McCain’s unethical relationships.
McCain’s unethical relationships.
The New York Times reports on Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) relationship with lobbyist Vicki Iseman during his first run for the GOP nomination in 2000, which often led to political favors:
A champion of deregulation, Mr. McCain wrote letters in 1998 and 1999 to the Federal Communications Commission urging it to uphold marketing agreements allowing a television company to control two stations in the same city, a crucial issue for Glencairn Ltd., one of Ms. Iseman’s clients. [...]
In late 1999, Ms. Iseman asked Mr. McCain’s staff to send a letter to the commission to help Paxson, now Ion Media Networks, on another matter. Mr. Paxson was impatient for F.C.C. approval of a television deal, and Ms. Iseman acknowledged in an e-mail message to The Times that she had sent to Mr. McCain’s staff information for drafting a letter urging a swift decision.
Mr. McCain complied. He sent two letters to the commission, drawing a rare rebuke for interference from its chairman.
The Times reports that McCain denied having an affair with Iseman.
UPDATE: In a statement tonight, the McCain campaign claimed that the Senator has “never violated the public trust, never done favors for special interests or lobbyists.”
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The problem is, no one expects a republican to be honest.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:03 pmAnd take a minute to check out the eclipse. It’s amazing.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:04 pmOh look folks the troll is trying to be funny.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:11 pmMORE BREAKING NEWS:
Bill O’Lielly finds his brain, it was in the shower drain, under the loofah.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:12 pmI bet little Johnny McInsane is using some really bad words right about now, and little Cindy is looking for the medicine cabinet. And Mikey Huckleberry is starting to sing “I’m back in the saddle again”.
Very funny, Dr Matt…
Apart from that… what IS that odor in here?
Oh… the bitter stench of troll desperation…
February 20th, 2008 at 10:14 pmShi-ite… the fog has come rolling in here… damnation!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:14 pmYes, the eclipse is really something, we are having a rare crystal clear night here in the Northwest. Breath taking.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:15 pmNote to JK
You have been flagged.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:15 pmI agree about the eclipse. I drove up to my lake place in Minnesota and it is totally dark and crystal clear here. I have had a fantastic view of the eclipse which started here about an hour and a half ago. It is total now so the moon is almost blood red. Amazing!
Regarding this McCain story in the NYT — it is going to produce so much hot air from the likes of Limpballs, Little Seanie Insanity, Mark Lavine, et. al. It has started already.
Oh, the outrage. Not against McCain, of course. Against that leftie main-stream media that’s lying about and abusing poor little Johnny.
This is so much fun!
And after they’re done with this, they can start in on Scary Cindy and her drug addiction, theft of drugs from an NGO that she funded with her daddy’s wealth, etc. It’s just too bad that these stories are coming out so early. Why, Mittens Romney might even be tempted to jump back in the race now that McCain’s horse is going to pull up lame.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:22 pmBREAKING NEWS!!
OBAMA CAUGHT IN A HOMOSEXUAL AFFAIR WITH PAGE!!!
DETAILS LATER!!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 20, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
Ignre this A$$hole Troll!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:23 pmIt’s ad hominem time already? The hits will keep on comin’!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:25 pmHas McCain came out & mentioned what kind of mood altering drugs he been on ?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:28 pmTime to flag the trolls.
Comment by Dr. Matt — February 20, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
Done.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:29 pmBREAKING NEWS!!
OBAMA CAUGHT IN A HOMOSEXUAL AFFAIR WITH PAGE!!!
DETAILS LATER!!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 20, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
details now!!! – who gives a s**t!!!!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:31 pmtroll john kerry caught quoting charles darwin at an abortion clinic whilst administering the marriage between several gay couples…..in arabic
WOW. Even clear here on the Oregon Coast. Awesome in the true sense of the word.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:31 pmThe eclipse is amazing!!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:32 pmMcCain of McCain-Feingold Fame
+
A Lot of Quality Time with a Lobbyist
=
Maverick-tastic!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:34 pmApparently, McCain likes blonds with weird eyes.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:35 pmThe timing seems suspecious for an old story.
McCain can deny it happened..unless someone has a video to show, the game of denial will continue.
Clinton denied first that he had anything to do with Lewinski, until the stained dress went to the lab. and the results compelled Clinton to admit…
But denial does not mean that McCain was able to wash his sins in the eyes of his party’s ultra Conservatives…
February 20th, 2008 at 10:36 pmMcCain reputation is going to be tarnished anyway,and large number of these Conservatives will say….we told you so…
19 – 20 should be reversed? =)
February 20th, 2008 at 10:38 pmRight, Zep. I should be on the Oregon coast, and jb should be here. :)
February 20th, 2008 at 10:39 pmTYZ =)
February 20th, 2008 at 10:42 pmWeird how thoughts transverse time, eh?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:43 pmIf this story is supposedly bunk as McCains campaign says,then why did he lawyer up back in December in an effort to have the NYT quash the story?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:44 pmWeird how thoughts transverse time, eh?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:44 pm[IE GTMA]
Cold enough here tonight, but probably a heat wave in Idaho.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:45 pmMcCain reputation is going to be tarnished anyway
Comment by tarazan — February 20, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
Yep! There is no stopping the snowball from rolling down the hill and growing bigger all the time. And the beauty is, the left did not start this thing, as much as the “wrong” will try to say it did. The Dems don’t have to do a thing here! Like an internet letter that you can’t stop from reaching millions, this one will hurt McBush tremendously. Can you imagine how much time, effort and money the McBush people will have to spend to try and kill this “rumor”?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pmyea, but, hey, bill oLIElly wants to lynch michele obama…
this is one sick country we’re dealing with…
February 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pmThis is gonna take McPimp down quicker than Kimbo Slice’s opponents.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pmjb,
If you call 35 degrees a heat wave, then yep. :-)
I’ve had enough of winter and snow. Ugh.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pmIseman may or may not have had sex with McCain, nevertheless old men are weak to attention by younger females.
The maverick is corraled.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:50 pmThe Christian Right have their guy now.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:50 pmflag the copiers too!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:52 pmApparently, McCain likes blonds with weird eyes.
Comment by Zooey — February 20, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
l o l … you noticed that too…
February 20th, 2008 at 10:54 pmUPDATE: In a statement tonight, the McCain campaign denied that the Senator has ever “betrayed the public trust.â€
Uh huh….
He never betrayed the public trust by going back on campaign reform.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:56 pmHe never betrayed the public trust by selling his soul on the torture issue.
He never betrayed the public trust by acting nucking futs in general.
/sarc
Probably about 40 here, but clear and dry. It has been a wet dreary winter. Though not much for snow.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pmnevertheless old men are weak to attention by younger females.
