Rice Lies To Wexler About Making False Statements Before The Iraq War
Rice Lies To Wexler About Making False Statements Before The Iraq War
Last month, the Center for Public Integrity and the Fund for Independence in Journalism released a study finding that the Bush administration made “at least 935 false statements” preceding the invasion of Iraq. Condoleezza Rice, who served as National Security Adviser at the time, made 56 false statements.
During a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing yesterday, Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) pressed Rice to explain the inconsistencies, asking “isn’t it true that you had intelligence that cast doubt on your repeated claims?” “No, it’s not true,” replied Rice tersely.
Wexler then pointed out that Rice was lying when she said it was “not true” and that there had been “intelligence that cast doubt” on the administration’s pre-war claims:
WEXLER: I simply asked if you had intelligence that was contrary to the intelligence that you reported repeatedly to the American people…
RICE: Congressman, I would…
WEXLER: … that Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction.
RICE: Congressman, I would suggest that you go back and read the key judgments of 2002. I think that will answer your question.
WEXLER: Yes. And the answer to the question, Madam Secretary, is that, in fact, there were contrary reports. You chose to weigh the reports.
Watch it:
In 2001, Rice argued, “We are able to keep arms from [Saddam]. His military forces have not been rebuilt.” In the lead-up to war, she began making the opposite case.
In her response yesterday, Rice conceded that there was “disagreement” in the intelligence community about “whether or not” Iraq “had reconstituted their nuclear weapons program.” But in 2002, Rice emphatically stated there was no doubt about the intelligence:
RICE: We do know that he is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. We do know that there have been shipments going into Iran, for instance — into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that really are only suited to — high-quality aluminum tools that are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.
In fact, the potential use of the aluminum tubes was one of the main points of disagreement within the intelligence community. According to the New York Times, “almost a year before” Rice made her statement on the tubes, her “staff had been told that the government’s foremost nuclear experts seriously doubted that the tubes were for nuclear weapons.” “Ms. Rice knew about the debate,” the paper reported.
Transcript:
WEXLER: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.Madam Secretary, over the past month, startling revelations have come forward that specifically relate to your conduct prior to 9/11 and in the run-up to the war in Iraq.
A recently released study by the nonpartisan Center for Public Integrity revealed that you, along with President Bush and top administration officials made a total of 935 false public statements in an orchestrated attempt to take this nation to war.
Here’s a stack of these false statements right here, all 935 of them. This study has found that you, Madam Secretary, made 56 false statements to the American people, where you repeatedly pump up the case that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and exaggerate the so- called relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida.
Madam Secretary, can you please tell us, isn’t it true that you had intelligence that cast doubt on your repeated claims that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction?
RICE: No, it’s not true, Congressman. With all due respect, I think if you look back at the key judgments of the intelligence estimate about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, you will see that those judgments supported the views of many intelligence agencies worldwide, the views of the United Nations inspectors that Iraq must have been hiding something.
Our own intelligence estimate said that Iraq had reconstituted its biological weapons program, its chemical weapons program, and the only disagreement with whether or not they had reconstituted their nuclear weapons program, although there were certainly elements, including the CIA, that believed that they were in the process of doing so.
Now, Congressman, I take my integrity very seriously and I did not at any time make a statement that I knew to be false or that I thought to be false in order to pump up anything. Nobody wants to go to war.
Saddam Hussein was a threat to this country. We had gone to war against him in 1991. President Clinton had gone to war against him in 1998. We were in a state of war with him. This was a cessation of hostilities, not an armistice, because let’s remember that our pilots were actually flying missions, southern watch and northern watch, and being shot at by his air defenses.
And so, I’m sorry, Congressman, because you’ve questioned my integrity, I ask you to let me respond. Now, we have learned that many of the intelligence assessments were wrong. There have been many, many investigations of that, including Senate Select Intelligence and a number of others, and we have gone to extraordinary lengths to reform our intelligence agencies so that they can make better assessments of situations in which you have nontransparent governments that will not answer the just demands of an international community that had sanctioned and had resolutions against Saddam Hussein several times.
