Ever since the Kansas Department of Health and Environment denied air quality permits for two 700-megawatt coal-burning power generators near Holcomb, KS, in October, the coal industry has fought back with everything it can muster.
In November, it published newspaper ads comparing Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Vladimir Putin, and Hugo Chavez.
The coal industry has sponsored nearly all of CNN’s presidential debates, and has launched a website and TV ads using children to spout its propaganda.
Now Big Coal is trying bribery. Sunflower Electric, a leading Kansas power company, has offered millions to Kansas State University for energy research — that is, if the legislature approves its bid for new coal plants first. Speaker Melvin Neufeld (R) emphasized the large cash gift yesterday as he urged his colleagues to approve the plants:
Neufeld, R-Ingalls, noted the plant’s developers, Sunflower Electric Power Corp., have entered into a memorandum of understanding to pay $2.5 million to Kansas State University over 10 years for energy research if the plants get built.
If Sunflower Electric doesn’t get state permits to build by June 1, there’s no deal with KSU, according to the memorandum of understanding, which was distributed to all House members for their perusal.
State Rep. Paul Davis (D) said such a bribery scheme was “in poor taste.”
Apparently, the coal industry is willing to pull out all the stops to ensure a victory in a year that has, so far, brought nothing but bad news for the industry. Big Coal has been forced to pay massively expensive settlements for polluting rivers, has suffered the loss of government funding for a new carbon-capturing plant, and has faced a skeptical Wall Street, as big banks indicate that coal is no longer a healthy or wise investment.
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250,000 a year? You can’t get a decent relief pitcher for that let alone a coal plant!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:08 pmWell, I guess if bribery doesn’t work, Big Coal can always resort to telling Kansans that if they don’t approve these new plants, they’re going to die at the hands of terrorists.
/snark
February 20th, 2008 at 3:09 pmHmmm, wonder who’s sponsoring tonight’s CNN debate?
Blackmail & bribery don’t erase black skies & toxic waterways.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:11 pmSunflower Electric,
Go phuck yourself!
KSU
February 20th, 2008 at 3:16 pmAnd the poor keep paying higher and higher home enrgy bills
Comment by Southern Man
he’s a liberal…..he’s really concerned for the poor…..oh, wait a minute.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:25 pmAnd the poor keep paying higher and higher home enrgy bills(which many cannot afford) while the state of Kansas does nothing due to enviromental extremist who could care less about the poor in this country. Coal is what we are stuck with for now. If so many of you are for the working class poor as you say you are, these new plants make sense. They will increase the supply of energy and bring down the cost of it. Only nuclear energy is more affordable and cleaner, but you don’t like that idea either.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
ROTFL!!! Like REPUBLICANS actually care FOR THE POOR!!! If that’s all you’re worried about, just SUBSIDIZE their fuel costs - TARD!!!
Your ANSWER to BRIBERY is to BLAME THOSE THAT HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE? ROTFL, you’re a REAL PIECE OF SH*T!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pmI have to agree with 7, SM, I haven’t seen any Republican come out with a plan that would help the poor in this country pay for energy bills…
February 20th, 2008 at 3:28 pmOnly nuclear energy is more affordable and cleaner, but you don’t like that idea either.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
Actually Wind is cheaper than Nuclear or Coal when the total cost the environment, healthcare and damage caused by global warming and waste management are included… The latest version of Solar that are now rolling off the production lines are even Cheaper than Wind. But don’t let REALITY change your OPINION, TARD!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pmComment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
Actually, if we began to offer the same subsidies and tax breaks to solar and wind production that we offer to coal and oil we could begin to de-centralize the power grid. This would not only lead to lower energy prices but also national energy independence and higher security through the distribution of power generation…
February 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pmNo, i’m for affordable energy. The poor are affected by this, are they not?
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
Then tax Exxon’s price gouging profits, and subsidize them. There, problem solved.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pmSouthern Tard isn’t aware that we subsidize Oil/Coal to the tune of 250 BILLION a Year, NOT COUNTING IRAQ! You can deploy a lot of wind, biomass ethanol and solar for that amount of money!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:30 pmNo, i’m for affordable energy. The poor are affected by this, are they not?
