White House: Congress Caving To ‘The Fantasies Of Left-Wing Bloggers’
White House: Congress Caving To ‘The Fantasies Of Left-Wing Bloggers’
The White House has experienced difficulties moving its ill-conceived national security priorities through Congress. Yesterday, the Senate passed legislation banning waterboarding, defying a Bush veto threat. Also, House leaders have said they will not approve the Protect America Act with immunity for telecom companies.
After the Senate banned waterboarding yesterday, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino claimed the “left wing” was trying to overtake the intelligence community:
They’ll have to ask themselves, ‘Do you trust the intelligence community more than you trust Democrats who are beholden to their left-wing?‘ And that’s the debate that this country is going to have.
Perino also attacked Congress for holding a contempt of Congress vote on White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers instead of expanding Bush’s surveillance powers:
The American people will find it baffling that on a day that House leaders are trying to put off passing critical legislation to keep us safer from the threat of foreign terrorists overseas, they are spending scarce time to become the first congress in history to bring contempt charges against a president’s chief of staff and lawyer. … The ‘people’s House’ should reflect the priorities of the American people, not the fantasies of left-wing bloggers.
The line is a familiar one. When the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington revealed that the White House had destroyed millions of e-mails, Perino shrugged them off as the accusations of a “left-wing” group — but she later backtracked.
Congress’s priorities are reflected by the will of the public. A recent CNN poll showed that 68 percent of Americans said waterboarding was torture, and 58% said the U.S. should not use the technique. A January ACLU poll found 57 percent of likely voters opposed telecom immunity, compared to just a third who supported it.
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yes because we want the terrorists to win, so sayeth the Moron and John Kerry, the troll…
February 14th, 2008 at 7:52 pmCongress is caving in to democracy, truth, justice & the American Way.
Not to mention the rule of law.
No one is above it….except Republicans and their corporate donors?
February 14th, 2008 at 7:55 pmWill someone in the press corps PLEASE ask Perino why it takes 200 man hours to work up a warrant for a domestic-international call, resulting in Bush bypassing the FISA court because “there is not enough time,” yet he has no problem going to the FISA court for a domestic-domestic call, which could very easily be to-from two terrorists currently in America.
February 14th, 2008 at 7:56 pmComment by ucsbclassics53 — February 14, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
the trolls are our biggest supporters. they’re always here, they reinforce progressive goals and they build recruitment.
we should thank the trolls!
February 14th, 2008 at 7:56 pmCongress is caving in to my fantasies?
Damn, I was trying to aim them at George Clooney…
February 14th, 2008 at 7:58 pmComment by joe cantwell — February 14, 2008 @ 7:56 pm
yes, the trolls who need talking heads to think for them…
February 14th, 2008 at 8:00 pmPerino shrugged them off as the accusations of a “left-wing†group
Better known as 75% of the American people. Bush better realize that his days of breaking laws and honoring himself are nearly at an end.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:01 pmI wish that Bush would have been just a right wing fantasy and not a reality. Can’t he just shut and go cut some brush somewhere in Texas? Someone hand that cardboard cowboy a chain saw.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:02 pmHey, Dana! The left-wing bloggers ARE American people, yet it seems you would do anything in your power to dismiss them because they are, you know, lefties.
Furthermore, blogging is just one way we are trying to get the attention of those in Congress, ’cause Lord knows many of them don’t give a damn about the e-mails and letters that we send them.
Dana, darling, we want the American people who are otherwise ignorant of the goings-on in Washington to ask why Bush demands immunity for the telcos who have supposedly done nothing wrong, and threatens America with images of another terrorist attack, yet he has no problem pulling out his veto pen if he does not get what he wants, which would also prevent surveillance from continuing.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:05 pmthey are spending scarce time to become the first congress in history to bring contempt charges against a president’s chief of staff and lawyer. … The ‘people’s House’ should reflect the priorities of the American people, not the fantasies of left-wing bloggers.
Well, maybe it is the first time in history (it actually isn’t) that they need to bring contempt charges against the president’s chief of staff and lawyer is because it is the first time in history that the Chief of Staff and Lawyer have defied congress and ignored a subpoena.
And, here are the facts about the FISA bill:
1) The Republicans have been stalling debate on the FISA bill for weeks.
2) The Republicans interrupted the memorial service for Tom Lantos demanding a vote on FISA when they knew that the vote on contempt was slated for today (how classy of them)
3) Then they demand to have a vote on the day before a vacation (again), threatening an “imminent attack” (again), and this time the Democrats didn’t let them get away with it.
4) The Democrats had offered to extend the FISA bill again, so that we didn’t have to worry about an “imminent attack”, but the Republicans turned down the extension.
So, who will be to blame if we are attacked? The Republicans since they put protecting the Telcoms over protecting the citizens of this country.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pmBush wants immunity for his own sorry ass. Anybody interested in what they are actually doing in Washington has now become a left wing group.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pmDana’s really p!ssing me off.
All these people have left is name-calling and obfuscation.
they’re pathetic.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:12 pmThe ‘people’s House’ should reflect the priorities of the American people, not the fantasies of left-wing bloggers.
That right there is just one more example of the White House’s g-damed contempt for the American people, not to mention the rule of law.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:13 pmCrap. Meant to say “damned.”
February 14th, 2008 at 8:14 pmThe President has said that American lives will be sacrificed if Congress does not change FISA. But he has also said that he will veto any FISA bill that does not grant retro-active immunity. No immunity, no FISA bill. So if we take the President at his word, he’s willing to let Americans die to protect the phone companies.
Which one is it cons?
February 14th, 2008 at 8:19 pmWow, the propaganda machine is firing on all cylinders. Yes we “left-wing” bloggers ( See UNITED STATES CITIZENS, you reich-wing f***wads ) are a threat to national security. We are concerned about protecting the constitution and the system of checks and balances, we are such concern trolls. Me thinks Dana must be loading her coffee cup with libation or LSD at those White House press conferences. They keep beating that fear drum but they don’t realize that 70% of the country has stopped listening. How dare we commielibrulfascists make some noise at OUR elected officials to do something.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:21 pmWell at least it’s the House, and not the Democrats, holding up this pathetic Senate bill. LOL.
Cornyn in Texas is crying that the Telcos could be
“sued for millions” if we don’t give Telcos immunity. And that if we don’t give Telcos immunity, then the Telcos will
accidentally give away itelligence info
WTF?????????????????????
February 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pmAmerica to GOP:
Drop dead!
February 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pmBetter known as 75% of the American people. Bush better realize that his days of breaking laws and honoring himself are nearly at an end.
Maybe.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:27 pmFrom AOL News:
A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University on Thursday, killing four people and himself. Campus Police Chief Donald Grady said the gunman was not a student at the school and police had no apparent motive.
Remind me again who it is we are supposed to be afraid of here in America?
Oh…yeah…terrorist, who hate us for our freedoms, shooting us in grocery stores.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pm“They’ll have to ask themselves, ‘Do you trust the intelligence community more than you trust Democrats who are beholden to their left-wing?‘ And that’s the debate that this country is going to have.”
February 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pmYeah , it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact no one in the country , outside of the retarded 20% Chimpy Adoration Brigade , trusts you or anyone in this dishonest , garbage administration , you brainless bim……..
So if we take the President at his word, he’s willing to let Americans die to protect the phone companies.
Comment by macd — February 14, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
Not the phone companies…his own ass! If they get immunity then he will claim the immunity falls on him too!!
It’s all about GW Botch. A worthless, unhuman ph(ckup!!! IMPEACH NOW!!!!!!!!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pmLet me repeat, because it’s not on Google yet:
Senator Cornyn says if the Telcos are sued for millions then the Telcos might accidentally leak intelligence.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pmCongratulations Think Progress Bloggers !
Were actually making the whitehouse NERVOUS
The internet : Behold a left wing engine of truth.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:33 pmI’m wearing a button that says – 01.20.09 End of an Error.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:33 pm01.20.09 End of an Error.
Comment by Tawdry — February 14, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
LOL…Where can I get one?
February 14th, 2008 at 8:35 pmCongress is caving in to my fantasies?
Damn, I was trying to aim them at George Clooney…
Comment by Zooey
Well stop it, you’re really confusing your senator!
February 14th, 2008 at 8:35 pmComment by macd — February 14, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
Of the many ways this maddening hypocrisy has been bluntly explained, yours is one of the best. Bravo!
February 14th, 2008 at 8:35 pmThe sheer gall of this, after the crackhead-in-chief disavows the NIE on Iran completed by 16 intel agencies.
They can’t have it both ways.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:37 pmComment by Tawdry — February 14, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
Any chance that T-shirts with this are for sale?
February 14th, 2008 at 8:37 pmWell stop it, you’re really confusing your senator!