WEXLER: Madam Secretary, if I may…
RICE: So, no, Congressman, at no time did I intend to or do I believe that I did…
WEXLER: I simply asked…
(CROSSTALK)
RICE: … put forward false information to the American people.
WEXLER: I simply asked if you had intelligence that was contrary to the intelligence that you reported repeatedly to the American people…
RICE: Congressman, I would…
WEXLER: … that Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction.
RICE: Congressman, I would suggest that you go back and read the key judgments of 2002. I think that will answer your question.
WEXLER: Yes. And the answer to the question, Madam Secretary, is that, in fact, there were contrary reports. You chose to weigh the reports…
RICE: Congressman…
WEXLER: … that supported your…
RICE: No, Congressman…
(CROSSTALK)
… I chose to use — Congressman, I chose to use — Congressman, I’m sorry, I’m going to answer this.
Congressman, I chose to use what every administration uses, which is the collective wisdom of the intelligence community that is in a national intelligence estimate.
I, again, ask you to go back and read the key judgments from 2002 about the state of Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs and I think you will see that it was the judgment of the intelligence community as a whole that he had reconstituted his biological weapons program, reconstituted his chemical weapons program, and was seeking to do so with his nuclear weapons program, and might do so within a year if he got foreign assistance.
That was the collective wisdom of the intelligence community. I will be the first to say that it was not right.
WEXLER: Madam Secretary, unfortunately, the American people were denied the opportunity to hear the other side. You may have, rightfully or wrongfully, reached your conclusion, but a legitimate question is why weren’t the American people told that there was contrary intelligence.
RICE: Congressman, I am sorry, I sat through the briefings for the Congress and for the Senate, done by the intelligence community. We were there to provide policy advice, but either George Tenet or John McLaughlin or others gave those briefings.
And, Congressman, the American people were told what their intelligence community as a whole believed to be the assessment concerning Iraq’s programs.
I just want to repeat to you that not only was it our intelligence community, there were other intelligence communities that believed the same. If we didn’t believe that, it’s very strange that we put Iraq under several Security Council resolutions, numbering 16 or 17, demanding that Saddam Hussein answer for his weapons of mass destruction program, that the Resolution 1441, which was a unanimous resolution of the Security Council, saying that he had to answer for his weapons of mass destruction programs.
I’d be the first to say the intelligence was not right and we’ve gone to great lengths to reorganize it so that we can have better intelligence.
But to claim, Congressman, that there were other things that we somehow hid from the American people is simply not right.
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Can you imagine the kind of government we’d have if all of our reps were as principled and courageous as Wexler and Feingold?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:06 pmCredit to Mr. Wexler, but hearing after hearing, committee after committee and nothing gets accomplished. When will someone come out and say, You Lied and 3960 of our military have died. Where is the punishment?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:10 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — February 14, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Yes, imagine principled public servants. Not Crony capitalists that are only looking out for big business interests instead of ALL the people. Principled public servants that believe in our Constitution and the Rule of LAW instead of the Rule of MEN.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:11 pmSo when the HELL is someone going to slap that beeyotch with a perjury charge??
Those bastards ALL belong in PRISON.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:12 pmThe truth is no impediment to the Bush patriots… nor is the law… nor is the vote of the people.
They lie for a living, it doesn’t bother them, why is congress upset - can’t they just get that Bush spirit?
I suggest they have the AG water board Condi to get the truth… oh that won’t work she’s not a liberal or a democrat - sorry, different rules apply.
Better go ask Bush what the law says today… whip out a quick signing statement…
February 14th, 2008 at 1:13 pmThe whole story that there were conflicting intelligence assessments is itself a ruse.
What you had is some brown-nosing bureaucrats in the CIA with no expertise in nuclear physics whatsoever contradicting the nuclear physicists at the DOE. This is not about picking the wrong experts, the experts were all on the same side - the tubes could not be used in a centrifuge.
Moreover, and this is key, other intelligence analysts confirmed that these tubes were the EXACT SAME SPECIFICATIONS as the artillery rockets the Iraqis had produced in the past. No one can blame the administration for not trusting the Iraqi’s initial explanation as to the intended use of the tubes, but in this case that explanation was categorically confirmed.
