Anti-War Coalition Launches ‘Iraq/Recession’ Campaign, Tying Cost Of War To The Economy
Anti-War Coalition Launches ‘Iraq/Recession’ Campaign, Tying Cost Of War To The Economy
Today, a coalition of progressive groups — including MoveOn, the Center for American Progress Action Fund , US Action, SEIU, VoteVets, and Americans United for Change — announced a new “Iraq/Recession” campaign, a $15 million nationwide effort to end the war and refocus our priorities here at home. The campaign will raise awareness of the domestic costs that have been neglected due to Bush and John McCain’s singular focus on Iraq.
John and Elizabeth Edwards joined in a conference call this morning to announce the campaign. “If the economy is your No. 1 issue when you’re voting, the war is also your No. 1 issue because there is a connection between the two,” Elizabeth Edwards said. Listen to John and Elizabeth’s remarks:
VoteVets unveiled a new ad today as part of the campaign, questioning McCain’s desire to stay in Iraq for a thousand years. In the ad, Rose Forrest — an Iraq war veteran — asks: “How about a thousand years of affordable health care? Or a thousand years of keeping America safe? Can we afford that for my child, Senator McCain? Or have you already promised to spend trillions of our dollars… in Baghdad?” Watch it:
A new poll of swing voters commissioned by US Action found that a huge majority — 69 percent of them — support ending the war and reinvesting in health care and new clean energy jobs. A recent AP poll found that 68 percent of Americans believe pulling our troops out of Iraq would help a great deal or somewhat in addressing our faltering economy.
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February 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pmI can tell you where to stick your finger GiGi.
Here’s a finger for you GiGi, if you look real close at your monitor you will see which finger it is.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pmStick your finger in the air and follow the polls. That’s bold.
Comment by good_golly — February 25, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
It’s a world of hurt when the Democrats OWN the big issues, isn’t it, GG?
This is smart politics, and the Democrats should push hard on it. This is the strategy to destroy the Republican party.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:36 pmStick your finger in the air and follow the polls. That’s bold.
Comment by good_golly — February 25, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
I’m glad you’re enjoying your insulation from the world’s turmoil, because we’ll be sending you the bill in about a year. The “Pay nothing for 6 years!” period is coming to a close.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:36 pmEven the trolls have to admit that the financial drain from this illegal, unwarranted, immoral war in Iraq has strained our resources to the fullext extent and it will be a long time before we can recover. If McCain should win the presidency (shudder) we won’t see recovery in my lifetime — it will be permanent war, permanent recession.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:36 pmStick your finger in the air and follow the polls. That’s bold.
Comment by goon_golly — February 25, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
You’d like it better if you simply told people what to think, right? None of this “majority rules” crap.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:38 pmStick your finger in the air and follow the polls. That’s bold.
Comment by good_golly — February 25, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
yes, instead, ignore the American people, and lose your power for decades. The republican plan: always lose.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pmThat’s the Republican point, though, isn’t it? Keep the war profiteers happy, keep the rich happy with their stock performance in defense companies — ignore the poor, recruit the middle class as cannon fodder because they can’t find work at home, and can’t afford higher education, and deplete the treasury so that all programs for the old, the sick, the children, the poor are bled out of existence, leaving only the wealthy warmongering class at the top and the rest of us under their feet.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pmComment by gummitch — February 25, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
Why majority rules?
How about:
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS!!!!
FREE MARKETS!!!!!!!!!!!
NON-LIBRUL MEDIAS!!!
February 25th, 2008 at 5:41 pmThom Hartman investigated the trolls on his message board and found they were tied to an organization that actually paid them 10 cents a post.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:44 pmTying Cost Of War To The Economy is a no brainer.
I feel with an Obama administration, because of his mind set, true intent, intellect and willing to converse the peace process will begin.
If you listen carefully, you can hear Righties’ panties bunching all across our great land.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:46 pmTsk, what the colossal burn rate of $2.5bn per week could do, invested in US infrastructure. Fix NOLA, bridges that don’t collapse, tornado sirens in every town……jeez, a no brainer.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:47 pmWhat’s not to understand, even by the dimmest.
Keep the OCCUPATION (WAR) going for another 1000 years so our soldiers can come home to a Veterans Administration that is in as poor shape as our health care for civilians.Our economy , our public education ,our civil liberties have all been shattered because of BUSHCO and his crime family.