Comment by Bobwurst — February 14, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
Yeah, he was aiming his fantasies at George Clooney as well. ;)
February 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pmNow, the president asserts that the expiration of the protect America act will pose a danger to our country. The former National Security Council advisor on terrorism says that’s not true. Former assistant attorney general says that’s not true. Numerous others, and the chairman, has asserted that’s not true. Why is that not true? Because FISA will remain in effect. The authority given under the protect America act remains in effect. And if there are new targets, the FISA court has full authority to give every authority to the administration to act. So i tell my friends, we are pursuing the politics of fear. Unfounded fear. 435 members of this house and every one of us, every one of us wants to keep America and Americans safe. Not one of us — not one of us wants to subject America or Americans to danger. The president’s assertion is wrong. I say it categorically. The president’s assertion is wrong.
Steny Hoyer~
February 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pmBush acts like a three-year-old brat who is badly in need of some adult discipline and supervision. His proposed law should be more truthfully entitled, the”Protect Corporate Telecomm Treason Act.”
February 14th, 2008 at 8:40 pmRepublicans could have had their bill if they left out Telco Immunity.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:41 pmBush, you’re a Grade ‘A’ moron, buffoon, worst President ever, and sorry, but that’s a cold hard fact, not a fantasy.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:44 pmJust saw Keith Olbermann with another Special Comment. I wholeheartly agree with everything he said. I trust TP will post a video for all to see.
I loved that he called Bush a liar and that Bush needs a T-Shirt that says Fascist.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:47 pmHis proposed law should be more truthfully entitled, theâ€Protect Corporate Telecomm Treason Act.â€
Comment by Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre — February 14, 2008 @ 8:40 pm
And Cover His A$s From Prison Act !! He’s gonna try to use this law to keep his own worthless a$s out of jail!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 8:48 pmI loved that he called Bush a liar and that Bush needs a T-Shirt that says Fascist.
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
Exactly. I loved this segment from KO!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 8:49 pmBush is right (for once). Thise means that he has been trampled by his own arrogance, stupidity and greed. It also means that Americans have jettisoned him and his band of criminal handlers.
I became political in 2000 after learning of the illegal ascent of Bush to the thrown. Since then I have learned that liberals/Democrats are just plain better people that conservative/republicans.
One other thing, WE ARE ALL, EACH OF US, SUPERIOR TO OUR LITTLE WOODENHEAD PRESIDENT PINOCCHIO.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:50 pmJust saw Keith Olbermann with another Special Comment. I wholeheartly agree with everything he said. I trust TP will post a video for all to see.
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
If TP doesn’t post the video, Crooksandliars.com always does.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:51 pmIf TP doesn’t post the video, Crooksandliars.com always does.
Comment by Bad Eye — February 14, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
That may be true but TP is much more tolerant as far as blogging goes.
C&L is just to politically correct for much discourse to happen. They are too quick to ban and the monitors are shallow.
TP is the place to blog.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:56 pmWhite House: Congress Caving To ‘The Fantasies Of Left-Wing
February 14th, 2008 at 8:57 pmHe, Bush, ain’t seen nothing yet.
Republicans aren’t showing up for the primaries.
Republicans are voting for ?Obama? for crying out loud?!
And Bush is demanding that the House grant him retroactive immunity for his crimes??????
February 14th, 2008 at 9:00 pmIF BUSH IS SCARED? THEN WE’RE DOING THE RIGHT THING
February 14th, 2008 at 9:02 pmI believe that there is some kernal of truth to these statements from the Whitehouse.
Given Barack Obama’s overtaking Hill’reh in the primary race, the ugly side of the nutrooters is starting to show. Confident in their eventual ascendency to the presidency, nutrooters are starting to make very distasteful slants against Christianity, the military, etc.
Those are exactly the types of statements that turn Independents off. Given that Obama’s campaign is based purely on image, it would serve you well not to undermine that image by showing your true faces.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:16 pmI think I hear the approaching footsteps of history coming a callin’ for Georgie.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:18 pmCan you hear it too?
I believe blah blah blah blah OH MY GOD HILLARY!! blah blah blah OBAMA SCARY!! blah blah….
February 14th, 2008 at 9:19 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
I wonder, in the picture above, is that the troll room where Chimpy is looking at a blog?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:20 pmIt’s been pointed out over at Kos that the specific provision that Bush is so histrionic about, and which everyone agrees needs passed – a clarification that foreign-foreign calls that are routed through the US don’t require a warrant – doesn’t expire for another six months. It’s the other crap in the bill they passed in August that expires.
Bush knows this, and is lying. Again.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:21 pmAlmost every thing said by Bush and his gang of criminals and liars are calculated to deceive Americans.
They appear to live in opposite land.
Congress has FINALLY taken a SMALL step towards taking responsibility for oversight and standing up to this gang of criminals in the White House after being deluged by emails and phone calls urging them to do so and months of opinion polls showing that the 70% of the AMERICAN PEOPLE want them to start doing their job, yet Perino says they “should reflect the priorities of the American people”
Remember Bagdad Bob back in 2003?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:21 pmWe now have our own American version in “Bagdad Dana”
Comment by Tawdry — February 14, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
I’m wearing a button that says – 01.20.09 End of an Error.
Thanks for sharing! I’m making one on my laserwriter and taping it inside the back car window next to the one saying “First Things First Impeach Cheney.”
February 14th, 2008 at 9:21 pmI can’t wait for next election. If Bush & Co. do not steal this comming one, these delusional people will face REALITY! Something that their FACIST minds do not allow them to contemplate!
February 14th, 2008 at 9:22 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
Can anyone translate what this idiot is saying into English?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:24 pmThose are exactly the types of statements that turn Independents off.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
I think the troll comes here to get turned on. I wonder what hand he uses for the mouse while he reads and plays with himself?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:24 pmCall and leave your comment right to the lying piece of Shiit’s ear.
Whitehouse (OURHOUSE)
202 456-1111
Tell him you pray for his rapture every day.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:25 pmOr
I pray that his ultimate demise come sooner rather than later
or
The blood of the million PLUS people he has killed in his war in iraq can START to be cleansed from his hands by him surrendering and pleading guilty to war crimes NOW, fore he WILL BE TRIED one day.
or
Just tell him to get the fu(k out of our house.
It is disgusting to hear the way the War Criminals in the WH use the phrase: “American people”… comming from their criminal mouths it sound kind of protituted words. Freedom and Democracy have a deep meaning. When they quote it, it sounds shallow as Bimbo Perino’s face!
February 14th, 2008 at 9:26 pmCan anyone translate what this idiot is saying into English?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:24 pm
#47 is as close as we’ll ever get, I’m afraid. ;)
February 14th, 2008 at 9:26 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
What the hell did your stupid post have anything to do with the thread topic and specifically , the typically dishonest and moronic statement from the White House , you clown ?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:27 pmThis is fascinating… on one hand, the righties keep trying to tell us how meaningless and irrelevant we are, and on the other hand, we’re such a threat to the American Way of Lifeâ„¢…
February 14th, 2008 at 9:27 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
Can anyone translate what this idiot is saying into English?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:24 pm
February 14th, 2008 at 9:28 pmYeah , it says “I’m Jason M Lovehandles , and I’m a Chimpy nut hugging stooge”………..
I saw yer comment there, Z. Good one.
MC, Hendler’s NEVER been on topic. It’s his MO. He’s just here to distract.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:29 pmOoooh… THAT’S what handler was trying to say… okay, got it.
Thanks, MC. Good translating.
(and you too, Z…)
February 14th, 2008 at 9:30 pmWatch, the Republiscum after all the twisted logic pretzels they have constructed and spewed over the years will come back to bite them in the eventual twisting of their lexicon, so that no one from reality-ville can understand them. The irony will be that they end up using the ADA act to get people to have to create interpreters for them.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:30 pmJust think of the slew of jobs the GOP will create to have to communicate with the befuddled mumbling masses of Goopers that will be liing the streets all over America.
That alone will boost the economy.
“The ‘people’s House’ should reflect the priorities of the American people, not the fantasies of left-wing bloggers.”
Umm , since when is condoning and allowing illegal activity(s) a priority of the American people ?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:31 pm48. I wonder, in the picture above, is that the troll room where Chimpy is looking at a blog?
Yes it is, but he can’t actually operate a computer so someone does that for him…but his attention span is so short that he usually walks away after @ 30 seconds.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:31 pmThis picture was taken right before he was distracted by a shiny object or went off to ride his bike.
MC, Hendler’s NEVER been on topic. It’s his MO. He’s just here to distract.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:29 pm
All I know is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama scare the living crap out of Hendler. Poor thing….
February 14th, 2008 at 9:32 pmI wish one of those kids would have yanked on his fu(king tie and smacked his head on the desk.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:33 pmYeah , it says “I’m Jason M Lovehandles , and I’m a Chimpy nut hugging stoogeâ€â€¦â€¦â€¦..