Comment by Southern Man
You mean like the price of gasoline? That kind of affordable? Your guys going to make that happen?
February 20th, 2008 at 3:32 pm… I forgot to mention-
February 20th, 2008 at 3:35 pmBONUS REPUB TALKING POINTS!!!!
Personal power generation leads to the OWNERSHIP society!!!
AWESOME!
As a former county and federal prosecutor, as a former government contracts litigator and as a counsel to a large aerospace corporation with responsibility for compliane issues; I must admit that I am confused. There was a time that a quid pro quo of this nature would have been illegal bribery. (Actually, a little before my time.) We have seen the rise of the corporation to the extent that it negotiates directly with the government for the purchase of services, tax reductions and legislation. We need to categorize these agreements as what they are, the illegal purchase of government services, bribery and usurpation of a democratic government.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:38 pmSouthern man, were you born such an idiot or did you have to have brain surgery to remove your intellect and common sense. We know that coal and other forms of such energy are bad for the environment and cause significant health issues. Indeed, we know that the poor are the ones most affected by the fall out from the related pollution. The poor need to have access to electricity. They need to have access to better health care. They need to have a better life. It requires an economy that produces good jobs with a living wage. We just no longer see that in the United States. We have seen a reversal due to Neandrathal thinkers like yourself.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:42 pm“We can’t subsidize everything rhf.”
S&M-
February 20th, 2008 at 3:42 pmWe aren’t asking for new subsidies- just a transfer of oil, coal and gas subsidies to alternative energy and yes, to the poor who can’t afford their heating bills as well…
With record-breaking profits for oil companies I think they can do without our help for the next little bit-
ROTFL!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!! “Just subsidize..blah blah blah!!! We can’t subsidize everything rhf. The poor are paying the price for the actions of enviromentalist extremist who want to deny the Kansas residents new energy plants. Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
Actually the poor pay the biggest prices when Environmentalists DON’T stop actions! Why? Because refineries, mines and factories go in areas where poor people live, not rich people. The environmental movement started out of exploitation by groups like this, that had destroyed rivers, lakes and land, and completely ruined the livelihood and well being of countless POOR PEOPLE. Don’t give me that b**sh*t NRA/Republican CRAP about environmentalists harming POOR PEOPLE, because it’s just SMEARING, LYING IGNORANCE, and NOTHING MORE! If Big Oil wanted to help poor people, they could, they don’t, so STFU! They’ll charge AS MUCH as they can get away with, and stop being a MORON, claiming the CONTRARY!
It’s very simple rhf. The poor sometimes go without electricity because they cannot afford it. Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
And yet Corporations are walking away with TENS OF BILLIONS IN PROFITS instead of putting the prices at a FAIR LEVEL for the poor. Obviously THEY can and SHOULD help the poor, but they don’t. So STFU about reducing electricity costs, because it’s a red herring B88sh*t point!
But you don’t care about the poor. Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
I DON’T CARE about the POOR? ROTLF!!! HYSTERICAL PROJECTION! I’m the ONLY ONE here (not you) that put out a solution that would GUARANTEE lower prices. New plants don’t GUARANTEE ANYTHING - TARD, except MORE VOLUME and more ways to funnel off profites for the companies that build them!
You care about an extremist agenda against the energy companies that produce the energy, which hurts the poor. Reality sucks, but it is what it is. ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!! Let’s see if I can use it more than you today.ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!
And yes, I am a real piece of s*it. Thanks for noticing.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
Yes you ARE a real piece of sh*t, and it’s EASY to notice! Energy was CHEAP before you TARDS started CARING FOR THE POOR under BUSH, so STFU you IGNORANT INBRED MORON!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pmWell, I guess if bribery doesn’t work, Big Coal can always resort to telling Kansans that if they don’t approve these new plants, they’re going to die at the hands of terrorists.
/snark
Comment by Leftside Annie — February 20, 2008 @ 3:09 pm
Annie, you’re killin’ me!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pmSo SouthernTard is ALL FOR SUBSIDIZING THE RICH COAL COMPANIES, but not the POOR PEOPLE being GOUGED by them! Yeah, that’s REAL COMPASSION, SOUTHERNTARD!! ROTFL!!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pmSouthern Tard isn’t aware that we subsidize Oil/Coal to the tune of 250 BILLION a Year, NOT COUNTING IRAQ! You can deploy a lot of wind, biomass ethanol and solar for that amount of money!
