A new Fox News poll asks Americans which presidential candidate they believe is the favorite of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. Not surprisingly, the poll concludes that the terrorists prefer Democrats:
Who is Usama Rooting For?
Who does Usama bin Laden want to be the next president? More people think the terrorist leader wants Obama to win (30 percent) than think he wants Clinton (22 percent) or McCain (10 percent). Another 18 percent says it doesn’t matter to bin Laden and 20 percent are unsure
Usama always struck me as more of a Ron Paul kinda guy, but if the Fox News audience voted Barack, it must be true.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 amOsama died a long time ago. He’s learning the lesson that there’s consequences to one’s actions. If he’s regained his equilibrium he’s hoping peace prevails. If he hasn’t begun to wake up then he hungers for violence as much as he did when he lived in the flesh.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 amWhen we begin thinking about what other people want, then we know we’ve become tools.
Comment by satirev — February 22, 2008 @ 10:01 am
It’s not about deserting our back yards or thinking about what other people want. If anything, we as a nation should do a lot more thinking about what the rest of the world wants and needs. It’d certainly improve our foreign policy.
This poll has nothing to do with that. It’s all an excuse to put Osama and Obama in the same headline. That’s it.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:05 amThe term Fux poll was the clue to total dementia…..Who give’s a flying fig about their poll’s or the dead guy…..Gee’s……Happy Friday camper’s, just another day in bull shit bush bizarro world….Blessings
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:09 amWhatever.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:11 amI don’t understand this result. Osama clearly wants the Republicans to win because they will never go after him. He is far more useful as a terrorist boogeyman to scare the bejeebus out of the electorate.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 amThe real answer is any GOP candidate of any stripe because the GOP has done more to antagonize the world and build terrorism than any American regime to date. GOP: Good for Osama Party.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 amI believe Fox News is scared to ask the real question. The important question. “Who do the American people want to win?” Who are the American people rooting for? We’ll find out soon.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:14 am“Another 18 percent says it doesn’t matter to bin Laden”
– - 18% of Fox News viewers aren’t flatlining.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 amWhat a stupid poll. It serves no purpose but to give GOPers something to click on. It’s not accurate, relevent, or useful.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 am“… More people think the terrorist leader wants…”
“… More foxbots think the terrorist leader wants…”
there… that’s more like it…
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 amI’d assume that, unless Usama himself took part in the poll, then 100% are “unsure.” It’s not the sort of thing you know, you just take part in it to be a partisan douche bag, no matter if your nozzle drains on the right or the left.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 amdid they spell it Usama on the poll site?
wouldn’t that defeat their purpose of confusing the bots?
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:18 amUsoma… Obama… there IS a difference now…
How freaking sophomoric. There really is no bar low enough under which Fox News won’t slither. I go to sleep dreaming that V pays Rupert Murdoch a visit with a rose and a new delicious way of disembowelment. [Depending on the latest right wing BS one can replace Murdoch and insert the following: Rush, Coulter, O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Grace, and on and on].
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 amIn all fairness to Fox, conservatives, being terrorists themselves, would have a better understanding of how Osama’s brian works than most normal people would.
I can only imagine that Osama would want the democrats to win the election, because then there would be an increased focus upon him, whereas if McCain is elected, Osama will continue to be ignored.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 amJust more propaganda from Pravda…what losers..
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 amIf Osama is rooting for the Dems, that just proves he’s not only evil but ungrateful as well. Bush was the best thing that ever happened to Al Qaeda.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 amPathetic they still do this nonsense.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 amdid they spell it Usama on the poll site?
wouldn’t that defeat their purpose of confusing the bots?
Usoma… Obama… there IS a difference now…
Comment by katy — February 22, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Well, it was a telephone poll, but it’s spelled “Usama” on the data sheet. I tend to use “Usama” because it’s spelled with a short vowel in Arabic and “O” in the American English context tends to be the double vowel “aw.”