Comment by MCMetal — February 14, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
Ohhhh, I missed that. Must be the pee smell throwing me off. ;)
February 14th, 2008 at 9:34 pmGeez, folks… feeling a bit snarky tonight, are we?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:35 pmOn NPR on the way home tonight they were interviewing Republicans in a Wisconsin restaraunt-all of them-to a man-voting Democrat.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:35 pmOff Topic
Meanwhile, over at Michelle Malkins blog, the “conservatives” are deeply depressed! Absolutely fascinating! (I apologize for the length here, but it really tells a wonderful story! I love the last one by David Segal.)
On a thread dated Feb 5, 2008, super Tuesday, were comments like this:
The topic question was “Is the GOP lost?”
On February 5th, 2008 at 5:36 pm, Gabe said:
Maybe we need a candidate like the ‘maverick’ who loves the media and ‘reaches out’ to the other side to get absolutely brutalized by the Dems and Media as soon as he’s nominated for those dumbasses to learn that McCain and company are the wrong way for the party to go?
I agree. “Reaching out†and compromising conservative principles will get us destroyed in the election.
We need someone who is not afraid to take on the MSM, such as what Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham do every day, and who is able to communicate conservative principles, just as they do so effectively. President Bush treated the MSM way too nicely. Also, the GOP needs to run a lot of negative ads and be ruthless, just like the Dems.
A “civilized election†will benefit the Dems, just like it did in 1996.
On February 5th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, Speakup said:
Having to ask the question answers it, don’t you think?
Lost as in gone, no, lost as in the RNC losing its way, yes, very much so.
Conservatism in America suffers from too great a percentage of amoral leaders.
This includes the likes of Newt Gingrich, John McCain, Mike Huckabee and lindsey Graham, they’re only interested in the perception morality not of the acting moral.
We foolishly trusted our leaders and they of course naturally stabbed us in the back.
There are a great many Conservatives in this country we just need a righteous movement to lead, direct and follow.
On February 5th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, traveler49 said:
I have a strong feeling we’re lost. We’ll know for sure by the end of today.
I am on board with everything DougT has said in this thread. we need to hit rock bottom and start over with a new party. The problem with that is we will have to go through a rebellion, WWIV and a complete subversion of our culture and society first.
Yes, I am very disheartened. We republicans will have done it to ourselves. Has no one been paying attention? I will no longer call myself a republican after this election.
On February 5th, 2008 at 6:59 pm, rightisright said:
Oh, by the way Bush is a liberal…good against the war and taxes…liberal with most of the rest.
On February 5th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, TXRose said:
Then, I read that Huckabee said he had “asked God to smite Mitt Romney and to
give us loaves and fishes to help this country financially.†Someone has an empty loony bin somewhere that is missing its inhabitant.
On February 5th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, txvet2 said:
Q: Who destroyed it?
A: According to Peggy Noonan – George W. Bush.
Couldn’t agree more. And McCain is busily squashing any remaining life out of the party. I’m not, never have been a Republican, but I’ve always voted that way because the alternative was so much worse. Now with McCain, there is no alternative. And I didn’t notice that anybody has even thought about what will happen if he loses – I, and many, many, other conservatives, vowed never to vote for McCain. I’m afraid that a lot of McCainiacs will feel the same way about Romney. Either way, the Democrats win this election, probably the next, and with them quite possibly a filibuster-proof Senate. The GOP is looking like it will return to the dark days of the 70’s, when they barely had enough members in the House for a bridge table.
On February 5th, 2008 at 11:29 pm, David Segal said:
February 14th, 2008 at 9:36 pmWe should be ashamed.
No matter how strenuously we deny it, Iraq is an unmitigated disaster and Afghanistan is moving in the wrong direction.
Our homeland is being overrun by the teaming hordes from south of the border.
We’ve pissed away a budget surplus into the largest deficit on record – and excused it by citing 9/11.
Isama bin Laden is still out there and we can’t even fix social security.
In a nutshell, we suck, and it should come as no surprise to us that people are abandoning ship in droves.
It only took 8 years to completely trash the country. Imagine the damage we could do with another 8 years in power?
TRoS,
Should we ramp it up? :D
February 14th, 2008 at 9:36 pmYa know, Guido, I’m feeling a TIDAL wave comin’ on this Nov.
A God-damned F-in’ TSUNAMI…
February 14th, 2008 at 9:37 pmMy son came down and told me McCrazy was on Larry King and snickering about Obama and Clinton. He, he.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:37 pmJust what the world needs and another snickering mutherfu(ker….NOT!
Comment by Merlin — February 14, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
I love the smell of wingnut despair in the evening. :-)
February 14th, 2008 at 9:38 pmGo fer, Z.
Hilarious post, Merlin…
Can’t say I feel one red cent of pity for those *ss-hats.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pmGeez, folks… feeling a bit snarky tonight, are we?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
It must be the “Olbermann Effect”, I’ll watch him again after THE Daily Show and The Colbert Report.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pmGo fer IT… it should have said…
February 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pmObama has been running ads every night on TV in Dallas. And in the bottom right corner of the screen in big ol’ letters:
Endorsed by Dallas Morning News
The morning news is a notorious righty mag.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:41 pmAnd no trolls here defending their beloved leader… in his time of need.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:41 pmZooey did you get a new batch of troll spray again???
February 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pmI am really hoping for the on air implosion of Rush. I want that to happen, right around September.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:43 pmGo fer IT… it should have said…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
Thank goodness. I was gonna smack you for calling me a gopher.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:44 pmSo, in the end, I think it can be said that George W. Botch was indeed a uniter after all.
We ALL hate him now.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pmone very logical explanation that randi explained, again today,
there are many (hundreds?) lawsuits in the works against these telcoms
that are being held up until this is resolved…
bushco wants immunity because that will eliminate these lawsuits
and prevent the next process, which is DISCOVERY…
bushco does not want the evidence of their criminal activity
in the public record…
it’s all about hiding BUSHCO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pmZooey did you get a new batch of troll spray again???
Comment by 99Luf Balloons — February 14, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Actually, I ran out. So I decided not to shower today. It’s been quite effective!
February 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pmWell, I never!
sputtering… Harumph…
February 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pmThey must be hurriedly preparing Paraguay as we type.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:46 pmit’s all about hiding BUSHCO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
Comment by katy — February 14, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
Perhaps even the fact that they were planning on doing this BEFORE 9/11?
February 14th, 2008 at 9:47 pmWell, I never!
sputtering… Harumph…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
Well, I didn’t smack ya!
February 14th, 2008 at 9:47 pmTrue… true…
February 14th, 2008 at 9:48 pmIt would have hurt…my hand. ;)
February 14th, 2008 at 9:49 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
Ya know, Guido, I’m feeling a TIDAL wave comin’ on this Nov.
A God-damned F-in’ TSUNAMI…
And so do the “social conservatives”. At least the ones over at MMs blog. The GOP (Glop Of Poop) is severely fractured. McBush will never win the hearts of “conservatives.” And he has moved way too far to the right to garner any Independents.
Meanwhile, Obama is stirring the Dems and Indies like we haven’t seen since the excitement of the sixties. Two poles moving rapidly apart. No wonder the “conservatives” are freaked and depressed!
February 14th, 2008 at 9:51 pmTrue… true…
I’ve just been scrolling thru some of the threads, and other than UL’s endless semantic battles, not too many trolls here today.
It must be SOOOO depressing being a troll these days.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:51 pmIt must be SOOOO depressing being a troll these days.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:51 pm
They’re miserable and piss-soaked on a good day, I can’t even imagine the state of them now.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:54 pmdid anyone else recognize the tone and sympathies expressed by
those righties?
sounded like some of the whiney dissatisfied progs here at times…
sorry to say, and i mean no personal offense… but, i was struck by that…
we’re ALL pissed off… but THEY are so deluded and uninformed,
it’s scary…
whatya think? :-]
February 14th, 2008 at 9:57 pmKeith’s video is up over at C&l
February 14th, 2008 at 9:58 pmPhoto Caption: Dinkledorf tryin’ to figure out the simplest thing. “Tryin’ to understand is hard work,” said the goofy, semi-human face of fascism.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:59 pmwhatya think? :-]
Comment by katy — February 14, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
I think anyone that buys into the garbage GOP dictum , is mentally feeble……
February 14th, 2008 at 10:00 pmComment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
I love the smell of wingnut despair in the evening. :-)
Ain’t it the truth? (Apologies to the Cowardly Lion)
And it will become more and more apparent as November approaches. All the arrogance and smug self righteousness we have had to put up with for 7 years is crumbling into desperation. And the stench that it provides. The death of the neocons is going to be an ugly affair, and like the rotting corpse that it is, the worms will have a field day!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:01 pmSomeone needs to bitch-slap Perino and knock all her fucking teeth out of her stupid head.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:01 pmYa know, Z, I’m fining it IMPOSSIBLE to feel sorry fer tha righties after this nightmare. They got what they wanted… total control of the country for the last six years, and they screwed up every last, single, solitary thing they could, including their OWN party.