Comment by Xisithrus — February 20, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
Not all of us. I’m one year older than McBush and I prefer women close to my age. The young are so inexperienced about life that the only relationship I can conceive of is one of father and daughter. Now aside from a relationship, I really enjoy young people! Usually far more than folks over middle age. Some of the fire and rebellion is lost as we age.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pmComment by jb — February 20, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Thank your lucky stars, jb. We’ve had 4 feet of snow.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:58 pmMcCain’s new slogan, “No fool like an old fool”.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:59 pmMan if it was 40 here I’d head to the beach, it’s so cold and dry, my skin is chafed.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:59 pmDang 4 foot? Where do you live? Buffalo?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pmVery clear here, what a site, really cool .
Kinda gives you a strange feeling .
So . . . it sounds like Johnny may not be able to spin outta this one.
Ha, couldn’t happen to a nicer warmonger.
The icing will be when the pics of her client(s) and junior on Air Force 19-percent show up.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pmSome of the fire and rebellion is lost as we age.
Comment by Merlin — February 20, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
My parents will be relieved to know that. :-)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pmDang 4 foot? Where do you live? Buffalo?
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — February 20, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
Northern Idaho. It’s been a tough year.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:01 pmDon’t need no stinkin’ shovels out this way, but we have worn out the wipers on the car and we all wear rubber boots, the footwear of the proletariat.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:02 pmLiving in Idaho, or the cold? Just kidding, I bet it’s awesome there in the warmer seasons.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:03 pmYeah, the weather is really bad here in LA! It drizzled here last night and the temperature was down into the 70s today. Sure hope it clears by tomorrow and clear sunny weather in the 80s returns. ;
February 20th, 2008 at 11:04 pmI hate you Merlin.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:04 pmOld MC Romeo got caught.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pm‘Viagra is working, my dear friends’.
Living in Idaho, or the cold? Just kidding, I bet it’s awesome there in the warmer seasons.
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — February 20, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
I’ve lived in Idaho for 15 years, and I’m sick of it. I’m going to try to get out of this state for graduate school.
Summer is great at 2500 feet. :)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pmEclipse is getting better by the minute.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pm#3BREAKING NEWS!!
OBAMA CAUGHT IN A HOMOSEXUAL AFFAIR WITH PAGE!!!
DETAILS LATER!!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 20, 2008 @
And when you google that guess where it is
found?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=OBAMA+CAUGHT+IN+A+HOMOSEXUAL+AFFAIR+WITH+PAGE%21%21%21&btnG=Search
It reads:Think Progress » McCain’s unethical relationships.
OBAMA CAUGHT IN A HOMOSEXUAL AFFAIR WITH PAGE!!! DETAILS LATER!!! Comment by John Kerry — February 20, 2008 @ 10:06 pm. McBoner McHornybastard McViagra …
thinkprogress.org/2008/02/20/mccains-unethical-relationships/ – 58 minutes ago -
Not too cook JK.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pmComment by Merlin — February 20, 2008 @ 11:04 pm
Have you met gummitch? He’s a good weather rubber-inner as well. Grrr….
February 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pmComment by the Lone Voice of Reason — February 20, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
Where are you freezing your hiney off?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:08 pmZooey so can I asume it was Idaho that killed Hemingway.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:10 pmDamn, the eclipse has moved into some high clouds.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:10 pmIt is still clear here in Michigan. I can see it fine.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:11 pmSouthern Idaho would kill anyone. Ugh.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pmI love it here in Michigan but with the water table so high it kills me with my asthma in the fall and winter. When my kids are both out of school, me and the little lady are gonna do a gypsy move and pull up stakes and head west.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:15 pmJust don’t tell the kids you’re moving. :-D
Anything out west is going to be dryer than Michigan — except Portland and Seattle. I love Montana, but I’ve had it with harsh winters.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pmHave you met gummitch? He’s a good weather rubber-inner as well. Grrr….
Comment by Zooey — February 20, 2008 @ 11:07 pm
You are welcome here in LA. Come and enjoy the San Fernando Valley in Aug-Sep when the temp is over 100 and the hot Santa Ana winds blowing make you feel you are in front of an oven with a fan in the back.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pmYou’d think someone burnt in the Keating scandal would pay attention to the appearance of squeaky clean. Not Johnny McBrain.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pmHey Merlin, that’s where I grew up, a Granada Hills boy.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pmBothel, Washington is so much greener.
In august I visited some friends in N.Cali, pretty nice.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pmAt tomorrow’s news conference, little Johnny McCain will say, “I never had lobbyist relations with that woman . . . Vicki Iseman”.
Mark my words.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:23 pmComment by Merlin — February 20, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
Um, no thanks. :-)
I’ve done California already — born out in the desert, and grew up in Bay Area.
I prefer to live in a place where I can get a nice $30,000 house for $100,000, rather than $1,000,000.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:24 pmYou’d think someone burnt in the Keating scandal would pay attention to the appearance of squeaky clean. Not Johnny McBrain.
Comment by RUCerious
February 20th, 2008 at 11:24 pmYou’d think someone who’s been around since Moses wore short pants would know better.
The top half of the moon is now shadowed, the bottom half bright silver. How cool is this?~!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:24 pmComment by tom — February 20, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
“Lobbyist relations”
Now all the kids will be doing it…
February 20th, 2008 at 11:26 pmHey Merlin, that’s where I grew up, a Granada Hills boy.
Bothel, Washington is so much greener.
My daughter lived in the Portland Oregon area for 18 years and my many visits there were wonderful. The Pacific Northwest is really lovely, if you don’t mind the rain. However being a native New Yorker for 26 years I dearly love it here in LA and would never want to leave. (Being very color weak in red and green takes away the beauty of the Northern greenery. Everything kind of looks the same to me. Like brown.)
February 20th, 2008 at 11:26 pmIt is so very cool RUC
February 20th, 2008 at 11:27 pmThat is one powerful eclipse.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:28 pmAmazing. The moon moved above the clouds. Anyone know what planets are close by? I can see two.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:29 pmDamn, clouds just came in to hide the eclipse….still
February 20th, 2008 at 11:31 pmyea… amazingly desperate… that’s it…
February 20th, 2008 at 11:34 pmComment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
McCain smears himself.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:34 pmi can’t see the eclipse now, unless i go outside…
February 20th, 2008 at 11:36 pmno thanks… -0s tonight…
i saw enough of it before and during the red phase…
very cool… i’m glad i have binoculars too…
gi-gi, you really aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?
You will not find Obama running smears. That is the domain of the republics. If you think someone planted this story for political gain, then it most likely someone like Mitt Romney who is creaming his jeans to “un-suspend” his campaign. Or maybe GDumbya and Darth Cheney who are looking for some way to finagle a third term.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:39 pmThe planet Saturn, and the star Regulus are visible near the eclipse. If memory serves, the more twinkly one is Regulus.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:40 pmMcCain’s unethical affair has been eclipsed by his constant flip flopping and pandering extreme right wingers.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:40 pmWhat did you expect from the only member of the Keating Five still serving in Congress?
