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	<title>Comments on: Matalin On Global Warming: &#8216;A Largely Unscientific Hoax,&#8217; A &#8216;Political Concoction&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: batteries</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/23/matalin-gw-fake/comment-page-4/#comment-5284120</link>
		<dc:creator>batteries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, your JOB if you understand SCIENCE is to question the SCIENCE! Government MONEY is PURE RESEARCH MONEY for the most part - IDIOT! As for MOTIVATION, that’s what PEER REVIEW is set up to handle, and why REPUBLICAN ‘SCIENTISTS’ for the MOST PART refuse to PARTICIPATE IN IT! Because they’re being CORRUPT POLITICIANS and NOT &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/asus/a3000.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;asus a3000 battery&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/asus/z91.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;asus z91 battery&lt;/a&gt; SCIENTISTS! And what are you being, and IDIOT, a CONCERN TROLL, or a REPUBLICAN PRETENDING to be something other than the IDIOT HACK that you CLEARLY ARE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, your JOB if you understand SCIENCE is to question the SCIENCE! Government MONEY is PURE RESEARCH MONEY for the most part &#8211; IDIOT! As for MOTIVATION, that’s what PEER REVIEW is set up to handle, and why REPUBLICAN ‘SCIENTISTS’ for the MOST PART refuse to PARTICIPATE IN IT! Because they’re being CORRUPT POLITICIANS and NOT <a href="http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/asus/a3000.htm" rel="nofollow">asus a3000 battery</a>,<a href="http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/asus/z91.htm" rel="nofollow">asus z91 battery</a> SCIENTISTS! And what are you being, and IDIOT, a CONCERN TROLL, or a REPUBLICAN PRETENDING to be something other than the IDIOT HACK that you CLEARLY ARE?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5284120', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hardlyhikin</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardlyhikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Matalin and her ilk ever ask themselves: &quot;What if I&#039;m wrong?&quot; What are they going to say when Indian Ocean islands start submerging or New York starts flooding? Of course, the response will be that it&#039;s just a natural phenomenon and nothing caused by man. that&#039;s just a cop out so industry and the U.S.A. won&#039;t have to accept responsibility for 150 years of polluting the earth.
Not that that would matter one way or the other - the problem will still need to be dealt with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Matalin and her ilk ever ask themselves: &#8220;What if I&#8217;m wrong?&#8221; What are they going to say when Indian Ocean islands start submerging or New York starts flooding? Of course, the response will be that it&#8217;s just a natural phenomenon and nothing caused by man. that&#8217;s just a cop out so industry and the U.S.A. won&#8217;t have to accept responsibility for 150 years of polluting the earth.<br />
Not that that would matter one way or the other &#8211; the problem will still need to be dealt with<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279141', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dictatortot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/23/matalin-gw-fake/comment-page-4/#comment-4278026</link>
		<dc:creator>dictatortot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two of the biggest global warming conspirators:

General Electric and British Petroleum. Those left wing anti-corporate bastards.

http://newsprism.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of the biggest global warming conspirators:</p>
<p>General Electric and British Petroleum. Those left wing anti-corporate bastards.</p>
<p><a href="http://newsprism.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://newsprism.wordpress.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4278026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BlackbirdHighway</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/23/matalin-gw-fake/comment-page-4/#comment-4277511</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackbirdHighway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vinnie, 

&lt;strong&gt;from the AMS website:&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;The team of research scientists created a peer-reviewed website, http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/, which tracks multiple changes in the Arctic environment. Compared to the 1980s, the region lost almost 40 percent of the summertime sea ice in the central Arctic in 2007. While the continued loss of summertime sea ice is the most dramatic example, changes are also seen in the atmosphere, on land, in the ocean, and in location and abundance of Arctic species.&quot;

&quot;September 2007 was Eighth Warmest on Record for Contiguous United States&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;From the FAQ page:&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Do I have to have a degree in meteorology to become a member of the AMS?

A: No, anyone can become an Associate Member of the AMS and enjoy the benefits of membership, such as special pricing for books and journals. To become a full voting member you will need to fulfill certain educational and experience criteria.

&#039;If you are seeking full membership and do not have a degree in meteorology, you will want to review the &quot;Interpretive Memorandum&quot; for information on specific membership requirements.
 

Q: Do I have to have a degree in meteorology to call myself a meteorologist?