And now it looks like they’re headed fer a whupping of historic proportions this fall…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… whew, that’s tiring…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:02 pmBit much, there, JPV.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:03 pm“We have a right to have honest football games” -Senator Arlen Specter
Now there’s one for the history books, huh? This is the joke who drawered all his judiciary and oversight duties for the “War President”.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:03 pmBread and circuses, Guido… bread and circuses…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:04 pmi’d like to see jpv GONE… that was too ugly.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:05 pmFlag ‘em, katy.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:05 pmPerhaps even the fact that they were planning on doing this BEFORE 9/11?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
especially that.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:06 pmUh… yeah, katy… especially that.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:08 pmComment by JPV — February 14, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
That’s out of line. Flagged.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:08 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… whew, that’s tiring…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
It seems like every time the Repubs get control of ANYTHING they screw it up — and then we have to clean up their damned messes. That costs money, naturally, and so they come back at us with the f_cking “tax and spend” thing — and the sheeple fall for it EVERY SINGLE TIME.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:10 pmIt does seem to work that way, doesn’t it?
Herr Brusch appears to be running out the clock at this point, hoping to dump his mess off on whoever follows.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:12 pmComment by katy — February 14, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
did anyone else recognize the tone and sympathies expressed by
those righties?
whatya think? :-]
I definitely did. Their tone and mood surprised me! I would venture 75% of the comments were like those I pasted. The depression hung in the air.
I have not really felt that kind of emotion here from the regulars, even though we SHOULD be severely depressed after 7 years of watching our country get dragged through the mud. But theat is the difference between us and them. We handle adversity well. They crumble at the least amount of pressure.
There would be no reason to water torture these social conservatives to get info. Just looking sternly at them would be enough to have them babbling everything.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:13 pm“And now it looks like they’re headed fer a whupping of historic proportions this fall…”
The wolf howls, and then snarls; a ragged, cough-like sound that echoes in the cold, snow-covered canyon. A pack of ravening former-elected officials circles, looking for an opening, all eyes on the blood – dripping from a freshly killed squirrel, lying at the wolf’s feet…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:14 pmThey believe the fiber optics lines are theirs to data mine to their hearts content. Both parties believe this to one degree or another. But the way Bush wants it done is even hard for the blue dogs to handle.
Data Mining and Total Information Awareness were killed by congress. And Bush, for some at the time baseless reason, decided he would implement it anyway. Then 911 happened. And he almost got away with it.
Cheney says American intelligence is inadequate to keep America safe.
I say bullshit.
And we’re gonna keep having this conversation becasue it’s everyday folks like you and me installing fiber optic and setting up spy centers in phone company main offices. Rock on. Televise this one.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:15 pmHerr Brusch appears to be running out the clock at this point, hoping to dump his mess off on whoever follows.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
I think that’s exactly the plan. Why else would they be running such bozos?
We just have to somehow keep the truth out there.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:17 pmWhich is why net neutrality is one of the most important issues in this country right now.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:18 pmRepublicans are coming to the hard reality that they are a fringe group that even the Evangelicals have abandoned.
The Republicans can’t do shit without Evangelicals. And the Evangelicals have started their own party. And good for them.
Republicans tried to soildify their grip on Evangelicals with Schiavo and passing invasive laws in the middle of the night. Amerca saw this and said “no thanks”.
No thanks~
February 14th, 2008 at 10:19 pmComment by JPV — February 14, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
No reason for this JPV. Flagged.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:19 pmZooey / Katy,
By all means, gather your pitchforks and torches, so that the whole country sees you. The Congress followed your lead for awhile, and ended up with an approval rating far south of dubya, record lows in fact, so please throw that same loadstone around Obama’s neck.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:20 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
Dream on Jason…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:21 pmAnybody hear a high-pitched squeaking sound? Kinda like a rodent w/ its privates caught in a wringer?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:22 pmIt’s not working anymore, Hendler. Your jig is up. Hang that around your neck.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:22 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
**setting match to strawman**
February 14th, 2008 at 10:22 pmThe Congress followed your lead for awhile, and ended up with an approval rating far south of dubya, record lows in fact, so please throw that same loadstone around Obama’s neck.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
This one smells especially bad. The reason that congress’ approval rating is so low is precisely because it did not follow Zooey and Katy’s lead.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pmOn February 5th, 2008 at 6:59 pm, rightisright said:
Oh, by the way Bush is a liberal…good against the war and taxes…liberal with most of the rest.
The above really gets me steamed ………..1st off , where in the hell has Shrub been “good” in regards to the “war” ?
Constantly meddling and replacing every life-long military man because they wouldn’t toe the line or because a scapegoat was needed qualifies as “good” ?
What the hell is that ?
And where is it also “good” when you keep taxes down but run up a mind-boggling deficit/debt ?
And finally ; this whole line of how Shrub is in any way “liberal” is downright untrue and needs to stop.
The Cancervatives were singing the moron’s praises for years , and are now trying to claim otherwise ?
Screw that……….
February 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pmAnybody hear a high-pitched squeaking sound? Kinda like a rodent w/ its privates caught in a wringer?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa. (Wiping tears from eyes.)
February 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pmGood one, Z.
Where is that shrill, desperate, high-pitched squealing coming from?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pm**setting match to strawman**
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
Nice Zooey! Fighting fire with fire!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pmYo, Jmh
February 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pmTo paraphrase the jewish slaves in “the ten commandments” make arguments without straw? how can you make arguments without straw?!?!?
Where is that shrill, desperate, high-pitched squealing coming from?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
Check your trap. You’re gonna want to get rid of that thing ASAP. Ick.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:27 pmZooey / Katy,
By all means, gather your pitchforks and torches, so that the whole country sees you. The Congress followed your lead for awhile, and ended up with an approval rating far south of dubya, record lows in fact, so please throw that same loadstone around Obama’s neck.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
February 14th, 2008 at 10:27 pmDo you write your stupid piss-poor posts in an insane attempt to match the number of lies your fearless leader has spewed , Henpecked ?
More than one of the trolls has been trying that of late, MC… passing Botch off as a “liberal” and therefore, not their responsibility.
It’s a bit like shooting skeet. They let ‘em fly and we blow ‘em outta the sky!
Pul!!! KA_Boom! Pull!! KA_Boom!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pmAs KeithOlbermann said tonight…they are fascist pigs. All Republican, the knuckle dragging, 28% group of troglodytes are as un-American as they come. The group that walked out of congress today brings the rating of congress down…they are obstructionists.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pmIck.
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 10:27 pm
I dunno.. mebbe tha wolf pack is feelin’ a little peckish…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pmThe group of rethugs that walked out in a preplanned show of backing BushCo have done as Hendler suggests. Hung a lodestone around the neck of McBush.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:33 pmJMH simply can’t understand why we (katy & I) would not be afraid to “gather your pitchforks and torches, so that the whole country sees you,” like he would be.
Our government may be screwed up, and our rights pissed into the wind, but I will never live in fear of my government.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pmHi Dana, should we cut off all the left arms of people who disagree with you?….is the earth flat?…what does I.Q. stand for?….Is the ‘bay of pigs’ in Kansas?….etc…..ukkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
February 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pmI dunno.. mebbe tha wolf pack is feelin’ a little peckish…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:29 pm
I’m not sure even a wold pack would touch something that rancid.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:35 pmComment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
Our government may be screwed up, and our rights pissed into the wind, but I will never live in fear of my government.
Bravo! Hear! Hear!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:35 pmHung a lodestone around the neck of McBush.
Comment by Merlin — February 14, 2008 @ 10:33 pm
Who in turn is the albatross around their necks…
What’s that snake that eats its own tail?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:38 pmYer prolly right about that, Z…
*** pssst… uh, don’t tell Wolf-girl I said that, okay…???***
February 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pmBravo! Hear! Hear!
Comment by Merlin — February 14, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
**blush** Thanks, Merlin.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pmBush and his White House are ridiculous – congress is supposed to cave to them, but they’re not supposed to do what the voters want?
They all need to take remedial civics classes.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:40 pmI was going to be snarky and tell the troll to go post at the Al Jazeera web site and saw this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/91D4E785-6C56-4369-8FE0-704C5259C4E7.htm
I thought it interesting who people in the Middle East voted for and wonder why?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:41 pm*** pssst… uh, don’t tell Wolf-girl I said that, okay…???***
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
Deal. ;)
February 14th, 2008 at 10:41 pmFrom an email I received from Rep Wexler today
February 14th, 2008 at 10:42 pm“I am pleased to inform you that today’s legislation allows Congress to bypass the Attorney General (who has stated to me this week that he would not enforce contempt) and immediately take action in the courts.”
Nearly 80% of the ME voters went for Mittens? WTF???
That is SERIOUSLY weird, St Augie…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:44 pmComment by RUCerious — February 14, 2008 @ 10:42 pm
Sweeeeet…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:44 pmI thought about y’all flagging jpv, because of his sentiment regarding Perino, and I was wondering if he’d have been flagged for suggesting she be waterboarded. The way the regulars jumped on his comment smacks of political correctness and a little of groupspeak.