McCain ran on the campaign finance reform platform in 1999 because he wanted to turn his biggest weakness into his biggest strength. It’s Rovian politics 101, although Rove likes to turn it around and make the opponents biggest strenghth their biggest weakness (like turning John Kerry’s bravery in Vietnam into him being a coward who faked his injuries and did not deserve his medals….or how they’re now trying to turn Obama’s speaking ability into a weakness by saying he’s all talk).
These guys remind me of old NFL coaches trying to use their same old plays when the league has completely moved in a different direction. McCain is running the option while Obama is using the Patiots and Colts spread-offense.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:45 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — February 20, 2008 @ 11:48 pm
As they get more and more desperate, we can expect dirtier and nastier and more underhanded tactics from them.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:52 pmI feel torn about this issue. We honestly can’t be hypocrites and say that this is a big issue when most of us decided that extra-marital affairs did not affect Clinton’s job.
On the other hand, if you are “in bed” with a lobbyist, it calls into question your lobbying reform efforts.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:53 pmI think McCain has many more serious faults than the occasional humping of blondes with million mile stares. But to some out there, this will be a big deal.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:56 pmYo Arn, are ya a Houghton kinda guy?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:57 pmKgprophet,
I personally do not care about the affair alone. That’s between McCain and his wife. It’s a personal issue, not related to his job.
It’s the lobbyist part that worries me. Accepting sexual favors in exchange for political favors should be just as illegal as accepting monetary bribes in exchange for political favor. I think it’s even lower to sell yourself for sexual favors. For his own staff to have to step in, they must have known political favors were being given.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:57 pmOur poor gigi troll is so pathetic. We don’t have to or need to smear McCain, he does such a great job of stepping in shit it almost smears itself!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:58 pmMcCain got shot down over N. VietNam, I was awarded a Bronze Star. I ain’t no war hero, and neither is he.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:00 amall of the above, Kgprophet @ 11:53 pm
…
gotta watch keith now… the daily colbert was repeats tonight…
g’nite everybody…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:00 amYeah, Arn, I know, two ells, but my late night typing skills suck.
BTW, we live three blocks from the Mill Creek border!
February 21st, 2008 at 12:00 am“I feel torn about this issue. We honestly can’t be hypocrites and say that this is a big issue when most of us decided that extra-marital affairs did not affect Clinton’s job.”
There is no apt comparison between the two, as Clinton did no favors for Monica.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:01 amNite katy, me too, Miss Amber and I are off to slumberland.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:01 amI just read this same story here:
http://beertap.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/john-mccain-caught-cheating-on-his-wife/
Also on that same blog is a petition asking Senator Clinton to release her tax returns. Apparently for some reason she refuses to.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:02 amSo Mr. McSaint was caught having fun with a blond?
February 21st, 2008 at 12:07 amClinton did no favors for Monica.
Comment by barfly — February 21, 2008 @ 12:01 am
um… coming from a silly little romantic’s voice of experience,
yes, he did…
but i know what you mean…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:11 amWell, well. Our JK troll has crossed the line and committed libel. Buh-bye.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:13 amThe blogosphere is abuzz with the New York Times story about presumptive GOP nominee John McCain and the nature of his relationship with lobbyist Vicki Iseman. It remains unclear why the paper sat on the story since December. But whether or not the New York Times has had the goods on him, it didn’t stop the Times from endorsing John McCain in the state’s Republican primary last month.
For the details, see:
February 21st, 2008 at 12:15 am“NY Times Endorsed McCain Before Running Scandal Piece.”
I doubt if McCain lost many votes from this crowd by this story, true or not. GG excluded of course. The point is that he will lose some from the right wing Puritans that he has been desperately sucking up to recently.
It’s the hypocrisy stupid. You can’t wrap yourself in that stained mantle of Family Values when you just wiped your dick off on it now can you John?
February 21st, 2008 at 12:28 amAnd we’re still eight months out from the conclusion to all this.
It will be enormously enjoyable, watching the programmed self-destruction of the republican nominee, and his running mate, whoever that poor sod is.
Now there’s a tragic figure….
Like being placed temporarily in charge of securing the Titanic’s deck-chairs…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:29 am“It’s the hypocrisy stupid. You can’t wrap yourself in that stained mantle of Family Values when you just wiped your dick off on it now can you John?”
Comment by nanlichi
He’s been using Chuck Berry’s “Johnny B. Goode” as a campaign song. He should change it to “Reeling, Rocking and Rolling:
We did it in the kitchen
We did it in the hall;
I got some on my finger
and I wiped it on the wall…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:34 amComment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:31 am
We’ve certainly learned our lesson.
**eyes rolling**
February 21st, 2008 at 12:39 amI wonder if the media will censor this story…after all it is St. McCain…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:41 amJK, Get a life…your talking points and your nonsense are always debunked here…well to give you credit, at least you’re being original this time with the Obama + page BS, whereas before you would always repeat the GOP talking points…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:42 am“He should stop running because of this clear cut proof!!”
Comment by John Kerry
Ironic, eh? Who was the last democrat who got the media slime treatment?
Why, wasn’t it… John Kerry?
Heh, heh, heh…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:43 amFlag the troll.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:44 amFlag the troll.
Comment by Zooey — February 21, 2008 @ 12:44 am
The first libelous post is already gone.
I ain’t had this much fun since the hawgs et my baby brudder.TM
February 21st, 2008 at 12:50 amCASE CLOSED!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:31 am
Come and see the troll dance in desperation, folks. Vainly trying to make the story go away. And just when you think it is gone, there it is again. It is like a snow ball rolling down the hill. It has its own momentum and grows as it goes. There is simply no stopping it.
BwaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa
Listen and weep trolls! BwaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa
February 21st, 2008 at 12:51 amI ain’t had this much fun since the hawgs et my baby brudder.TM
Comment by pete — February 21, 2008 @ 12:50 am
Yours too? :D
February 21st, 2008 at 12:52 amThis bullshit story on Mc Cain has ABSOLUTELY no proof!!
CASE CLOSED!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:31 am
There are 4 pages at the NY Times full of facts read the article JK. You’re going down.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:52 amYep it was me, the decorated Vietnam hero who spent 2 months there!!
Comment by John Kerry
You should look up the meaning of irony. I don’t think you quite grasp the concept…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:52 amComment by Merlin — February 21, 2008 @ 12:51 am
I love the sound of desperation in the night. Smells like victory!
