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	<title>Comments on: Richard Perle Claims We&#8217;ve &#8216;Already Won&#8217; The Iraq War But It&#8217;s Also &#8216;Far From Over&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Wczasy na Kaszubach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wczasy na Kaszubach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said well &quot;the war&quot;, because what they are doing there is &quot;invade&quot; for the oil interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said well &#8220;the war&#8221;, because what they are doing there is &#8220;invade&#8221; for the oil interests.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4278280', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: republicanSScareme</title>
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		<dc:creator>republicanSScareme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope the egg-sucking degenerates like Perle get their justice...criminal justice...when we finally get some honest people in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope the egg-sucking degenerates like Perle get their justice&#8230;criminal justice&#8230;when we finally get some honest people in office.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4275454', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: zuch</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perle:  &quot;Saddam will not be sharing WMD with anyone.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Neither will the Tooth Fairy.  Good job, good thing we invaded, and sorry about those 4000 dead soldiers....

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perle:  &#8220;Saddam will not be sharing WMD with anyone.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Neither will the Tooth Fairy.  Good job, good thing we invaded, and sorry about those 4000 dead soldiers&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274721', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mycatsmarterthanDubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>mycatsmarterthanDubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30:  Or both.  Either way, he is one ugly mo-fo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30:  Or both.  Either way, he is one ugly mo-fo.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274386', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Perle is nothing for than a chickenhawk plan and simple.  This guy helps talk that idiot into war, now he&#039;s distancing himself from it.  This is what you get when you let chickenhawk have a say in US foreign policy.  These guy love to fight wars as long as it&#039;s not their blood being shed.  If you asked Perle, Libermann, and all of the other idiots to put on a uniform, they&#039;d say no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Perle is nothing for than a chickenhawk plan and simple.  This guy helps talk that idiot into war, now he&#8217;s distancing himself from it.  This is what you get when you let chickenhawk have a say in US foreign policy.  These guy love to fight wars as long as it&#8217;s not their blood being shed.  If you asked Perle, Libermann, and all of the other idiots to put on a uniform, they&#8217;d say no.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274315', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: williamf</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. government is spying on innocent average Americans without warrants, peoplel are being kidnapped and flown to torture shops, the Iraq war is bogus and...documented lies were told by Bush et al to get it going, the &quot;supreme&quot; court, using the term loosely, has become a rubber stamp operation for Bush, Bush has been legislating with signing statements, ruling out the need for congress, a special gulag has been set up in Guantanamo Bay to run kangaroo courts, habeus corpus is dead and my grandmother has to take off her shoes at the airport because the government it&#039;s fighting a &quot;war on terror.&quot;  You&#039;ve got your neocon head up your ass Perle.  The terrorists have made us do all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. government is spying on innocent average Americans without warrants, peoplel are being kidnapped and flown to torture shops, the Iraq war is bogus and&#8230;documented lies were told by Bush et al to get it going, the &#8220;supreme&#8221; court, using the term loosely, has become a rubber stamp operation for Bush, Bush has been legislating with signing statements, ruling out the need for congress, a special gulag has been set up in Guantanamo Bay to run kangaroo courts, habeus corpus is dead and my grandmother has to take off her shoes at the airport because the government it&#8217;s fighting a &#8220;war on terror.&#8221;  You&#8217;ve got your neocon head up your ass Perle.  The terrorists have made us do all of this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274272', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Luis M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Missing from this line of thinking, of course, is that Saddam never had any WMD to share.
&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, it should read like this: 

&lt;em&gt;Missing from this line of thinking, of course, is that Saddam &lt;strong&gt;no longer had&lt;/strong&gt; any WMD to share.
&lt;/em&gt;