Just sayin’.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:45 pmComment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
She’s kinda scary, ya know… ** sniff… sniff**
February 14th, 2008 at 10:45 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — February 14, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
Sorry Marcus, I don’t advocate or support any sort of violence toward another person.
I don’t know what “regulars” you’re talking about.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:47 pmUh…right…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:48 pmShe’s kinda scary, ya know… ** sniff… sniff**
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
I know. And she’s always picking on you…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:48 pmI don’t think most of us expect anyone in the Admin to be water boarded, Marcus, even though the idea does have a certain piquant charm to it. I do object to the suggestion that “knocking all her phucking teeth out” is on the same plane and stand by my and the others comments on that one.
But hey, I’ve been flamed here for objecting to folks wanting to see certain members of the admin strung up… whattareyagonna do?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:49 pmUh…right…
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 14, 2008 @ 10:48 pm
What are you saying, Marcus?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:49 pm**sniff… sniff** Yes, she is…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:50 pmAs much as I dislike Dana Purina, I wouldn’t take to doing physical harm to her. Just makes for bad karma.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:51 pmI would like to wish her a great permanent vacation in hell after she passes, though.
**sniff… sniff** Yes, she is…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
You’re not trying to sneak up on me, are you? :-D
February 14th, 2008 at 10:51 pmUh, me???
Would I do something like that?
**sniff… sniff**
February 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pmI thought about y’all flagging jpv, because of his sentiment regarding Perino, and I was wondering if he’d have been flagged for suggesting she be waterboarded. The way the regulars jumped on his comment smacks of political correctness and a little of groupspeak.
Just sayin’.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 14, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
February 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pmAnyone that suggests violence directed at a woman as being unacceptable is hardly guilty of “political correctness” and/or “groupspeak”………
I could have sworn I heard someone in the administration say the Justice dept wasn’t going to enforce the contempt citation, glad to see the congress isn’t relying on that…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pmTRoS and Zooey, you both got colds, or what is that zipping over my head???
February 14th, 2008 at 10:53 pmI have no doubt about that RU…
Don’t they have lock-up in the basement of the House?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:54 pmIs that a picture of a chymp staring at a monitor and wondering where the hell the internets are hiding inside it?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:55 pmJust an on-going joke, RU…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:55 pmI thought about y’all flagging jpv, because of his sentiment regarding Perino, and I was wondering if he’d have been flagged for suggesting she be waterboarded. The way the regulars jumped on his comment smacks of political correctness and a little of groupspeak.
Just sayin’.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 14, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
I have, and will, continue to flag inappropriate posts by anyone. As a regular here they demean, not only the target, but the reputation of TP and me by extension as well. It behooves all of us to self police this blog, with the help of TP.
I have not made all my flags public in the past, however I will be doing that from now on. I want the person to know that he was flagged and who flagged him.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:55 pmTRoS, those are reserved for INHERENT CONTEMPT violators.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:55 pmHe’s trying to figure out which door has the banana behind it.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmComment by RUCerious — February 14, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
That was Mukasey — the wanker.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmOK, TRoS, I was going to send you some virtual kleenex…
February 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pmMucky sure knows the facking law, NOT>.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:57 pmThen what does this mean, RU?
What does Waxman do next?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:57 pmTRoS, those are reserved for INHERENT CONTEMPT violators.
Comment by RUCerious — February 14, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
The contempt charge Congress ought to be using, but is too chicken to do so.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:57 pmBy all means, gather your pitchforks and torches, so that the whole country sees you. The Congress followed your lead for awhile, and ended up with an approval rating far south of dubya, record lows in fact, so please throw that same loadstone around Obama’s neck.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
Yo, moron. It’s a “millstone” around the neck. A “lodestone” is something you use like a compass.
What a putz.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:58 pmAnd we’re gonna keep having this conversation becasue it’s everyday folks like you and me installing fiber optic and setting up spy centers in phone company main offices. Rock on. Televise this one.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 10:15 pm
The only to way to totally screw the TIA program is for everyone to go everywhere and call anyone. Their patterns would be screwed.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmI used to flag rob roy the instant he showed up, Merlin. can’t say I miss that one at all. I agree w/ what you said.
February 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:44 pm
I see that that page was last updated on 1-31. I’ll have to check there more often to see if they take off those who have dropped out of the race. Looks like Canada, Europe and Australia have some Ron Paul fans along with that crazy number for Romney. If it wasn’t for that 78% it looks like Barack is liked by the rest of the world, except the Middle East.
Is there a large Morman population over there? LOL
February 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pmDamn, gummitch… I KNEW there was something wrong in there, and that was it.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:00 pmjust got back… finally got to C&L to see about keith olbermann’s
SPECIAL COMMENT…
holy cow! … i hope he lives through the night!
i could only read the transcript … will try to stay awake for the repeat
show later, after jon and stephen…
but wow… we owe a HUGE debt to that man…
THANK YOU, KEITH… TAKE CARE – BE SAFE!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:00 pmApart from the inanity and pointlessness of Hendler’s posts, in general.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pmMucky sure knows the facking law, NOT>.
Comment by RUCerious — February 14, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Mucky was the Judge in the Jose Padilla case, and on the case between Larry Silverstein and various insurance companies who insured the WTC, and he defends the Patriot Act.
Need to know more?
February 14th, 2008 at 11:01 pmDamn, gummitch… I KNEW there was something wrong in there, and that was it.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
I knew thaaaat, (and never even noticed it!)
February 14th, 2008 at 11:02 pmIs there a large Morman population over there? LOL
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
Perhaps it’s the hair and those “shoulders to die for”…
February 14th, 2008 at 11:02 pmMukasey also doesn’t know if water-torture is torture, and is good buddies with Rudy Giuliani.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:02 pmMy brain caught it (loadstone) and automatically fixed it for Hendler so I heard MILLstone…
February 14th, 2008 at 11:04 pmComment by Merlin — February 14, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
All I noticed was that he misspelled “loadstone.”
February 14th, 2008 at 11:05 pmAll I noticed was that he misspelled “loadstone.â€
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 11:05 pm
Yeah, I corrected it in my comment. Thought I was doing good!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:07 pmComment by 99Luf Balloons — February 14, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
There were already complaints by FBI that false leads generated by Data Mining were clogging the system.
I do not believe Data Mining could ever be effective at stopping terrorism. Quite the contrary I think.
The million dollar question is: What in the hell have they been doing with all this information that they are presumeably still collecting?????????
February 14th, 2008 at 11:08 pmCongress Caving To ‘The Fantasies Of Left-Wing Bloggers’
Man is that a mill of shit. Oops, sorry, hehe, load of shit. If congress was caving to the fantasies of the left-wing bloggers then Cheney would have been impeached and Bush would have been impeached and a few more republican senators would have lost their standing in the senate and the occupation of Iraq would be over and Osama would be on trail in the Hague and Gitmo would be closed and on and on and on and on…..
of course those nutbar righties would think it was a nightmare and not a left wing fantasy because it would be reality.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:10 pmThe million dollar question is: What in the hell have they been doing with all this information that they are presumeably still collecting?????????
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
What ever it is they have less than a year to do it in. Out of power it will do them no good.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:10 pmThe million dollar question is: What in the hell have they been doing with all this information that they are presumeably still collecting?????????
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
Cheney has it in his man size safe in his office.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:12 pm“Do you trust the intelligence community more than you trust Democrats who are beholden to their left-wing?” – dana,even the right wing doesn’t trust the intelligence community!! – remember the backlash over the n.i.e. report on iran?
“The American people will find it baffling that on a day that House leaders are trying to put off passing critical legislation to keep us safer from the threat of foreign terrorists overseas…” – dana if the foreign terrorists overseas are the threat then why are you spying on people at home? – and i thought that was why “we’re fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here…”
lying sack of cute is as dellusional as the people on whose behalf she speaks.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:13 pmTRoS
I used their web feedback form and asked when they would update the poll and if they would remove the drop outs. I also asked for an explanation for the Romney vote. Now I guess I’ll be on the watch list for communicating with them. Should I be worried? LOL
February 14th, 2008 at 11:18 pmI think it goes to the federal courts now, not sure of what transpires after that…
February 14th, 2008 at 11:19 pm(commercial break)
We just have to somehow keep the truth out there.
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 10:17 pm
Which is why net neutrality is one of the most important issues in this country right now.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 10:18 pm
EXACTLY!
ALWAYS BE VIGILANT.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:19 pmwhy is it the democrats rarely publicly point out the hypocrisy of statements like this. bowing to the left-wing bloggers? how about the past 7 years of bowing to the religious right?
the white house lately has been accusing the dems of everything they themselves are guilty of and this seems to fly over everyone’s head. this is one of the obstacles dems must overcome and now. start fighting stronger. it works for the repubs everytime, now spit it back!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:21 pmWhat in the hell have they been doing with all this information that they are presumeably still collecting?????????
