Bush Dismisses Iraq Recession: The War Has ‘Nothing To Do With The Economy’
Bush Dismisses Iraq Recession: The War Has ‘Nothing To Do With The Economy’
This morning on NBC’s Today Show, President Bush denied that the there’s any link between the faltering U.S. economy and $10 billion a month being spent on the Iraq war. In fact, according to Bush, the war is actually helping the economy:
CURRY: You don’t agree with that? It has nothing do with the economy, the war — spending on the war?
BUSH: I don’t think so. I think actually the spending in the war might help with jobs…because we’re buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.
Watch it:
The Iraq war has created jobs — for the administration’s defense contractor allies. Bush’s most recent budget is a windfall for contractors, and between 2000 and 2005, procurement was the “fastest growing component of federal discretionary spending.” (Halliburton has been the biggest beneficiary of the administration’s generosity.)
Five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, however, national unemployment is going up. Between December 2006 and December 2007, the national unemployment rate increased by 13.6 percent in seasonally adjusted terms, from 4.4 to 5.0 percent. Additionally, 68 percent of the American public believes that redeployment from Iraq would help fix the country’s economic woes.
Transcript:
Some Americans believe that they feel they’re carrying the burden because of this economy.
G. BUSH: Yeah, well…
CURRY: They say we’re suffering because of this.
G. BUSH: … I don’t agree with that.
CURRY: You don’t agree with that? It has nothing do with the economy, the war — spending on the war?
G. BUSH: I don’t think so.
I think actually the spending in the war might help with jobs.
CURRY: Oh, yeah?
G. BUSH: Yeah, because we’re buying equipment, and people are working.
I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.
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GW Bush = Moron
February 18th, 2008 at 12:40 pmThe economic acumen of an amoeba.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:44 pmIf he can’t run a successful business
February 18th, 2008 at 12:45 pmor balance a budget,
just why would we think that Shrub is capable of making the connection between billions a month in war spending with our faltering economy?…
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I would be the first to say that you shouldn’t have to be a rocket scientist to be the President, but jeez…..
According to GDumbya, we don’t have a “war problem”; we have a “housing problem”.
I tend to agree with him. All of our economic problems can be traced to who has been housed in the White House for the past seven years.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:47 pmBush: “If our economy needs further stimulatin’, we can always go into Eye-ran. Heh heh.”
February 18th, 2008 at 12:49 pmAnd this man actually has an MBA? I would just bet that every single paper he wrote, whether as an undergraduate or getting his MBA was ghost written. What an absolutely simplistic and moronic statement to make!
February 18th, 2008 at 12:50 pmOK, he sucks at economics, but does make a great cheerleader!
February 18th, 2008 at 12:51 pmEnjoy your free wars, USA taxpayers!
February 18th, 2008 at 12:52 pmShorter Bush:
Let them eat subdivisions.
-GSD
February 18th, 2008 at 12:52 pmOMG! And if Bush, MBA (hahaha) looks at the economy like this, just imagine how Bushlite McCain, the 100-years- in-Iraq-I-don’t-know-much-about-economics candidate, would think and act.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:53 pmBush has done so well on the economy that he should know what he is saying, what is that he was saying?
Course, he did the war so well, he should know about that too, right?
Since McBush kind of flip flops about the economy perhaps Bush-boy could inform him.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:54 pmComment by RUCerious — February 18, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
If only we could get him cheering for his team (wait for it)
February 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pmof attorneys: “De-fense, de-fense”.
He’s more than just an a$$hole, he’s the whole a$$.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pmWhat, me worry? Everybody go shop!
W
February 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pmRemember, at least 28% of the population are DUMBER than this buffoon!
February 18th, 2008 at 12:56 pmIf spending a tril on a war for nothing does nothing bad to the economy, why can’t Bush afford to spend a few tens of millions on healthcare for kids in the bill he kept vetoing? Bush says whatever he thinks he can get away with. He has no beliefs other than whatever he happens to believe is right.
It’s time to move on. There is a reason Obama is winning this Primary. He is winning in states. He is winning in the popular vote. He is winning on delegates, even taking into account those “Super” establishment delegates. The reason is simple. He is the better candidate who can bring all of us together to work towards real and lasting change.
Obama is the most electable Democratic candidate by far. He is the way we take back the White House. The proof is in the polls. He averages 6 points better against McCain than Hillary does. Obama beats McCain in polls. Hillary only ties.
One of McCain’s own top strategists even said he would resign if Obama is the Democratic nominee because he doesn’t want to attack Obama. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 02/ 13/ top-mccain-adviser-ill-_n_86578.html
And, contrary to popular belief, Obama is tougher than Clinton. Of the two candidates, only he had the guts to oppose the Iraq war from the start. Hillary Clinton still hasn’t come to terms with the most important vote of her relatively short-lived political career as an elected official. She still won’t admit she made a mistake on Iraq. She said Bush duped her.
Just last Fall Clinton voted for Bush’s bill to declare Iran’s military to be “terrorists.” This was the equivalent of an unnecessary declaration of war. At the same time Bush was waiving around the image of World War III with Iran in support of his bill, Bush knew about a secret National Intelligence Estimate prepared by the CIA which found that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons development program in 2003 and probably hadn’t restarted it. Hillary Clinton was duped again. And again she wouldn’t admit she made a mistake. Instead she sent a letter to the White House “clarifying” her position.
Yes, there is a reason the McCain is hoping that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. McCain is hoping he can keep independents as well as his own campaign managers from jumping ship because they like Obama. And McCain is hoping he can debate Hillary Clinton on Iraq because her spinning on that issue just is not very convincing.
And Hillary Clinton says she is more prepared and detail oriented than Obama. Once again the proof is in the pudding. Her campaign ran out of money, was unprepared to deal with caucuses and has had to fire a whole bunch of people for poor performance and political low blows. In contrast, Obama’s campaign is well run, well financed (even though they don’t take money from lobbyists while Clinton does), and consistent in its message.