A: Technically, no, because there is no legal definition of this term. The AMS provides a guideline on the use of this term, however, that it hopes will be followed by all in the field. &quot;What is a Meteorologist? A Professional Guideline (1990).&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Corporate Patrons:&lt;/strong&gt;
Northrupt Grumman
Lockheed Martin
ITT
Ratheon
SAIC

&lt;strong&gt;
Summary:&lt;/strong&gt; The AMS has some scientists, but is mostly non-scientists, who are corporate supported, and therfore can be expected to give a corporate view of the issue, and even then they acknowledge global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vinnie, </p>
<p><strong>from the AMS website:</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;The team of research scientists created a peer-reviewed website, <a href="http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/" rel="nofollow">http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/</a>, which tracks multiple changes in the Arctic environment. Compared to the 1980s, the region lost almost 40 percent of the summertime sea ice in the central Arctic in 2007. While the continued loss of summertime sea ice is the most dramatic example, changes are also seen in the atmosphere, on land, in the ocean, and in location and abundance of Arctic species.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;September 2007 was Eighth Warmest on Record for Contiguous United States&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>From the FAQ page:</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Do I have to have a degree in meteorology to become a member of the AMS?</p>
<p>A: No, anyone can become an Associate Member of the AMS and enjoy the benefits of membership, such as special pricing for books and journals. To become a full voting member you will need to fulfill certain educational and experience criteria.</p>
<p>&#8216;If you are seeking full membership and do not have a degree in meteorology, you will want to review the &#8220;Interpretive Memorandum&#8221; for information on specific membership requirements.</p>
<p>Q: Do I have to have a degree in meteorology to call myself a meteorologist?</p>
<p>A: Technically, no, because there is no legal definition of this term. The AMS provides a guideline on the use of this term, however, that it hopes will be followed by all in the field. &#8220;What is a Meteorologist? A Professional Guideline (1990).&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Corporate Patrons:</strong><br />
Northrupt Grumman<br />
Lockheed Martin<br />
ITT<br />
Ratheon<br />
SAIC</p>
<p><strong><br />
Summary:</strong> The AMS has some scientists, but is mostly non-scientists, who are corporate supported, and therfore can be expected to give a corporate view of the issue, and even then they acknowledge global warming.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277511', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upright left</title>
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		<dc:creator>upright left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatâ€™s the SCIENTIFIC BASIS for your OPINION? Because SO FAR all we get from you TARDS are OPINION but NO SCIENCE, so CLEARLY only YOU are are the LIAR - DOWNRIGHT MORON. ;)

Comment by republicans hate facts â€” February 24, 2008 @ 1:26 am

It&#039;s in your little rant above, bud.  You know all those scientists that you worship?  Had you read what they&#039;ve published, you&#039;d know that they are taking recent data and making estimates and predictions.  Perhaps you are unaware that estimates and predictions have been known to incorrect.  It&#039;s foolish to think that man has had no effect on the earth.  It&#039;s also foolish to jump on the latest fad and blindly spend billions of dollars and force the whole world to sign treaties based upon such predictions.  Restraint doesn&#039;t appear to be your strong suit, though.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatâ€™s the SCIENTIFIC BASIS for your OPINION? Because SO FAR all we get from you TARDS are OPINION but NO SCIENCE, so CLEARLY only YOU are are the LIAR &#8211; DOWNRIGHT MORON. ;)</p>
<p>Comment by republicans hate facts â€” February 24, 2008 @ 1:26 am</p>
<p>It&#8217;s in your little rant above, bud.  You know all those scientists that you worship?  Had you read what they&#8217;ve published, you&#8217;d know that they are taking recent data and making estimates and predictions.  Perhaps you are unaware that estimates and predictions have been known to incorrect.  It&#8217;s foolish to think that man has had no effect on the earth.  It&#8217;s also foolish to jump on the latest fad and blindly spend billions of dollars and force the whole world to sign treaties based upon such predictions.  Restraint doesn&#8217;t appear to be your strong suit, though.  ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277508', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everytime I hear mention of a comment by Tom DeLay I wonder, first, why ANYONE would give fiddlers damn what that raving a**hole thinks and, second, what is happening with the Abramoff investigation and the money laundering charges.  Does anyone know?

Last I heard Abramoff was singing like a canary.  Two of DeLay&#039;s Congressional staff have already been convicted as I recall.  How is it that they haven&#039;t nailed roach killer himself??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everytime I hear mention of a comment by Tom DeLay I wonder, first, why ANYONE would give fiddlers damn what that raving a**hole thinks and, second, what is happening with the Abramoff investigation and the money laundering charges.  Does anyone know?</p>
<p>Last I heard Abramoff was singing like a canary.  Two of DeLay&#8217;s Congressional staff have already been convicted as I recall.  How is it that they haven&#8217;t nailed roach killer himself??<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277504', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: fletc3her</title>
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		<dc:creator>fletc3her</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s a hoax, like the dinosoaurs!  Right, Huckabee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a hoax, like the dinosoaurs!  Right, Huckabee?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277500', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirty Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Political Concoction&quot;

Takes one to know one, Mary.