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
We DO data mining at our company, and we’re looking for patterns like what you bought, and what other kinds of related things did you buy that create patterns for our buyers to leverage.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:23 pmDetails like phone calls wouldn’t show up as any kind of pattern, unless they were dumb enough to all call each other on a regular basis.
dana if the foreign terrorists overseas are the threat then why are you spying on people at home? – and i thought that was why “we’re fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here…â€
We’re spying on you here so we can spy on them there.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:25 pmRight. O.
Caption: And when I press this lil button, wow! out pops a cup holder~!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pmWhat ever it is they have less than a year to do it in. Out of power it will do them no good.
Comment by Merlin — February 14, 2008 @ 11:10 pm
If McCain wins, they’ll pass it along to him. You think he’d turn it down?
But if a Dem wins, the info will, er, magically disappear.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pmBut if a Dem wins, the info will, er, magically disappear.
Comment by Bad Eye — February 14, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
They’ll shred the emails on the internets for sure. Probably contract with a pointy hair manager to handle it.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:28 pmShould I be worried? LOL
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 11:18 pm
I have to say, in all honesty, it was probably noticed and noted somewhere, dude. I just followed the link you provided w/out voting, and I was afraid of the same thing.
Gawd… isn’t that horrible? Afraid to even go looking for information.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:31 pmWhat in the hell have they been doing with all this information that they are presumeably still collecting?????????
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
Selling it to the Home Shopping Network…
February 14th, 2008 at 11:33 pmALWAYS BE VIGILANT.
Comment by katy — February 14, 2008 @ 11:19 pm
W/ a free and open ‘net, there is hope.
February 14th, 2008 at 11:35 pmSelling it to the Home Shopping Network…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
There’s something to be afraid of….
February 14th, 2008 at 11:36 pmIt scares me, Z… how many more George Foreman “Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machines” can the average American household need?
February 14th, 2008 at 11:40 pmIt scares me, Z… how many more George Foreman “Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machines†can the average American household need?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
Oh no, I’m below average….
Is that an exercise machine or a cooker thing?
February 14th, 2008 at 11:42 pmDetails like phone calls wouldn’t show up as any kind of pattern, unless they were dumb enough to all call each other on a regular basis.
Comment by RUCerious — February 14, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
Which is exactly what I have been questioning since the deal with the telcos became public. There is no way you can spot a terrorist simply by looking at who tens of millions of people have been calling. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Bush (or another admin official) say that they weren’t collecting the names of phone company customers…only the phone numbers and calling patterns?
But…let’s say that someone in the government has the cell phone numbers of certain people like, oh, members of Congress. And they want to know who’s been calling who.
Now, if you follow the law and get a warrant and ask for all the records of a certain number (which just happens to belong to, say, John Kerry, but you don’t reveal that info to the telco), and then do this for, oh, every member of Congress, odds are that someone is going to take a peep at who the numbers belong to. Busted!
But, if you say “Give us the records of all of your customers because we need to track terrorists and prevent another attack,” then it doesn’t look as suspicious.
So now Bush and Co. know who members of Congress have been talking to, and all they gotta do is start monitoring the phone calls, looking for those *ahem* key words that might “signify an impending attack.”
February 14th, 2008 at 11:43 pmComment by Bad Eye — February 14, 2008 @ 11:43 pm
I’m sure this is why Mizz Nancy is unable to find a table….
February 14th, 2008 at 11:45 pmJust saw Keith Olbermann with another Special Comment. I wholeheartly agree with everything he said. I trust TP will post a video for all to see.
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
If TP doesn’t post the video, Crooksandliars.com always does.
Comment by Bad Eye — February 14, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
Here it is in case no one has posted it:
February 14th, 2008 at 11:46 pmCountdown Special Comment on FISA: President Bush Is A Liar And A Fascist
It scares me, Z… how many more George Foreman “Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machines†can the average American household need?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
Maybe one that not only effortlessly cooks the food for you, but also consumes the meal for you. It’s the next wave in cutting fat (and everything else) from your diet!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:48 pmI’m sure this is why Mizz Nancy is unable to find a table….
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 11:45 pm
You got that right. Wayyyy too convenient, that declaration of hers.
I’d be happy to find her a table and put it right up her…well, you get the picture (disgusting as it may be).
February 14th, 2008 at 11:53 pmGawd… isn’t that horrible? Afraid to even go looking for information.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 11:31 pm
Well I’m 63 so I figure I’ve more than passed the half way point of my life a while ago, plus my father dropped dead at 66, so what the hell, you know.
I used to read evreything and anything, under the covers late at night, from the light glow of the vacuum tubes of a radio in the 50’s, so the internet is a wonderful thing in my way of thinking. I been called a Sexual Intellectual by my friends, a nice way of saying I’m a phucking know-it-all!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:54 pmI’d be happy to find her a table and put it right up her…well, you get the picture (disgusting as it may be).
Comment by Bad Eye — February 14, 2008 @ 11:53 pm
Right up under her articles of impeachment? ;)
February 14th, 2008 at 11:54 pmIs that an exercise machine or a cooker thing?
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
Both! And George is bringing out a new model w/ a cell phone built in, too!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:55 pmIt’s the next wave in cutting fat (and everything else) from your diet!
Comment by Bad Eye — February 14, 2008 @ 11:48 pm
And therefore, wouldn’t the next logical step be a machine that also…
February 14th, 2008 at 11:56 pmI been called a Sexual Intellectual by my friends, a nice way of saying I’m a phucking know-it-all!!!
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
Now THAT’s funny. You get the TRoS Seal of Approvalâ„¢ fer that one!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:57 pmI been called a Sexual Intellectual by my friends, a nice way of saying I’m a phucking know-it-all!!!
Comment by Saint Augustine — February 14, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
February 14th, 2008 at 11:57 pmCaption:
“Does this here thing pick up reruns of Howdy Doody?”
February 14th, 2008 at 11:57 pmCaption:
(Girl in foreground, thinking to herself): “Damn that blue tie! I can’t see my screen!”
February 14th, 2008 at 11:59 pmRight up under her articles of impeachment? ;)
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
As Bush would say, “Heh heh!”
February 15th, 2008 at 12:06 amCaption:
Bush: “You all bloggin’ on the Internets?”
Person in background, laughing: “Oh, Mr. President. Everyone knows it’s the ‘Internet.’ You are so witty!”
February 15th, 2008 at 12:08 amCaption:
“Is this one of those cornputers? Dick says you can get nekkid wimmen on these things.”
February 15th, 2008 at 12:30 am“Congress is caving in to my fantasies?
Damn, I was trying to aim them at George Clooney…”
Oh, you can’t tell me if a single Feingold came onto you you wouldn’t swoon!
February 15th, 2008 at 1:18 amCaption :
“Yeehaa………My Pet Goat on the internets”
February 15th, 2008 at 1:19 amI am thinking the non-DINOs are caving into the Constitution. The other ones need to go.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:20 am“Senator Cornyn says if the Telcos are sued for millions then the Telcos might accidentally leak intelligence.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 8:32 pm”
If you poke a Republican with a stick they might accidentally leak intelligence…but I doubt it.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:21 am“Senator Cornyn says if the Telcos are sued for millions then the Telcos might accidentally leak intelligence.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 8:32 pmâ€
If you poke a Republican with a stick they might accidentally leak intelligence…but I doubt it.
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 1:21 am
February 15th, 2008 at 1:23 amAs opposed to Fat Bastard Limpballs , who would leak about 1,500 lbs of cheese………..
“Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
Can anyone translate what this idiot is saying into English?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 14, 2008 @ 9:24 pm”
No point. His point is blunted by always losing. He is a shell of his former troll.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:24 am“On NPR on the way home tonight they were interviewing Republicans in a Wisconsin restaraunt-all of them-to a man-voting Democrat.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — February 14, 2008 @ 9:35 pm”
You wouldn’t happen to know where, would you? If it is Janesville, where he just visited the GM plant (where they are laying off buy the hundreds) it would be the nail in Hillary’s coffin. Janesville is a pit of Republican darkness most years.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:26 am“As opposed to Fat Bastard Limpballs , who would leak about 1,500 lbs of cheese………..
Comment by MCMetal — February 15, 2008 @ 1:23 am”
I am betting on pure evil.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:28 amOh, you can’t tell me if a single Feingold came onto you you wouldn’t swoon!
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 1:18 am
No, I couldn’t tell you that. :-)
February 15th, 2008 at 1:37 amReminds me of the incident last year between Rove and Sheryl Crow:
We are the American people, moron.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:38 am“No, I couldn’t tell you that. :-)
Comment by Zooey — February 15, 2008 @ 1:37 am”
Hehe, well, if he had the right parts I would be all over her! :)
February 15th, 2008 at 1:42 amHehe, well, if he had the right parts I would be all over her! :)
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 1:42 am
Thank goodness he doesn’t. :)
February 15th, 2008 at 1:44 amI would have a real dilemma wouldn’t I?? Really, I would say the same about the late, great Paul Wellstone. It is so rare to have such incredible integrity in politicians.