The seminal report on all this remains this one from 60 Minutes:
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2003/ 10/ 14/ 60II/ main577975.shtml
February 14th, 2008 at 1:14 pmThis calls for a sternly worded letter!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 1:14 pmA little black humor, can you imagine being a White House lawyer ? I bet some of them never get home.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm.
Clearly Rice meant to say that the report was a lie…
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February 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pmGreat, now throw her in jail for comtept of congress, or waste more time looking tough with former jocks.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pmWith Lots of Exclamation Points!!, and Capital Letters, too!!!!
Preferably on a good grade of expensive paper, w/ a fancy letterhead, to boot.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pmI wish he had continued this line of BS, and SHOWED her the documents in question, thus proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that she’s a lying sycophant.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pmThis calls for a sternly worded letter!!!
Comment by OptimisticMF — February 14, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
…but not right away. No sense in rushing these things.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:18 pmHey, I’ve got a great idea!
I think rice would make a great vp running mate for the republic party.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:19 pmFried Rice.
No one in this criminal administration has been able to tell the truth about anything.
I didn’t…I don’t recall…executive privilege…I can’t remember…I never received that memo on Bin Laden…we weren’t told about that…f()ck you…etc.
Lock em up, throw away the key.
Bush/Cheney/Rice
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
February 14th, 2008 at 1:21 pmLibertylover - I can’t even imagine having representatives with integrity, choosing to actually follow the law of the land. The corruption in Washington becomes the norm for even the ones with the best intentions.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:23 pmAnd I thought Roger Clemens looked bad trying to cover his posterior…..
February 14th, 2008 at 1:25 pmThese people are simply incapable of telling the truth.
May god have mercy on their souls.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:26 pmDidn’t used to be against the law to lie to Congress?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:26 pmthrow her lying *ss in jail.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:27 pmNo one in this criminal administration has been able to tell the truth about anything.
Comment by Buckie Boy — February 14, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
Now that’s not fair, Buckie. It’s entirely possible that are able to tell the truth but choose not to, since the truth would get them all in a lot of trouble.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pmIsn’t it ironic that a baseball player gets called an outright liar several times during yesterday’s hearing but Administration officials whose crimes far overshadow cheating in a game can lie with impunity and they are treated with the utmost respect and even given extra time to review their testimony and make changes to their sworn testimony so that their lies can be wiped away? There has been chatter suggesting that criminal charges may be brought against ball players but the current Administration can ignore subpoenas and lie and contradict their previous lies over and over with no consequences. This nation’s priorities are completely ass-backwards when cheating in a game is more important than lyeing us into endless war, illegally torturing detainees, outing covert agents, politicising every branch of gov’t, destroying evidence, obstructing justice and all the other underhanded shit that these criminals can think up to subvert and defraud our Nation.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pmOOPS! I meant, didn’t it used to be against the law to lie to Congress?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pmCondi Rice is a pathological liar. Not to mention totally incompetent.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pmCondi Rice is a pathological liar. Not to mention totally incompetent.
Comment by VerbalKint
On the contrary, she is a very competent liar.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:31 pmFebruary 14th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
the truth would get them all in a lot of trouble.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
LOL, so true, so true.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:33 pmArrest this WAR CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 1:35 pmI hate to change the subject but cannot understand why TP isn’t onto the story about how the Republicans disrupted Lantos memorial service!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 1:35 pmhttp://www. americablog.com.
This is big!
So, if two negatives make a positive then two lies must make a truth, right?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:35 pmThat would appear to be the righties’ most fervent hope and wish, badmooDman…
February 14th, 2008 at 1:37 pm#28 Dharma ~ these bastards have NO shame.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:38 pmRICE: Congressman Wexler - we were trying to SELL a WAR - why are you hassling me about that - do you begrudge a Used Car Salesman when he only talks up the good points of a lemon? Wait wait.. not a good analogy….
February 14th, 2008 at 1:39 pmLllamita! Excellent and very funny comments! I’m with you! I also liked the ‘A patriot acting’… what a great name!
February 14th, 2008 at 1:40 pmFrank Merda is back!
February 14th, 2008 at 1:41 pm21 - Patriot - AMEN TO YOUR COMMENT. Five hours some of which was televised regarding steriod use. How did this every get to be a government issue ? What about the Baseball Commission handling this problem. Aren’t there just a few more important problems right now facing America ?