Comment by republicans hate facts
“Just subsidize..blah blah blah!!! We can’t subsidize everything rhf.
Comment by Southern Man
want to address this SM? They are breaking records with their profits and we are still subsidizing them……why?
February 20th, 2008 at 3:47 pmIf the pollution and mercury just stayed in Red States I would say, go ahead and make your population even more braindead and diseased, but unfortunately it spreads to other states and to non-neanderthals in their state.
We have a saying here in Seattle about the south…Fcuk The South, three words directly to the point.
Buck Fush
February 20th, 2008 at 3:49 pmFred, didn’t you know all of those Fossil Fuel subsidies ensure CHEAP PRICES for the poor? Oh wait, THEY DON’T - NEVER MIND! ;)
February 20th, 2008 at 3:50 pmFred, didn’t you know all of those Fossil Fuel subsidies ensure CHEAP PRICES for the poor? Oh wait, THEY DON’T - NEVER MIND! ;)
Comment by republicans hate facts
Maybe sm will explain why it doesn’t work like that…….he did imply that this was all about helping the poor didn’t he?
February 20th, 2008 at 3:51 pmSouthern Man,
Do you really think Sunflower Electric and the coal industry in general give a damn about the poor and “affordable” energy? Are you that freaking STOOPID?!?!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:55 pmKansas, the best state legislature that money can buy!
February 20th, 2008 at 3:55 pmHey Big Coal and Big Oil:
HERE COMES THE SUN!
http://www.newsprism.wordpress.com
February 20th, 2008 at 3:57 pmReduce the taxes we the consumer pay for energy. That would be a good start.
Comment by Southern Man
oh so you knock 8 percent off of a 600 dollar energy bill and call it good…….is that your logic.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:57 pmReduce the taxes we the consumer pay for energy. That would be a good start.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
Or stop spending 250 BILLION a year subsidizing big oil?
February 20th, 2008 at 3:59 pmReduce the taxes we the consumer pay for energy. That would be a good start.
Comment by Southern Man
oh so you knock 8 percent off of a 600 dollar energy bill and call it good…….is that your logic.
8 percent would be all of the tax….is that enough for you sm….that would leave a poor working family with only a 552 dollar a month electric bill…….think sm…..is there anything else we could do to help the poor working class families in kansas?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:03 pmS&M, you’re not in Kansas anymore.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:05 pmwell get out the buttyerfly nets….sm has flipped.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:14 pmwhy can’t you just defend your notion of reducing taxes on energy as a way to help the poor sm?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:16 pmComment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
That’s nice… what about those Oil subsidies?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:17 pmWill I have to lean over every few minutes and ask you for the rest of your trip?
S&M?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:27 pmpoke- poke
You know,this is the reason that Democrats are going to win in November… but thanks for visiting, we surely do appreciate it.
we do appreciate some of you visiting us. But what we appreciate the most, is that you are going back home to screw up your own states.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Southern mammal sounds very gracious, in a d!ck-head, right-wing sort of way.
I suppose by blue staters “screwing up our own states” it means the markedly higher education levels, per captia incomes and cultural opportunities that typify blue states like New York, California, New England and the pacific Northwest.
Or perhaps it means the lower divorce rates or abortion rates that generally accompany a better educated population.
Or perhaps it means the way blue states typically send much more in taxes to Washington DC than they ever get back, unlike much of Red State America…
Is THAT the kind of “screwing up” the very gracious Southern Mammal means?
February 20th, 2008 at 4:32 pmBig coal must have thought a fertile breeding ground of intelligunt design would have given them extra leverage.
They can also try the state with a ban on abortion. More people to work at their plant (s) in unsafe conditions.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:32 pmI’m a Kansan and what really stinks about this is that it has been made clear that most the power generated will be going to Colorado while the pollution stays here (what doesn’t blow into Iowa) Despite that, Sunflower Electric has applied for a rate hike on Kansans to pay for the new plants.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:34 pmOh, and Southern “Man” , talk about Red States and subsidies at your own peril. The numbers show overwhelmingly that Red states, particularly the South, receive the most in Gov’t subsidies from revenue generated in the Blue states. If the South wasn’t so inbred and poorly educated, maybe they wouldn’t need all the handouts.