Saddam did have WMD at one time, but he got rid of them way before the US invasion. Unless they mean that Saddam never wanted to share his WMD when he had them, which is also a strong possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Missing from this line of thinking, of course, is that Saddam never had any WMD to share.<br />
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<p>Actually, it should read like this: </p>
<p><em>Missing from this line of thinking, of course, is that Saddam <strong>no longer had</strong> any WMD to share.<br />
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<p>Saddam did have WMD at one time, but he got rid of them way before the US invasion. Unless they mean that Saddam never wanted to share his WMD when he had them, which is also a strong possibility.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274237', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: williamf</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well TP, my post went away again!  What&#039;s up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well TP, my post went away again!  What&#8217;s up?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274233', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ctcadguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctcadguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This piece of shit is part of the Policy for a New American Century along with Cheney/Bush. They were the architects of 911. They are murders and the world knows this. Americans are just starting to wake up to these facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece of shit is part of the Policy for a New American Century along with Cheney/Bush. They were the architects of 911. They are murders and the world knows this. Americans are just starting to wake up to these facts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274223', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Winski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kool-Aide container must have been refilled....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kool-Aide container must have been refilled&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274101', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SoldierParent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoldierParent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tballou: Ah, the propaganda machine at work! Rather convenient that Afghanistan was chosen to invade instead of any of the numerous other countries worldwide that support terrorism. Why would you just assume that this criminal cabal of neofacists is telling you the truth about ANY of this stuff? Check out the facts. This war is about oil and profit. Don&#039;t kid yourself otherwise. Hence, the oil pipeline that was built through Afghanistan. Obama lovers beware. Dispite his rhetoric, he&#039;s the other side of the same coin. Ron Paul has &quot;them&quot; pegged correctly, although I disagree with a lot of his platform. There really is no viable candidate at this point. Voting has become a choice of the lesser of several evils. Sad statement on American life, but one that&#039;s been around for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tballou: Ah, the propaganda machine at work! Rather convenient that Afghanistan was chosen to invade instead of any of the numerous other countries worldwide that support terrorism. Why would you just assume that this criminal cabal of neofacists is telling you the truth about ANY of this stuff? Check out the facts. This war is about oil and profit. Don&#8217;t kid yourself otherwise. Hence, the oil pipeline that was built through Afghanistan. Obama lovers beware. Dispite his rhetoric, he&#8217;s the other side of the same coin. Ron Paul has &#8220;them&#8221; pegged correctly, although I disagree with a lot of his platform. There really is no viable candidate at this point. Voting has become a choice of the lesser of several evils. Sad statement on American life, but one that&#8217;s been around for a long time.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274084', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kassandrasduplex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kassandrasduplex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another reason why the likes of Perle et al wanted really to totally destroy Iraq. 
http://www.nysun.com/article/30769