It’s time to vote for the Democratic nominee who is most electable and will make a great President. It’s time to vote for a President who can unify America. Without unity, without hope, there is no chance of real change. Without hope there never would have been civil rights reform. Without hope we never would have come out of the Great Depression. Once again, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Obama ‘08.
Yes we can!
PS I came across this post written by someone else and thought it was good so here it is:
Let’s take a closer look at who’s really qualified and or who’s really working for the good of all of us in the Senate. Obama or Clinton.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress http://www.thomas.loc.gov
Please pass this on
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Clinton
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Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term - 6yrs. - and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law - 20 - twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress http://www.thomas.loc.gov, but to save you trouble, I’ll post them here for you.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton’s bills are, more substantive.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the fact’s straight from the Senate Record.
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Obama
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During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
NY TImes Obama’s record in the Illinois Senate
http://www.nytimes.com/ imagepages/ 2007/ 07/ 29/ us/ politics/ 20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:
1. The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law,
2. The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law,
3. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
4. The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law,
5. The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.
In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pmJust keep telling yourself that, Georgie.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:59 pm@6. And this man actually has an MBA?
Sure! It’s just another “damn piece of paper”.
Kinda like the Constitution.
February 18th, 2008 at 12:59 pmAnother reason Chimpfck invaded Iraq, to stimulate the US economy.
Where, oh where would we be without visionary leaders like Boy George?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pmRemember, at least 28% of the population are DUMBER than this buffoon!
Comment by DieNowForPeace — February 18, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
I ever wondered if it actually exists an absolute zero for dumbness, as the -273.15ºC or 0 Kelvin degrees for temperature, but Bush keeps lowering and lowering the bottom of the IQ scale.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:01 pmha! see, what’d i tell yas…
too many houses! … what a brain!
and, ann, way to go after it!
February 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pmHe must have had cheerleader practice conflict with his Econ course at Yale. At least McCain’s an economics powerhouse! ;-(
February 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pm#16
Comment by Duck Soup — February 18, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
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That isn’t quite an apples to apples comparison there chief. You’re comparing Obama’s SPONSORED/COSPONSORED bills to Clinton’s PASSED bills.
C’mon. I haaaaaaaatttteee Hilary and am not entirely sure I’d vote for her in the general, but you do your team a disservice by posting garbage like this.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pmBut, if the cause of the recession is the fact that there are too many houses, wait for the Bush’s answer to the problem: to create a program called something like “Improved House Availability”, dedicated to destroy houses to enhance the economy.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:07 pmI’ve posted before, I think it was about 7 out of the last 8 economic downturns were preceeded by spikes in gas prices.
To the extent Bush’s war caused a spike in gas prices, it is the driving factor in this economic downturn.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:07 pmSo Bush’s tiny brain speaks again and equates the whole mess to “too many houses” Well thats about the best we can get from the pea brain president No surprises there. And war is good for the economy only in sectors that support military hardware and support. What about the rest and majority of the economy. So war is good in Bush’s pea brain again. Once again the best we can expect from brainless Bush. He see’s the world as he wants to see it, not as it actually appears. So interviews with him are pretty worthless and almost comical.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:11 pmHe’s right — his crackheaded defense budget bears no relationship to our economic reality whatsoever, which is why we’re borrowing our 12 billion a week from the Communist Party of China.
Maybe I should just tell my wife that even though we’re only making x per month, I’m going to go ahead and spend 3x per month (on private landscapers and a fancy new sports car), because I am at “war” with “extremists” (annoying neighbors) who want to “destroy” (leave their lawn un-mowed, and fail to take their garbage cans in promptly) our neighborhood. When she tries to stop me, I’ll just tell her that my warmaking has nothing to do with “our economy”, that the problem is really just those new kitchen towels she had to have. Then I’ll remind her that her attempt to intervene in my spending “sends a message” to those neighbors that we want them to put their garbage in our yard.
Good thing my wife’s not the kind of hapless sucker R voters obviously are.
Good thing most people don’t run their families the same way R’s run our governement and big businesses.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:12 pm‘The economic acumen of an amoeba.’
Comment by RUCerious — February 18, 2008 @ 12:44 pm
RU, What those poor amoeba’s ever do to you to deserve such denigration? ;)
February 18th, 2008 at 1:12 pmCURRY: You don’t agree with that? It has nothing do with the economy, the war — spending on the war?
BUSH: I don’t think so. I think actually the spending in the war might help with jobs…because we’re buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pmGee , I’m truly shocked that the individual who performed this terrific economic analysis has been an absolute failure in every business endeavor he’s ever participated in………………..
clowns to the left of me jokers to the right……
February 18th, 2008 at 1:16 pmWar has no economic return because the money is spent on items that might be blown out…like bombs, bullets,rockets,gasoline etc. etc.,and needed replacement after depleted.
If Bush spent the same money on research,ports, bridges…hospitals & medicine there will be a long term benefit to every American,and the American industry too.,and that will help in increasing revenues of government and states, which will benefit the society as a whole.
We have billions yet to spend also on returned injured soldiers who came back with permenant injuries at a younger age.
The cost of wars is financed by Treasury Papers, which taxpayers pay interest on this borrowed money.
So when Bush thinks that hundreds of billions of dollars of war spending has nothing to do with our economic situation , he is mistaken.
This money spent on wars could be used to help every American in many ways.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pmWith this level of insight, I can’t believe that every business this man has ever touched was an absolute failure.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:18 pmWhere is all that personal responsibility the republicans trumpet every chance they get? Get this goofball: Good or bad you get the credit or, in this case, the blame for the economy! Choke on that!
February 18th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThe never ending failed war has nothing to do with the economy! Gas prices have gone way up but that doesn’t have to do with the economy! Contractors make all the money out of killing civilians families and children, but no that has nothing to do with the economy! The hard earned dollars we work so hard for are worth less and less, but no it doesn’t have to do with the economy. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHOOT THIS IDIOT! WE NEED TO NUKE THIS IDIOT OUT THE WHITE HOUSE NOW!!! THAT INCLUDES HIS CROSSEYED PET GOAT LAURA!