Just so you know, I get the anger at them.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
So why don’t you admit that subsidising this industry in the face of record-breaking profits is unconscionable…
February 20th, 2008 at 4:39 pm#29 Kansas, the best state legislature that money can buy!
Yes the Republican legislature is as corrupt as anywhere there is a Republican legislature. However, we do have the best State Governor! We sane people here in Kansas hope Kathleen Sebelius vetoes….
February 20th, 2008 at 4:41 pmIt seems to me that if “clean coal” really was clean, they should have no problem getting air quality permits, and they shouldn’t have to bribe anybody. By their own actions, they are as much admitting there is something defective about their product.
Perhaps instead of paying out money on bribes and full-page slam ads, they could spend that money making their processes cleaner. This would benefit everyone.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:43 pmAs a former county and federal prosecutor, as a former government contracts litigator and as a counsel to a large aerospace corporation with responsibility for compliane issues; I must admit that I am confused. There was a time that a quid pro quo of this nature would have been illegal bribery. (Actually, a little before my time.) We have seen the rise of the corporation to the extent that it negotiates directly with the government for the purchase of services, tax reductions and legislation. We need to categorize these agreements as what they are, the illegal purchase of government services, bribery and usurpation of a democratic government.
Comment by JMOHR — February 20, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
First step is recognizing what it is and calling it by it’s name: Fascism.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:46 pmIt takes time, and people have theâ€everything now†attitude that makes the process dificult to understand.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
I think people have a “get started now” attitude… I understand why the oil, gas and coal companies are interested in waiting but why are you?
February 20th, 2008 at 5:01 pmWell, in dear ol’ SouthernMannie’s world, the poor would be better off choking from the air pollution and getting cancer from the toxic waste produced by these coal plants - as long as they have cheap electricity to run their big screen TV’s!!
Can’t miss The O’Reilly Factor, eh, Mannie?
YAY!!
February 20th, 2008 at 5:05 pmall that, and, again -
$2.5 million … over 10 years is peanuts…
more of an insult than incentive…
February 20th, 2008 at 5:07 pmI do believe they are trying to expand alternative energy and other cleaner forms of energy. It takes time, and people have theâ€everything now†attitude that makes the process dificult to understand.
Comment by Southern Man
We went to the moon 10 years after we decided to do it……come on now….you will have to do better than that……they are not trying…..that’s why we will regulate them……
February 20th, 2008 at 5:08 pmSM-
February 20th, 2008 at 5:09 pmIt seems to me that investing in Nuclear at this point is a little like running out and buying a HD DVD player… yeah, it’s new and looks great on paper but the technology is a dead-end-
Investing in coal is like buying a Betamax-
Why can’t we start investing in things with a future instead of throwing good money after bad?
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
I agree that private energy companies are a bad idea- I’m just surprised to hear you say it…
February 20th, 2008 at 5:14 pmSouthern Man (like many of his ilk) believe that they are more self reliant, more industrious, more productive, more moral and more patriotic than those liberals. So let us look at the heritage and stock from which those like Southern Man hearld:
1. The Red States almost uniformly occupy the bottom of the list in terms of education (both quality and per centage of the popluation) thus it is hard to see the smugness that come from those with a higher illiteracy rate, lower high school graduation rate, lower college attendance rate than in general throughout the rest of the nation. We see the mythical belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and the denial of science through adopting beliefs in creationism and ID. No wonder why they take a stance against intellectuals. I guess that is the only way of denying that your area of the country is inferior in developing their minds.
2. We do know that education correlates directly to the earning power of individuals. Those with higher education forge the new technologies necessary to mover this nation ahead. Those with higher educational attainment earn more and contribute more to the tax base in this nation. The same is true of those individuals who have a better work ethic and are more willing to participate in the opportunities provided by this great country. How unfortunate that the Red States have the highest rates of poverty, lack of insurance coverage and other indicators that there people are indolent and unable to contribute to the economic success of this nation.