May God bless our soldiers and bring them home safe and sound and soon.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pmseeing the majority of americans vote for bush let alone twice doesn’t surprise me one bit that they don’t see oil=recession in turn puts the economy at its worst.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:53 pm#1 - WTF is wrong with following the will of the American People? For one, I am sick and fecking tired of being entirely disregarded by my elected officials. I want representation now and to hell with “leadership”!
February 25th, 2008 at 5:53 pmBe very afraid republicans: Universal healthcare is one day closer, and you are all one day closer to exploding in your pants.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pmI now sign out for the day. Have a good one everybody.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:55 pmBumper sticker seen recently:
When Bush took office gas was $1.46
February 25th, 2008 at 5:55 pmActually, gas stayed pretty low until we attacked Iraq. ‘Nuf said.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm#15 the majority of Americans did not vote for the murderous giggling idiot….. the powers that be made it appear so.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:58 pmPlease read this excerpt and the rest of the speech by Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961, on the Military Industrial Complex.
…”We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”
February 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm..’Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
#21 & #15 ,please read Robert Kennedy jr`s piece on how the republicans stole the Ohio election.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmgood_golly: In actuality, the polls indicate the pulse of america, this we know. For Bush to overtly say (in seriousness) that he never looks at polls is actually saying that he doesn’t give a flying rat’s a$$ about what the people think. You know…(wink, wink) those “people” like us who pay this piss-poor public servant’s salary??!! Yes, those people!
You seem to outdo yourself in terms of idiocy with each new post. I’d seriously give consideration to getting a psychiatric workup sometime soon because it’s clear to us that you’re not firing on all cylinders.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmMary: And with two “oil tycoons” sitting in the WH one would think (operative word here “think”) that would mean something. Not with these jokers.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmchristopherwiwi: Yes, indeed. Now we need a congressional investigation into the activities of the Ohio SOS named Kenneth Blackwell who sits at the core of this corruption. He was, coincidentally, the Bush/Cheney ‘04 Chair for Ohio which is a total conflict of interest.
Then we can really get the goods on why Kerry was leading in Ohio when they ostensibly “went down” for a few hours - then resurfaced with Bush winning. We know that the RNC had the election results in Ohio, with Blackwell’s help, running through a server in the basement of a bank building in Tennessee. This much is known fact.
Congress should have opened this investigation IMMEDIATELY following the voting irregularities and problems in Ohio. At this point in time, 90% of americans ABSOLUTELY KNOW that George Bush stole both elections -in 2000 with the criminal help of his own brother and Katherine Harris of the over-augmented fame. This now is fact as well.
There will come a day and time when this will be brought to justice and Bush’s legacy will actually become this: George W. Bush, The criminal Who Stole the Presidency - And turned out to be THE Worst president EVER in the history of the country.
When anything is built on a corrupt foundation, guess what? It eventually falls apart. Case in point: Bush’s Presiduncy.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pm#21
youre right the vote was suppressed, manipulated and down right stolen. my bad.
i will say that the split was not wide. but the mere fact that amount of folks that supported this guy during his first and beginning of second does not surprise me that folks do not get interaction between oil and recession.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pmTCPView
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February 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pmThe only areas where investing billions makes good fiscal sense are in education and regulation. The failure to regulate the housing and mortgage industries and the financial sector has led to this crisis; and the ignorance of so many Americans is responsible for the failure to see through the Frat Boy from Hell and his pet penguin. We’re trillions in debt–this is no time to be expanding an already unweildy government.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pmhttp://newsprism.wordpress.com
#22
investing in our military complex is a big part of the nwo. to be ‘imperial’ you must be able to conquer the entire world and we are becoming and have been becoming an imperialistic, military state. all americans should be outraged and nervous about the players (our leaders) and what they stand for.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pmfollow up 29
Also when you shut down thinkprogress ,,,its the only site that leaves 4 connection in your System process on ports 3021 -22 -23-24
February 25th, 2008 at 6:15 pm#28 What if we had attacked Florida instead of Iraq? They were the ones harboring terrorists. Leaving Iraq is not surrendering any more than a cop that breaks in to the wrong house is surrenduring when they apologize and leave.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:16 pmAs a Canadian with a Bush wanna-be for a leader, I find that democracy is in the NA continent is on its way down.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pmYou have a tyrant for a leader. We have a tyrant-wanna-be here.
Freedom is falling by the wayside in the name of protection from terrorists.
