I feel sorry for the people living in Florida. If I was a parent with a child in a Florida school, I would object strongly about their being taught evolution as a science.

I once read an article about some people who think that earth is a scientific experiment by advanced beings on another planet. They seeded this planet acer aspire 5100 battery,acer aspire 5610 battery with man and are watching how we evolve. If that turned out to be true, can’t you see all those evangelical heads blowing up.

Perhaps you would like to point out where Eric can find how matter originated. He’ll be looking for a long time if you think he’ll ever find anything except more theories. You have no proof of the origin of matter or life just as believers have no proof of the origin of God or that he created everything. God created everything or things just began appearing out of nothing. There is no proof of either.

Eric just try to examine the reasoning behind your statement. Just because you do not know where matter came from, in no way implies that there must be a god only ignorance. Perhaps this god thing is just wishful thinking on your part. I understand it is difficult to let go of your security blanket after all these years of indoctrination in this form of what you believe to be “thinking”. Be brave and try reading a little about science and try thinking in a rational way as opposed to a superstitious way.
I notice you want to be spoon fed all of this information by us, perhaps a side effect of not having to use your brain all of these years because your religion already has all of the answers. Right now you are siting in front of one of the most powerful research tools available – the computer. Did it ever occur to you that you can find out anything you want to know just by going to Google and looking up these topics and doing a little reading and thinking on your own?
Or you can go to the library and get an introductory science book.
You say “it is because that there is something intuitive in us thats lets us know there is a higher power”. I suggest you change this to “Is it because etc.” and then go look for rational, verifiable evidence that can answer your question.
The first thing I suggest you look up is the scientific method because this is really the heart of science and how it works. If I remember correctly something your Saviour said about teaching a man to fish. It is time for you to learn how to use you own brain for thinking instead of just storing a bunch of stories. In science, believing yourself to be correct is not good enough. Try doing some research.

ROTFL!! There’s A LOT more PROOF of EVOLUTION than their is of CHRISTIANITY – TARD!!!

In fact EVERY KEY aspect of modern evolution HAS been proven, based on the THEORY – MORON! Whereas Genesis has been DISPROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Comment by republicans hate facts — February 21, 2008 @ 11:46 pm

Still haven’t learned to pay attention eh bud? It was one of yours who said, correctly, that the theory of evolution hasn’t been proven. Get it straight. ;)

Eric, if you have been paying any attention at all it should be obvious that the first single cell life form ( not an organism by the way – that would be a more complex life form) came from an even simpler life form like perhaps a virus or something else yet to be discovered.

As for your question “why so many people on this board are so hostile, even if they do believe themselves to be right?” In my opinion this hostility stems from the High and Mighty moral certitude of the Christian majority in this country and their willingness to shove their tripe down everyone else’s throats. So the hostility is just a little blowback from Christianity’s overaggressive militant evangelicalism and lack of respect for other beliefs of lack thereof.

In contrast, the theory of evolution is a scientific hypothesis supported by vast amounts of evidence. The theory of evolution says that all life evolved from previous life. No fluke. Life comes from life not a cosmic boogie man. It is really quite beautiful.

Science is not about justice. Science is about finding the truth based on the best evidence available. If new evidence emerges scientific truth is adjusted to accommodate the new evidence. Unlike the bible which supposedly never changes (except when the emperor or king decides to change it), science is a growing and changing enterprise. Alive, like us, not static and dead like that dusty old book of stories.

The bible is a story about an insecure vengeful god who seemingly enjoys tormenting his flawed creations just because they are flawed or because they don’t stroke his fragile ego the way he likes.

There was a time when humanity needed this kind of childish story but as we have evolved (some of us) over time we have learned to put aside these crutches and find our true place in the universe with the help of the scientific method – the most powerful tool of discovery yet known to man.

Can you see the difference? Don’t be afraid. The cosmic boogie man is not going to smite you.

Why does the theory of evolution need to give us justice or tell us that death is better than life? Neither does the theory of gravity, that does not make it any less true. It also does not make the theory any less important. Your particular mythology has no more importance to people outside your faith than great pieces of literature have to me to explain the importance of life or the concept of justice.

I should have perhaps been a little clearer. I don’t actually want ID or creationism taught, I’d rather keep schools religion free. My assumption (perhaps incorrect) was that Florida schools were mentioning these crackpot theories already. If that is, unfortunately, what is going on, teachers should point out the difference between these mythologies and actual theories.

I’m getting pretty tired of being forced to deal with other people’s religious convictions, particularly when it comes to them proselytizing to, and dumbing down, our children.

Comment by Bubs — February 20, 2008 @ 4:31 pm

The Genesis account of creation is a record. However, accepting the veracity of Genesis is indeed a religious belief.

Furthermore, making estimates from the CIA Factbook using World Religions: Christians 33.32%, would mean that about 2.0 B people know about the creation account in Genesis.

Jesus Christ ( a title not a name) endorses this account in Matthew 19. Many Christians will know this.

For many Christians the book of Genesis is filled with meaning and inspiration, because it certainly establishes a reason for the relationship between God and people and a reason for life. God, the Creator, is also noted to have considerable power.

In contrast, the theory of evolution is filled with meaninglessness. The theory isn’t able to say that life is better that death much less complexity is better that simplicity. The theory says all existence is a cosmic fluke.

Just try and get justice out of the theory of evolution. In contrast, the Bible is filled with the idea and desire for justice.

Comment by Bubs — February 20, 2008 @ 4:31 pm

First Marauder and now you? You people must stop deviating from the prog line. You cannot say that evolution hasn’t been proven and you cannot mention intelligent design in a classroom. You can’t have kids discussing God willy nilly. Children must be protected from hearing about God at all costs. Please, get with the program! ;)

If it is so important to point out to Floridian children that evolution is a theory (which technically is true), I think Florida should teach what constitutes a theory. Then proceed to explain “intelligent design” or “creationism” and point out that those are religious beliefs with no basis in fact or science. Don’t forget to point out other crazy theories such as gravity or The Atomic Theory. All in all, lessons on evolution can be used to teach school children several good lessons.

Comment by Marauder — February 20, 2008 @ 10:51 am

Are you some kind of trouble maker? ;)

Comment by christopher wiwi — February 20, 2008 @ 12:16 pm

Floridians seem to be under the impression that Charlie Crist is in charge. ;)

Comment by bitblt — February 20, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

It’s a plausible explanation for how we came to be.
Intelligent design is not plausible. It explains NOTHING!

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As i recall are founding fathers wanted the seperation of church and state.I forgot that most REICH WINGERS scraped the Constitution in favor of heir own laws and regulations that they makeup as they go.