February 21st, 2008 at 12:53 amYours too? :D
Comment by Zooey — February 21, 2008 @ 12:52 am
Yep. Right after he throwed rocks at my Gramma.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:55 amComment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:39 am
Nice to see you again John. Is everything okay? Remember you can always reach out when you feel you need to. One day at a time. One day at a time
February 21st, 2008 at 12:56 amEverybody should read all four pages of this NY Times article when you get time. It’s delicious.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:56 amRead it and weep, trolls! McBush is toast.
A new Rasmussen poll notes something that makes cable pundits’ heads explode everywhere:
61% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year. That’s up a point from a week ago and two points from two weeks ago. Over the last eighteen weeks, the number wanting troops home within a year has ranged from a low of 57% to a high of 64%.
Twenty-four percent (24%) now want the troops brought home immediately.
Looking at the other end of the spectrum, 34% want troops to remain in Iraq until the mission is complete. That is down two points from a week ago. The number of Americans who want the troops to remain and finish the mission had ranged from 32% to 39% since tracking began.
McBush is running on a war platform!!!
February 21st, 2008 at 12:56 amYou must be pretty desperate and think the Obama brotha’s inexperience and out of control wife will go down in defeat vs Mc Cain!!!
I love it!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:55 am
Yeah and you fascist thugs must be pretty desperate to threaten lynching Michelle Obama and calling a Princeton and Harvard Law graduate “out of control”.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:58 amComment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:55 am
You have been flagged
February 21st, 2008 at 12:59 amMcCain’s advisors assured him that Hillary would be his punching bag. But now he has to retool his stock of bigotted code-words, since it looks like Obama will be the candidate. He’s been bashing Hillary, but he can’t do that with Obama without turning off the electorate.
The country wants change – and he even needs help changing his Depends.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:01 am. . . and just when Guiliani and Gingrich had restored my faith in the Republican Party as an organization based on family values . . .
February 21st, 2008 at 1:01 amG’night all. Don’t be too hard (a logical fallacy) on the trolls. It must hurt when one’s only hope gets snatched away.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:02 amThis from over at DailyKos
Wow. 19%?
by mcjoan
Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 09:57:04 AM PST
This is almost too drastic to believe.
George W. Bush’s overall job approval rating has dropped to a new low in American Research Group polling as 78% of Americans say that the national economy is getting worse according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.
Among all Americans, 19% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 77% disapprove. When it comes to Bush’s handling of the economy, 14% approve and 79% disapprove.
Read it and weep McBush lovers. How do you like your toast? It is going to be well done in November.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:03 amYep. Right after he throwed rocks at my Gramma.
Comment by pete — February 21, 2008 @ 12:55 am
Oy…must not have been all that smart anyway. ;)
February 21st, 2008 at 1:03 amI love it! You left nut wackos will grasp at ANYTHING won’t you EVEN with absolutely no proof.
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:55 am
Yeah, like that weird God stuff. I can’t believe people believe in such stuff in the absence of proof
February 21st, 2008 at 1:03 amComment by John Kerry,
February 21st, 2008 at 1:04 amIf I were you, I would not be getting much sleep tonight… did you know your liable statement is in google? I left a link of it in my post now #55.
She’s just a LITTLE (ha!) out of control and has tried at least three times now to change her original story!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:00
No it’s your team that edited the tape to take out words. Get an effing clue you moron.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:06 amComment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:06 am
Great the same stuff 6 hours later. Thanks. I actually read it the last time you asked me to
February 21st, 2008 at 1:09 amComment by Zooey
February 21st, 2008 at 1:09 amYou lived in the desert? The Mojave desert? I spent a good part of my teen years there…California City, Mojave, Edwards Air Force Base, Ridgecrest some of the best ever memories.
Yep JK Americans feel better because you fascist are circling the drain. Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. Right after the election your team will be filling up the federal prisons and the citizens of this “proud” nation will be dancing in the streets.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:10 amTry taking some valium tonight Shayne old buddy. I promise you’ll feel better in the morning!
PHEW!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:09 am
I would buy Cindy McCain stole my supply, again. Buh bye, losers.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:11 amthe DAILY KOS is your bible.
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:11 am
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You have no idea how wrong you are
February 21st, 2008 at 1:13 amHey folks, the troll is touting a Zogby poll! Highly reliable pollster, that Zogby. Not a bit partisan. Nosiree! Not even a bit.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:15 amComment by had enough — February 21, 2008 @ 1:09 am
I was born in Twentynine Palms. :-)
February 21st, 2008 at 1:15 amComment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:13 am
“The vast majority of RIGHT thinking people are wrong”
February 21st, 2008 at 1:18 amGreat comment Shayne! Did you drop out after the 6th grade??? Brilliant statements!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:13 am
I think you started it with the lie about Obama. Of course my statement is grounded in fact unlike your total fabrication.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:20 amAmerican Research Group – highly reliable!! Not a bit partisan!! CASE CLOSED!!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:16
How does it feel to be one of the 17 percenters, dumbest people left in the country. Loser.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:21 amSorry you missed the quotes John.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:23 amI was making a reference to a great Python routine
Comment by Zooey
February 21st, 2008 at 1:28 amTwentynine Palms… closer to LA. I have great memories living in the Mojave Desert, but I am afraid if I go back and revisit that area – California City/Mojave the memories of what was would be ruined. It seems everyone I meet from that area now are on crack or weird.
Comment by had enough — February 21, 2008 @ 1:28 am
I went back as an adult, and really was not impressed. I think the things that makes places so great are the friends and experiences, not necessarily the place.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:32 amWell Shayne, not exactly correct!!! Methinks it all started with the NY TIMES lie about Mc Cain. I simply reversed things. It doesn’t take much to confuse you!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 1:22 am
Well McCain is a known philanderer, do you know anything about your candidate. You have a lot to learn if you think this story is made up. You are going to be so surpised.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:32 amYou must be pretty desperate and think the Obama brotha’s inexperience and out of control wife will go down in defeat vs Mc Cain!!!
I love it!
Comment by John Kerry — February 21, 2008 @ 12:55 am
jk you seriously think that ole macca will give obama a decent run? – come on “my friend”,macca will go down faster than a 2$ hooker in november regardless of whether it is hillary or obama – and looking at him he is under incredible stress just to keep his temper!!! – it stands out like dogs balls and the dems should leap on him at every opportunity – they only need to keep reminding people of 2 things that macca stands for:the war and wasting lives and money,and his about face on torture – keep it simple dems – start chipping away at him now and sooner or later he will lose it completely.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:33 amso jk the gig grin on johnny’s chubby little chops wont last too long – what are the odds on a pre-november meltdown?