Truth is being ignored because of terrorism.
Terrorism is the excuse for every law being broken on both sides of the border.
My message to Bush and Harper: FCK, the only missing thing is U.
What would the effect to the economy be if we surrendered the Global War on Terror and suffered another 9/11 type attack (or worse) from terrorists that would be emboldened by our cowardly retreat? Pretty devastating.
Comment by good_golly — February 25, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
bullshit. we survived Bush’s First Failure just fine. Only by following up with illegal wiretaps and invasions has our economy been hurt. You’re such an idiot. And a coward. Blowing up innocent families is a sure way to guarantee another 9/11. Moron.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:18 pmThom Hartman investigated the trolls on his message board and found they were tied to an organization that actually paid them 10 cents a post.
Tying Cost Of War To The Economy is a no brainer.
I feel with an Obama administration, because of his mind set, true intent, intellect and willing to converse the peace process will begin.
Comment by had enough — February 25, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
I’d be very interested if you could provide a link to this information. Thanks.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pmgg has earned about $3.50 today, so far. Overpaid.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pmDon’t forget the link between Global Warring and Global Warming, as Dennis Kucinich reminds us.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pmgood_golly, in addressing # 28, and your premise that we will suffer another 9/11 if we “retreat”. I submit that the Right are the defeatists.
What has our response been to 9/11: a miserable slogan of fear, “Global War on Terror”?
Our president strayed the course from Afghanistan and the Pakistani border in routing out Al Queda, by launching an attack on false pretense in Iraq; the greatest single blunder of international diplomacy in our nation’s history. He squandered international goodwill that was pouring into the United States from all corners of the world. Today, he has isolated us and talks only with those who are not stated enemies. That is not leadership.
Words from the right like “retreat” are defeatist words, and are the words used when the Right has no plan for America’s future.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:24 pm…there at least 15-20 connections between
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Comment by Bush Cover Ups — February 25, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
between _____ what? In English please. Who? What? Where?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pmsurrendered the Global War on Terror …
I’ll get the USS Missouri right up, and you go get Usama Bin Laden.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:29 pmComment by RUCerious — February 25, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
February 25th, 2008 at 6:32 pmLOL!
Muslims are not the cause of terror.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pmUnfaltering support of the Zionists is.
The Koran is against occupational forces.
Palestein has been occupied for over 40 years.
Radicals on all sides are lying about the truth.
If Israel would only go back to the 1967 borders that were agreed upon most of these issues would disappear.
Don’t hold your breath!
You know, goony, you are a real boor. And a bore. And a boar.
Why don’t you go Cheney yourself, sweetheart?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:44 pm“surrendered the Global War on Terror”
kind of like retreated from the field of battle in the Great War on Drugs, or threw down our arms and beg for mercy in the War on Poverty (or was it Hunger)?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:49 pm40 , Thinkprogress is the only website I know that is leaving ports to your compuetr when you leave the webpage
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February 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pm#13 OleHippieChick: Not to mention all the jobs those worthy projects would create and how they would stimulate the economy.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:52 pmThe SS McCrazy is sinking fast. He’s an imbecile when it comes to economics, he’s said so himself and it’s painfully evident when he attempts to even engage in a cursory discussion of economic theories and the realities of our economic policy.
Once this coalition of brilliant minds puts the facts together, it will be clear to the american people that, once again, Herr Bush, just lied to them last week when he said: The Iraq War has nothing to do with our (failing) economy. But we already knew that this moron never did have the first clue about simple math or economic theory. Case in point: He tanked every business he’s ever owned.
Does anyone recall Rummy’s comment just prior to leaving office regarding the “lost iraq money”?? WTF ever happened to that money of ours?
Now we find that Herr Bush is paying the army of AlSadr 1.2 million per week for a cease fire simply in order to preserve his legacy and the veracity of the infamous “surge” (surge in bull$hit is about the size of it!). Now AS is saying that unless we ante up the fake cease fire will not hold. Isn’t this blackmail, folks?
Bush is getting blackmailed by Al Sadr and paying him OUR hard earned dollars while our war debt escalates and our national debt will not be paid in three lifetimes. This is not only criminally insane; it’s a total coup on our democracy. It’s time to impeach regardless of what it does to this coming election.
