Comments on: Senate votes to ban waterboarding. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:50:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: batteries http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-5284220 batteries Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:09:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-5284220 Then hold thorough investigations into this crime against humanity. Execute those repsonsible. (I don’t support capital punishment, but the penalty for this crime carries that punishment. Plus it’s the punishment we dished out to several Japanese military officers for using just this technique in WWII.) Then once you find out that the order to perform these tactics came out of the oval office, which there is no way it didn’t, then you can move for impeachment and conviction against Bush. Once removed from office, we can, as a nation that believes in the rule of law (especially those law and order Republicans right?) first convict him in our own courts, then we can send him and his cabal to the Hague for war crimes trials. Americans believe very much in accountability. Look at how pissed we all got when Libby walked. If <a href="http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/asus/silver-w1000.htm" rel="nofollow">asus silver w1000 battery</a>,<a href="http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/asus/silver-w1000g.htm" rel="nofollow">asus silver w1000g battery</a> they see that crimes were committed, especially crimes against humanity, they will demand that justice be served. Then hold thorough investigations into this crime against humanity. Execute those repsonsible. (I don’t support capital punishment, but the penalty for this crime carries that punishment. Plus it’s the punishment we dished out to several Japanese military officers for using just this technique in WWII.) Then once you find out that the order to perform these tactics came out of the oval office, which there is no way it didn’t, then you can move for impeachment and conviction against Bush. Once removed from office, we can, as a nation that believes in the rule of law (especially those law and order Republicans right?) first convict him in our own courts, then we can send him and his cabal to the Hague for war crimes trials.

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]]> By: bernard quatermass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266316 bernard quatermass Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:36:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266316 How are we going to identify the witches we need to burn at the stake if they outlaw waterboarding? How are we going to identify the witches we need to burn at the stake if they outlaw waterboarding?

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266303 ucsbclassics53 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:59:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266303 Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 13, 2008 @ 6:11 pm only in Bushworld...this is nothing more than these cases being sucked down the corporate justice black hole... Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 13, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

only in Bushworld…this is nothing more than these cases being sucked down the corporate justice black hole…

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266083 Uncle Ho Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:42:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266083 TRRIRR: Hell, I'll cut the teak tree down with dental floss.(after swimming to Thailand using only 1 foot the entire way). Beat that if you can! :-) TRRIRR: Hell, I’ll cut the teak tree down with dental floss.(after swimming to Thailand using only 1 foot the entire way). Beat that if you can! :-)

]]> By: TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266068 TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:19:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266068 will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it. Comment by Marie — February 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm I will MAKE them a custom crafted OAK table if they would put impeachment on it! Comment by RUCerious — February 13, 2008 @ 6:46 pm Well, I would swim to Thailand, find the sturdiest Teak tree, chop it down with a butter knife and hand carve it with a teaspoon into a beautiful all weather table so they could hold the impeachment outside for all to see! (now top that! ;) will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it.
Comment by Marie — February 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

I will MAKE them a custom crafted OAK table if they would put impeachment on it!

Comment by RUCerious — February 13, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

Well, I would swim to Thailand, find the sturdiest Teak tree, chop it down with a butter knife and hand carve it with a teaspoon into a beautiful all weather table so they could hold the impeachment outside for all to see! (now top that! ;)

]]> By: pluege http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266063 pluege Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:10:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266063 but, but, but waterboarding was already banned by US law. shall we require 2 every law? . but, but, but waterboarding was already banned by US law. shall we require 2 every law?
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]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266039 Merlin Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:28:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266039 Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — February 13, 2008 @ 5:47 pm <em>Why can’t people get that simple fact through their heads?</em> People are ruled, and run, by their emotional makeup. Not their logical thinking. When logical thinking is aligned with the emotional feeling, it looks like the decision and action is logic based. Most often it is not. The logical thinking simply creates positive window dressing for the emotional decision. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — February 13, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

Why can’t people get that simple fact through their heads?

People are ruled, and run, by their emotional makeup. Not their logical thinking. When logical thinking is aligned with the emotional feeling, it looks like the decision and action is logic based. Most often it is not. The logical thinking simply creates positive window dressing for the emotional decision.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4266002 RUCerious Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:46:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4266002 <em>I will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it. Comment by Marie — February 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm</em> I will MAKE them a custom crafted OAK table if they would put impeachment on it! I will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it.
Comment by Marie — February 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

I will MAKE them a custom crafted OAK table if they would put impeachment on it!