3. One would expect those in the Red States (since the Southern Man claims that the liberal states are worse run and have more problems than Red States) to contribute more in taxes than they receive in subsidies from Washington, have less on welfare, uninsured and other indicies that Southern Man believes establish people as leaches on society. Too bad Southern Man, Red States receive far more than they contribute to the tax coffers, lead in those uninsured and on welfare as a percentage of their populations. I guess we know the truth. Those of you in Red States are indeed the leaches on this society, you take but you do not give - you are the true welfare queens - which brings me to the next measure:
4. We know the moral superiority of the Red States and their hatred of the dreaded homosexuals that threaten the very foundations of our society. People who can not keep their peckers in their pants resulting in greater proportion of divorces, teenage pregnancies and unwed mothers obviously indicate those who are indeed morally inferior. Gosh, once again it is the Red States that lead in every single category. (Does this tell us something about your sexual orientation, Southern Man? Are you setting an example to undermine the institution of heterosexual marriage?)
5. Of course their are those other indicies of morality - a higher per capita rate of pedophilia occurs in those Red States as is also true of incestuous relationships.
6. The Red States believe far more than liberal states in the destruction of the wall between church and state, the use of torture and the pre-emince of the power of the state over the individual. So much for patriotism unless you mean the kind of uber patriotism of the Nazis.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:17 pmWe have a saying here in Seattle about the south…Fcuk The South, three words directly to the point.
Buck Fush
Comment by Buckie Boy — February 20, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
I grew up in Seattle, and I now live in a southern state. When I was in Seattle, I don’t remember any widespread hostility toward southern states (I do remember “don’t californicate Washington”, however). Maybe times have changed.
Yes, I now live in a red state. But there are a lot of us blue folks living here. The southeastern part of this country is a wonderful place to live, work, and raise children. There is more racial integration and less racism where I live than in any place I have lived previously. The people here — even people whose political ideology is different from mine — are friendly and welcoming. I live in the Triangle area of North Carolina, where we have a much higher concentration of Ph.Ds than the national average, three major universities, and cutting-edge scientific and medical research going on here.
We aren’t all toothless rednecks here. And we don’t deserve to have our environment polluted by industries more interested in false marketing than in delivering a clean product.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:18 pmwhat next? Kansans shilling for America’s Whale Oil Producers??
somebody please send them a calendar.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:19 pmComment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
Nuclear still doesn’t address the problem of the power grid… or of waste/pollution… or of NIMBY really…
February 20th, 2008 at 5:32 pmHow many people do you know who would prefer to have a turbine in their backyard rather than a cooling tower?
I know a fair few- admitedly I’m in Seattle myself but I think the feeling is fairly universal (I don’t hear f’ the South here really BTW)
In addition, the reason that France and other European countries are able to build so many nuclear power plants is that they have a strong central government-
Invest now in alternative and renewable energies and new industries will spring up around them-
I’m for harvesting the nuclear energy that the sun radiates each and every day…
Besides, weren’t we talking about coal?
February 20th, 2008 at 5:37 pmThe problem is all these people who say, “This is as good an option as we have today.”
Let’s start thinking about tommorrow… power plants take years to build- why would we build one using yesterday’s technology?
v
Nuclear is as good as an option we have today in my opinion.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
Too bad you’re such a fu(king idiot, or your opinion might be worth something. all of our posts today mark you as a liar, a hypocrite, and immoral piece of shit, and worse. you have absolutely no honor, and on top of that, you’re stupid. F the south is right.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:42 pmI agree, but we haven’t even seriously looked at solar yet. Few have looked at reducing consumption as an option yet, and I applaud you for doing so.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:58 pmBut I am getting tired of people rejecting ideas out of hand because we’re not there yet- of course were not. It’s time to get on the road to there- it’s time to stop subsidising oil, coal and gas… it’s time to stop standing in the way of truly visionary and revolutionary thinking about energy policy…
If Kansas approved the construction of these coal plants, but then deny them licenses to operate, then the coal companies should sue the state to reimburse them for their losses.