Good Evening Shayne and some other’s….Just making a quick fly over…Notice we have our usual amount of troll’s droping dung here and there..Even Ms. Tracy2 showed up, so cut she is…Not real smart but cute..You all are doing a bang up job of pointing out fact’s but as usual they can not comprehend…LOL..You can’t fix stupid….But good try anyway..I send you all Blessings and thank’s for the troll wacking, it’s so fun to watch…
February 21st, 2008 at 1:42 amWell Tracey isn’t any dumber than JK so she probably is all full of herself tonight. Have a good one #1.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:44 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 1:43 am
The story HAS legs Tracy, they belong to Vicky Iseman. Duh. Oh and McCains’s very old and shriveled leg is in there too.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:46 amOne man served in one of the nastiest assignments in the Vietnam War and risked his life to save a buddy. The other dropped bombs from a long ways away and spent the war sadly, in a POW camp.
One is called a hero and the other was slimed by the most miserable pukes to infest our land.
One of these maggots even went so far as to take John Kerry’s name in the blogosphere.
Lick my rim again JK, then I will owe you two.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:48 amBack at ya Shayne….Think it knees, you remember the left knee, right knee or wenee….LOL…Sorry I just had to add that…Blessings
February 21st, 2008 at 1:50 amI was right Shayne, isn’t she cute, dumb but cute….Remind’s me of a sophmore blond..High school can be so hard on some teen girl’s…Blessings
February 21st, 2008 at 1:53 amThrow some Mydol at the poor little troll, she’ll be alright in a few day’s..
February 21st, 2008 at 1:56 amstopobama08.blogspot.com
February 21st, 2008 at 1:56 amI was right Shayne, isn’t she cute, dumb but cute….Remind’s me of a sophmore blond..High school can be so hard on some teen girl’s…Blessings
Comment by Witch1 — February 21, 2008 @ 1:53 am
Especially one that rides the short bus to school like Tracy does.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:01 amShayne, Yep!….Someone told me they have med’s for her type of condition, guess she missed her dose……Blessings
February 21st, 2008 at 2:03 amNo again, were are the facts regarding the sexual allegations made by the NY Times? This isn’t hard….or is it?
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 1:57 am
It’s so cute the way you know nothing about your candidate and his wandering. How he cheated on his first wife with several women before he found one rich enough in Cindy the drug head. Too funny you think we didn’t learn how to play the game from Karl Rove. It’s easy, you’ll find out. You may end up with Huckabee as your candidate by the end of the week. Cheers princess.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:04 amShayne, Yep!….Someone told me they have med’s for her type of condition, guess she missed her dose……Blessings
Comment by Witch1 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:03 am
Midol can only fix Tracy’s personality but it won’t make her smart. Poor stupid thing.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:06 amMcCain would certainly try and get a lobbyist believe that if he got some sexual attention that he would do some favors. I believe this because he is busy trying to make the right wing of the party believe that if he gets some support he will do their bidding. He repeatedly proves himself a man of principles. The principles being that one may say anything to get what one wants and once one gets it one can do anything to keep it.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:06 amDon’t whine Tracy McCain hasn’t cheated on you. Just every other woman in his life. Don’t personalize it girlfriend.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:07 amHey Tracy you don’t believe us, why don’t you look up all the dirt Bush/Rove dug up on him during the 2000 election. That’s why they didn’t have to use this, there was so much on him already. There’s a long list of bimbos out there just waiting to rat your boy out. They’re just going to trickle out until November.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:10 amShayne, ment to mention, great job on the post’s at the other site….Hectick day, was exausted and crashed for a few hour’s, missed the eclipse and am headed back to the sack again..Catch ya on the flip side…Thank’s again for all you do….Blessings
February 21st, 2008 at 2:11 amYep RHF it’s going to be good time up until November. Free Republic has a whole list of McCain’s pecadillos thanks to Bush/Rove and all the crap they dug up on him. Are they going to blame that on us too. Let them have at it. What a bunch of fools.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:11 amThanks #1 get some rest. I’m off in a minute two. It’s just two much fun watching these losers go down.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:12 amComment by good_golly — February 20, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
you’d know about smearing about smearing a war hero.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:13 amThanks I will take your shit as fact. BTW why are you too much of coward not to sensor you little mouth?
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:05 am
?
you’re still here?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:15 amhttp://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=720636
Here Tracy, JK there’s more on the story coming out.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:16 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:15 am
i’m enjoying your suffering… whimper a little more for us tracy.
we love it.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:18 amOne last shot Shayne, not only is she dumb as a sand box full of kitty crap she has the old reich winged stand by we hate people that get blow job’s because we don’t or can’t get one…..ROFLAO…Way to funny….Blessings
February 21st, 2008 at 2:19 amHere Tracy, this is about his first wife. http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm
And this is about Cindy’s drug habit.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:19 amhttp://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/
This is awesome, this thug is going down.
Pass the popcorn.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:20 amWhen did I say I didn’t believe you?
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:19 am
gg?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:21 amNobody needs to demafe McCain. His policies defame him enough. 100 years in Iraq and less jobs at home. We should all attack him there.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:21 amPass the popcorn.
Comment by ctalk — February 21, 2008 @ 2:20 am
i’ll have some… with butter!
February 21st, 2008 at 2:22 amDo you have any facts to add to the validity of this story? BTW why didn’t BJ Clinton’s known flandering have any affect on your opinion of him….or did it?
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:15 am
I don’t know Tracy, Bill kept his wife, didn’t dump her for the first rich woman who made him an offer. Hillary’s not complaining. I wonder if McCain’s first wife, the one disable while he was in Viet Nam that didn’t want to bother him with her troubles and raised his children without complaining has anything to say.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:22 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:23 am
poor little tracy, red faced with shame and humiliation…
have some popcorn.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:24 amNo he just gave them jobs as interns so he could poke them when he wanted to. Semantics isn’t your strong point.
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:23 am
That’s funny, you think Bill gave her the job as an intern. Because he had nothing else to do besides assign intern posts. You are dumber than a box of rocks aren’t you princess?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:25 amI enjoy you guys frothing at the mouth about a non story.
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:24 am
rotfl!
February 21st, 2008 at 2:25 amDon’t worry Tracy, this non story will probably have McCain dropping out and then Chuckleberry will be your candidate.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:26 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:24 am
have some some popcorn tracy…
doesn’t that feel better?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:27 amMcBush married his current wife, Cindy, only one month after he divorced his first wife.
Of course he wasn’t doing anything (wink, wink) with Cindy while he was still married. Heavens no! They were abstaining, of course. Like good Christians. (Heh, heh, wink, wink.)
February 21st, 2008 at 2:29 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:27 am
keep swinging tracy… that’s a good little troll!
want some popcorn?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:29 amComment by Merlin — February 21, 2008 @ 2:29 am
good point!
little tracy?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:30 amIt make no difference that Clinton was a public official when he had his multiple affairs?
