McCain: I Could Send U.S. Troops ‘Anywhere’ For ‘A Long Period of Time’
By on Feb 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am
McCain: I Could Send U.S. Troops ‘Anywhere’ For ‘A Long Period of Time’
On ABC’s Good Morning America today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was asked if he has “regrets” about “saying that the U.S. could be in Iraq for a hundred years.” McCain said he didn’t because — in his mind — the U.S. could have a military presence “anywhere” for a long period of time:
ROBERTS: So it’s clear you have no regrets in saying that the U.S. could be in Iraq for a hundred years.
MCCAIN: The U.S. could have a military presence anywhere in the world for a long period of time.
Watch it:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/McCainMilitaryPresence.320.240.flv]
Last month, McCain warned about the wars that he says will come after the war in Iraq, telling an audience, “I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars.” And perhaps there will be more long-term occupations too.
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Keep burying yourself McWhacko.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:38 amThe Straight Talk Excess
February 20th, 2008 at 10:39 amYes, anywhere in the world, except the country which actually attacked us:
http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
Wouldn’t want Tom Loeffler to miss out on a paycheck, now would we.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:39 amSanity is no longer a requirement for holding office in the US.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:40 amBy all means Johnny, you just keep trying to win the Vietnam War.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:41 amMcCain’s a dangerous whackjob, but I still think that your headline is misleading, TP. He didn’t say that he would place troops in the field for a long period of time; that is merely implied. I suggest that precision is paramount in such a critique.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:42 amNow that the nominees are pretty well determined (Obama and McCain), I certainly hope that we can begin a national dialog about many, many things. Chief among them will be the use of our military in foreign “misadventures” such as Iraq — and whatever else McCain apparently has in mind.
I really don’t think the U.S. is prepared to support another “Dr. Strangelove” but the debate should be very interesting. In the end, I am hopeful that my country will return to diplomacy as its primary focus and abandon the GDumbya mentality that McCain would only perpetuate.
I look forward to a President Obama!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:44 amThis is why republican turnout is a joke compared to the Democrats.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:46 amMcCain reveals that he doesn’t take the question seriously. I would seriously like to know what his plan would be for Iraq. Does he envision us providing defense for Iraq indefinitely? Does he envision us keeping a minor presence there? Does he envision us providing all defense and internal security as we are now? I’d also appreciate knowing why he feels we should be in Iraq indefinitely. Is it to satisfy our commitments under the Geneva Conventions? Is it for strategic reasons? Is it part of George Bush’s nation building? These flip answers just don’t cut it. All I learn is that McCain doesn’t care enough about the intelligence of the voters to give serious answers.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:47 amMcCain can’t help himself, he’s so giddy at the prospect of having the military control room to himself. “So many delicious buttons to push!”
The only way McCain will be president, is to have satan appointed to the supreme court. His first nomination, if that chance from hell exists, would be Don Rumsfeld as SecDef.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:54 am#4, Marcus – You beat me to the punch. In return here’s a quote from your Meditations, “To pursue the unattainable is insanity, yet the thoughtless can never refrain from doing so.”
February 20th, 2008 at 10:58 amImpeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution.
This is how McCantankerous will balance the budget and cut taxes.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 amIt’s almost funny that someone like this would be nominated.
I mean, with junior installed for . . . count ‘em . . . TWO terms,
it really goes to show what the position has become.
A place holder for the most disgusting criminal among us.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 amhe keeps crap-pola up and is gonna loose the RePUGs moderates, all 12 of them.
I know that there a few around, what are they gonna do when they get to the ballot box, hold their nose and vote for McBush, I think not. the RePUG party is in a real problem if they don’t put some ballet measures in states to bring in the voters like “Non Species Marriage” and “Proper Storage of Vegetables”, then they really are gonna be on the tail of the pile.
Course thats a good thing?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:04 amMonday night, at our monthly Texas Hold ‘Em get together, the talk inevitably turned to politics. Now, understand that most of the players (and yes, friends) are right leaning or permanently planted Rush’s ass. Also, understand that I can be a bit of a smart ass, as well as an antagonizer. As I wore my Michigan State jersey to a predominently Michigan Wolverine base, and was thus chastised, I sarcastically said “Well, wait until next month when I wear my Obama t-shirt” This, of course, got the predicted heated arguments rolling :-)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:04 amBut what I learned is that my very unscientific polling indicates that my friends, the ditto heads, believe after the primaries are finished, the country will be looking for a war hero to lead this country, and McCain may have a chance if he runs against Hillary. They also feel that Obama would only have slight edge.