February 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pmWith this level of insight, I can’t believe that every business this man has ever touched was an absolute failure.
- - Comment by deebaser
- - You can’t? Your premise is correct.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmWar has no economic return because the money is spent on items that might be blown out…like bombs, bullets,rockets,gasoline etc. etc.,and needed replacement after depleted.
Comment by tarazan — February 18, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
It also doesn’t help that the stated ‘items’ cause destruction of property and lives , that costs even more ……………On both a humane and economic level.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmIn fact, a good chunk of the taxes used to pay the war are given to Halliburton and the likes, who in turn use it to pay their workers (truckers, cooks, etc), who are usually contracted outside the USA (they are cheaper), and the golden parachute of their board of directors and biggest shareholders, who don’t necessarily are from the USA or reinvest the money in the USA. Oh, and let’s don’t forget, they use also the money to move to Dubai, to pay less taxes in USA.
A great deal, I say you!
February 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pmYepper, war is good for us!
George sez so.
Dick sez so.
Condi sez so.
Dana sez so.
Daddy sez so.
John sez so.
Henry sez so.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmDuck Soup = Plunger. ‘Nuff said.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmBush has a long history of “failed†businesses from which he made great profits while small investors paid the price. Why should the results of his presidency be any different when it comes to the national economy?
For the umpteenth time: MBA Bush and his “CEO†cabinet couldn’t run a popcorn stand.
As for his degrees from Harvard and Yale, they’re obviously not worth the paper they’re written on. Ivy League Motto: Caveat Emptor: We’ll sell a degree to anyone.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pm…$10 billion a month being spent on the Iraq war.
it wasn’t too very long ago that we first learned the
February 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmcost to U.S. was $2b a month… what the hell happened?
University of Michigan economics Ph.D. Dean Baker debunks dinkledorf on this very point here:
February 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Here:
http://www.cepr.net/content/view/1470/45/
February 18th, 2008 at 1:25 pm“I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.”
but…weren’t the tax cuts supposed to boost the economy and give us jobs so we could afford to join the “ownership society”?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pmOverhead, katy, overhead…
February 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pm…$10 billion a month being spent on the Iraq war.
it wasn’t too very long ago that we first learned the
cost to U.S. was $2b a month… what the hell happened?
Comment by katy — February 18, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
Well , you know …………..inflation/cost of living and all………..
February 18th, 2008 at 1:27 pmYes Bush just might be right this time. He is only given Iraq 1 Trillion dollars and that is nothing compaired to what the Contractors have been given. Even convicted Wilkes got 43 billion and Froggo got much more as a White House friend. Contractors are paid Billions of dollars to build 7 US Embassies in Iraq, after 5 years and slave labor kidnapped for the US job. Nothing to show for the money given and the Embassies aren’t worth a dime and need to start all over again. Now Saddam’s Palace is fine as our troops live there with a swimming pool and lake to fish. We have given over 150 Billion as we price for the innocent men/woman/child we killed. We’re spending Billions for secret operations to spy on other countries, pay offs for this small countries going along with the illegal invasion of Iraq, Billions for classes in Africa to teach adults and young Africans not to have sex per Religion rules, we paid the Media to print only what the President’s lies, propaganda money is put in the budget and of course miscellaneous expenses.
Bush has just signed a stimulus bill for rebate checks to Americans, as the US Treasury is borrowing the money from future income. Sounds alot like what Enron did doesn’t it, well it is. It worked with Enron and it will work again. Even McCain used George H. W. Bush’s old line ” I will not raise taxes”. Now where will the US get the money? When Americans see what has really happen with the stolen US taxpayers money we will know we were played for fools and yes Republicans are laughing their butts off as they resign and leave with the money and put it in off shore accounts. If McCain gets in he’ll take the little that’s left, if Obama gets in he doesn’t know what to do so the Senior Democrats like Kerry/Kennedy will get what they can before the bank is empty. I guess this explains why the United States ranked so low in education, now even common sense is lost.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:29 pmIn the words of Bill Clinton: If you believe this bull I got some land I want to sale you. This guy doesn’t know the truth from lies because he’s lied too much. If his lips are moving, he’s lying. Some day said on CSPAN this morning, “Dubya is a great President and will be remembered that way.” She has been smoking too much to that crack and needs drug treatment. Even the republicans realize this guy is a former coke head alcoholic that got elected by very very favorable press coverage and a bunch of lies. Remember the line: “I’m a uniter not a divider”. Well his first act as President was to have Rove and Cheney start dividing us along idealogical and party lines. They used the divide and concur strategy to prefection, then they used fear it’s self to get reelected. He still uses the fear card to get the weak democrats to cave in to this day.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pmIn 7 years there has been nothing truthful or correct that has come from this Miserable Failure’s administration.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pmi could swear that the ducksoup used to be a hillary cheerleader…
dropping hillary spam occasionally…
but, i’m even more sure it isn’t plunger…
February 18th, 2008 at 1:32 pmThe war has been good for the Busch/Cheney Halliburton and Big Oil economies.
Such obvious conflict (collusion) of interests should never be allowed in the White House again.
A∞Ω
February 18th, 2008 at 1:32 pmHis slogan is: “All we have to use is fear itself”, which he thought President Roosevelt said; But the quote goes: “All we have to fear is fear itself”
February 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmDoes Chimpy’s “MBA” actually stand for “More Boneheaded Assessments” ?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pmI think actually the spending in the war might help with jobs…because we’re buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.
Bush is correct.
The bloggers and the comments here are wrong.
The economic situation we’re in is too much real estate greed by individuals and mortgage companies. And home builders who have created too much supply.
Looks like there is a reason the top students don’t go to Big Blue for their economics degrees. But they usually have a good football team.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pmMuck - they’re called decimal places - check’em out, k?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:40 pmComment by muckdog — February 18, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
You folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq. The surge is working.