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:27 am
You don’t think McCain was a public official while he had his fling. A senator isn’t a public official? Hey we’re not voting for McCain and his 100 year war. If it doesn’t bother you that he a cheater who does his business with lobbyists he does favors for it doesn’t bother us. It’s just so funny the way you hypocrites spin everything.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:34 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:33 am
so you’re giving up?
wimp.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:36 amKeating 5 Tracy, we’re still waiting for you to explain that involvement. Oh and Cindy and her father were involved in that little scandal too. I wonder what Cindy has to say about this Iseman relationship since McCain wouldn’t even be a Senator without her and her daddy’s money. I bet things are cold in that house tonight.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:37 amSure! Care to wager on that?
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:35 am
hey trac…
the man’s name is huck
huck huckabee.
and he’s a jesus man.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:37 amDoesn’t matter to me or anybody else with half a brain Tracy. They’re letting McCain have the nomination because it’s a sacrificial position to be in anyway. Might as well not waste a viable candidate this time around. Let that psycho McCain have it. Only you 17 percenters are so stupid you don’t know it’s a big waste of time. You same idiots who think W has a 30% favorable rating.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:40 amDoesn’t matter Tracy, Hucabee, Romney, McCain are all losers in 2008. The GOP is dead only you meatheads haven’t figured it out yet.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:41 amComment by Shayne — February 21, 2008 @ 2:41 am
oh no, the gop is the party of tracy and gg and walnuts and his girlfriend…
lol!
February 21st, 2008 at 2:44 amWhat’s wrong Tracy, cat got your tongue? Poor kitty. You going to wait until everybody is gone and then come back and finish up the thread you pathetic little coward. You are such a predictable pansy, even for a little girl you’re a big sissy.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:46 amWe’re waiting for you to finish up the post with your damn lies little girl. Come on, I can’t wait to see you chasing your tiny little tail when you thing everybody is gone. How can you type while you’re holding your baby doll princess?
February 21st, 2008 at 2:47 amThe campaign did not report the flight with Ms. Iseman [on the Paxson corporate jet, in February 1999]. Mr. McCain’s advisers say he was not required to disclose the flight, but ethics lawyers dispute that.
Hmmm… Now why wouldn’t they have reported that flight??? They reported the other 4 of them. Oh yeah, he says they weren’t required to.
Could there have been some hanky panky going on then that St. John did not want the public to know about? Nah, he is Mister Straight Talk. And a goood christian too. He doesn’t do hanky panky.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:48 amComment by Shayne — February 21, 2008 @ 2:47 am
for paid trolls they sure are lazy…
February 21st, 2008 at 2:48 amThe campaign did not report the flight with Ms. Iseman [on the Paxson corporate jet, in February 1999]. Mr. McCain’s advisers say he was not required to disclose the flight, but ethics lawyers dispute that.
No Tracy but he was married and a senator while he was traveling with Ms. Iseman, dumbass. Try and keep up. His aides felt there was something going on and two of them quit because they became disenfranchised. Pay attention or get the hell out of here.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:50 amfor paid trolls they sure are lazy…
Comment by joe cantwell — February 21, 2008 @ 2:48 am
And stupid joe, very, very stupid.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:50 amProbably true, but that is similar to the way Gore became one because of his daddy’s political connections.
Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 2:57 am
No it isn’t because Gore wasn’t cheating on his father with Ms. Iseman, jackass.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:58 amWow. Since he’s Republican I’m amazed it wasn’t with another guy. now don’t get me wrong, I have a child who is homosexual. I’m just amazed it isn’t compounded hypocrisy is all. Republicanism is a plague on mankind. Time to end it forever.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:59 amOh and Gore is still married to his first wife as is Bill Clinton Tracy. You asswipes who pay lipservice to family values and go through wives like they’re toilet paper make me want to puke. Families values is more like it.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:00 amKeep carrying that water for this sick bunch of losers Tracey, almost nobody else will. Only somebody as dumb as you will embarrass himself defending these sickos. Just keep rearranging the deck chairs on this Titanic Tracey, you’ll be like the captain going down with the ship.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:02 amComment by Shayne
Hey Shayne, how’s it going. How was work down at the bar & grill tonight?
Did any of the drunks try to take your greazy asz home? Huh Greezer?
∞
February 21st, 2008 at 3:05 amComment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 3:00 am
Uh oh, Tracy, did you notice John Kerry got himself kicked out of here quickly. Guess who’s next? Looks like Tracy2 won’t be back around any time soon, will he, dumbass.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:05 amKeep going you are on a roll!
Comment by Tracy2
With a fat stomach like Shayne’s, that b¡tch could roll uphill. LOL
∞
February 21st, 2008 at 3:08 amYou forgot to take that Midol didn’t you Tracy. You better start taking some anger management classes because you’re not handling this defeat well at all are you. Poor little girl.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:09 amPoor little Tracy, your Mr. P colors are showing. Say bye, bye.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:10 amClinton’s misconduct is not on point. Unlike Lewinski this lady was being paid to influence McCain’s votes on public policy.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:10 amOn the bright side there is precedent for what McCain can do after losing the election. He will be a great spokesperson for Viagra.
Unproven allegations are going to be splashed across America tomorrow morning Tracy, maybe you should go to sleep so you can face the morning, loser.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:11 amComment by Shayne
Calling all farm animals down to the Zoo !!
∞
February 21st, 2008 at 3:11 amYeesh rehbock, McCrazy can’t keep it in his pants as it is. You want him on Viagra, he’ll put his eye out.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:12 amSo St. John wrote a couple of letters in a month to the FCC that are so bad they are deemed inappropriate. They are supportive of Paxson Communications, WQED, and Cornerstone TeleVision. They just happen to be clients of Vicki Iseman.
There must be some compelling reason that an experienced Senator would risk doing that sort of thing.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:14 amHmmm… About that Paxson jet ride Vicki and McBush took together. The one he did not report. Do you think… Nah…not St. John. He is the Straight Shooter guy.
People need to know more about McValues now, before it is too late.And what better timing than now….
I think Republicans are happy that it was a woman this time ,for change.
February 21st, 2008 at 6:25 amWhat a night in mid-Michigan! Perfectly clear skies and a spectacular view of the eclipse. And in the middle of going out to my back yard every ten minutes or so to check, I found the NYT article on-line on McCain and the symbolism seemed apt: McCain’s presidential bid could be eclipsed by the scandal. It’s got sex, money, power–perfect for the media.
February 21st, 2008 at 6:57 amThe story was well known to NYTimes for sometime. McCain and his staff were pressuring the NYtimes not to publish the story,surprisingly the story was published after McCain took the lead in his run for presidency and he is about to get the nomination.