The Zilkha family were ejected from Iraq by the Baaths in 59 or 60. Selim went on to be involved in the California &quot;Energy Crisis&quot; as the largest shareholder of El Paso Energy (some of their traders were just convicted of fraud this past month. Totally downplayed by the New York Times with a ONE sentence brief on C2.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another reason why the likes of Perle et al wanted really to totally destroy Iraq.<br />
<a href="http://www.nysun.com/article/30769" rel="nofollow">http://www.nysun.com/article/30769</a></p>
<p>The Zilkha family were ejected from Iraq by the Baaths in 59 or 60. Selim went on to be involved in the California &#8220;Energy Crisis&#8221; as the largest shareholder of El Paso Energy (some of their traders were just convicted of fraud this past month. Totally downplayed by the New York Times with a ONE sentence brief on C2.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274068', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kassandrasduplex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kassandrasduplex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that &quot;Qaeda&quot;! Damn typing in the dark at 5:00 am is a drag...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;Qaeda&#8221;! Damn typing in the dark at 5:00 am is a drag&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274067', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kassandrasduplex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kassandrasduplex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60
Osama bin Laden, as the titular or symbolic leader of the organization known as &quot;Al Waeda&quot; should have been taken out long ago.
Of course, seeing how he and his family have such close ties to the Bush Administration, and seeing as how 9-11 was a gift to the Bush Administration, don&#039;t expect his violent death or apprehension anytime soon.
Looks like he will die a peaceful, natural death as time drags on and the Iraqi civilization dies.
SEE &quot;No End In Sight&quot;. Check out who was behind the decisions in post invasion occupation Iraq that created the absolute devasation there.
If you have time do some research on Selim Zilkha too. And his family history...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60<br />
Osama bin Laden, as the titular or symbolic leader of the organization known as &#8220;Al Waeda&#8221; should have been taken out long ago.<br />
Of course, seeing how he and his family have such close ties to the Bush Administration, and seeing as how 9-11 was a gift to the Bush Administration, don&#8217;t expect his violent death or apprehension anytime soon.<br />
Looks like he will die a peaceful, natural death as time drags on and the Iraqi civilization dies.<br />
SEE &#8220;No End In Sight&#8221;. Check out who was behind the decisions in post invasion occupation Iraq that created the absolute devasation there.<br />
If you have time do some research on Selim Zilkha too. And his family history&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274066', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kassandrasduplex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kassandrasduplex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Rupert Murdoch&#039;s son-in-law Sigmund Freud&#039;s grandson?
Wasn&#039;t the &quot;Father of Modern Propaganda&quot; Sigmund Freud&#039;s nephew?
Edward Bernays,wrote &quot;Propaganda&quot; 1928.Aren&#039;t all these characters Zionists,like Perle?
Modern American propaganda is subtle and discreet, characterized by omission and distortion.
EX: Jack Abramoff bribes at least 13 GOP congressmen but the media give equal time in coverage to ONE Democratic lawmaker possibly guilty of accepting a bribe.
EX: Mitt Romney and Arnold Schwarzenegger push through truly REGRESSIVE draconian HEALTHCARE MANDATES on their respective states (Arnie&#039;s failed to win senate passage) but in the minds of the average citizenry it is Hillary Clinton promoting mandates as her tentative proposal earns disproportionate coverage.
EX: Henry Kissinger calls the Iraq Invasion lost militarily. Three months later Harry Reid echoes that exact statement and the U.S. media, for the most part, omit Kissinger&#039;s statements but give extensive air time for Reid&#039;s.
We will not see a return to progressive taxation while the Zionists control the American media.
And we will see no true progressive, such as Hillary Clinton in the White House either. 
But we will definitely see more Richard Perles living wealthy lives, enriching themselves on the spoils of war and the American Treasury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s son-in-law Sigmund Freud&#8217;s grandson?<br />
Wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;Father of Modern Propaganda&#8221; Sigmund Freud&#8217;s nephew?<br />
Edward Bernays,wrote &#8220;Propaganda&#8221; 1928.Aren&#8217;t all these characters Zionists,like Perle?<br />
Modern American propaganda is subtle and discreet, characterized by omission and distortion.<br />
EX: Jack Abramoff bribes at least 13 GOP congressmen but the media give equal time in coverage to ONE Democratic lawmaker possibly guilty of accepting a bribe.<br />
EX: Mitt Romney and Arnold Schwarzenegger push through truly REGRESSIVE draconian HEALTHCARE MANDATES on their respective states (Arnie&#8217;s failed to win senate passage) but in the minds of the average citizenry it is Hillary Clinton promoting mandates as her tentative proposal earns disproportionate coverage.<br />
EX: Henry Kissinger calls the Iraq Invasion lost militarily. Three months later Harry Reid echoes that exact statement and the U.S. media, for the most part, omit Kissinger&#8217;s statements but give extensive air time for Reid&#8217;s.<br />
We will not see a return to progressive taxation while the Zionists control the American media.<br />
And we will see no true progressive, such as Hillary Clinton in the White House either.<br />
But we will definitely see more Richard Perles living wealthy lives, enriching themselves on the spoils of war and the American Treasury.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274065', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Helen Rainier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Rainier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#58 -- and I would remind you that the FBI does not have sufficient evidence to determine Osama bin Laden was involved with 9-11. Check out the FBI Most Wanted Terrorist webpage -- he is not charged with 9-11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#58 &#8212; and I would remind you that the FBI does not have sufficient evidence to determine Osama bin Laden was involved with 9-11. Check out the FBI Most Wanted Terrorist webpage &#8212; he is not charged with 9-11.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274063', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kassandrasduplex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kassandrasduplex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who control the media control our nation. 
Check out Google News Homepage and look for the Voice of America news articles they regularly post.
For those of you who don&#039;t know, VOA is the OFFICIAL propaganda arm of the U.S. government, now being directed at American citizens via Google.
Google is the parent company of You Tube. Do a brief search of You Tube videos of Hillary Clinton and then Barack Obama, and a cursory count of which has the most negative videos. Clinton wins hands down. 
Oddly, enough, across the board, throughout the U.S. corporate media Clinton has been given by far the most negative coverage. (This is NOT because she &quot;deserves&quot; it for any real or perceived reason.)
Check out who the board of Governors are of VOA network.
Ultra Right Zionist James Glassman is one of them. Another is Condoleeza Rice.
Now ask yourself, Why is You Tube dishing Clinton such negative coverage?
Propaganda works best when you don&#039;t realize its working.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who control the media control our nation.<br />
Check out Google News Homepage and look for the Voice of America news articles they regularly post.<br />
For those of you who don&#8217;t know, VOA is the OFFICIAL propaganda arm of the U.S. government, now being directed at American citizens via Google.<br />
Google is the parent company of You Tube. Do a brief search of You Tube videos of Hillary Clinton and then Barack Obama, and a cursory count of which has the most negative videos. Clinton wins hands down.<br />
Oddly, enough, across the board, throughout the U.S. corporate media Clinton has been given by far the most negative coverage. (This is NOT because she &#8220;deserves&#8221; it for any real or perceived reason.)<br />
Check out who the board of Governors are of VOA network.<br />
Ultra Right Zionist James Glassman is one of them. Another is Condoleeza Rice.<br />
Now ask yourself, Why is You Tube dishing Clinton such negative coverage?<br />
Propaganda works best when you don&#8217;t realize its working.<br />
<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&amp;contrassID=2&amp;subContrassID=14&amp;sbSubContrassID=0&amp;listSrc=Y</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274061', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tballou</title>
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		<dc:creator>tballou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Merlin and SoldierParent - Please recall that Osama bin Laden was hosted and supported by the Taliban leaders of Afganistan.  The government of Afganistan helped bin Laden, and bin Laden was clearly the mastermind behind 911.  Sure he had help from a bunch of Saudi nationals, but this attack was conceived and carried out by a terrorist organization under the auspices of the Afgan government.