I personally would not elect a war hero who “thinks” we could place our military anywhere, for any reason, for however long. This is exactly the thinking that now has us in the clusterfck called Iraq!
I wonder how my friends voting for McCain would feel if he implemented the draft to cover these possible hundred year wars?
I was watching the movie Boston Strangler. A reporter asked Henry Fonda how society has become this violent. He said “Is it any wonder since we spend 44% of our taxes on violence means”. And that was said in 1968.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:04 amGet it?
Comment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 10:58 am
I wonder if GG will skip posting the day after elections when all of it’s posing is shown to be wrong, like the trolls did in 2006.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:05 amMy question is why no one ever asks him where he is going to get the troops for his anticipated wars and occupations. It’s that liburl media for you, they never ask the right questions.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:05 am“He didn’t say that he would place troops in the field for a long period of time; that is merely implied. I suggest that precision is paramount in such a critique.”
Comment by Red Pill
He said “for a long period of time.” Your suggestion might be better directed at yourself, don’t you think?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:06 amTime to move on….nothing to see here…. sleeping soundly…
February 20th, 2008 at 11:07 amI would like to see either Clinton or Obama flatly state that the days of the American Empire are going to be brought to a close. The only candidate that has made this part of his platform has been Ron Paul. I find several of his stances way too extreme and could never support him because of it, but he HAS pointed out the harm we have done to both our own country and other countries by our imperialism. McCain acknowledges he would continue and propagate it as well. Clinton runs a close second. (Her vote in favor of the Iran Resolution was IT for me). And Obama has not made a statement regarding the “Manifest Destiny” thrust of our foreign policy.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:07 amI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 10:58 am
So have you served yet or, if not, when will you enlist? The military could certainly use you.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:07 amIf selected, McCain pledges to take leadership notes from The Simpsons’ Mr. Burns.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:07 amKeep talking John-boy. It gives Americans more reasons why you don’t belong in the White House.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:08 amComment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 10:58 am
Done putting the “libruls” in their place, g_g calmly returned to picking Cheetos crumbs from his beard, and since Mummy was at work and there was no one there to see it, eating them.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:08 amI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 10:58 am
No, you’re not sorry to “have to tell” us anything. You delight in your de-enlightenment crusade. Yes, there will always be wars as long as people decide to start them. It’s just that our once great country didn’t go out of the way to create circumstances conducive to, actually start, or impulsively or perversely involve us in wars. “Restore Our America” to what she once was by refusing to elect war-mongering leaders like McCain. Get it?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:08 amI wonder if GG will skip posting the day after elections when all of it’s posing is shown to be wrong, like the trolls did in 2006.
Comment by Wayne — February 20, 2008 @ 11:05 am
They needed time to mourn, Wayne…
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February 20th, 2008 at 11:09 am…
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Iraq is not the “war to end all wars.†Neither was WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, etc…. This is certainly not the last war the world will ever see. I’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_golly
Its like when you have a drinking problem……you have to first admit you have a problem before you can do anything about it. You are part of the problem…….
February 20th, 2008 at 11:09 amthe ditto heads, believe after the primaries are finished, the country will be looking for a war hero to lead this country
Gee, what a smart bunch.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:09 amYup, probably will be other wars. But, that doesn’t mean that the US needs to fight them. What happened to the conservative view that everyone had to take responsibility for their own actions. Shouldn’t that apply to nation-states as well? Then let’s let the rest of the world pick up the slack in the Middle East, if it’s really so gawd-awful important. Seems to me that for a region that provides a mere 15% of our imported oil, and not much else (other than a market for our weapons), the TRILLIONS we spend in the region could be better spent (or not spent at all, even better).
More wars. That’s thinking outside the box, eh? Can you say Loser.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:10 amMcCain, Bush and birthday cake…on 29th of August 2005.
What makes this picture unique is while they were celebrating McCain’s birthday on the 29th of August, destructive Hurricane Katrina that morning was storming the southern states coast ,which was predicted to be a Hurricane 5.