BTW, you are a hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Political Concoction&#8221;</p>
<p>Takes one to know one, Mary.</p>
<p>BTW, you are a hoax.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277498', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: helenahandbasket</title>
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		<dc:creator>helenahandbasket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The little children of the right wing, plugging their ears, while shouting &quot;I can&#039;t hear you, I can&#039;t hear you.&quot;  Problem is; Momma Nature hears you loud and clear, and she&#039;s pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The little children of the right wing, plugging their ears, while shouting &#8220;I can&#8217;t hear you, I can&#8217;t hear you.&#8221;  Problem is; Momma Nature hears you loud and clear, and she&#8217;s pissed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277483', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two days ago I was hit by a piece of sky as it fell to the earth.  I think it was a sign that the rapture is at hand.

** roll eyes **</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two days ago I was hit by a piece of sky as it fell to the earth.  I think it was a sign that the rapture is at hand.</p>
<p>** roll eyes **<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kuvasz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kuvasz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 04:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you don&#039;t compromise with such idiots. they should be destroyed.

you might as well decide that 1 plus 1 equaling 2 is subject to debate as to debate the mouthings of that lying little whore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you don&#8217;t compromise with such idiots. they should be destroyed.</p>
<p>you might as well decide that 1 plus 1 equaling 2 is subject to debate as to debate the mouthings of that lying little whore.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277391', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>she thinks it&#039;s all a hoax? - well i can kind of understand how a 2 time college dropout and one-time aspiring nail technician may greet science with some degree of scepticism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she thinks it&#8217;s all a hoax? &#8211; well i can kind of understand how a 2 time college dropout and one-time aspiring nail technician may greet science with some degree of scepticism<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277352', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ditch Mitch KY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ditch Mitch KY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI   The polar ice caps are melting -- in record time -- no matter what 99 Balloons has to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI   The polar ice caps are melting &#8212; in record time &#8212; no matter what 99 Balloons has to say.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277329', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 99Luf Balloons</title>
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		<dc:creator>99Luf Balloons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigassed backedup said:
&quot;99 balloons, I really donâ€™t think you are representative of most of the people here, but I do think those here should call you on the verbal abuse. Makes the whole place look less than it could be.&quot;

Hey Fu(kwad I could give two shits what you think. You are the enemy, remember. 

&quot;Makes the the whole place looks less than it could be&quot;
Keep your crappy posts off our lawn and things would be wonderfully spankingly clean.

Please leach, gutter and pick up after your troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigassed backedup said:<br />
&#8220;99 balloons, I really donâ€™t think you are representative of most of the people here, but I do think those here should call you on the verbal abuse. Makes the whole place look less than it could be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey Fu(kwad I could give two shits what you think. You are the enemy, remember. </p>
<p>&#8220;Makes the the whole place looks less than it could be&#8221;<br />
Keep your crappy posts off our lawn and things would be wonderfully spankingly clean.</p>
<p>Please leach, gutter and pick up after your troll.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277320', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by xraymike â€” February 23, 2008 @ 8:14 pm&lt;/em&gt;

The last significant snowfall we had in our area of the country (northeast TN) was about 13 years ago, when we had about an 8 inch snowfall.

Prior to that we had a couple of blizzards between 1985 and 1995 that gave us about 16 inches or so. 

Other than that, the last time we had an old fashioned winter was every year...&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;EVERY YEAR&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;...from 1983 back to when I can remember, which was about 1972.  When I was in elementary school and high school in the 70&#039;s and early 80&#039;s, we were out at least 10 days a year for snowfall.  Sometimes we&#039;d be out for a full week at a time.  I easily recall having to go to school for half a day on Saturdays to make up the missed time.  It&#039;s been over 30 years since the county schools have had to do that.

1983 was the first time in 8 years that we got out of school before the first week of June.

My daughter is 7 years old.  Since her birth, after the three snowfalls we&#039;ve had during that time, we&#039;ve barely...BARELY...had enough snow to build a snowman.  Nowadays, 2 inches of snow is considered a &quot;significant&quot; snowfall.  