These politicians are really underestimating the the American public seeing through their pathetic bones they are throwing out.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:41 pmShe should stop lying. She so very poor at it.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:42 pmTHERE you are, Frank! You somehow skipped out on the torture thread without telling us why one crime (torture) is justified by dire circumstances but another crime (robbery) isn’t.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:45 pmBurnt Rice on Toast. Where is the same outrage as against the ballplayers?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:49 pmMedia Ignore Saddam’s WMD Intent
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:33 AM
By: Ronald Kessler
When FBI agent George Piro recently described debriefing Saddam Hussein for seven months after his capture, he disclosed that the Iraqi dictator admitted his intention to re-start his weapons of mass destruction program within a year.
That plan included developing nuclear weapons capability, according to Saddam.
The revelation should have hit Page One of every newspaper.
It would have further justified President Bush’s decision to invade Iraq, a key issue in the coming presidential election. But many in the mainstream media could not bear to hear that Bush may have done something right.
When Piro’s interview came out in my book, “The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack,” NBC Nightly News, Fox News, and Newsmax ran the news of Saddam’s admission, but few newspapers published a story.
CNN ran a story on the debriefing of Saddam but made no mention of Saddam’s plans to resume his weapons of mass destruction program, including developing nuclear capability. Instead, CNN said that what Saddam told Piro “throws more cold water on the justification for war†because Saddam admitted he was bluffing about having weapons of mass destruction.
Two and a half months later, “60 Minutes” ran the first television interview with Piro. The interview buried the reference to Saddam’s WMD and nuclear plans, as did the press release on the CBS Web site. Likewise, an AP story on the interview mentioned Saddam’s plans in the 11th paragraph. Only four U.S. newspapers ran a story referring to Saddam’s WMD and nuclear plans.
The Washington Post ran a 542-word story on the interview leaving out any mention of Saddam’s avowed intentions. The New York Times ran no story at all.
Today, we have press censorship similar to what existed in the old Soviet Union, except the censors are journalists themselves, and it’s in reverse: News favorable to the government is suppressed.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:49 pmWexler is one of the Congressmen supporting the shelved impeachments. He is trying, but we have a Democratic Leadership that is not even supporting efforts to provide real oversight and has eliminated the deterrent/remedy Impeachment as an option.
Kudos to Wexler, but boos to Pelosi, Reid and the other Bush enablers that are obstructing Justice as much as any Republican does.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:50 pmComment by JT — February 14, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
We would do well to ignore JT’s Off-Topic Intent. Except JT has taken it beyond the stage of intention, and actually committed an Off-Topic act. Thus demonstrating the difference between intent and action.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:56 pmJT ignores the FACT that Sadaam had NO active WMD, and only intentions to begin reconstituting, whereas we were told he WAS reconstituting his nukular program.
See any difference?
February 14th, 2008 at 1:57 pmSomething to note for those who have not voted in your state primary yet.
February 14th, 2008 at 1:58 pmObama showed and supported Dodd’s filibuster on the FISA bill, while Hillary didn’t.
Now its up to the House to block telco immunity, since the lapdogs in the Senate passed it. Call your Congressman/Congresswoman.
Sorry for the O/T but Democrats are putting forward a resolution holding White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House Counsel Harriet Miers in contempt of Congress. House GOP rank-and-file are planning a dramatic walk out when the vote is called.
Story with updates to come over @ dailykos.
http://www.dailykos.com/ story/ 2008/ 2/ 14/ 132822/ 887/ 900/ 456752
Expect some stern b/s from McConnell and some heartfelt tears from the Boner.
Conyers, “I woke up today and noticed these little bumps growing down there. Should I see a doctor?”
American citizen, “No John, those are called balls. Try nurishing and using them.”
February 14th, 2008 at 1:59 pmTwo and a half months later, “60 Minutes†ran the first television interview with Piro. The interview buried the reference to Saddam’s WMD and nuclear plans, as did the press release on the CBS Web site. Likewise, an AP story on the interview mentioned Saddam’s plans in the 11th paragraph. Only four U.S. newspapers ran a story referring to Saddam’s WMD and nuclear plans.
