they can ship our economy to China??
October 15th, 2008 at 3:12 amMy point is the next time you see an illegal alien receiving free medical care try and think about where most of the things in the clinic are made. Try to acer btp-58a1 battery,acer aspire 1360 battery phathom why the federal government is NOT ALLOWED to negotiate with multi-billion dollar pharmacuetical companies for the lowest drug price, Try to remember that the vehicle he arrives in if fueled with federal tax dollars paid to corporations like Exxon-Mobil. Need I go on?