February 15th, 2008 at 1:50 amThank you for saying NO to creeping American fascism.
Bump to #237
Why is it always the best?
February 15th, 2008 at 2:03 amFeingold is alive and kicking and I plan on voting for him at least 4 more times until he is old and grey and beyond. It would have been nice to have him and Wellstone together for a lot longer (and Wellstone’s family as well). It is a shame.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:08 amOur government may be screwed up, and our rights pissed into the wind, but I will never live in fear of my government.
Comment by Zooey — February 14, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
Nor will I. And a step further, I will also not live in fear of some pseudo “terrorists” created by my government to scare me into giving up my rights and the rights of my fellow Americans. Do not be afraid – the fascists have more fear-mongering – and possible attacks to keep us Americans in line. Stick together and be good.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:09 amComment by green — February 15, 2008 @ 2:09 am
I view our government as the more imminent threat — terrorists hold no terror for me.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:14 amOT – recomended movie “Across the Universe” – remember how we used to be?
February 15th, 2008 at 2:16 am“I view our government as the more imminent threat — terrorists hold no terror for me.
Comment by Zooey — February 15, 2008 @ 2:14 am”
You DO live in Idaho and I live in Wisconsin (not high priority targets) but I am going to go with the NY attitude…FU Bush, you are more dangerous than any terrorist.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:17 amZooey – I agee completely – neither holds terror although they appear to try. What did FDR say about one of humanities basic freedoms — Freedom from fear. I have no fear – uncertainty, yes – fear, no.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:20 amComment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 2:17 am
Yes, but BushCo tries to scare the pants off everyone in this country — and there are A LOT of bedwetters in this state who fall every word of it. It’s ridiculous.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:22 amNot sure about that green. What happens if there is an incident before the election that “causes” Bush to declare martial law and suspend elections. It may not be likely but tell me it is beyond your imagination. I am thinking fear would be appropriate…and revolution.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:24 amI just visited Idaho a few weeks ago – it was quite beautiful, all snowy and open skies. I’m on the Puget Sound – cold and rainy all the time.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:27 am“Yes, but BushCo tries to scare the pants off everyone in this country — and there are A LOT of bedwetters in this state who fall every word of it. It’s ridiculous.
Comment by Zooey — February 15, 2008 @ 2:22 am”
Oh, I know that, for sure. His disciples keep Depends in business. Just look at Southern Man. The guy needs a change every 5 minutes because terrorists have killed about 400 people every year for the last decade. I think there MUST be a psychological term for the irrational fear of terrorists.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:27 am“I just visited Idaho a few weeks ago – it was quite beautiful, all snowy and open skies. I’m on the Puget Sound – cold and rainy all the time.
Comment by green — February 15, 2008 @ 2:27 am”
Heh, actually the upper NW is the only other part of the country I would consider moving to. Snow is great for a couple of weeks (usually around Christmas.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:29 amSabyen — I am aware of these concerns and I have them to. It would be all too convenient especially as “they” continually pull out the fear card – every time, everywhere. Something is brewing to be sure. What? I don’t know.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:30 am“Sabyen — I am aware of these concerns and I have them to. It would be all too convenient especially as “they†continually pull out the fear card – every time, everywhere. Something is brewing to be sure. What? I don’t know.
Comment by green — February 15, 2008 @ 2:30 am”
Funny thing is I don’t think anything will happen…after all these clowns have pulled. I hope it isn’t just wishful thinking. I just don’t think they could pull it off.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:32 amOh, I know that, for sure. His disciples keep Depends in business. Just look at Southern Man. The guy needs a change every 5 minutes because terrorists have killed about 400 people every year for the last decade. I think there MUST be a psychological term for the irrational fear of terrorists.
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 2:27 am
LOL!!!!
Yeah – the NW is great, beautiful really. I’m from Port Townsend originally – the most liberal county in the state.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:33 amMy state is quite pretty as well and I am close to, as Bill O’Reilly, the mecca of Satan worshippers, Madison. I love my state (even though we have too many rednecks) but I would move to Wash or Oregon if I had to if I could visit WI for a couple of weeks in the winter. All that rain really sounds nice to me. Weird, I guess.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:37 amI just visited Idaho a few weeks ago – it was quite beautiful, all snowy and open skies. I’m on the Puget Sound – cold and rainy all the time.
Comment by green — February 15, 2008 @ 2:27 am
What part of the state were you in? I’m in Moscow. Lots of snow this winter.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:37 am“What part of the state were you in? I’m in Moscow. Lots of snow this winter.
Comment by Zooey — February 15, 2008 @ 2:37 am”
Ohhh, you commie pinko!
February 15th, 2008 at 2:38 amOhhh, you commie pinko!
Comment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 2:38 am
Oh lordy, I never heard that before! :D
I better get to bed. Lordy…. Goodnight, all.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:41 amYeah, me too. I need to either find a job and/or file for unemployment after my lay-off. Love this booming Bush economy. :(
February 15th, 2008 at 2:42 amComment by Sabyen91 — February 15, 2008 @ 2:37 am
We have too much rain – but that can also be a good thing. Where I grew up, near the Straits and the San Juan Islands – it is less rainy, but very windy. Another good place – with good people and great music is Anacortes. Apparently the baby boomer retirement capital. Check it out.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:42 amNight Zooey – fun as always. See being in the NW is a good thing – everyone else has checked out and things become mellow…………..night all
February 15th, 2008 at 2:44 amMost people around here retire to Florida or Arizona. I hate both states with a passion. Gotta say Washington would be much, much better. Have a good night, green. Nice to meet you.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:45 amOops Zooey – I visited Kooskie and Kamiah – near the Nez Perce. Played in the snow for a few days. Beautiful!!!
February 15th, 2008 at 2:46 amNice to meet you Sabyen — all will be well in time.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:48 amOops Zooey – I visited Kooskie and Kamiah – near the Nez Perce. Played in the snow for a few days. Beautiful!!!
Comment by green — February 15, 2008 @ 2:46 am
OMG, I love and Kooskia and Kamiah areas. Gorgeous! I lived in Orofino for seven years. It’s downriver a few miles. Small world!
I really am going now…
February 15th, 2008 at 2:52 amI wish that Bush would have been just a right wing fantasy and not a reality. Can’t he just shut and go cut some brush somewhere in Texas? Someone hand that cardboard cowboy a chain saw.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:55 amGood night Zooey – a visit to those places refreshes the soul. Take care.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:00 amSeems to me that what scares the political establishment most about bloggers – of whatever “wing” you like – is that blogging represents unfiltered dialogue, which directly threatens their ability to control the terms of public discourse.
Those elected officials who know how to work with and relate to the blogosphere will be the more successful of politicos to come. The environment has changed, and candidates dismiss or diss the blogosphere at their peril.
Anyone catch Lee Siegel on “The Daily Show” tonight, flogging his new book? There he was blaming the medium (the Internet) for what he sees as the message (impersonal, uncertain, not credible) and its overall degradation of human discourse overall, when he himself was suspended from his column in The New Republic after making comments supportive of his authorial self on his own TNR blog, as the sockpuppet “sprezzatura.”
Yup…the establishment is scared to death of the blogosphere…because we’re onto them and we’re onto their own tricks as well.
February 15th, 2008 at 3:42 amSorry Marcus…..I don’t know what “regulars” you’re talking about.
Comment by Zooey
Ohh the irony!!; can’t see the forest for the trees there, can ya, Maude.
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February 15th, 2008 at 3:49 amstopobama08.blogspot.com
looks like some people don’t want this thing to be over yet…
February 15th, 2008 at 3:54 amComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 14, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
I believe that there is some kernal of truth to these statements from Mr. Hendler.
Given Barack Obama’s overtaking Hillary Clinton in the primary race, the ugly side of the GOP Establishment will eventually show. Confident in their eventual success at using race-baiting, especially in the South against Obama, these operatives are just salivating in hopes of making very distasteful slants against African-Americans with code word phrases and suggestive hints at racism in TV ads (i.e. the Harold Ford Playboy Mansion ad).
Those are exactly the types of statements that turn Independents off. Given that the GOP is based purely on image and propaganda, it would not serve them well to actually run on the issues instead of showing their true face.
February 15th, 2008 at 4:28 amI….can’t……hear……anything…republicans….keep……crapping in my ears…..please….send……….help
February 15th, 2008 at 6:11 amNor will I. And a step further, I will also not live in fear of some pseudo “terrorists†created by my government to scare me into giving up my rights and the rights of my fellow Americans. Do not be afraid – the fascists have more fear-mongering – and possible attacks to keep us Americans in line. Stick together and be good.
Comment by green — February 15, 2008 @ 2:09 am
Exactly. The “War on Terror” is a load of crap. It’s unwinnable, by design.