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 amYa gotta hand to the Faux Snoozers… they’re not gonna go quietly.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:28 amAre they referring to the terrorist leader who still isn’t caught yet? You know the one who they let conveniently slip away at the end of the movie so there could be a sequel?
Interesting how it’s relevant which candidate Osama supposedly wants in office but when we bring up the fact that he said 9-11 was payback for American troops being on Saudi soil and for American meddling in Arab affairs, well that’s practically treason.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 amStupid idea, stupid poll, stupid network.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 amThe Bin Ladens prefer Republicans because they will fly them out of the country when needed.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 amInteresting how it’s relevant which candidate Osama supposedly wants in office but when we bring up the fact that he said 9-11 was payback for American troops being on Saudi soil and for American meddling in Arab affairs, well that’s practically treason.
Comment by lefty — February 22, 2008 @ 10:29 am
It sets off Independent Thought alarms all over the country. Dangerous stuff, that colored chalk!
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:35 amOsama bin Laden has no doubt been thrilled with Dubya so far — not only has Bush all but abandoned the search for him, but he has instituted policies that have been giving OBL wet dreams. He is destroying the U.S. military by stretching it to the breaking point. He is working his butt off to make sure Americans live in fear. He has been eroding the U.S. Constitution, amendment by amendment. And Bush has managed to galvanize a good portion of the rest of the world against him and against the United States.
Osama bin Laden’s observations of all this are probably a lot like those of the aliens in the classic Twilight Zone episode “The Monsters are Due on Maple Street” (for those of you who aren’t TZ buffs, you can read the plot here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street)
So who would Osama pick as his favorite? I predict it would be the one most likely to carry on Dubya’s work. He is probably praying hard for McCain to win.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:35 amDivisive practices like this destroyed the Republican party and will destroy FOX.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 amI urge all reading to take a look at the poll. There are some nuggets.
They skew questions about votes for or against when asking about the Democratic candidates but not the Republican ones.
They show that more republicans (only 900 people surveyed) would jump ship and vote for Obama if he were the Democratic candidate.
GWB is liked less than Bill Clinton on their polling.
The OBL question is pathetic. OBL had made it known how he wanted to bring us down and Bush has been allowing him to do it.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:46 amIt can’t happen fast enough for me, Guido.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:48 amSo, Fox News thinks their viewers have some great insight into the opinion of Osama bin Laden?! Interesting.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:52 amWho really cares what Usama wants – But…. while I don’t believe that Osama would go away if he were ignored, I do believe that every warrior and / or terrorist needs an opponent – the GOPers make better opponents in one sense because they are ‘all terrorism all the time’, so to speak. Why do you think they (Bush, Cheney, Rummy, etc) let him slip through the lines – if they had caught Ohsama they would have had no bogeyman to scare the other gopers with.
Uhsama’s stature increases amongst his fellow ‘dead-enders’ every time Bush mentions him or Islamic terrorism. bin Laden knows what would happen if a coordinated, intelligent effort to 1) win the hearts and minds of moderate (read: nearly all other) Muslims 2) a smarter more focused military campaign in Afghanistan and 3) a real effort at peace in the Middle East would do to him and his twisted cause.
Ergo: he wants a GOP candidate to win
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:55 amIn all fairness to Fox, conservatives, being terrorists themselves, would have a better understanding of how Osama’s brian works than most normal people would.
Comment by dim wit — February 22, 2008 @ 10:21 am
That would be true, DW, if conservatives had a normally developed sense of empathy. But one of the hallmarks of a conservative mindset is an inability to consider what other people are thinking and experiencing.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:57 amYes, if I was interested in learning what Muslim fundamentalists thought, the first people I’d interview would be FoxNews’ audience. Yup. Keen insight and a thorough understanding of Islamic culture.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 amComment by missmolly — February 22, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Absolutely, missmolly. The actions Bush has taken as president may as well have been taken from bin Laden’s wish list.