February 21st, 2008 at 7:00 amHad this story by NYTimes been published 2 or 3 months ago…McCain would not have made it to the top, as the front runner. People are entitled to know the truth about this,because it is not just about romantic relationship…it is also about doing FAVORS for lobbyists as a result of this romantic relationship.
It’s politics as usual…the same politics that Americans are tired of.
#179 – “Were are the facts regarding the sexual allegations made by the NY Times?” Comment by Tracy2 — February 21, 2008 @ 1:48 am
They’re using the Pres. Bush method of allegations. Sen. McCain has to PROVE it’s WRONG. We don’t have to prove it’s right. It’s all on Sen. McCain.
See what happens when you allow “your” President to lie, and refuse to hold him accountable? Your own tactics turn around and bite you on the but. Maybe, in future, your party might want to consider taking responsibility for their actions.
February 21st, 2008 at 7:12 amThe MSNBC Morning Joe mouth breathers are falling all over themselves in abject outrage that St.John has been accused of a scandal.This is like Christmas morning.
February 21st, 2008 at 7:16 am#272…Van,
I agree….
MSNBC J.Scarborough of ‘Morning Joe’ was saying that this is not a story.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:02 amBut it is to millions of Americans who are tired of same old politics,the cover ups, the denials,the favortism.etc..etc.
Joe don’t see it this way..he is one of the elite..
Joe’s background as GOP Congressman does not give him neither the strength nor the desire to present the facts of this story.
#273 – “Joe’s background as GOP Congressman does not give him neither the strength nor the desire to present the facts of this story.” Comment by tarazan — February 21, 2008 @ 8:02 am
I agree with the sentiment (Please, check your grammar).
Joe “dead intern” Scarborough still has not addressed the death of his intern, nor the ME’s report that said a woman who runs marathons “mysteriously” had a heart attack with no prior heart issues in any way, shape, or form. The ME also had a history of unethical behavior, but for some reason, the MSM just didn’t care to cover that story.
It seems that, at the time, only Democrats were being investigated, no matter the smelly smell of lies emenating from Scarborough.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:09 amMcWar is toast.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:39 amHow much botox does his wife (#2) use? Jeesh. Boy, she’s scary looking.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:42 amMcCain is a Myth not a Maverick,
Though difficult with such a highly controlled media, it seems the way to call back tempted independents and democratic crossovers would be to repeatedly expose McCain’s supposed strengths, the most important being the myth of his principled character and willingness to put himself at risk to uphold principles. Both of these are media creations.
McCain hasn’t been a maverick since he almost flunked out of the US Naval Academy squeaking by in the bottom 5 of his large class.
Throughout his life he has shown profound weakness of character. He has a pattern of revealing that he knows what the principled, honorable, or ethical position or path to take is, only to do the opposite as his consistently weak character gives way to corruption, calculation and expediency.
After seeing over 130 shipmates burn to death from napalm and high explosives. He said it opened his eyes to the horrific suffering of napalm and that he didn’t think he could any longer bomb the civilian areas of North Viet Nam. But within 3 weeks a few brave North Vietnamese saved his life of the vengeful crowd that had seen the mass murder of hundreds of thousands from his bombs and others. That flip against what he recognized as right is his life-long pattern.
Last year he allowed amendments to his anti-torture bill which reversed the effect of the legislation so as to allow its use, ban any civil suits for its use and thus any ability to expose it, allow torture coerced statements and confessions in kangaroo trials, provide de facto impunity for using torture including allowing the use of reliance on (bogus criminal) legal opinions allowing it as a defense. He said not one word, allowed it to be portrayed as a successful thankless campaign against torture, and did not expose that the bill had become the torturers dream.
His imaginary positive character traits, like GW’s, are media creations. The difference seems to be that McCain often knows what is right before he betrays the principle.
McCain has flipped on almost every issue of substance in order to cynically pander to the worst elements of the political sphere. (This list includes but is not limited to campaign finance, torture, taxes, domestic surveillance, immigration and much more.) On the 3 trillion dollar disaster in mass murder adventurism however his has not wavered. Escalate any war the U.S. is in and wage as many wars against the weak as possible.
A man of principles to which he adheres regardless of consequence, he is not.
A man of honor, he is not.
A rogue bucking the system he is not.
A phony who with the media cultivates his false image is what he remains.
JK
February 21st, 2008 at 8:46 am#274….Democrat Soldier
You have questioned my grammar,something I do not care about that much when I write..once in a while I do goof, just like eveybody else.
You are acting as ‘Mr. perfect’.
If I have to sit down and write people about their grammar’s errors then I’ll spend half of my day correcting people.
Look what you wrote yourself on #271:
” Your tactics turn around and bite you on the but”…
It should be ‘bite you on the ‘butt’…’
February 21st, 2008 at 8:52 am“Had this story by NYTimes been published 2 or 3 months ago…McCain would not have made it to the top, as the front runner.”
Comment by tarazan — February 21, 2008 @ 7:00 am
Spot on. It’s yet *another* reason I am so suspicious of the Times. They sat on this story until McCain secured the nomination; McCain, the only Republican candidate with a chance of winning the general election in November.
Liberal media, my @ss.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:53 amWhat will people see today on television is McCain denying the whole story…that’s a sample of what people will see if McCain becomes the President.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:08 amPress conferences to deny…and never admit any wrongdoing.
Sounds familiar !!
#280…What Obama has to do with this?.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:13 amI will suspect Ultra Conservatives before I suspect Obama..
May be that’s why Huckabee is refusing to quit the race..!!
It’s no wonder his camp is resorting to surrogate smear compaigns already.
Comment by good_golly — February 21, 2008 @ 9:07 am
hey, where’s the Keating 5 stuff, gg? McCain is a thief and a liar, those are facts that you can’t fight. Now he’s aprven adulterer and cheater, what a surprise.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:20 am#280…What Obama has to do with this?.
I will suspect Ultra Conservatives before I suspect Obama..
May be that’s why Huckabee is refusing to quit the race..!!
Comment by tarazan — February 21, 2008 @ 9:13 am
Goon_golly is just flailing around spewing poop, as usual. Notice the troll has fallen back on including Obama’s middle name, just like its heroes Rush and BillO. They’re a desperate bunch of losers.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:22 amThey’re a desperate bunch of losers.
Comment by gummitch — February 21, 2008 @ 9:22 am
I can’t wait until that black man’s face is all over every government building, right in the faces of the treasonous rightards who will have to suffer the indignity of having their racial superior looking down on them.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:27 amNow the wingnuts will be outraged about any attacks on a ‘war hero’.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
February 21st, 2008 at 9:40 amMaybe McBomb is smelling burnt toast…
February 21st, 2008 at 9:41 amI am so disappointed. It looked like TP had finally banned the vile troll JK. But, alas, all they did was to delete his offensive post.