McCain’s birthday,the same day Katrina arrived on morning of 29th of August…Not a nice sign.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/katrina_sen.htm
February 20th, 2008 at 11:10 amI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Goon_golly thinks that we don’t recognize the fact that there will be other wars. We do recognize that fact. We just want the wars we get into to be justified and winnable. We want our government to stop invading countries that are not a threat to us and committing billions of dollars a month that we don’t have (otherwise we wouldn’t have to borrow it) to the occupation of a country where the people of that country want us gone.
I wonder if these people (GiGi and it’s ilk) ever think about the consequences if this country goes broke trying to rule the world (I still see “Brain” every time I look at Bush). Where are the rich going to get their dollars? When we are all poor and struggling to survive, there will be no money for us to spend on their products. The rich who are invested in the stock market will become instantly poor when the stock market crashes because no one in this country has any disposable income to spend.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:11 amComment by tarazan
Let them eat cake, then off with their heads!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:16 amSeems to me that for a region that provides a mere 15% of our imported oil, and not much else (other than a market for our weapons), the TRILLIONS we spend in the region could be better spent (or not spent at all, even better).
That weapons market is very important to the Republicans. It’s what makes many of them very rich. It’s too bad they never think about the consequences of unleashing so much weaponry in an area as unstable as the Middle East. There are no consequences if you are Republican.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:16 amI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 10:58 am
We’re not delusional, and we know that as long as the human race exists, there will be wars.
What is troublesome to us is that McCain seems to think this is just hunky-dory. He wants to escalate our efforts in Iraq. He wants to bomb Iran. He wants to invade Syria. He’s like a guy with a hammer who sees every problem as a nail.
Yes, there will be wars. And yes, there will probably be long-term occupations by us in volatile places. But I hope to God we consider other solutions (non-military ones) to world problems directly affecting us before we resort to armed conflict.
McCain can’t be trusted to do that.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:18 amJohn McBush: Another tortured soul who can’t admit to making a mistake.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:18 amSo McCain says that we can have a military presence anywhere in the world, for a long time, and no one can do aything about it, huh?
That’s gotta give his campaign a boost in a war-weary nation.
This is such a Shakespearean downfall — the very things that put the GOP in the position of power they craved (militarism, divisiveness, tough talk) are dooming it to irrelevance.
And McCain’s need to appease the far-right wing of the Party will doom his chances in the general.
Awesome.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 amMissMolly: Couldn’t agree with you more. John McCain still has “war karma” following him from his POW days. He’s angry and cannot be trusted to pursue peace when he can get his “paybacks” by being another war monger. His days as a POW simply will not permit him to take the higher road and the more difficult road to peace. For him and his war prisoner karma, it will always mean bullying without diplomacy and war posturing. And we’ve seen where this has gotten us – bankrupt and the pariah of the world!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 amI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_goony— February 20, 2008 @ 10:58 am
Ahh, you can always tell when you’re debating (?) with someone who has never known the sacrifice of serving in the military, or experiencing the greater sacrifice of having a loved one, serve.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:21 amPathetic, but typical.
But what I learned is that my very unscientific polling indicates that my friends, the ditto heads, believe after the primaries are finished, the country will be looking for a war hero to lead this country, and McCain may have a chance if he runs against Hillary. They also feel that Obama would only have slight edge
What I don’t understand is how McCain became a “war hero”. What did he do that was heroic? I don’t think that being a grunt soldier, who is captured and survives his captivity, qualifies McCain for being a “war hero”. He did nothing heroic.
Besides, why would this country want a “war hero” who is a total hawk on war? I think the fact that 70% of the people in this country want us out of Iraq and “the surge is working” hasn’t changed that number, pretty much shows that we are really tired of war, especially useless wars.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:21 amJohn McTorture, if given the power of the presidency, will never take the high road to diplomacy and peace. The temptation to “get even” for what was done to him while being a POW is far too great for him to not take advantage of it. Given the power, McCrazy will have us engaged in wars and conflicts all over the planet – to the total destruction of this country.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:22 am#44 – Similar to chimpy’s revenge on Saddam, eh?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:23 amthe ditto heads, believe after the primaries are finished, the country will be looking for a war hero to lead this country
Gee, what a smart bunch.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — February 20, 2008 @ 11:09 am
Actually, I perceive it as a “false hope”
February 20th, 2008 at 11:23 amKinda like feeling good in April about the chances of the Cubs winning the World Series, only to have reality come crashing down by mid June!