If we’re taking this ridiculous poll question seriously, it’s hard to see how bin Laden would prefer any candidate over the third Bush term that McCain offers.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 amYes, if I was interested in learning what Muslim fundamentalists thought, the first people I’d interview would be FoxNews’ audience. Yup. Keen insight and a thorough understanding of Islamic culture.
Comment by gummitch — February 22, 2008 @ 11:00 am
They watch 24 and read Michelle Malkin – what else do they need to know?
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:03 amGigi doesn’t realize that the ratio of Democrats to Republicans she notes is actually representative of the nation as a whole at this point and thus is not at all “skewed”.
She assumes that “most” polling is “skewed” with no evidence to back up this assertion, as a means of explaining the “Diebold effect”.
Well done, Gigi… considering what you’re working with, I mean.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:03 amInteresting how it’s relevant which candidate Osama supposedly wants in office but when we bring up the fact that he said 9-11 was payback for American troops being on Saudi soil and for American meddling in Arab affairs, well that’s practically treason.
Comment by lefty — February 22, 2008 @ 10:29 am
Also interesting is how Osama’s, “What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?” lines up with the beliefs of a number of posters here.
“Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people, who hold sway in their political parties, and fund their election campaigns with their gifts. Behind them stand the Jews, who control your policies, media and economy.”
“That which you are singled out for in the history of mankind, is that you have used your force to destroy mankind more than any other nation in history; not to defend principles and values, but to hasten to secure your interests and profits.”
“The freedom and democracy that you call to is for yourselves and for white race only; as for the rest of the world, you impose upon them your monstrous, destructive policies and Governments, which you call the ‘American friends’. Yet you prevent them from establishing democracies.”
There are more similarities, of course. Seems both libs and conservatives share some of Osama’s views. ;)
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 amFox: Stupid Questions for Stupid F***ers
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:21 amWhy is this relevant? Who cares?
Comment by satirev
Republicans.
They are so ruled by fear, that al Qaeda now determines their voting preferences. They are mere tools of Usama bin Laden. Since he is obviously much more intelligent than your average Republican, he can easily use reverse psychology to control these cowardly knuckleheads.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 amThere are more similarities, of course. Seems both libs and conservatives share some of Osama’s views. ;)
Comment by upright left — February 22, 2008 @ 11:18 am
He’s also a flat-tax supporter. Is he a possible libertarian candidate?
And it’s true that UBL has some beliefs in common with liberals and progressives. I agree with many things he’s said in his fatwas, and I disagree with a lot of them as well.
What I and most liberals I know absolutely disagree with is the tactics of his organization. We believe that social change, no matter how righteous the cause, cannot be accomplished through violence.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 amuptight left could just as easily, and as relevantly, make the point that so many of Adolph Hitler’s values expressed in Mein Kampf lined up neatly with those expressed by so many right-wing trolls.
Interesting…
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 amThanks for the post upright left. This is the enemy and he knows us so much better than we know him.
As for good golly, you just don’t get it. the same poll that says GWB is the least liked out of several names his dad is the most liked so it’s not as simplistic as you would like to believe.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 amYou are right that the polling is skewed… 43% were Democrats.
Comment by good_golly
I’ll say it was skewed. Obviously, they somehow found every Democrat in the country who watches Fox News!
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 amOsama wouldn’t be rooting for anyone, he would be dead or jailed if Dinkledork kept his promise of getting him “dead or alive.”
Why is Osama still on the loose?
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:31 amReally?
I thought he was Osama Been Dead for years now.
But Fox uses it’s Hotline with direct-dial to our sworn enemy just to get a sound-bite?
My God, people are so stupidly gullible.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:32 amComment by toasterhead — February 22, 2008 @ 11:23 am
Very impressive. You are only the second lib I have ever seen acknowledge on these threads that libs share any of Osama’s views. Most, when such similarities are pointed out, respond like Ralph with lists of how conservatives agree with Osama or the Nazis. They then resort to every kind of dodge they can think of to avoid admitting that both major parties share a number of views with Osama and are on thin ice when pointing it out about others.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 amEver wonder why Usama bin Laden always releases a tape in October of even numbered years?