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265960 Marie Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:16:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265960 Comment by Mr.Bungle Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Do you think that explains why the Bush family has purchased 90,000 acres in Paraguay where we have no extradition treaty? I don't know if that is just a internet rumor; I have tried to research it further and can't find irrefutable confirmation that the purchase was made. Comment by Mr.Bungle
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

Do you think that explains why the Bush family has purchased 90,000 acres in Paraguay where we have no extradition treaty?
I don’t know if that is just a internet rumor; I have tried to research it further and can’t find irrefutable confirmation that the purchase was made.

]]> By: JPV http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265953 JPV Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:13:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265953 AIPAC AIPAC

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265951 Marie Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:12:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265951 It keeps ‘em too busy to find a table for impeachment. Comment by Zooey — February 13, 2008 @ 5:29 pm I will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it. It keeps ‘em too busy to find a table for impeachment.
Comment by Zooey — February 13, 2008 @ 5:29 pm

I will BUY them a table if they would put impeachment on it.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265948 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:11:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265948 Comment by ucsbclassics53 — February 13, 2008 @ 5:59 pm You know what I find disturbing here, ucsb? All those stories coming out about women working for Halliburton being rapes and then forced into arbitration... since when was a felony something that could be settled by "arbitration"? Comment by ucsbclassics53 — February 13, 2008 @ 5:59 pm

You know what I find disturbing here, ucsb?

All those stories coming out about women working for Halliburton being rapes and then forced into arbitration… since when was a felony something that could be settled by “arbitration”?

]]> By: fletc3her http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265943 fletc3her Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:09:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265943 We need to unambiguously make it clear that these technique are, always have been, and always will be illegal. The necessary followup is to bring those who have already tortured to justice so they can answer for their crimes. Hopefully we can put words like "harsh" and "enhanced" behind us and simply talk about whether TORTURE is acceptable or not. We need to unambiguously make it clear that these technique are, always have been, and always will be illegal. The necessary followup is to bring those who have already tortured to justice so they can answer for their crimes.

Hopefully we can put words like “harsh” and “enhanced” behind us and simply talk about whether TORTURE is acceptable or not.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265930 RUCerious Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:03:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265930 How about a law stating the chymp can't break any laws? Executive sniveledge. How about a law stating the chymp can’t break any laws?
Executive sniveledge.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265927 RUCerious Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:02:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265927 Question: On the Conference Report (HR 2082 Conference Report ) So the McCain vote was on the Conference report, which included the House part on limits. Chymp veto for certain, not enough votes to over-ride, so the FISA retro immunity won't become law anyhoo... Question: On the Conference Report (HR 2082 Conference Report )
So the McCain vote was on the Conference report, which included the House part on limits.

Chymp veto for certain, not enough votes to over-ride, so the FISA retro immunity won’t become law anyhoo…

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265924 Bob Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:01:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265924 I guess next Congress will try to forge a law banning cruel and unusual punishment. Then maybe they'll write a law banning illegal search and seizure. Oh wait, I know, how about a law saying that the writ of habeas corpus shall not be denied? That would be something new: what a concept. I guess next Congress will try to forge a law banning cruel and unusual punishment. Then maybe they’ll write a law banning illegal search and seizure. Oh wait, I know, how about a law saying that the writ of habeas corpus shall not be denied? That would be something new: what a concept.

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265916 ucsbclassics53 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:59:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265916 Let's pass a law making murder, rape, and robbery illegal as well...hell we might as well pass laws affirming that things already illegal are OMG ILLEGAL!~ Let’s pass a law making murder, rape, and robbery illegal as well…hell we might as well pass laws affirming that things already illegal are OMG ILLEGAL!~

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265915 RUCerious Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:58:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265915 Note: On 10/03/2007, the Senate incorporated S. 1538 in H.R. 2082 as an amendment. See H.R. 2082 for further action. No wonder I was so damned confused... Note: On 10/03/2007, the Senate incorporated S. 1538 in H.R. 2082 as an amendment. See H.R. 2082 for further action.
No wonder I was so damned confused…

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265908 RUCerious Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:56:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265908 Disregard previous post, this is SB 1538, the telecom bill was 2248. Senior moment, no doubt... Disregard previous post, this is SB 1538, the telecom bill was 2248.
Senior moment, no doubt…

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/comment-page-1/#comment-4265906 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:55:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/senate-votes-to-ban-waterboarding/#comment-4265906 Mr. Bungle, the torture issue actually transends impeachment. They have violated existing U.S. and International Law, as well as some of history's most important international treaties. War crimes trials are definitely in the mix here, or at least federal indictments from the new Justice Department next year. Mr. Bungle, the torture issue actually transends impeachment. They have violated existing U.S. and International Law, as well as some of history’s most important international treaties. War crimes trials are definitely in the mix here, or at least federal indictments from the new Justice Department next year.

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