This statement of McCain’s is an attempt to show the wingers that he’s embraced the standard Rightist refrain – that we have bases now in other countries that have been there for decades, so a near-permanent base in Iraq is also acceptable.
It’s a pander to the worst elements of the Toxic Right.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:24 ambilbo: “war hero” is a construct of the GOPigs and McCrazy himself. There are facts out there which conflict tremendously with McCain’s heroic reputation and need to be investigated….thing like how Admiral McCain (his dad) helped to cover up his son’s Annapolis embarrassments for openers. Then we need to delve into discussions with his comerades during the war whose stories conflict totally with the ‘war hero’ concept – like the collateral damage to fellow marines, thanks to John McCain. This needs to be scrutinized carefully. He may be a total fraud.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:24 amHey, hey, USA
February 20th, 2008 at 11:26 amHow many kids did you kill today?
“…my friends, the ditto heads, believe after the primaries are finished, the country will be looking for a war hero to lead this country…”
Comment by DRxJ — February 20, 2008 @ 11:04 am
Your friends are, of course, clutching at straws. Besides the points you made about their argument, I’d like to add one.
War heroism and military service doesn’t really mean diddly-squat to the voters. If it did, John Kerry (the Purple Heart medalist) would have beaten Dubya (the Texas flyboy) in 2004. Bob Dole (the WWII casualty) would have beaten Bill Clinton (the draft dodger) in 1996. For that matter, Poppy Bush (the guy who got shot down in the Pacific) would have beaten Clinton in 1992. And Jimmy Carter (the Naval Academy graduate) would have beaten Ronald Reagan (whose WWII contribution was making military training films in Hollywood).
War heroism will be a factor in stump speeches and political ads, but when it comes down to it, it won’t matter to the voters.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:27 amIn 20000 we got a President with ADD.
Do we really need the next one to have PTSD?
McBomb never got ‘Nam out of his head. I understand how difficult that is.
But the fact is, he still sees the world as a place destined for war.
America needs visions of alternatives. Obama is that man.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:27 amWhat a sad, old insane and senile fool.
Someone please put him out of his misery.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:28 amPlease keep it up McCain. Between your war mongering ,bad temper,age,poor speeches and flipflopping a dem president should be a shoe in.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:28 amObama will chew McTorture up before our very eyes during debate but I don’t even think it will get that far. when the Viet Vets totally “out” his war hero rep, this candidate will be washed up and irrelevant. Last night he was using the teleprompter so much that he looked like a stiff and insincere old fool. I think the dementia factor makes for a very scary proposition with this man since apparently he, like his idol, The Chimp, can’t hold a single compelte sentence in his mind and orally transmit it.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:28 amMcDepends is an old, senile fool and it’s becoming more apparent each day as the people witness the incredible contrast between the vitality, charisma, and youth of Barack Obama. Just like he shouts down his detractors during his speeches (anger management anyone?) when Obama confronts his stupidity on critical things like the economy WarMonger McCrazy will come unglued. Then we will get to see what a razor’s edge this man functions upon. He’s always just one breath away from totally losing it. He’s McScary!!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:30 amOnce he loses the election in 08, maybe he can join his compadre, Bob Dole, and do a series of ED commercials? Not a bad Plan B for this geyser.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:31 amOr perhaps he can become the official “poster boy for PTSD”?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:32 amOnce he loses the election in 08, maybe he can join his compadre, Bob Dole, and do a series of ED commercials? Not a bad Plan B for this geyser. -whatevah
lol. I believe you meant geezer, but geyser & ED is hilarious!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:32 amAs I posted in the other McCain thread, why haven’t any of McCain’s war buddies (and those he was imprisoned with) stepped up with testimonials? Is it because they can’t stand him, or is it because of his torture stance? As the race heats up, some enterprising webbie might just look them up and ask them. You know the MSM won’t do anything to sully St. John, chances, so it would have to be an on-line interview.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:36 amKinda like feeling good in April about the chances of the Cubs winning the World Series, only to have reality come crashing down by mid June!
Comment by DRxJ
Being a DFW (Texas Rangers Baseball) native, at least you have a chance, damnit!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:38 amBeing a DFW (Texas Rangers Baseball) native, at least you have a chance, damnit!!!