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:36 amOnly Fox would come up with something this ridiculous. Enough said.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:40 amOBL’s beliefs can also be lined up with the extreme far right with religious views being the source for all governing.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:44 amMost, when such similarities are pointed out, respond like Ralph with lists of how conservatives agree with Osama or the Nazis.
Comment by upright left — February 22, 2008 @ 11:34 am
Point being, Brainiac, that philosophies can share values with those of corrupt figures without sharing their aims and tactics.
toasterhead was wise enough to realize that sarcasm would be lost on you and that a straightforward response would be the way to go. When I read toasterhead’s reply, I instantly recognized the value in it, and the inadequacy of my own.
Sometimes I forget that trolls need to spoon-fed. And even then, most of it ends up on the floor or on their bib.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 amThis is pretty much what I expect from a “news network” that got its start with shows like “Cops”, “Hard Copy” and “A Current Affair”
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:54 amComment by ralph the wonder llama — February 22, 2008 @ 11:45 am
You sure went the long way around to acknowledge that you dodged the admission. ;)
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 amI don’t care much where Laden and I may agree – I want him behind bars, and the Cheerleader Prince can’t/won’t put him there to save his overprivileged ass.
As human beings, we will all have significant overlaps in points of view. Those who think otherwise are seriously deceiving themselves.
There is nothing to be gained from a discussion of whose drapes match OBL’s. It’s a silly discussion that can only advance through wild, baseless speculation – as such, we might as well talk about whether unicorns prefer oats to barley.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:56 amwe might as well talk about whether unicorns prefer oats to barley.
Comment by tombaker
I’m pretty sure they live of the tears of orphans.
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:57 am57 -no – that’s Republicans. Unicorns stick to the whole grains.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:00 pmI don’t care much where Laden and I may agree – I want him behind bars, and the Cheerleader Prince can’t/won’t put him there to save his overprivileged ass.
As human beings, we will all have significant overlaps in points of view. Those who think otherwise are seriously deceiving themselves.
There is nothing to be gained from a discussion of whose drapes match OBL’s. It’s a silly discussion that can only advance through wild, baseless speculation – as such, we might as well talk about whether unicorns prefer oats to barley.
Comment by tombaker — February 22, 2008 @ 11:56 am
Correct. And a day long thread full of comments about how conservatives agree with Osama is even more useless. If it’s going to be discussed, the discussion should at least be honest.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:02 pmOh, Christ, not again with the emoticons…
don’t you have homework to do?
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:02 pmAnd a day long thread full of comments about how conservatives agree with Osama is even more useless. If it’s going to be discussed, the discussion should at least be honest.
Comment by upright left — February 22, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Says the troll who accused TPers of the “useless” charge in the first place…
no emoticon this time?
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pmFox started it with their stupid question to viewers. Just like a ranting street-kook, their question should be walked on past, not picked up and played with like the diseased carcass of a pigeon.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:05 pmSays the troll who accused TPers of the “useless†charge in the first place…
no emoticon this time?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 22, 2008 @ 12:03 pm
C’mon bud, keep up. “Useless” was simply in agreement with Tom’s description of it as a “silly discussion.” Are you going to attack Tom for that? Or do you just look for reasons to attack those with whom you disgree in order to avoid the issue? The emoticon is useful in posts addressed to those who’ve proven that expecting serious, honest posts from them is foolish. ;)
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:12 pmUhm, if Fox can poll Osama, YA THINK THEY MIGHT BRING HIM IN?
HA! What an amazingly stupid “poll” and only amazingly stupid people would consider this type of tripe something worthy of turning on.
