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Senate votes to ban waterboarding.

By Satyam on Feb 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

Senate votes to ban waterboarding.»

The AP reports that the “Senate has joined the House in voting to prohibit the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods,” approving legislation that would bring the CIA’s interrogation methods in line with the Army Field Manual.

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41 Responses to “Senate votes to ban waterboarding.”


  1. debkakes Says:

    Did McCain make it back to vote?


  2. Chris L Says:

    Does anyone know what the vote was yet? Who voted yay, nay, etc?


  3. bilbobaggins Says:

    Cue a Chimpy signing statement in 3…..2…..1…..
    Comment by robbez_92107 — February 13, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

    He’ll veto it first and then if his veto is over-ridden, he will do a signing statement.

    I wonder why Congress is even bothering to pass laws these days. They should just devote the remainder of Bush’s term to investigating all the crimes he has committed.


  4. bilbobaggins Says:

    Did McCain make it back to vote?
    Comment by debkakes

    I’m betting he will have some convenient excuse for why he couldn’t be there to vote. I certainly hope that Obama and Clinton came back to vote on the bill. Even if it passed by a large majority, I think they need to be there to vote on it just to put their views on record.


  5. nanlichi Says:

    He will sign this one. It draws a line in the sand for him to say that from now on, waterboarding is illegal, thereby implying that when he ordered waterboarding in the past it was legal. And I am sure that he can get by the next year without waterboarding somebody, or he can travel to our secret prisons to watch one when he gets hard up and there’s always snuff films to get his jollies.


  6. Fan of Man Says:

    6 people were found guilty of water-torture (boarding) during WW2 and were EXECUTED for their war crimes…. this vote was about as meaning as baseball players wasting congress time with steroid abuse….. we needed a vote to uphold a law ALREADY IN THE GODDAMN BOOKS?

    this country is so screwed.


  7. Mr.Bungle Says:

    It’s already illegal you ignorant morons.

    Impeach Mukasey for not prosecuting it’s use already.

    But then again, why would expect any of you to do the right thing?


  8. Zooey Says:

    …we needed a vote to uphold a law ALREADY IN THE GODDAMN BOOKS?
    this country is so screwed.
    Comment by Fan of Man — February 13, 2008 @ 5:26 pm

    It keeps ‘em too busy to find a table for impeachment.


  9. katy Says:

    I wonder why Congress is even bothering to pass laws these days. They should just devote the remainder of Bush’s term to investigating all the crimes he has committed.

    Comment by bilbobaggins — February 13, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

    exactly… have wondered this for many months…
    and have written the leaders and my reps about the same…

    they have wasted too much time talking to that republicRAT brick wall…


  10. Exley Says:

    #5 Well, Bilbo, McCain was there this morning to vote in favor of allowing the bill to come to a vote. Clinton and Obama were not there to vote then.

    Still waiting for the vote on the final bill. It’s not posted on the Senate Web site yet.


  11. DieNowForPeace Says:

    How sadly stupid. This country’s leadership is criminally insane, almost to a point that is laughable.


  12. Evergreen2U Says:

    Now…is the illegal and immoral torture that already occured subject to legal action…or is their immunity retroactive? . spit snarl.


  13. Buckie Boy Says:

    It is already illegal, and why is the war criminal Bush/Cheney not being pulled from office and going to trial for their war crimes?

    Oh, I forgot we are a lawless banana republic run by a dictator, my bad.

    Bush/Cheney
    Hague Trials ‘09

    Buck Fush


  14. Marie Says:

    She’s in El Paso, TX and he’s in Madison, WI.
    Even private jets might have a hard time getting their passengers to DC and back in a few hours.
    McCain has more free time these days.
    Altho, McCain and Clinton both missed a vote last week, and Obama made it.


  15. Uncle Ho Says:

    DING! DING! DING!

    We have an ealry winner!

    Zooey scores a bullseye @ 5:29 pm


  16. Uncle Ho Says:

    early winner


  17. robbez_92107 Says:

    Whirly inner?


  18. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    bilbo: “I wonder why Congress is even bothering to pass laws these days. They should just devote the remainder of Bush’s term to investigating all the crimes he has committed.”

    That’s their job and there ARE investigations going on. The new congressional session will begin about 25 days before Bush leaves office. With supermajorities, they could quickly do a ceremonial impeachment during that period just as Al Franken suggested in his last book. But, again, there will be no impeachment with these congressional numbers. Today’s republicans have no sense of decency or respect for the system and constitution and will not cooperate with an impeachment no matter what the evidence shows. They’ve already set historical records for obstruction of legislation. Why can’t people get that simple fact through their heads?


  19. RUCerious Says:

    This appears to be part of the Intel bill that grants retro immunity.
    I couldn’t find another bill in the Senate today that would deal with this…


  20. Repunklicans Says:

    DANG! Now we can’t use it on Bushie and Cheney!!


  21. Mr.Bungle Says:

    Ret. Col. Jack Ripper,

    “Today’s republicans have no sense of decency or respect for the system and constitution and will not cooperate with an impeachment no matter what the evidence shows.”