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2007 @ 2:23 am
Ah yes, more insightful commentry from muckdog.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:41 pm“The economic situation we’re in is too much real estate greed by individuals and mortgage companies. And home builders who have created too much supply.”
Coupled with sluggish economic growth, a falling dollar, and rising gas prices.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:41 pmComment by MCMetal — February 18, 2008 @ 1:37 pm
More Blundering Asininity?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pmComment by barfly — February 18, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
Don’t forget the the staggering deficits the little monster has been running up, barfly.
Staggering… good word to use, seeing how much of the time…
February 18th, 2008 at 1:44 pm“Bush is correct.”
About what? Even conservative business publications like Forbes, The Economist and the Bloomberg Financial news say that Bush’s fiscal and budgetary policies have set us up for a major recession or possibly a depression. The housing issue has very little to do with “too many houses” and very much to do with the lack of liquidity in the market (worst since the late ’20s”) and the value of the dollar (worst ever). The trade deficit is worst in history, the budget deficit and debt as highest in history, job performance is at almost historic lows and the market is barely 1000 points higher than it was 8 years ago. Muckdog, what the hell are you even talking about?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pmThe economic situation we’re in is too much real estate greed by individuals and mortgage companies. And home builders who have created too much supply.
Mcukdog
It’s a little more complicated than that, “my friend”. While greed does have something to do with the problem, we’ve been living in a national ponzi scheme for the last several years: people were finacing a lifestyle they couldn’t afford by sucking the equity out of their homes, which created the illusion of wealth which was coupled with bad lending practices that inflated the demand for homes, which drove prices up beyond what the homes were worth, which gave the first people room to take out more equity that didnt’ exist…and so on until the whole thing started collapsing. And here we are.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pmmuckdog beat me to it. This was a an extremely sloppy post by ThinkProgress. While you can certainly argue that, over time, spending on war deflects spending from more productive uses or the incredible amount of borrowing to fund this war theoretically should increase the cost of capital for all borrowers, deficit spending does tend to stimulate the economy. And this war has been funded through massive deficit spending.
Do I think Bush understands any of that? Probably not. Do I think any aspect of this war is good. Absolutely not.
If you are going to ridicule Bush about something, there is ample ammunition. But, at the very least, you need to present evidence that what he said is, indeed, factually incorrect. This blog presented exactly nothing.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmYou folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq. The surge is working.
Comment by muckdog
go away jerk. And stop praying for an attack on “the homeland” so you can blame the democrats.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmMuckdog, what the hell are you even talking about?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — February 18, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
He has no idea, Col. He’s just marching around in his jackboots, heiling himself. Er, at least he’s jacking something…
February 18th, 2008 at 1:48 pmI think actually the spending in the war might help with jobs…because we’re buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.
Bush is correct.
The bloggers and the comments here are wrong.
The economic situation we’re in is too much real estate greed by individuals and mortgage companies. And home builders who have created too much supply.
Looks like there is a reason the top students don’t go to Big Blue for their economics degrees. But they usually have a good football team.
Comment by muckdog — February 18, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
How quaint ; a Chimpy rim licking sycophant , lying for his dear leader ……..Can you or your retarded simian hero name how many new workers companies like Halliburton hired , after Chimpy illegally and stupidly invaded Iraq ?
I’m willing to bet it wasn’t a number over 1 ……..
February 18th, 2008 at 1:48 pm#28 RU, What those poor amoeba’s ever do to you to deserve such denigration? ;)
Comment by TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong — February 18, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
Mitosis! All that damn multiplyin!
February 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pmHere’s a bet, mucky.
I’ll bet the business community suddenly will decide that infrastructure repair is our most important issue when a democrat takes the Oval Office. They can then find ways to make a buck off our transitioning from Iraq, while positioning themselves to capitalize on the sudden pressing need to rebuild our bridges, dams, and highways.
I’d say about May of next year, before the next congress starts letting repair contracts for fiscal ‘10.
Wadda ‘ya think?
February 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pmYou folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq. The surge is working.
Comment by muckdog
The surge is working, the war isn’t. We can’t leave all those troops there forever as guard dogs keeping the peace. It’s a “band-aid” fix to a much bigger problem. It is not a solution at all. It’s Bush just stalling and leaving his mess for the next president. A failed war cancels out any temporary surge.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pmG. BUSH:
“I THINK actually the spending in the war MIGHT help with jobs.” (my caps)
There’s that firm decision-making at play again.
and to lzcrmc, who said the following:
“But, at the very least, you need to present evidence that what he (Bush) said is, indeed, factually incorrect.”
How about the one making the assertion (Bush) presenting some evidence that his assertion is factually correct?! That’d be nice.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pmAnd the moon has no effects on the tides. I mean really the moon is way up there in the sky, and everything. Hell, half the time it aint event there. And bush doesnt’ wet the bed either, he just sweats a lot.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pmAlthough the Iraq scam was always a sweet deal for American business interests.
They could provide substandard services and equipment, and we wouldn’t hear about it until years later. But with a dem in charge, the gravy train stops. No more spoiled food served to troops, substandard protection, or non-functioning equipment.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pmLOL!!! Who in their right minds believe ANYTHING that comes out of this guys mouth?!?!?!?!?!
You have to be a complete IDIOT to trust ANYTHING this guy says!
If he says the sky is blue and the grass is green make sure to look up and look down…
This guys an IDIOT!!
February 18th, 2008 at 1:57 pmThe more he talks the DEEPER hole he digs - 100% certified idiot.
February 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pmHas War Been Good for the widowed Women of Afghanistan?
Atrocities: 1.5 Million Afghani Widows, Illiterate, Earning $16/Month And Often Forced To Beg or Prostitute Themselves
“There over 1.5 million widows out of an estimated 26.6 million people in Afghanistan, according to Beyond 9/11, a US-based nonprofit group that provides direct financial support to Afghan widows and their children. Some 50,000-70,000 widows live in Kabul alone, it says.