The Washington Post ran a 542-word story on the interview leaving out any mention of Saddam’s avowed intentions. The New York Times ran no story at all.
Today, we have press censorship similar to what existed in the old Soviet Union, except the censors are journalists themselves, and it’s in reverse: News favorable to the government is suppressed.
Comment by JT — February 14, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Wow - so what you’re saying is that the liberal media conspired to keep this information about Saddam’s nuclear pipe dreams from the public, thus causing a popular uprising against the war that prevented our government from invading Iraq?
Damn those liberal newspapers! It’s all their fault we didn’t go to war and kill over one million Iraqis and displace four million Iraqis and kill 4,000 American soldiers.
Oh, wait - this isn’t a parallel universe. My bad!
February 14th, 2008 at 1:59 pmMay god have mercy on their souls.
NO!
And may they have a long, long visit at The Hague!
February 14th, 2008 at 2:00 pm19 - Bilbo - I don’t *want* God to have mercy on these people.
I want Him to send them all straight to the lowest circle of Hell. Now.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:00 pmIraq War II was not waged because Saddam might some day reconstitute his WMD program. It was waged, ostensibly, because Saddam HAD WMDs and the ability, with his rockets, to attack Israel or, via UPS, to mail them to the US where they would explode in NYC. Imminent. Mushroom cloud. 15 minutes.
Of course, Saddam wanted WMDs. What national leader wouldn’t. Especially if you have the US telling you every day, hey, that stuff we showed you how to make, stop or we’re going to use it on you, or worse., You’d want WMDs too, or least want people to belief you had them.
Also, if all your neighbor’s kid has the new Wii, your kids want too, so you’ll go out and get one as well. Saddam was surrounded by those who had much bigger toys than he did. Human nature being what it is, he’d do what he needed to do.
No, see, Iraq II was more about the UN thinking about ending sanction and then the French, Germans and Russian oil concessions Iraq negotiated while the US saber-rattled would take hold and US oil companies would be out in the cold. That was what was being reconstituted — a big thanks but no thanks to the US. Now you know why the US wants those long term oil leases solely for US firms.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:01 pmRun Condi run. She can run from the truth, but she can’t hide. I want to watch when the truth finally catches up with this bunch of criminals. I hope we have enough rope to hang all of them.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:01 pmJt - 1:49 p Exisited in the old Soviet Union - according to Garry Kasparov Chess Grandmaster protesting Putin’s regime. A media blackout is still in service today. We are but one step away from this happening here. Already journalists have to fear imprisonment if they don’t reveal sources, even authors.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:01 pmPersonal data has been being gathered over two years now, the No Child Left Behind allows data on our kids from 13 up. Insurance co, hospital records, even the VA data has been stolen and compromised. Ask who would benefit from having all this information to pull from.
We cannot be annyomous but how about having a little privacy left to us.
#44, enjoy that sideshow. DOJ won’t do anything to enforce it and, in the end, the whole issue will wither with the passing of a new year. ‘Tis just a small piece of red meat to throw our way as they continue to give W all that he wants in other areas.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:03 pmQ. Ms. Rice, Was that statement you just made under oath a lie?
A. Yes
See… She is telling the truth!
February 14th, 2008 at 2:04 pmSo? Maybe they should do something about it, then? They won’t? Oh well, in that case it’s a moot point.
Comment by Frank M
Typical. If you get away with breaking the law, it’s not a crime. This attitude is behind the reason the Republican party has become the most corrupt, most dishonest group of politicains in the history of this country. It is also the reason they will not be allowed back into power in the forseeable future, and may cease to exist at all in a few years.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:05 pmNo, see, Iraq II was more about the UN thinking about ending sanction and then the French, Germans and Russian oil concessions Iraq negotiated while the US saber-rattled would take hold and US oil companies would be out in the cold.
Comment by po — February 14, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Don’t forget Saudi annoyance at Saddam for constantly jerking the price of oil around. That played a role, too.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:06 pmMay god have mercy on their souls.
Comment by bilbobaggins
If there is a God like they say and this list is any indication - I seriously doubt that.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pmComment by JT — February 14, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
interesting stuff jt left out about “Ronald Kessler”
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2006/kessler.html
newsmax? couldn’t find anything more biased, jt?
February 14th, 2008 at 2:10 pm#54
February 14th, 2008 at 2:11 pmAlso, let’s not forget that Saddam was planning to sell oil in Euros.
Rice lied? Huh, whoda thunkit?
JT,
Saddam was “intent” on rebuilding his nuclear weapons capability?
Well, we obviously can’t ask him, because he’s already DEAD!
Convenient, no?
Listen, a just released felon can have “intentions” of burglarizing again, but you can’t arrest him when no crime has been committed.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:12 pmUnderstand?
My heart aches to know that some justify the deaths of nearly 4000 of our bravest men and women, and nearly a million Iraqi’s, over a perceived “intention”
I call BULL$HIT!
Gotta love the title “The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack,â€
A desperate race to keep Sadam from his “intentions”. Hurry!
I have intentions of one day retiring as a multi-millionaire. But I might as well kick back, it’s going to be awhile.
Hey JT, you piss-soaked milquetoast, I saw a load go by on the freeway that looked like aluminum tubes! Gasp!! Hurry!! I think some guy in Yuma wants to build a reactor!
February 14th, 2008 at 2:14 pmSaddam had no real understanding of what was even possible within his own government in regards to WMD’s. His subordinates were lying to him out of fear and the knowledge there wasn’t any real program existing.
Saddam made the tactical mistake of fearing his own people more than the US while pushing all the wrong buttons to incite the US.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:15 pmpo-
Despite your eternal pessimism, it’s still good for the nation, albeit on a small scale, to see these obstructionists march out en masse from their duties and sworn responsibilities. Perhaps this will give the Dems a slightly larger sense of bravado in confronting these crooks. Between this issue, the prospect of the expiration of the Protect America Act this weekend and more media coverage of the Administration’s torture program we have seen of late that at least some of our elected officials have the good of the Country in mind. My hope is that this sentiment begins to grow. Who knows, maybe something will finally come to a head before years end.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:16 pmDang, that small piece of red meat was delicious! May I have have some more, please sir?
Did Condiliesalot check with her husband before giving this testimony?
February 14th, 2008 at 2:24 pmMcCain/Rice ‘08 - That’s a scary thought.
JT, smoking gun, buddy. Smoking gun.
Keep it up.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:27 pmMy spoonerism engine just keeps interrupting me when I try to say
Bying Litch!
February 14th, 2008 at 2:29 pmAPA, it is backwards, and all possible when the “power elite” control the information. I would dare say that the “average soccer mom or little league dad” spends little or no time each day researching or reading alternative news sites on the Internet, instead, they rely on the MSM (Fox News, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, talk radio, etc.) and are therefore totally ignorant of the facts and truths about our government. In short, they are told what to believe and they dutifully do so, believing they are being the good little patriotic “American”.
History has shown that “whenever the mass media has been under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line”, “the result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.”
But you have to keep in mind that today, most people are more interested in what is happening to Brittany Spears, Paris Hilton, Tom, Brad and other celebrities than what is happening in the halls of government. It’s kind of like a modern Roman Empire, except today, we have an orgy of gossip, “reality shows”, and tabloid journalism. Meanwhile, the city is virtually burning to the ground around us and only a hand full of people are aware of the flames that are destroying our way of life, our freedoms, and the future for our children and grandchildren.
One word comes to mind, FUBAR.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:34 pmQuick!!! Someone fetch my boots. It’s fillin’ up pretty fast in here.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:40 pmRICE: Congressman, we don’t want the “Smoking Gun” to be in the form of documentation that could Indict us.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:46 pmThen it’s settled: Rice is a goddamned liar. Somebody build a gibbet!
February 14th, 2008 at 2:53 pmThat’s right, Kinda-sleezy, you keep giving Congress that big ole 2×4 grin you’re known for as you lie to them. The one thing she’s not bright enough to figure out is, everything she says is being recorded and her inconsistencies are piling up to bite her in the ass.
February 14th, 2008 at 3:00 pmDo you think that the congressional police force is tidying up the cells in the capitol building yet?
February 14th, 2008 at 3:03 pmToday, we have press censorship similar to what existed in the old Soviet Union, except the censors are journalists themselves, and it’s in reverse: News favorable to the government is suppressed.
Comment by JT — February 14, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Down is up, black is white, to these idiot trolls.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:05 pmdon’t forget:
http://wexlerwantshearings.com/
and pass it on…
February 14th, 2008 at 4:09 pmDumbya’s high heeled squeeze now lies about lying - that’s priceless. Time to shop for some shoes, Condi. Do they allow pumps in prison?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:21 pmThanks Katy. I’ve just contributed to Wexler’s campaign for impeachment hearings. It’s taking hold finally….
February 14th, 2008 at 4:22 pmQ. Ms. Rice, Was that statement you just made under oath a lie?
A. Yes
See… She is telling the truth!
Comment by Art
The problem is that she is not testifying under oath. Bush does not allow any of his minions to testify under oath.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:50 pmIt’s about time someone is calling Rice and Bush on their lies!
Here is the proof they LIED!
“(CBS) When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush insisted that all those WMD claims before the war were the result of faulty intelligence. But a former top CIA official, Tyler Drumheller — a 26-year veteran of the agency — has decided to do something CIA officials at his level almost never do: Speak out.
He tells correspondent Ed Bradley the real failure was not in the intelligence community but in the White House. He says he saw how the Bush administration, time and again, welcomed intelligence that fit the president’s determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to intelligence that did not.
“It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it’s an intelligence failure. It’s an intelligence failure. This was a policy failure,” Drumheller tells Bradley.
Drumheller was the CIA’s top man in Europe, the head of covert operations there, until he retired a year ago. He says he saw firsthand how the White House promoted intelligence it liked and ignored intelligence it didn’t:
“The idea of going after Iraq was U.S. policy. It was going to happen one way or the other,” says Drumheller. ”
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2006/ 04/ 21/ 60minutes/ main1527749.shtml
February 14th, 2008 at 7:07 pmThis reminds me of a scene in the movie Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
Anyone who is a fan of the series knows that Vulcans do not lie. It is a big no-no.
The plot revolves around a female Vulcan (Valeris) who, if I remember correctly, is an understudy of Mr. Spock and who conspires with a group of Klingons to thwart the peace negotiations between the Federation and the Klingon empire.
Fast forward to near the end of the movie. Kirk and Co. have discovered the plot and ask Valeris to name the co-conspirators.
She replies: “I do not remember.”
Spock asks: “A lie?”
Valeris: “A choice.”
February 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pmOh, and if you want to know how the movie turns out, go rent it. I won’t spoil any more of it. Seriously, this is one of the best movies out of the Star Trek movie collection.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pmJT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would love to smoke the same thing you, Perino, Bush & Co. smoke! Imagine… being able to be soooooo far away from reality! Being able to justify a War Crime. Able to ignore the economy, able to pass far away from the controlled demolition evidence in the WTC1 WTC2 and WTC7. Be able to close my eyes not to see the footage of an E-4B plane flying over the WH prior to the Pentagon alledged attack. To dismiss the TREASON of Valerie plame, even though I dislike the CIA for their criminal dealings in South America and Central America. To be able to forget my morals as a human being and approve the use of Torture. To see the photos of Abu Graib, and say nothing! To hear the number of dead iraqui civilians in direct cause of a LIE! To say that is OK to spy on me, without a court warrant! Yeah!… if I smoke what you smoke I could say Bush is doing the right thing! But as I’m not ’stoned’, I can only see him for what he realy is: A criminal. A WAR CRIMINAL! Please… pass it to me!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pmNobody wants to go to war
February 15th, 2008 at 4:48 amVIDEO: Condoleezza Rice: Liar, Secretary of State, War Criminal Part 1
Wexler asks Rice, isn’t it true that you had intelligence that cast doubt on your repeated claims that Iraq did have WMD. It is worse than even how Wexler characterizes it. SEE PROOF, that the Bush Administration was committing fraud in order to fool the public into thinking Iraq had WMD. Spread the word. Send this link to others:
February 16th, 2008 at 7:04 amhttp://representativepress.googlepages.com/RiceLies.html
911 was an inside job!
February 21st, 2008 at 11:04 am