Oh, right…goopers. Nevermind.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 pmEasy UL – my take on the “story” doesn’t mean that I approve your self-appointed partisan “fairness” committee-of-one, either. I’m not down with fallacious moral equivalency arguments intended to make D’s look “just as bad as” R’s.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 pmAh yes, obviously Usama Bin Laden prefers higher taxes. It all makes sense now. He’s not a Jihadist, he’s actually a neo-liberal! Are they never any more less obvious smear campaigns?
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February 22nd, 2008 at 12:15 pmFox started it with their stupid question to viewers. Just like a ranting street-kook, their question should be walked on past, not picked up and played with like the diseased carcass of a pigeon.
Comment by tombaker — February 22, 2008 @ 12:05 pm
Absolutely. The thread then began, as have others, to become a littany of posts about conservative agreement with Osama as opposed to posts saying that it is a useless discussion.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:16 pmEasy UL – my take on the “story†doesn’t mean that I approve your self-appointed partisan “fairness†committee-of-one, either. I’m not down with fallacious moral equivalency arguments intended to make D’s look “just as bad as†R’s.
Comment by tombaker — February 22, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
I make no assumptions about your beliefs. I commented only on your agreement that people of both parties hold views that Osama happens to share and that this is a foolish discussion.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmIt really reflects primarily on Fox “News”, not anyone or anything else. Clearly Fox is trolling the bottom of the barrel trying to retain their viewer base, and using provocatively false lines of reasoning to do so.
And yes, it’s hard to argue that many Fundamentalist Righties here in the US don’t have views remarkably similar to the views of Muslim Fundamentalists – certainly more in common between those 2 groups than the American Lefty community and the Jihadis. Not that there’s anything to be gained from that, either – it’s just true.
Seems to me, UL, that, were I in your shoes, I’d have assumed after reading the headline that the discussion was going to be silly, and just stayed away from the thread altogether.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:25 pmAh yes, obviously Usama Bin Laden prefers higher taxes. It all makes sense now. He’s not a Jihadist, he’s actually a neo-liberal! Are they never any more less obvious smear campaigns?
Comment by robertoroberto — February 22, 2008 @ 12:15 pm
Actually, neo-liberalism favors lower taxes and less government spending.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:30 pmAnd yes, it’s hard to argue that many Fundamentalist Righties here in the US don’t have views remarkably similar to the views of Muslim Fundamentalists – certainly more in common between those 2 groups than the American Lefty community and the Jihadis. Not that there’s anything to be gained from that, either – it’s just true.
Seems to me, UL, that, were I in your shoes, I’d have assumed after reading the headline that the discussion was going to be silly, and just stayed away from the thread altogether.
Comment by tombaker — February 22, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
I disagree that conservatives have many more beliefs in common with Muslims fundamentalists than libs. But, that’s not the point. As for staying away from the thread, it only becomes a discussion if someone posts a rebuttal to all the posts claiming conservatives mirror Osama’s view. Then, instead of being a fruitless discussion, it’s a thread filled with lies that have gone unchallenged. Fruitlessness or untruth, which is worse?
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:33 pmAs usual, Fox is more interested in the needs/wants of “terrrrrrists” than the desires of the American public.
Face it, wingnuts every motive is based on the precepts of “terror”, just like the terrorists they are!
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:38 pmSomeone’s bad Karma is rearing it’s ugly head:
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February 22nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmIf Usama was still alive he would probably be “rooting” for Faux news.
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 pmThey share his goal of dividing humanity into opposing camps.
I can’t really think of anything more useless than a poll of Fox News viewers.
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm.
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February 22nd, 2008 at 4:20 pmWhy ask Americans what Usama thinks? Why not just go down to the White House basement and ask him.
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:23 pmWhat is it with those rightwingers – from Bush on down, they want this country to be run according to the wishes of Osama bin Laden. Congress has been admonished by the president to ignore the wishes of American people and heed only al Qaeda. And now, FOX “news” is afraid to offend the “terrorists”. What a bunch of wimps.
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pmthis is beyond ridiculous but not surprising from fox – how about they ask people who they think would be more likely to catch him?
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