…“The average age of an Afghan widow is just 35 years, and 94 percent of them are unable to read and write,†Deborah Zalesne, law professor at the City University of New York, told IRIN.
“About 90 percent of Afghan widows have children, and the average widow has more than four,†Zalesne added. To survive many Afghan widows weave carpets, do tailoring, beg or even engage in prostitution.
In urban areas where women have better access to employment and other services than in conservative rural areas, an average working widow earns about $16 a month, experts estimate.â€
http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/ 2008/ 02/ 14/ atrocities-15-million-afghani-widows-illiterate-earning-16month-and-often-forced-to-beg-or-prostitute-themselves/
February 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pmImpeachcheneythenbush,
February 18th, 2008 at 2:01 pmCall the Harvard Business School at 617-495-6128, ask if you can read or, get a copy of Bush’s MBA 1975 Thesis?
“Mitosis! All that damn multiplyin!”
Comment by RUCerious — February 18, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
Fair enough. :) Although, I was sure you were gonna go with Phagocytosis…
February 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pmwhat to do with all those profits??? hmmm…
UPDATE 2-Four injuries in Texas refinery blast - mayor
February 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pmForbes, NY - 1 hour ago
HOUSTON, (Reuters) - Four people were injured Monday in an explosion and fire at the 67000-barrel-per-day (bpd) Alon USA Energy Inc. refinery in Big Spring, …
Explosion rocks oil Texas refinery Toronto Star
Explosion at Texas Oil Refinery Hurts 1 The Associated Press
Comment by lzcrmc
I’m with mary on this…..TP offered this for discussion and that is exactly what has been going on here. I don’t think you read any of the posts. I believe you just injected your opinion….you may be right but you failed to make a case for yourself.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pmand bush is the proud recipient of a harvard mba.
heh.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmDoes Troll Central think their trolls are more effective if they rotate them? Y’know… Gigi one week, Southern Mammal the next… looks like it’s muckdog’s turn to run the offense this week.
Maybe the trolls just get so beat up here that they need two weeks of R n’ R just so they can regain their confidence.
Why they have confidence in the first place, I have no idea.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmOnce again the chimp speaks folly.His rose colored glasses are the deepest red you can get.I mean red as in the red for our economy.The only black I see in the economy is the dark under belly of NAFTA , the mortgage industry and immunity to the telecoms and so and so forth.
He also cut taxes in a time of war for the rich,while ours go up and wages have stagnated , Rx`s , health care have all inflated .If it was only Nov.I wonder if it is still the the media`s fault like it was last week that economy is BAD.
For almost 30 years we`ve had to put up with reagan-nomics,it`s time to scrap this type of economy go back to the way it was before Reagan opened up the door for all of his cronys to run and tell the government what to do.We need tax reform that the rich have to pay the same % as the bluecollar unionized person and the rest of working class. the middle class is gone for good!!!!!
Conservatives perpetuate poverty and poor health care ,poor public education,poor everything ,they are only concerned with $$$$$$. we need to bring words like socialism and liberalism and collectivism back into this election and take back AMERICA from the big corporate $$$ grubbing sons of @$%#@! and these damn neocons.
Thomas Paine oncesaid”We have it in our power to begin the world over again”. We progressives will show these consevatives what we can do for this country and undo what THE BUSHCO crime family has done to this country and every country they have infected with their desease.
In solidarity
February 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pmIn response to #16 - I guess you consider naming libraries and post offices - and greeting basketball teams meaningful legislation, then I guess Hillary is your girl.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:10 pm#81 please see post # 23
February 18th, 2008 at 2:14 pmI imagine that some Americans may actually be benefitting from the spending on the war (no-one that I know but SOMEONE must be making all of those military supplies) but there’s a caveat - the finished goods end up being used in a foreign country.
If that same money was being spent on alternative energy programs, Americans would still be working and we’d have something to show for it other than death and destruction (and the odd crappily-built school in Iraq) AND it could even help transition us away from oil (and all the fun that brings) AND it might even help address today’s environmental challenges!
All in all I’m thinking that money being spent in Iraq could be spent much more wisely.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:14 pmMuckdog,
This war transformed over 250,000 wounded Americans from economy producing people to be totally dependent on the government for their survivability.
The Taxpayers will continue to shoulder their cost for decades to come,due to the fact that they were sent young to war and injured at a young age.
Can you explain to us Muckdog how war can be good to our economy in this case,which is one of many problems the war had created already?!
February 18th, 2008 at 2:15 pmThere is no explanation other than family influence for Bush having been admitted to Harvard, much less receive a college degree in anything - much less an MBA - from the college.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:17 pmPhagocytosis…
Comment by TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong — February 18, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
Goddamit! Ya got me to go to the googles to get some of that lernin agin.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pmI imagine that some Americans may actually be benefitting from the spending on the war
Comment by mary — February 18, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
mary, our good friend Daryll claims to be profiting from the war. He’s some sort of contractor working for the DoD, so it’s no wonder he supports violence as a means to solve problems. Plus he’s also a “Christian”.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pmBush economics;
February 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmA society that that produces food, clothing and shelter for one another is doomed.
Building WMD’s to kill others is the road to success.
Comment by Duck Soup — February 18, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
So Duck, I have a question for you. What are you going to do if Hillary is the candidate? Are you going to slit your wrists? I think everyone here knows how much you hate Hillary, so why don’t you give it a rest.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmMuckdog is also a fervent global warming denier.
Not a lot of credibility there…
February 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — February 18, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
Yikes. That would explain some of the pro-war talk I suppose. Did that come out during his meltdown on Friday? I didn’t have time to read every post.