There will always be radicalized groups willing and able to use violence to advance their political aims, be they radical Maoists in Nepal or radical Islamists in Algeria or brainwashed child soldiers in Uganda. These aren’t trumped-up pseudoterrorists – they’re real. And they’re often inadvertently created by our government when we prop up dictators.
There are some pretty brutal governments out there, too – just look at Kenya, Sudan, Uzbekistan, China, Egypt, and plenty of others. They spread terror among the people within their borders, and we’re not invading them anytime soon. Sometimes they even get a nod and a wink from our government.
The only way to fight both kinds of terror is through diplomacy and soft power. Military intervention only breeds it. We need a new crop of leaders in power who recognize this.
February 15th, 2008 at 6:41 amActually, what has REALLY been happening over the last several years is Congress caving in to the fantasies of the White House….without questioning.
February 15th, 2008 at 7:34 amDNI McConnell has already been on NPR this morning (Friday) talking about how critical it is we give retro immunity to Telcos.
February 15th, 2008 at 7:39 amThe real threat to America is the systematic erosion of the checks and balances of our government and the Administration’s arrogant disregard for the Constitution.
Bush uses these “show-down” moments to drag out the fear wagon. Before this election cycle is over you can rest assured Bush Co. will ratchet the fear level to new heights.
February 15th, 2008 at 7:48 amFirst off, there is no doubt in my mind that we, as a country, are going to get hit by terrorism again. It’s a matter of fact. (Whether our government is the one doing it…I wouldn’t put it past them. Something about Bush and his tirade about URGERT URGENT NOW NOW NOW OR ELSE has me creeped out.) Anyone who thinks that we are immune or that it won’t happen is delusional. It’s how those people operate.
The War on Terror is a farce. Nothing they do – well, perhaps reading the daily presidental briefings and intel reports might help, but that is past this admin’s abilities – is going to stop it. It might delay it, but not stop it.
They don’t hate us for our “freedoms” which we no longer have, they hate us because we interfere with their lives in ways that are not good for them, which in turn makes them not good for us. (Interesting read about 21st century conflict here: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/14/05542/7695 ) I doubt we will stop doing that because it’s what we do best. We give Saddam weapons and then say don’t use them. We give Pakistan nukes and then chide them. WE, our government, is a great cause of suffering around the world. And WE, THE PEOPLE are now reaping the “rewards” of those in power.
Basically, we’re f()cked.
As for the Middle East liking Romney, I think the people who have “voted” on Al Jazeera were from Israel, for those are the only people in the ME that I can think of what would want to double Gitmo and have continuing war.
Just MHO.
February 15th, 2008 at 7:51 amahh….the power of the pen. Looks like left wing bloggers are more in touch with the pulse of america than congress and el jefe combined!
It’s not the left wing bloggers which this white house has to fear; it’s the right to free speech which is the only right which Bushitco hasn’t usurped from the people. And it’s not that he hasn’t tried to shut down the internet because he has. He knows it’s the last bastion of free speech left and has become a thorn in his side.
Why do you think so many GOPigs are leaving congress in droves? If I’m being strictly altruistic, I’d love to think that it’s because they’ve become disgusted with their party and politics in Washington; if I’m being cynical (and perhaps more accurate) then I’d have to say that they’re “running scared” because they can no longer get away with their chicanery and shenanigans any longer.
The internet has made it damn near impossible for these thugs to do business as usual without being “outed” immediately.
February 15th, 2008 at 8:09 amMs Joanne: The Bush crime cabal’s transparency is laughable. Just last week the AIPAC insider (Joe liverlips Lieberman) who heads the Nat’l Security committee called for a “trial run” to see how prepared this country is for a nuclear attack….hmmmmm…..getting ready for another false flag and showing their hand in error? One has to wonder. It’s been done before and it may be their only card left in the waning GOPig deck.
February 15th, 2008 at 8:11 amAs for retro immunity, if the Dems cave in and throw away our rights that easily, they know they may lose in 08 because the people will never let them forget it. And if they stand firm, they can parrot Keith Olberman’s great words last evening (crooksandliars.com). He stated that Bush is a fascist because he’d rather protect the telecoms (big business) than americans. He vetoed the bill so he can’t be too concerned about keeping us safe, can he? Besides, he has a full year during which the bill can still be enforced – it doesn’t expire immediately.
So it would be George W. Bush who would be “responsible” if this country is attacked and not congress (or the dems as they’re painting it). He’s the one who vetoed the bill without telecom immunity.
Besides, he won’t even tell congress what these telecoms did so how can congress even begin to give them immunity? Immunity – for what? This is a high crime and he needs to be punished for it. During the time he was violating our rights he was on television giving speeches about how he is not “spying on americans without a warrant”. Not only did he break the law by spying illegally; he lied about it repeatedly while he was breaking the law. And what was Nixon impeached for??? Where has the morality and conviction of this country gone since then? How many lies has Bush told us now?? Who’s counting? It makes one’s head spin.
So his talking head morons had better be careful what they’re spinning. The people need to hold these propagandists (like McConnell) accountable for their lies as well and prosecute them along with the Bush cabal.
It’s Bush and his cadre of fools whom we have to fear in this country. It’s Bush and his cadre of fools who have hijacked our constitution and rights. It’s Bush and his cadre of fools who will be solely and totally responsible for any lapse in protection he claims the rejection of telecom immunity may present.
BUSH AND BUSH ALONE IS TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE AND THE BUCK STOPS AT HIS DESK – AS IT ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL. BUSH DOESN’T GET A GET OUT JAIL FREE PASS ON THIS ONE.
February 15th, 2008 at 8:20 amQuote for the picture: “Yes Mr. President, that’s ‘the Google’”
February 15th, 2008 at 8:20 amThe Bush crime cabal’s transparency is laughable.
Ah, to us, the informed, it is. When that next attack comes, how well will Bobby Jo in Godforsakenland understand? It’s those people who the GOP always go to when they scream DADDY’S HERE TO PROTECT YOU for those people in Nowhereville, US are the ones who know so little, watch FOX for all their wisdom, and can’t or don’t read. They accept everything at face value and with our MSM so out of touch and out for corporate greed (and power?) only, it takes alot of desire to really learn what’s going on. And this is where all the gooper talking points (of bull$shit) comes into play.
If we don’t do something to educate our masses, we are going to be in a world of hurt with it getting worse daily.
February 15th, 2008 at 8:20 amOh, and when I talk about a world of hurt, I am not talking only politically. I am talking about our population and how or whether said population will survive or thrive. Big difference.
February 15th, 2008 at 8:28 amWould that there were Democrats who would listen to the “left wing”. Maybe then we’d have people working for universal healthcare, a nationalized energy industry that serves the people instead of investors, and publicly-funded elections so that corporate money and lobbyists are forced out of the process.
Were that Congress truly would be “the people’s House” where OUR interests are represented and not just those of the rich and powerful.
February 15th, 2008 at 9:07 amAnyone else notice the student in the back laughing at the moron in chief?
February 15th, 2008 at 10:04 amHendler’s gibberish is getting lamer and lamer, at this pace he may need to be using a walker by NOvember
take care
tony and guidedog Lido
If I did nothing wrong, then I have nothing to fear from increased surveillance powers of the “unitary executive”. And if they did nothing wrong, they don’t need immunity from prosecution.
They’re pushing so hard for it because they know they’re screwed. If the bill expires and the old FISA was restored, are we more at risk? I don’t think so. But I wouldn’t put it past this Administration to create an “I told you so” incident to ratchet up fear and make the Dems look bad for 08′. It’s about all they have left in their sleazy playbook. They’re that heinous, that fascistic.
February 15th, 2008 at 11:41 amTo pretend that the opposition has been anything but ignored and spurned is the very height of dishonesty.
This White House, and everyone associated with it, deserve no better than to be spit on by every single citizen of the US.
February 15th, 2008 at 11:41 amOhh the irony!!; can’t see the forest for the trees there, can ya, Maude.
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Comment by alphainfinityomega — February 15, 2008 @ 3:49 am
You’re gonna put up a link to any comment where I ever advocated violence against anyone, or you’re going to shut the f_ck up.
February 15th, 2008 at 11:51 amThe “regulars” was plural; everything is not just about you.
As far as violence, your imagery is often sadistic.
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February 16th, 2008 at 3:33 amI forgot he knows nothing about freedom,democracy,truth,justice and the american way.He also doesn`t remember something about the First Amendment.Dubya why don`t you just get out of dodge and let some uncorrupt,uncontradictory and a truth telling democrat run this country back up to it`s position as a leader in the free world,which will not impose REICH WING Policies and agendas (noecon dogma) on them when they either don`t want it or don`t need it.
February 16th, 2008 at 10:17 amNice picture: GWB transfixed by the blinkenlights …
“Oooo. Pretty!”
February 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pmLefties don’t have “fantasies”
RePugniScums do.
Lefties have goals!!
We work hard and you RePugiScums have fantasies!!!!
February 16th, 2008 at 6:17 pm