Comment by DieNowForPeace — February 20, 2008 @ 11:38 am
Actually, I’m a Tiger fan, so realistically, I do have a chance! But being that I live in Kalamazoo, and am only 3 hours away from the friendly confines of Wrigley, they are my second favorite team.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:40 amMcBomb is unsuited to be president and even the American Conservative thinks so :
http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/cover.html
February 20th, 2008 at 11:41 amBut the fact is, he still sees the world as a place destined for war.
America needs visions of alternatives. Obama is that man.
Comment by Zimzone — February 20, 2008 @ 11:27 am
Obama is indeed the man for a radically different vision of the world. The most profound of profound questions however, is whether the world itself is ready for this vision. Because the history of our race is indeed “the world as a place destined for war.” So it has ever been since the very beginning of civilization and likely even before.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:43 amI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_golly
Only if the citizens of the current superpower allow it.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:45 amMcBomb is going to get an ol’ fashioned ass whooping come this Nov.!!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:47 am“the world as a place destined for war.†So it has ever been since the very beginning of civilization and likely even before.
Comment by Keltoi
destiny is in your hands. This is fatalism..Please do not drag me into what you consider to be your destiny.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:53 amBecause the history of our race is indeed “the world as a place destined for war.†So it has ever been since the very beginning of civilization and likely even before.
Comment by Keltoi
What race is that one? Caucasian…I would agree. But I would say that as species we are making a lousy job overall.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:53 am“the world as a place destined for war.†So it has ever been since the very beginning of civilization and likely even before.
Comment by Keltoi
changing this is what being a progressive is about….you have been listening to the wrong people…….they aren’t so wise.
“A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward.”
February 20th, 2008 at 11:55 am~Franklin D. Roosevelt
Please do not drag me into what you consider to be your destiny.
Comment by Fred
Fred, I’ve thrown at you a lot of crap, but that is one perfect, beautiful statement.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:55 amBecause the history of our race is indeed “the world as a place destined for war.†So it has ever been since the very beginning of civilization and likely even before.
Comment by Keltoi — February 20, 2008 @ 11:43 am
You make it seem like war is something that just happens. An inevitable and unavoidable situation that is thrust upon people. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
War happens because individuals in positons of power decide to make it happen. The stated reasons differ – to redress our grievances, to defend our interests, to secure our people, to fight terror – but the result is always the same – somebody profits. It doesn’t matter if that somebody is on the winning side or losing side. They’ll make money either way.
Also, people die. But mainly, somebody profits.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:59 amComment by Juan C
thanks for the encouragment Juan. I am trying to learn from the FDR quote…….we all make mistakes…..get up dust off and try to do better.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:01 pmMcCain needs to retire. He thinks that war is the only answer to world problems and disputes among nations.
I have no doubt that he will have his own cheerleaders of wars.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:02 pmWars should be the last thing any leader think about…but listening to McCain it seems like it is his first choice…
McCain on Obama …”eloquent but empty call for change that promises no more than a holiday from history and a return to the false promises and failed policies of a tired philosophy that trusts in government more than people.”
February 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pmThe present administration and republicans are ALL about big government. BIG deficit spending, and overarching intrusion on civil liberties, and meddling in the destiny’s of other countries for the benefit of American BIG business.
He attacks Obama’s ability to reach his audience by denigrating it as just “eloquent”. Well, senator, you do not have the chops to bring this country together or to heal the international wounds inflicted by your party.
America needs visions of alternatives. Obama is that man. -Zimzone
Obama is indeed the man for a radically different vision of the world. The most profound of profound questions however, is whether the world itself is ready for this vision. Because the history of our race is indeed “the world as a place destined for war.†So it has ever been since the very beginning of civilization and likely even before. -Keltoi
The World is ready; you folks just haven’t learned how to listen yet. This new Century’s destiny is sharply different from the last; people have instant global communication, & it’s scaring the shit out of the good ‘ol boys.
Priests, Politicians & the Military need wars; real people don’t.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pmThe Strange Talk Express is at it again…………….
February 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pmHe really is out of touch.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:09 pmEven if it’s true, there is no way he should be saying it.
McCain: I Could Send U.S. Troops ‘Anywhere’ For ‘A Long Period of Time’ with absolutely no concern about what it does to the troops and america.
McInsanewars you are toast, Obama is gonna be president give it up gramps.