You know, you just made me realize that some people may already be depending on the war spending by now. It’s been going on so long.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:39 pm“It’s affected our families. Paying more for gasoline hurts some of the American families,” Bush told reporters just before his meeting with the king. After the meeting Saudi Arabia’s oil minister made clear that Riyadh would increase production only “when the market justifies it” and not before.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pmIf war did what Bush said he would not have to ask for funding for it now would he? The MIC would be a self-sufficient entity, and clearly its not.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:50 pmAll in all I’m thinking that money being spent in Iraq could be spent much more wisely.
Comment by mary
The Saudis are building a solar city for some 13 billion, what one month in Iraq/Afghanistan cost. What are we building? Debt, thats what.
February 18th, 2008 at 2:54 pmBush ran every business with which he was connected straight into the ground.
Why is anyone surprised that he’s done the same with the USA?
Yet another reason why John McCain is simply too out of it to be capable of serving as president.
February 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pmI can’t believe Muckdog actually said we masturbate to the deaths of our soldiers, but then again, I can, because he’s nothing more than a partisan hack. Way to use our soldiers as political pawns…In fact, at least we acknowledge their sacrifice, unlike you guys on the right who would rather ignore their deaths so that negative publicity doesn’t affect your Dear LEADER
February 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pmAnd they impeached…… NIXON????
For what??????????????
What happened to America?
February 18th, 2008 at 3:13 pmCompared to Bush, Nixon was a SAINT and should receive an apology!!!
Interesting comments. Now if anyone bothered to look at the indicted cases of fraud done by Bush/Cheney friends and appointees you under stand just how the National Debt is 9 Trillion dollars. yes Bush is handing out money freely to Iraq but behind the scenes Trillions have gone to crooks. But after reading the comments above it does make since that the Americans people are content to read the headlines and not ask about what else is going on.. As to Bush/Cheney well their still in office and committing the same crimes right in the American public’s face. If you want to know where most of your money is try checking out Halliburtons profits you’ll see the money. No worries Bush/Cheney and soon McCain will borrow more money from the Saudis and China and sell more US property. With Senator Obama up lifting speeches he forgot to add your new landlord with be the Saudi King. Yes China used the US plan our Founding Fathers used but Americans get lazy and don’t even know the Law Makers or the Constitution this is what happens as the saying goes ” A mine is a terrible thing to waste”.
February 18th, 2008 at 3:16 pmCompared to Bush, Nixon was a SAINT and should receive an apology!!!
Comment by drtichy
nixon was no saint……remember bush I was running the fbi when nixon was so busy…..
February 18th, 2008 at 3:17 pmComment by drtichy
February 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pmI speculate that it was just a different time….the American people still had some say in politics then……since then raygun changed that by allowing the lobby system to expand, creating a new situation……votes for sale to the highest bidder…..corporations now decide what we should be outraged about.
And they impeached…… NIXON????
For what??????????????
Comment by drtichy — February 18, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
Nixon was never impeached, drtichy. He resigned due to the possibility of impeachment, and Ford pardoned him, even though he was never formally charged w/ anything. Thanks a lot, Gerald.
February 18th, 2008 at 3:38 pmDoes Troll Central think their trolls are more effective if they rotate them? Y’know… Gigi one week, Southern Mammal the next… looks like it’s muckdog’s turn to run the offense this week.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 18, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
I’m would venture to guess that there is only 1 or 2 trolls with multiple monikers and last week/this weekend many of the monikers were temp banned. “They” will back tonight or tomorrow after the temp ban expires.
February 18th, 2008 at 3:53 pmI speculate that it was just a different time….the American people still had some say in politics then……
Comment by Fred — February 18, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
And the Internet has given us the best tool we have to fight back since that happened, Fred, which is why net neutrality is one of the most important issues in the country today.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pmVery, very, very simple example that even an MBA “gentleman’s C” should understand:
If you live in a place where “Tourism” is a big part of the economy, people tend to travel less when gasoline shoots up 200 %. They tend to fly less when airfares go up (or for the economicly challenged airline industry hit with the double whammy of increased costs and passenger screening which prolongs travel and makes airports less hospitable).
February 18th, 2008 at 4:21 pm103 TRoS, I agree 100%. We would be so lost right now without the internet. I think they have underestimated how we would use it. Without it we would be isolated and alone…..and much more afraid.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:23 pmHe will eventually BLAME the recession on the victims of Katrina. Here is how.
“I think this economy is down because we built too many houses and the economy’s adjusting.”
Means: There are lots of empty houses all over the country.
So: Eventually he is going to make the association between those needing housing (Katrina victims) and the housing available elsewhere and say that they should move to where the houses are. He will say THEY are the reason the economy is so bad. THEY are making the government build NEEDLESS new housing, instead of moving into unoccupied houses elsewhere.
HE WILL BLAME KATRINA VICTIMS FOR THE RECESSION.
This scum sucking Traitor knows no bounds.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:26 pmAnd we all know we can take what he says to the bank! He’s earned our trust by spying on us and trashing the 4th amendment, he’s a Christian torturer (lots of cognitive dissonance here), a warmonger who starts wars on fabrications and deceit, who encourages an out of control vp who needs a slap down, and to top it off…midnight kidnapping and free flights to “black” cia sites somewhere. Yes sir, you can take what he says to the bank. He upholds the laws and the Constitution just like the oath he took…uh huh.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pmAh… yeaaaahhh, Fred…
The Internet is prolly the most powerful political tool since the printing press.
‘Course, the telephone, the radio and television weren’t too bad either… it’s just a little too easy to control the content that goes out on them, whereas, we all get a say on the Internet.
Net neutrality, again, is one of the most important issues in this country today.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:30 pmRe. comments # 99:
I know Nixon wasn’t a “saint”, but compared to Bush he was not doing that bad, right? People threw rocks on Nixon, but don’t have the guts to do something about this guy who is wasting American blood, plus $10 billion/month, plus dstrying our economy, and giving us a bad name out there.
And… nothing happens!!!!
Re. comment # 101:
Nixon resigned, yes, because he was smart and knew what was about to happen. Then he was treated as “Scooter” Nixon… pardoned…
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And talking on PARDONS , when is anyone going to pardon Ramos & Compean for defending the Country against the drug dealers???