We were completely justified in attacking Afganistan and removing the Taliban goverment.  Given their well known track record of supporting real live terrorists, if the Taliban or any other similar group take power there, we have every right to monitor them closely and if they are demonstrably planning other attacks, we have every right and obligation to stop them.  That is not preemption given their past actions, that is self defense.

This is all contrasted completely with Iraq, who did not attack us, was not planning to attack us, and could not attack us.

Either way though, occupation of either country is totally unsustainable and a ridiculous waste of lives and money.  Occupations do not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Merlin and SoldierParent &#8211; Please recall that Osama bin Laden was hosted and supported by the Taliban leaders of Afganistan.  The government of Afganistan helped bin Laden, and bin Laden was clearly the mastermind behind 911.  Sure he had help from a bunch of Saudi nationals, but this attack was conceived and carried out by a terrorist organization under the auspices of the Afgan government.</p>
<p>We were completely justified in attacking Afganistan and removing the Taliban goverment.  Given their well known track record of supporting real live terrorists, if the Taliban or any other similar group take power there, we have every right to monitor them closely and if they are demonstrably planning other attacks, we have every right and obligation to stop them.  That is not preemption given their past actions, that is self defense.</p>
<p>This is all contrasted completely with Iraq, who did not attack us, was not planning to attack us, and could not attack us.</p>
<p>Either way though, occupation of either country is totally unsustainable and a ridiculous waste of lives and money.  Occupations do not work.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274060', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: give me conveniance or give me death</title>
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		<dc:creator>give me conveniance or give me death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perle has the blood of thousands of innocent Iraqis on his filthy hands. He is repulsive. My only solace is watching George Galloway verbally rape the swine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9TmYjfTBk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perle has the blood of thousands of innocent Iraqis on his filthy hands. He is repulsive. My only solace is watching George Galloway verbally rape the swine.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9TmYjfTBk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9TmYjfTBk</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4274052', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

What Perle meant to say was:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;MISSION ACCOMPLISHED...

.

.

A L M O S T!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

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<p>What Perle meant to say was:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;MISSION ACCOMPLISHED&#8230;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>A L M O S T!&#8221;</i></p>
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