We now enjoy 50 degree weather for weeks at a time, each month since November.  The forecast for the first part of this week shows 50 degrees for tomorrow, 59 for Monday, 54 for Tuesday, and 36 (with snow) for Wednesday.  During the &quot;real&quot; winters we used to have, we&#039;d be lucky to climb into the 40s on any given day.  Our temperatures now are generally the same as a few hours north, in the mountains of southwest VA, and sometimes the areas there are actually warmer.  Normally they would be about 5 degrees or so cooler.  

Thanksgiving weekend in 2005 I helped my father- and brother-in-law top a maple tree in their yard.  The limbs were showing signs of new buds getting ready to pop out, with one new leaf actually emerging from one of the limbs at the top of the tree.

And summer?  This past summer we had over 30 straight days of 90+ degree weather.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the climate is changing.  So you can take your post and cram it, for all I care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment by xraymike â€” February 23, 2008 @ 8:14 pm</em></p>
<p>The last significant snowfall we had in our area of the country (northeast TN) was about 13 years ago, when we had about an 8 inch snowfall.</p>
<p>Prior to that we had a couple of blizzards between 1985 and 1995 that gave us about 16 inches or so. </p>
<p>Other than that, the last time we had an old fashioned winter was every year&#8230;<em><strong>EVERY YEAR</strong></em>&#8230;from 1983 back to when I can remember, which was about 1972.  When I was in elementary school and high school in the 70&#8217;s and early 80&#8217;s, we were out at least 10 days a year for snowfall.  Sometimes we&#8217;d be out for a full week at a time.  I easily recall having to go to school for half a day on Saturdays to make up the missed time.  It&#8217;s been over 30 years since the county schools have had to do that.</p>
<p>1983 was the first time in 8 years that we got out of school before the first week of June.</p>
<p>My daughter is 7 years old.  Since her birth, after the three snowfalls we&#8217;ve had during that time, we&#8217;ve barely&#8230;BARELY&#8230;had enough snow to build a snowman.  Nowadays, 2 inches of snow is considered a &#8220;significant&#8221; snowfall.  </p>
<p>We now enjoy 50 degree weather for weeks at a time, each month since November.  The forecast for the first part of this week shows 50 degrees for tomorrow, 59 for Monday, 54 for Tuesday, and 36 (with snow) for Wednesday.  During the &#8220;real&#8221; winters we used to have, we&#8217;d be lucky to climb into the 40s on any given day.  Our temperatures now are generally the same as a few hours north, in the mountains of southwest VA, and sometimes the areas there are actually warmer.  Normally they would be about 5 degrees or so cooler.  </p>
<p>Thanksgiving weekend in 2005 I helped my father- and brother-in-law top a maple tree in their yard.  The limbs were showing signs of new buds getting ready to pop out, with one new leaf actually emerging from one of the limbs at the top of the tree.</p>
<p>And summer?  This past summer we had over 30 straight days of 90+ degree weather.</p>
<p>Sorry to burst your bubble, but the climate is changing.  So you can take your post and cram it, for all I care.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277312', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: williamf</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is no science, how has she decided this?  What is her rationale for saying there is no science??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is no science, how has she decided this?  What is her rationale for saying there is no science??<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277291', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backup,

You came to a progressive site spewing standard right-wing talking points on climate change.  And then you complain that we&#039;re not treating you kindly.  What do you expect?   Do you think we&#039;ll welcome you with flowers?   I guess we could be like the conservative web sites (i.e. RedState.com) and simply NOT allow a dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backup,</p>
<p>You came to a progressive site spewing standard right-wing talking points on climate change.  And then you complain that we&#8217;re not treating you kindly.  What do you expect?   Do you think we&#8217;ll welcome you with flowers?   I guess we could be like the conservative web sites (i.e. RedState.com) and simply NOT allow a dialogue.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277288', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, no one could possibly believe that people have an effect on the environment and we need to take steps to limit pollution without also believing that disaster is imminent and we must immediately institute carbon taxes. Anyone claiming such belief is lying and is the enemy. ;)

Comment by upright left â€” February 23, 2008 @ 7:33 pm

Here are some quotes from backup:

&quot;Some suggest that manâ€™s emissions are insignificant when compared to natures.&quot;

&quot;I would question government funded scientists motivations no more or no less than I would question the motivations of anyone else.&quot;

And most everything from post 137.