May it be that DC has more interest in keeping the drugs pouring into this Country instead of stopping it, and BUSH will keep those guys un-pardoned in prison as a reminder to those who would dare to try stopping the dealers???
February 18th, 2008 at 4:37 pmYeah I know you spin shit in politics, but to say something so fundamentally ignorant and stupid is beyond belief. He is not just the dumbest president of all time he is one of the dumbest human beings of all time. You make em dumb, we make em Republican dumb.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pmThe Saudis are building a solar city for some 13 billion, what one month in Iraq/Afghanistan cost. What are we building? Debt, thats what.
Comment by Xisithrus — February 18, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
X,
February 18th, 2008 at 4:40 pmWhere do you think the Saudis are getting their “money” from…Our debt.
MOney as Debt video.
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
Bush is once again proving himself to be clueless. But it won’t really affect anything. The people who are smart enough to see that he’s clueless are already in the 70% who disapprove of the job he’s doing. Bush’s supporters would continue to support him even if he went on the Today Show and claimed he was an alien from a supreme race in another galaxy.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pmI know Nixon wasn’t a “saintâ€, but compared to Bush he was not doing that bad, right? People threw rocks on Nixon, but don’t have the guts to do something about this guy who is wasting American blood, plus $10 billion/month, plus dstrying our economy, and giving us a bad name out there.
Comment by drtichy — February 18, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
I agree that Nixon wasn’t a saint, and he deserved to be impeached for his obstruction of justice and abuse of power — just as Dubya and Cheney deserve to be.
And the Democratic Congress wasn’t afraid to do what had to be done, either. So what’s different today? Beats me. The general timidity of the Dems have me thinking blackmail.
February 18th, 2008 at 4:54 pmhttp://www.counterpunch.org/whitney02152008.html
February 18th, 2008 at 4:54 pmRepublic of Stupidity,
February 18th, 2008 at 4:55 pmYou sure live up to your name, Nixon was impeached!
//www.wategate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml
Net neutrality, again, is one of the most important issues in this country today.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 18, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
I realize this is OT, but we didn’t have a ThinkFast thread today, and you brought it up first.
I agree that net neutrality is important, but it only gets on the front burner when somebody (like telecoms?) tries to do away with it. We got the “mumbo jumbo” ad awhile back, and then the subject was dropped. The telecoms are probably too busy fighting for immunity from warrantless wiretapping lawsuits at the moment…
February 18th, 2008 at 4:58 pmRepublic of Stupidity,
You sure live up to your name, Nixon was impeached!
//www.wategate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml
Comment by Klem Kiddilehopper — February 18, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
Actually, he wasn’t. The House Judiciary Committee had voted on and passed articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon, but Nixon resigned before they went to the House floor for a vote. Because they would have easily passed through the House, Nixon WOULD most certainly have been impeached if he hadn’t resigned when he did.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:00 pmMaybe bush is blackmailing the Congress by threatening them with making public the absolute truth of the game IS really rigged against the citizens.
His base alreayd know this and count on it. ANd the rest of us would be dumbfounded that it became public knowledge and now all of our love for the country would be gone.
He could deflate the whole Thing, by just coming clean with the intent of the DLC, the truth behind loddying, etc, etc, etc.
I could see his/rove/cheney diabolicalness is doing such as this.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:02 pmsupposed to be lobbying not “loddying” DUH!
February 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pmThe general timidity of the Dems have me thinking blackmail.
Comment by missmolly — February 18, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
Naw, they have fallen prey to the binary reptilian brain waves that emanate from Dubya oddly long reptilian fingers, kinda like Ury Geller except he bends simple minds instead of spoons!
/fiction on
February 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pmThing, by just coming clean with the intent of the DLC, the truth behind loddying, etc, etc, etc - 99LB
http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio02182008.html
February 18th, 2008 at 5:08 pmComment by Klem Kiddilehopper — February 18, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
They began impeachment proceedings, but Nixon resigned before the final vote. My statement was correct. Nixon was never convicted of anything.
Learn to read, Klem.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon
As a result of the Watergate scandal, Nixon resigned the presidency in the face of likely impeachment by the United States House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate. His successor, Gerald Ford, issued a controversial pardon for any federal crimes Nixon may have committed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon#Watergate
In light of his loss of political support and the near certainty of both his impeachment by the House of Representatives and his probable conviction by the Senate, he resigned on August 9, 1974, after addressing the nation on television the previous evening. listen (help·info) He never admitted to criminal wrongdoing, although he later conceded errors of judgment.
On September 8, 1974, a blanket pardon from President Ford, who served as Nixon’s second Vice President, ended any possibility of indictment.
http://www.google.com/ search?client=safari&rls=en&q=nixon+%2B+impeachment&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
On Friday, August 9, Nixon resigned the presidency and avoided the likely prospect of losing the impeachment vote in the full House and a subsequent trial in the Senate. He thus became the only U.S. President ever to resign. Vice President Gerald R. Ford succeeded him and a month later granted Nixon a full pardon for any crimes he might have committed while President.
You do Red Skelton a great disservice…
Got Stupidity?
February 18th, 2008 at 5:10 pmWhat is a Kiddilehopper?
February 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm[almost afraid too ask]
Prolly best to ask Mark Foley or Larry Craig that question, Xisithrus.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pmThats what I was skeered of RUC =)
February 18th, 2008 at 5:15 pmBush is, as usual, an uninformed LIAR.
Armaments are CAPITAL INTENSIVE. A la Woody Guthrie:
“One shot, even if it’s a practice shot, and WHIZ goes YOUR dough!”
A well-built home costing 200,000 to construct, will feed several families involved in the construction, and the homeowner will still have
AT LEAST what they invested, if not more.
THAT is an economy that creates JOBS.