    Well said. Aren’t they supposed to be the party of Law and Order and Personal Responsibility?

    Libby walks, and all of these guys are going to walk to.

    I’m so ashamed of my countrymen over this. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.

    Hey Dems, let me give you some advice that will help further along towards a landslide in November.

    First impeach Attorney General Mukasey for not investigating the waterboarding that was admitted to by CIA Director Hayden.

    Then hold thorough investigations into this crime against humanity. Execute those repsonsible. (I don’t support capital punishment, but the penalty for this crime carries that punishment. Plus it’s the punishment we dished out to several Japanese military officers for using just this technique in WWII.) Then once you find out that the order to perform these tactics came out of the oval office, which there is no way it didn’t, then you can move for impeachment and conviction against Bush. Once removed from office, we can, as a nation that believes in the rule of law (especially those law and order Republicans right?) first convict him in our own courts, then we can send him and his cabal to the Hague for war crimes trials.

    Americans believe very much in accountability. Look at how pissed we all got when Libby walked. If they see that crimes were committed, especially crimes against humanity, they will demand that justice be served.

    I’m seriously beginning to lose the faith here. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE!?!?!?


  22. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    Mr. Bungle, the torture issue actually transends impeachment. They have violated existing U.S. and International Law, as well as some of history’s most important international treaties. War crimes trials are definitely in the mix here, or at least federal indictments from the new Justice Department next year.


  23. RUCerious Says:

    Disregard previous post, this is SB 1538, the telecom bill was 2248.
    Senior moment, no doubt…


  24. RUCerious Says:

    Note: On 10/03/2007, the Senate incorporated S. 1538 in H.R. 2082 as an amendment. See H.R. 2082 for further action.
    No wonder I was so damned confused…


  25. ucsbclassics53 Says:

    Let’s pass a law making murder, rape, and robbery illegal as well…hell we might as well pass laws affirming that things already illegal are OMG ILLEGAL!~


  26. Bob Says:

    I guess next Congress will try to forge a law banning cruel and unusual punishment. Then maybe they’ll write a law banning illegal search and seizure. Oh wait, I know, how about a law saying that the writ of habeas corpus shall not be denied? That would be something new: what a concept.


  27. RUCerious Says:

    Question: On the Conference Report (HR 2082 Conference Report )
    So the McCain vote was on the Conference report, which included the House part on limits.

    Chymp veto for certain, not enough votes to over-ride, so the FISA retro immunity won’t become law anyhoo…


  28. RUCerious Says:

    How about a law stating the chymp can’t break any laws?
    Executive sniveledge.


  29. fletc3her Says:

    We need to unambiguously make it clear that these technique are, always have been, and always will be illegal. The necessary followup is to bring those who have already tortured to justice so they can answer for their crimes.

    Hopefully we can put words like “harsh” and “enhanced” behind us and simply talk about whether TORTURE is acceptable or not.


  30. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Comment by ucsbclassics53 — February 13, 2008 @ 5:59 pm

    You know what I find disturbing here, ucsb?

    All those stories coming out about women working for Halliburton being rapes and then forced into arbitration… since when was a felony something that could be settled by “arbitration”?


  31. Marie Says:

    It keeps ‘em too busy to find a table for impeachment.
    Comment by Zooey — February 13, 2008 @ 5:29 pm

    I will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it.



  32. Marie Says:

    Comment by Mr.Bungle
    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

    Do you think that explains why the Bush family has purchased 90,000 acres in Paraguay where we have no extradition treaty?
    I don’t know if that is just a internet rumor; I have tried to research it further and can’t find irrefutable confirmation that the purchase was made.


  33. RUCerious Says:

    I will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it.
    Comment by Marie — February 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

    I will MAKE them a custom crafted OAK table if they would put impeachment on it!


  34. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — February 13, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

    Why can’t people get that simple fact through their heads?

    People are ruled, and run, by their emotional makeup. Not their logical thinking. When logical thinking is aligned with the emotional feeling, it looks like the decision and action is logic based. Most often it is not. The logical thinking simply creates positive window dressing for the emotional decision.


  35. pluege Says:

    but, but, but waterboarding was already banned by US law. shall we require 2 every law?
    .


  36. TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong Says:

    will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it.
    Comment by Marie — February 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

    I will MAKE them a custom crafted OAK table if they would put impeachment on it!

    Comment by RUCerious — February 13, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

    Well, I would swim to Thailand, find the sturdiest Teak tree, chop it down with a butter knife and hand carve it with a teaspoon into a beautiful all weather table so they could hold the impeachment outside for all to see! (now top that! ;)


  37. Uncle Ho Says:

    TRRIRR: Hell, I’ll cut the teak tree down with dental floss.(after swimming to Thailand using only 1 foot the entire way). Beat that if you can! :-)


  38. ucsbclassics53 Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 13, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

    only in Bushworld…this is nothing more than these cases being sucked down the corporate justice black hole…


  39. bernard quatermass Says:

    How are we going to identify the witches we need to burn at the stake if they outlaw waterboarding?


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