Sorry, in my opinion, someone spewing this type of crap IS indeed the enemy, no matter how friendly he sounds!!  I remember some of the vitriol that he entered here as Captain Mantastic.  I&#039;m just calling it like it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, no one could possibly believe that people have an effect on the environment and we need to take steps to limit pollution without also believing that disaster is imminent and we must immediately institute carbon taxes. Anyone claiming such belief is lying and is the enemy. ;)</p>
<p>Comment by upright left â€” February 23, 2008 @ 7:33 pm</p>
<p>Here are some quotes from backup:</p>
<p>&#8220;Some suggest that manâ€™s emissions are insignificant when compared to natures.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I would question government funded scientists motivations no more or no less than I would question the motivations of anyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>And most everything from post 137.</p>
<p>Sorry, in my opinion, someone spewing this type of crap IS indeed the enemy, no matter how friendly he sounds!!  I remember some of the vitriol that he entered here as Captain Mantastic.  I&#8217;m just calling it like it is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277287', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>99 ballons.  If I didn&#039;t know better, I would think you are a conservative plant here to make progressives look radical.  Take another look at your posts.

What&#039;s sad is that none of the &#039;progressives&#039; here will call you on it.  Maybe thinkprogress should re-evaluate whose really hijacking the threads.

Have a great night.  toasterhead, nice work.  You&#039;re reasonable and I can honestly say I&#039;ve change some of my views about climate change based on what you had to say. 

99 balloons, I really don&#039;t think you are representative of most of the people here, but I do think those here should call you on the verbal abuse.  Makes the whole place look less than it could be.

Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99 ballons.  If I didn&#8217;t know better, I would think you are a conservative plant here to make progressives look radical.  Take another look at your posts.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s sad is that none of the &#8216;progressives&#8217; here will call you on it.  Maybe thinkprogress should re-evaluate whose really hijacking the threads.</p>
<p>Have a great night.  toasterhead, nice work.  You&#8217;re reasonable and I can honestly say I&#8217;ve change some of my views about climate change based on what you had to say. </p>
<p>99 balloons, I really don&#8217;t think you are representative of most of the people here, but I do think those here should call you on the verbal abuse.  Makes the whole place look less than it could be.</p>
<p>Take care.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277285', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the late 1970&#039;s TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) started building a nuclear power plant near our town.  It was of course situated next to a river from which the cooling water would be pumped into the reactor.  One of the environmental concerns was that some of the water that was a few degrees warmer than that in the river would be pumped back into the river and would kill some of the aquatic life.

Imagine...all it took was just a few degrees difference in temperature. 

Now, look at that from a global perspective.

I don&#039;t care who you are; you cannot tell me that man is not having an effect on the environment.  For the past 100 years we have been warming up the atmosphere from power plants and automobiles, just to name two sources.  Prior to that, this planet had a natural balance.  Sure, there were warming and cooling periods, but it was all natural.  But since mankind decided to open a can of industrial whoop-ass on the planet, we have been artificially affecting the balance.  

We live in a closed environment, people.  There&#039;s not an escape hatch that opens into space every couple of years that purges all the sh*t we&#039;ve been putting into the air.  

And to Mr. Backup, if you are piloting jets that produce contrails, you are indeed affecting the environment.  I&#039;m sure you realize that those contrails are evolving into clouds after a few hours.  I&#039;ve read some opinions that say that at this point in time their effect on the climate and the environment is insignificant, but nevertheless we are creating artificial clouds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the late 1970&#8217;s TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) started building a nuclear power plant near our town.  It was of course situated next to a river from which the cooling water would be pumped into the reactor.  One of the environmental concerns was that some of the water that was a few degrees warmer than that in the river would be pumped back into the river and would kill some of the aquatic life.</p>
<p>Imagine&#8230;all it took was just a few degrees difference in temperature. </p>
<p>Now, look at that from a global perspective.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care who you are; you cannot tell me that man is not having an effect on the environment.  For the past 100 years we have been warming up the atmosphere from power plants and automobiles, just to name two sources.  Prior to that, this planet had a natural balance.  Sure, there were warming and cooling periods, but it was all natural.  But since mankind decided to open a can of industrial whoop-ass on the planet, we have been artificially affecting the balance.  </p>
<p>We live in a closed environment, people.  There&#8217;s not an escape hatch that opens into space every couple of years that purges all the sh*t we&#8217;ve been putting into the air.  </p>
<p>And to Mr. Backup, if you are piloting jets that produce contrails, you are indeed affecting the environment.  I&#8217;m sure you realize that those contrails are evolving into clouds after a few hours.  I&#8217;ve read some opinions that say that at this point in time their effect on the climate and the environment is insignificant, but nevertheless we are creating artificial clouds.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4277282', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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