TP, why are you allowing these vile trolls to stink up your site?
February 21st, 2008 at 9:52 am#280 – “The Barak H. Obama camp must be truly desperate to be using its surrogates at the NTT and TP to try to smear a war hero.” Comment by good_golly — February 21, 2008 @ 9:07 am
There’s no “try” about it, and the funny part is that it’s Sen. McCain who’s smearing himself with his own mis-deeds of his past!
If only Sen. McCain had gotten the Bush “cover-up” team to go over his past before he tried for the nomination, then there’d be less substance to the facts that follow him about.
Sen. Kerry is a war hero, but your side had no problems with smearing him. Now that Sen. McCan’s past is smearing his own candidacy, why are you complaining about “war hero” status? Got nothing else to spew?
February 21st, 2008 at 9:54 amgg’s just doing the usual pulling of nonfacts out of her ass. she has nothing, and must make things up in order to have a reason not to commit suicide.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:13 amI can’t wait until that black man’s face is all over every government building, right in the faces of the treasonous rightards who will have to suffer the indignity of having their racial superior looking down on them.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — February 21, 2008 @ 9:27 am
Liberals believe in racial superiority? ;)
February 21st, 2008 at 10:21 amComment by upright left — February 21, 2008 @ 10:21 am
Flagged.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:29 amLiberals believe in racial superiority? ;)
Comment by upright left — February 21, 2008 @ 10:21 am
Actually, the white inferiority is highlighted here, as exemplified by your idiotic comment.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:29 amFolks, get flagging. There are so many off-topic posts in this thread sent by trolls trying to derail the conversation it’s not funny.
In defense of Tracy2, he/she actually sticks to the material of the thread, and initially starts by attacking the article (not that I agree with him/her on the validity of the attacks, I’m waiting for more info to come out before making my decision). Too bad he/she gives into the urge to personally attack..those posts have been flagged.
All the rest of ‘em? Flag away. Especially ‘John Kerry’.
Now, obligatory on-topic:
This will at the minimum reinforce the evangelical’s beliefs that McCain is not their candidate. Trolls, you’ve got it so hard. Democrats are turning out at nearly 2 to 1 ratios over your own people and independents are breaking hard to Obama. At his best, your President only enjoy a 30% support rating, which incidently matches your percentages of Republicans in the general populace. Democrats never were your supporters, and now, you’ve lost the Independents. If newer polls are to be believed, he is now less than 20%, which indicates some of your base is fleeing his support as well! Your candidate has already been tarnished by the 2000 primary, and new dirt will keep coming out on him. And the sad thing is that now that this is out, you can’t even count on the Evangelicals again.
I can see why you’re screaming so loud. If this affects the Bible-Thumpers, you’re sunk. They’re your last, best hope for power. Without them, you’re back to your true base, the 10% of society that controls 90% of the wealth. At least you’ll get more money from your benefactors to stir up crap here.
I think this is the first in a long string of screwups that will plague McCain all the way to November. He’s already running up hill against support for an unpopular war and the second recession in 8 years. Throw in his temper, and you may have your very own Dean moment. Statesman? You don’t have one. You’ve not had one since at least Reagan, maybe even further back than that. Obama looks like he might make a good statesman, especially if he lives up to his comparisons to JFK. And America is SICK and TIRED of the Bush years and everything that brings.
As LP said, the most bitter pill for you to swallow come next year will be looking at a black man (or white woman) and having to acknowledge that he’s now President. Better start looking forward to 2012, because methinks 2008 is out of your reach…
I’ll be back. got to get the Lawn Chair, Popcorn, and catnip tea disguised as a martini….this should be FUN to watch. :-D
February 21st, 2008 at 10:35 am#278 – “You are acting as ‘Mr. perfect’.” Comment by tarazan — February 21, 2008 @ 8:52 am
I have never claimed to be Mr. Perfect. I apologize if you feel that I was being overly critical, but that was not my intent.
Maybe, if we kept our energy to go after the regressives and their indefensible policies and platforms rather than snark other progressives, we’d be better off.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:41 amThis spin on this story is that McCain is SOOO honorable that he doesn’t even perceive that these things might be seen as a conflict of interest. GIVE ME A BREAK? This guy talks, but he never follows up his rhetoric with votes. I can’t tell you how many times I have agreed with his speech from the floor of the Senate only to have him vote against a bill he is arguing in favor us.
Recently, we all got whiplash as he endorsed the practice of waterboarding in a series of Senate votes. McCain is for torture? What? How is that possible? Well, he SAYS he’s against torture. But, when the cards go on the table he VOTES for it. He plays honorable crusader for the media, but votes as just another Republican foot soldier.
Right now McCain is criticizing Obama for not pledging to take public financing for the general election AT THE SAME TIME McCain is trying to pull out of public financing for the primary?! What?! And, McCain can’t pull out of public financing because it looks like he’s broken the rules by taken loans early in his campaign which would be against the rules.
Now we find out that he’s cozying up to lobbyists, possibly having an affair, and giving out legislation as sexual favors. Should any of us say we’re surprised?
February 21st, 2008 at 11:05 am#78 Comment by good_golly — February 21, 2008 @ 9:07 am
#280 Comment by good_golly — February 21, 2008 @ 9:07 am
gg, you sound like you’re in pain.
and you’re repeating yourself.
hurts, don’t it?
February 21st, 2008 at 11:10 amJohn McCain is only as much of a war hero as John Kerry is. Rethugs act like McCain gave himself up as a prisoner to save his fellow troops. Didn’t happen. Karl Rove showed us all that war heroes are to be destroyed. Lucky for McCain Democrats have a conscience, Republicans should take a lesson.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:15 amWell said Shayne. The true meat of this story (to me at least) is the improper intrusion by McCain into something he shouldn’t have put his nose into. It has the stench of bullying.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:19 am#300…Democrat Soldier,
I do accept your apology,and let’s focus on the important issues of the day.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:10 pmActually, the white inferiority is highlighted here, as exemplified by your idiotic comment.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — February 21, 2008 @ 10:29 am
So you actually did mean to indicate in your prior post that you believe in racial superiority. Just making sure there was no misunderstanding since libs generally seem to believe in racial equality. Apparently, you deviate from the norm on this issue. ;)
February 21st, 2008 at 3:50 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — February 21, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Sorry, Arnie. Lefty pat is a lib and he said he believes in racial superiority. ;)
“I can’t wait until that black man’s face is all over every government building, right in the faces of the treasonous rightards who will have to suffer the indignity of having their racial superior looking down on them.”
Comment by Lefty Patriot — February 21, 2008 @ 9:27 am
February 21st, 2008 at 3:54 pm