Armaments benefit the MANUFACTURER, and NO ONE ELSE…
February 18th, 2008 at 5:15 pmComment by missmolly — February 18, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
That’s why I keep bringing it up, missmolly.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pmFlorida, for example, is in crisis. They are making massive cuts in education budgets that will result, for example, in reduced numbers of students being able to attend state universities.
Florida is in crisis over a one BILLION dollar deficit. How much is a BILLION dollars? One billion dollars is 3 days in Iraq.
Should the Feds bail Florida out? Well, that would be an interesting question to bebate. Could the Feds bail Florida out? But for Iraq it would be rather easy.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:20 pmComment by ucsbclassics53 — February 18, 2008 @ 3:06 pm
Muckdog actually made that comment last summer/fall. At the time I was so disgusted and offended that I copied it off to a word doc and every time I’m here when he starts posting, I just copy and paste.
Kinda like rubbing a dog’s nose in its mistake… how else will he learn?
February 18th, 2008 at 5:21 pmComment by missmolly — February 18, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Thank you, missmolly.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:25 pmThat’s why I keep bringing it up, missmolly.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 18, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
As well you should. The issue may be off the radar now, but we have to be ready to act if the corporate greedheads catch us sleeping and get the laws changed before we realize what’s happening.
After all, this is an issue where moveon.org and wingnut religious groups are on the same side. Whodathunkit?
February 18th, 2008 at 5:33 pmThe ignorance and audacity of this man knows no bounds. Obviously, he flunked Business Math in high school. Maybe this is why every business he’s owned he’s driven into the ground. He just doesn’t have a clue, how sad. To him, one plus one probably make three. What a imbecile.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:34 pm128. enough -
Of course, Florida houses Jeb Bush. Should be a good excuse to send them some money ?
February 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pmThe Chimp is attempting to coast by with lies, lies, and more lies. The people at this point are scratching their heads, checking their bank accounts, and saying “Wha?”. People are having to choose between medications and food; school budgets are being slashed; the housing industry in many states is at a total standstill and local governments are tanking. And this ignoramus is still spinning how great our economy is. He’s an even bigger fool than anyone ever imagined.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:37 pmComment by missmolly — February 18, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
Well then, I guess we’ll just have to keep bringing it up from time to time, huh?
February 18th, 2008 at 5:37 pmbush knows nothing about economics. He’s proven that many times over.
What an idiot!
February 18th, 2008 at 5:38 pmMapleStreet: Jeb Bush of the Bush crime family be damned. If that man ever thinks that he will hold public office again, he’s got another thought coming. When the total truth is permitted to be aired about how the election of 2000 was stolen by Jeb and Katherine Harris, they’ll both be behind bars.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:39 pmIt’s no wonder the rest of the world is making a total assclown of the Chimp as he travels around. Heard that today in Africa, they were chanting “Obama” - in total rejection of this criminal.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:40 pmHeard that today in Africa, they were chanting “Obama†- in total rejection of this criminal.
Comment by whatevah — February 18, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
Really? That is sooo cool. bushie hasn’t been liked world wide for some time but for the world to start rallying behind a “potential” president is a good sign for Obama.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:44 pmNo matter what you may think of Obama, it’s hard to argue against the assertion that he would go a long way in making the world think that this country has regained some of its sanity.
February 18th, 2008 at 5:58 pmBush Struggles For Relevancy As Obama Follows Him To Africa
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2008/ 02/ 18/ bush-struggles-for-relevancy-as-obama-follows-him-to-africa/
February 18th, 2008 at 6:01 pmYa see, 7 billion dollars a year on children’s health care would crash the economy, but 10 billion a month in Iraq creates jobs, heh, heh. The problem is healthy kids. I know there are nay sayers out there who will try to tell you that healthy kids are good for the country, but see, these are liberals, democrats, who are working for the terrorists by trying to RAISE YOUR TAXES! The administration doesn’t even count the money we spend in Iraq in the budget, so there is no need to raise taxes and we need to make the tax breaks on the wealthy permanent. That way we have a robust economy and can afford to be shooting Iraqi’s like fish in a barrel. Ya see, killing “el kyda” (in Iraq) is good for the economy (not so good in Afghanistan), healthy kids are bad for the economy and only helps the “terrerists”, heh heh. This’ not tough stuff really, its all “commonsensical”.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:20 pmComment by katy — February 18, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Outside the 28% in this country who would apparently follow this idjit right on thru the Gates of Hell, I think it’s safe to say the rest of the world just wants him GONE, period.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:24 pmBush is an arrogant obnoxious liar. When will the mainstream media FINALLY challenge calculated lies from Bush, like his statement today that his Iraq War has nothing to do with the devastation of the US economy?
He continues to get a pass, while the media defer to this moron like he is some kind of royalty outside the law. Speak up. This is a democracy. We demand the truth. Ask hard follow-up questions.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:45 pmComment by Ditch Mitch KY — February 18, 2008 @ 6:45 pm
Bush is an arrogant obnoxious liar. When will the mainstream media FINALLY challenge calculated lies from Bush…
They won’t. The media is corporate owned and BushCo is their puppet. Why would they challenge their own man who talks and acts in their interest?
He continues to get a pass…
By this you infer that the media does not understand. The media is not an independent and free reporting media any more. Reporters and the pundits they employ say and do what they are told. Their “issuing Bush a pass” is done on purpose with malice a fore thought!
February 18th, 2008 at 7:20 pm“…This is a democracy….”
Comment by Ditch Mitch KY — February 18, 2008 @ 6:45 pm
As it is now, it’s actually a DEMONcracy.
The AXIS OF EVIL is as follows:
Demon# 1: Shrinking DICK (creating “bright” and “oily” ideas)
February 18th, 2008 at 7:32 pmDemon# 2: KGBUSH (executing the ideas KGB style - spying on us)
Demon# 3: RICE - no clue of what is happening. Dreamin to be VP.
Demon# 4: More War-GATES
Demon# 5: MUCK-ASS-EY - a frail man; doesn’t know what torture is.
And the rest of the gang in colateral positions.