Buck Fush
February 20th, 2008 at 12:13 pmSen. McCain will (hopefully, prayerfully) never be given the opportunity to send our soldiers anywhere.
With luck, and God watching over the US, the Democratic President will end the occupation in Iraq in 2009, and work at un-screwing our involvement in Afghanistan. We’ve screwed up in Afghanistan twice in the past 25 years.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:15 pmAnd let’s cut taxes so we don’t have money to pay for all these inevitable imperial excursions…?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:17 pmHas anyone ever interviewed his North Vietnamese captors?
February 20th, 2008 at 12:18 pmHas he always been this crazy?
Or did they do it?
McCain continues to mislead America today by saying Obama said he would bomb Pakistan. Obama had said he would go after high-value Al Queda targets there if the country’s president was unwilling to act. Their was a recent air strike on such a target. McCain failed to mention that.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:30 pmI’m sorry if you are so delusional that I have to tell you this, but there are going to be other wars. Get it?
Comment by good_golly
Only if Halliburton and Cheney need more money. Otherwise adults will find a calm and diplomatic way of comunicating to those that don’t agree 100% with our ‘vision’. Remember GiGi, Bush started out with a pretty good approval rating – now down to 19%. His ‘vision’ is flawed. Yours too.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm#81, leftcoast:
Obama also said,” if we have intelligence ,and it was presented to Pakistan..and Pakistan refused to act…then we will act…”
Pakistani leader Musharaf repeatedly said,we asked Americans”Tell us where Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda are hiding in Pakistan”.
Obama put conditions here:
If we have solid intelligence. And
If Paksitan refused to act…
I don’t think McCain will act differently under such circumstances.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:41 pmBut McCain wants to show that Obama lacks the experience, which he himself proclaims to have.
What race is that one? Caucasian…I would agree. But I would say that as species we are making a lousy job overall.
Comment by Juan C. — February 20, 2008 @ 11:53 am
Human Race, Juan….
February 20th, 2008 at 12:47 pmThe World is ready; you folks just haven’t learned how to listen yet. This new Century’s destiny is sharply different from the last; people have instant global communication, & it’s scaring the shit out of the good ‘ol boys.
Comment by Zimzone — February 20, 2008 @ 12:03 pm
Who are the “you folks” in this sentence?
I am a moderate conservative in the US. That makes me a wild progressive by the standards of much of the rest of the world.
How about the “folks” who blow up polling places in Pakistan, who plan more attacks on the US, who daily attack Israel, who commit genocide in Darfur, who fund Hamas, Hezbollah and Al-Sadr, etc. etc. etc. etc….
Please don’t waste our time on the list of people above; it is only a partial list in the first place and I don’t want to get into the blow by blow of just how nice all these folks really are as opposed to evil old us. My point is, if Obama is elected President, which I would call a very Progressive thing, do you seriously believe the rest of the world is going to say, “Oh, the US elected a black liberal, lets forsake violence now” ?
Part of me actually thinks there IS a chance he could usher in a New Day…I have said many times on this list I think he is capable of radical new directions much more than anyone realizes. I hope his efforts are more directed at foreign policy than domestic policy – it is hard to say what the focus of his Presidency would be based on his rhetoric thus far.
February 20th, 2008 at 12:59 pmDid I feel a DRAFT coming? Lets press more wars, then ask where to get the soldiers from: DRAFT…
February 20th, 2008 at 1:16 pmWould anywhere include home?
February 20th, 2008 at 5:31 pmSenile Old War-monger – He will burn in hell.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:50 am“Errors sanctified by long usage are not easily relinquished.”
Freeman Journal (Philadelphia), September, 1787
February 21st, 2008 at 9:51 amjust more tests from richard :)
March 14th, 2008 at 9:59 amAlso, understand that I can be a bit of a smart ass, as well as an antagonizer. As I wore my Michigan State jersey to a predominently Michigan Wolverine base, and was thus chastised, I sarcastically said “Well, wait until next month when I wear my Obama t-shirt” This, of course, got the predicted heated arguments rolling :-)
October 15th, 2008 at 3:31 amBut what I learned is that my very unscientific polling indicates that my friends, the ditto heads, believe after the primaries are finished, the country will be looking for a war hero to lead this country, and McCain may have a chance if apple a1185 black battery,apple a1175 battery he runs against Hillary. They also feel that Obama would only have slight edge.