February 20th, 2008 at 6:50 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — February 20, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
I thought you guys were against trial lawyers and their unneccassary lawsuits…
February 20th, 2008 at 6:56 pmIf Kansas approved the construction of these coal plants, but then deny them licenses to operate, then the coal companies should sue the state to reimburse them for their losses.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 20, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
ROTFL!!! Another CORPORATE WELFARE FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT, from the BRIBING, STEALING REPUBLICANS!!! Hendler, your IGNORANCE AND HYPOCRISY IS HYSTERICAL!! ROTFL!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 7:10 pmI love you Lefty Patriot. If I was gay, I’d have you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Kisses!!@
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 5:51 pm
ROTFL!!! IF YOU WERE GAY (you probably are being a HOMOPHOBIC REPUBLICAN) A DISGUSTING PIG like YOU would have to PAY FOR SEX WITH MEN, just like you do WITH WOMEN!!! ROTFL!!
February 20th, 2008 at 7:11 pmI am looking into the new technology for gas powered hot water heaters. Instead of heating a 150 gallon tank, there’s a heater you put under your sink that heats the water thru it in seconds, saving a lot of energy and money.
I am tired of extreme political intrests on both sides making it harder to go in the most sensible direction. I agree that we need to look toward tomorrow, but since we haven’t gotten there yet, we need to rely on what we have, and look forward.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 5:49 pm
How about a SOLAR HOT WATER HEATER? They’re CHEAP, EFFICIENT and COST NOTHING TO OPERATE? BOTH SIDES? ROTFL!!! WHAT A MORON!!!! Only ONE SIDE F**KS the POOR and it’s YOUR SIDE, and YOU JUST KEEP BENDING OVER FOR MORE! I guess you were TRAINED THAT WAY by your DADDY?
February 20th, 2008 at 7:12 pmI was on a plane heading home from LA a few years back when a lady said the same thing to her friend. †F the south.†I leaned over the seat and advised her that we would now be flying over red states for the rest of the trip into New Orleans. Every few minutes I would tell her that this state we are flying over right now, voted red overwhelmingly. That they are the reason republicans keep getting elected. I did it the entire trip, with a big smile. When we got off the plane, I told her to enjoy her time in the south and we appreciate her visiting us. And we do appreciate some of you visiting us. But what we appreciate the most, is that you are going back home to screw up your own states.
Comment by Southern Man — February 20, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
And yet OUR STATES are GREAT PLACES TO LIVE, whereas RED STATES LIKE THE ONE YOU LIVE IN, WHINES AND WHINES AND WHINES about being GOUGED!! ROTFL, you’re a MORON that keeps VOTING AGAINST YOUR OWN INTERESTS because you HATE WOMEN SO MUCH you want to take away their OWN RIGHTS TO THEIR OWN BODIES!! F THE SOUTH IS RIGHT, you bunch of IGNORANT, INBRED, RETARDED FOOLS F* UP EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH! You’re the *SSH*LE of this country, and that’s why you’re ALL so F*LL OF SH*T! Have a Nice Day :)
February 20th, 2008 at 7:15 pm#68, belac,
Breach of contract is NOT frivolous. It costs tens of millions to build a power plant. If a state approves the construction, but then denies the operation, then the owner / builder has a right to sue for breach of contract, because approval to build implies intention to approve, otherwise, no one would ever build.
I don’t believe anyone would have any right or reason to sue if construction was denied, but denying approval after construction is a breach of contract.
February 20th, 2008 at 7:46 pmResponse to 73: I am sorry to say that there is no contract involved. Please cite some case law in support of your position.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:42 pmAs a mom raising children in Kansas, I am appalled by the legislatures actions. How dare they endanger the future health and world of my children in exchange for what the power plant companies are offering them? They should be too ashamed to walk into their offices each morning. They are setting up Kansas as the coal-fired power plant armpit of the nation in exchange for what? Power we send somewhere else?
They can try to scare us with cries of higher energy prices but when election day comes, we will only remember how they considered our health and well-being secondary to allowing big business to get what it wanted.
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:33 pmAND, if you live in Kansas, email your senator and representative your opinion! It is the only way we have to influence their up-coming bill and keep them from a 2/3 majority needed to over ride a Governor’s veto.
For gosh sakes, they are supposed to work for us…we need to scare THEM a bit…
Find your legislator at http://www.kslegislature.org/ legsrv-legisportal/ redistricting.do
February 22nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm