Pentagon pushes for more contractor immunity in Iraq.
By on Feb 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Pentagon pushes for more contractor immunity in Iraq.
As the Bush administration prepares to “renegotiate a long-term bilateral security agreement” with Iraq, a “deal-breaker for the Iraqis is contractor immunity” of the type that allowed Blackwater guards to escape punishment after killing 17 Iraqis in a Baghdad shoot-out. But “in interagency discussions arranged in preparation for the start of negotiations, the Department of Defense has said it wants to ask the Iraqis to maintain status quo.” The State Department “has argued strongly against that position.”
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Because if they have to start worring about the threat of lawsuits they would never get ANYTHING done! Oh, wait…
February 14th, 2008 at 4:00 pmdon’t need immunity if there is no crime.
pretty simple.
must be some crime going on there…
February 14th, 2008 at 4:01 pmy’think?
Geeeeeeeeeebus.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:01 pmYes, lets get that immunity bill for the last 8 years going, don’t want to have to spend my Halliburton money for lawyers.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pmIraq has a long and storied history of litigation… They brought us the concept of law… its only right that we return the favor and introduce the concept of being “above the law”
February 14th, 2008 at 4:07 pmBoth FBI and Army investigators concluded that Blackwater was not provoked in the shooting referenced in this post. It was simple homicide committed by mercenaries out of control, probably suffering from ‘roid rage. The Bush administration has done everything possible to allow these murdering, raping thugs to operate outside of the law.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:09 pmWhy don’t they just do away with ALL laws and be effing done with it??
February 14th, 2008 at 4:11 pmJust a little reminder of who the enemy really is : Video of Al-Qaeda in Iraq executing Iraqis by burning them alive
LINK – http://acanadianguy.blogspot.com/2008/02/hrriyet-videolarn-izlemet-iin-flash-7.html
…..this video is extremely graphic?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:13 pm…..this video is extremely graphic?
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There should not have been a question mark at the end of that sentence.
The video IS extremely graphic.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pmWhat makes the Iraqis think they have any say-so in anything…the arrogance,THE ARROGANCE I SAY.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pmWelcome to the world of corporate rule. It has nothing to do with America or the constitution, but all to do with power & money.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pmthis video is extremely graphic?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
looks like Shock and Awe, doesn’t it, chuck? War crimes on both sides, how nice. And I didn;t see the Al Qaeda insignia, either. Funny how that is ignored by the antiAmerican clowns like Napier.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:17 pmCharles James Napier — What a scumbag this troll is. So we should strive to be just a LITTLE BIT better than “AQ”? in Iraq.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:17 pmMichael J Totten reports from Iraq: The Final Mission Pt III
February 14th, 2008 at 4:17 pmhttp://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/02/the-final-missi-2.php
The Bush administration has done everything possible to allow these murdering, raping thugs to operate outside of the law.
Comment by VerbalKint — February 14, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
the Bush administration set the bar. They are all war criminals that shame America completely.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pmComment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
Totten is an enemy spy, not an American.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pmHey, Napier, show us those pictures of young Ali, the armless and family-less boy victim of Bush. Al Qaeda has nothing on George Bush, the world’s leading terrorist.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:20 pmAnti-American is spot on Lefty. I’m pissed enough to spit nails at what bush/co has done to my country. If your not pissed,either A) you haven’t been paying attention or B) you are a fake patriot/RNC whore.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:22 pmComment by Lefty Patriot — February 14, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
February 14th, 2008 at 4:22 pmCharles Napier is an actor, and not a good one.
Totten is an enemy spy, not an American.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
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Please explain.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:22 pmNo immunity for rapists and murderers. And no immunity for Bush and Cheney either.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pmAnd I didn;t see the Al Qaeda insignia, either. Funny how that is ignored by the antiAmerican clowns like Napier.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Hey, if our government says that they are AQ, then they must be AQ. They wouldn’t lie to us, would they?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pmForeigners call Bush “the butcher”. Pretty much the truth. He’ll be up there soon with Vlad, the Impaler.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:25 pmlease explain.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
read his lies. it’s obvious he works for Saudi arabia or North Korea. No American is going to pen those lies.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:25 pmAnd I didn;t see the Al Qaeda insignia…
Comment by Lefty Patriot
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You are an idiot.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:25 pmI fear that everyone will be painted as AQ by this twisted group of demons – even left wing bloggers. Dana Dogface Purina is saying so today. After all, isn’t she the epitome of truth and justice in the persona of a dimunitive, butt-licking sheeple?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:26 pmYou are an idiot.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
really? You’re the one believing the Bushco propaganda shoved down your throat. Prove to me, or anyone, that what you showed was Al Qaeda, and not Blackwater employees.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pmWhy don’t they just do away with ALL laws and be effing done with it??
Comment by Leftside Annie
They have: they are called “signing statements”. Nobody seems to have the balls to call BushCo on his Constitutional power grab. So, basically they have torn up our way of life because one man – or in Bush’s case, one chimp – can disregard the passed laws of the US Congress. The US as you used to know it, is gone forever.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pmComment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
come on, chuckie, show us all how you know it was Al Qaeda. You’ve proven in the past to be a simple-minded tool, that doesn’t appear to have changed one bit. Now, explain the difference between what you have posted and “Shock and Awe”. Both burned people alive; one was provable, boastfully American, one was…???
February 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pmYou are an idiot.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Fool tool troll Napier thinks that we are idiots because we don’t buy the lies this Administration tells us. It has no proof that these people are AQ. It believes it’s authority figure because without believing, it has no reason for being. It is incapable of independent though.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pm#30 independent thought
February 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pm25 – and you, Charles James Napier, are a naive, pap-swilling boob of the first order, the dream of every swindling huckster and snake-oil salesman.
Why don’t you go back to hiding under your bed…?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pmCome on, chuck, a little proof of Al Qaeda, you idiot.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pmJust a little reminder of who the enemy really is : Video of Al-Qaeda in Iraq executing Iraqis by burning them alive
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
Does this mean the surge is working?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pmYou are an idiot.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Coming from you, that is almost a compliment. If an idiot thinks you’re an idiot – doesn’t that negate the first idiots claim?
besides, CJN is an idiot.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pm28 – I know it, and it breaks my heart. Small comfort that it will soon be a Democrat who will be spying on Republicans….
~A
February 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pmInteresting point – bush has Secret Service training more people than any other prior President to protect him after leaving office. Now why would he feel so threatened ? Could be he realizes how corrupt he is and afraid it will catch up to him ? Also, we, taxpayers paid $25,000 an HOUR to protect him on his overseas trip. Yes, everyone really admires this man. NOT !
February 14th, 2008 at 4:34 pmNow why would he feel so threatened ?
Comment by texaslady
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With deranged freaks like the mental defects that post here, I don’t blame him.
The whole lot of you are in dire need of mental treatment.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:38 pmWatch out Charlie, the Cong are coming to roast your babies!
February 14th, 2008 at 4:40 pmIronic that it will take the Iraqi government to actually stand tall against Bush and his corporate thugs. Sounds like a PRICELESS ad in the making to me.
And Bush doesn’t have to worry about Secret Service in Paraguay. The world courts can’t touch him there…ah, but if he ever leaves I hope that last trip will be to the Hague!
February 14th, 2008 at 4:41 pmThe whole lot of you are in dire need of mental treatment.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
We’re not the ones supporting a failed occupation that never should’ve been started in the first place.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:41 pmWatch out Charlie, the Cong are coming to roast your babies!
I thought they ate them. Hmmm….
February 14th, 2008 at 4:42 pmThe whole lot of you are in dire need of mental treatment.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Really? When are you going to start yours? You’re the one believing mass-murdering liars, not us. You’re a traitor, and should feel just as threatened as bush does, both with good reason. Nobody is more hated than Bush, except his supporters.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:44 pmAmazing that after 8 years of lie after lie, civil rights destroyed there are still some Charlies that believe. Charlie, he doesn’t have any clothes on, clean your glasses. He doesn’t give a damn about you it is all about him.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pmRelax, it’s just imperial hubris.
-GSD
February 14th, 2008 at 4:48 pm38 – Oh, Charlie “Chicken Little” Napier, the sky is falling, isn’t it…??
Why don’t you run and tell King George? I’m sure he’ll keep you safe.
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Pap-swilling boob.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:48 pmCharles wants to spend American money to build Iraqi schools for people who cook people alive.
I betcha Charles doesn’t want to spend money to rebuild schools in New Orleans.
-GSD
February 14th, 2008 at 4:50 pmSorry, I didn’t mean to derail the thread.
Please go back to you usual unhinged ranting.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:50 pmWhen I was in 8th grade, the idiot teacher was telling us that the VC were pounding nails into the skulls of priests and nuns.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:52 pmSame BS drill, different decade..
RUCerious, when I was in school in the 80’s it was commies in Nicaragua taking dumps in churches.
-GSD
February 14th, 2008 at 4:52 pmCharlie does it bother you that bush has created MORE terriorism than before with our destruction of a country that had been contained ? Don’t you think bush should have contained Afganistan before marching into Iraq? Now we have TWO countries that have reasons to hate us. And you defend this slimy dictator ?
February 14th, 2008 at 4:53 pmTelecoms, mercenaries, law breaking and retroactive pardons for all.
Welcome to the new DisOrder, called BushitCo Screw U.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:55 pmSorry, I didn’t mean to derail the thread.
Please go back to you usual unhinged ranting.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Yet another crock of shit from our ever so erudite troll.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:56 pm“The whole lot of you are in dire need of mental treatment.”
The only comment in this thread that makes any sense. We’ll see who’s laughing IF the democraps win in November.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:58 pmSorry, I didn’t mean to derail the thread.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
The biggest lie of all!!!!
Shorter CJN: TP = Al Queda in Amerikkka
February 14th, 2008 at 4:59 pm53 – Charlies comment about unhinged ranting is funny since comments here are backed up by very good facts. He should stick around and learn something.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:59 pmPlease go back to you usual unhinged ranting.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 14, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
and you go backto blowing theavenger under a picture of Bush’s shock and awe blowing up little kids. that seems to be what gets your kind excited.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:00 pmWe’ll see who’s laughing IF the democraps win in November.
Comment by theavenger — February 14, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
we’ll see who’s laughing as all of your “leaders” are chained and jailed.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pmIn the SOVEREIGN country of Iraq:
….foreign mercenaries can commit crimes, including Murder, with Immunity from Iraqi laws.
…..foreign troops can establish Permanenet Bases as they wish.
…..innocent civilian victims are dismissed as collateral damage.
And we wonder why there is an Insurgency????
February 14th, 2008 at 5:03 pmSo they can continue to kill and rape with impunity?
February 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pmWith deranged freaks like the mental defects that post here, I don’t blame him.
The whole lot of you are in dire need of mental treatment.
Comment by Charles James Napier
It is showing its ability to project with the best of them. It is going to be in big trouble when the Democrats are in charge. It will no longer have a reason to live. And it is the its like Napier that I fear when Obama becomes President. I certainly hope that Obama hires and trains his own Secret Service agents. If I were him, I wouldn’t touch anything that Bush touched with a ten foot pool. Everything Bush has touched is tained beyond redemption.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:22 pmAnd we wonder why there is an Insurgency????
Comment by Badger
Well, that’s what happens when you invade and occupy a country against it’s will.
What the Iraqi’s are doing is pretty much what we would be doing if they had invaded our country and were currently occupying it.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pmWow. Looks like we got a real live one on this thread. Well, Chuck, your extreme version of moral relativism takes the cake. Two wrongs make a right, Chuck. They murder, but hell, we can murder too. That’ll show ‘em, eh Chuck? Tell me, Chuck, do you pretend to be a Christian? Because if you do, I want to let you in on a little secret: you aren’t. Not even close, Chuck. No, Chuck, you are a total war type. The type who sanctions war crimes, who sanctions crimes against humanity. Think about that the next time you advocate enabling the enemy by proposing that our country sink to their level.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pmYou gonna go domestic terrorist on us if Obama or Clinton wins, Chuck? You seem like the Travis Bickle type to me.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:26 pmWell it might not be so bad if someone came in and removed King George and Cheney, I would have to think about which side to fight on.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:27 pmI really do wish that TP would add to their rules the following:
You will be in violation of the rules of TP if you post to a thread simply to disrupt the thread. If this happens and five TP posters flag you, your comments will be deleted from the thread. If you are flagged and deleted from five threads, you will be banned from TP forever.
And then, I wish that they would follow through. I can’t believe how they allow people like napier and his ilk to post to threads simply with the intent of disrupting the thread. It happens every day and it is very irritating.
But, I must commend the regulars for getting better at not getting sucked into their rants. I would like to see everyone here refuse to validate their existence by talking to them directly. If enough people did that, they would probably leave. I truly believe that most of them are here to get an ego boost and you give them the boost when you respond directly to them. It’s sad how small they are to need to spam a blog to get their ego boosts.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:29 pmWhat is a “bilateral security agreement?” Does that mean America will assure Iraq’s security and Iraq will assure America’s? That sounds like a deal Bush would fall for.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:32 pmIf I were him, I wouldn’t touch anything that Bush touched with a ten foot pool. Everything Bush has touched is tained beyond redemption.
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 14, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
I can just see the ebay site, selling off the oval office chair, desk, pen and pencil sets.
Opening bid at .05 and no bidders…
February 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pmDumb Question: of our other bases in other countries (as we know they aren’t permanent bases. HA HA): How many of these countries extend blanket immunity to our actions ? If we rape a girl in Korea is that just fine with the Koreans ? If we rape a girl in Germany, is that just fine ?
So why now in Iraq (which we, by WH statement are not there permanently) do we have to have this legal “get out of jail free card” which appears to be unprecedented ?
February 14th, 2008 at 6:21 pmImmunity here, immunity there — pretty soon people will start thinking there are criminals who need protection.
February 14th, 2008 at 6:22 pmThe crimes that these war criminal do just won’t stop will they…this is just sickening.
Congress if you were somehow law abiding you would impeach this war criminal Bush and Cheney.
Sorry that we all have to live in a time to witness the fall of America.
Buck Fush
February 14th, 2008 at 7:21 pmBesides the entertainment industry, is there any industry, special interest or high official in his administration for which this man is not demanding immunity? Do they follow any laws?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pmNo…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:30 pm