Impeachment is the only way to rid ourselves of this american pariah who is intent on destroying our country before he exits stage right to his oasis in Paraguay. Press your representatives for impeachment immediately. This country MUST do the right thing and at least the act of impeachment will show to the international community that we, the people, repudiate the actions of this president.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:56 pmUnfaltering support of the Zionists is
Comment by kimmy — February 25, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
thank you for someone else screaming what i have been for years. this is every bit of israel. they are the biggest criminals out there and we allowed them into our politics and how is america looking now. we fight their wars while they create them and because the american folks sat back they are accomplishing their mission.
February 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pmUnable to defeat the Sunni insurgency, the U.S. “superpower” has had to resort to paying tens of millions of dollars to insurgent leaders to bribe them not to attack U.S. troops. In addition, Bush is supplying the insurgents with weapons “to fight al-Qaeda.” The Sunni leaders gladly accept the money and weapons, but how long can they survive being collaborators with the American enemy that has destroyed their country and the Sunni place in the sun?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pm#50 AIPAC, AEI - great read is “The Israel Lobby” by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt. It’s a tell all and you are absolutely right.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:00 pm…..let me not get accused of labeling all of israel so the jewish folks don’t get it wrong, its the zionists
February 25th, 2008 at 7:01 pmThinkprogress read and do 40 and explain ????
February 25th, 2008 at 7:02 pm#28 good golly: Enough with the stupid “Global War on Terror” bullshit! There were no known terrorists or terrorist entities in Iraq before we invaded them. The only reason we went to Iraq was to satisfy the twisted, cockamamie, convoluted ideology of the PNAC. Do some actual research instead of getting your information from Rush Limbaugh’s rectal database.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:02 pmBush Cover Ups - Thanks for the excerpt! Precisely what I was saying and probably one of the reasons why John Edwards et al will be disclosing where our money is really going in Iraq.
I think Edwards would make the best AG we’ve ever had. I hope that Obama picks him up for the post when he’s elected.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:02 pmsorry 47 I mean…..dont worry its safe
February 25th, 2008 at 7:02 pmPeople can come up with statistics to support anything. 78% of people know that.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pmMr. Evil: Superlative b*tch slapping of our village idiot troll! The war on terra is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on american soil.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:03 pmsatirev
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=12348
Bush calls on france for HELP
February 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pm……..these folks have control of our monetary banking system, media, our government. they are out to control the money which brings power and they will go about it nazi style. lets not forget the over 90% of israel are ashkenazi jews……don’t over look the nazi in ashkenazi…….which our europeans who have migrated to israel.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pm# 53
wrote it down!!
February 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm“Ahmadinejad got it correct, Israel is a bacteria!”
Comment by Abdul Hassan
Piss off, “Abdul.”
And crawl back under your bed, Mr.P.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:23 pmIsrael was created with a parcel of land partitioned by the Mandate of Palestine in 1947 to provide a home for Jewish people. In 1948 Israel declared their independence. Took more land in the Arab-Israeli war and have been a thorn in Arab’s sides since. When several countries under the auspices of the UN graciously create a home for you don’t you think you should at least be good and gracious recipient of such a favor and be good neighbors to the Arab community? Instead, they just want more. Israel even spies on the US and when we catch them we do nothing. How quickly they forget. If Israel would stop stealing Arab land and treating Palestinians like shit then we wouldn’t have most of the strife in the middle east we have now. You were treated like shit by Hitler and we sympathized. How does that give you the right to treat Palestinians like shit?
February 25th, 2008 at 7:34 pm70 - Israels plan it to capture south lebanon also
February 25th, 2008 at 7:40 pmWhere’s the US money gone. One place you can find 43 Million given in a Contract to Doss Aviation as Judge Mark Fuller is part owner. Yes on the day Judge Fuller found former Governor Siegelman guilty for a crime he didn’t commit the kick back was paid. Now let’s look at new Attorney General Michael Muskasy who is getting his kick backs from the businesses he has interest with. Then we have Wilkes who got 43 million in contracts, had a prostitution businesses then he was found guilty. Why you say because his contact was in jail and couldn’t help him yes that person was Duke Cunningham. Now Jerry Lewis is linked to corrupt deals from California to New Jersey. Lott and Hastert got out before the indictments came in. The Bush Administration put Judges and Lawyers in place to make sure crime pays as each got their pay offs. Now the rest of the GOP just went wild and on a crime wave that became uncontrollable.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pm“Also look above many posters agree with me! You are a Zionist supporter.”
Comment by Abdul Hassan
Mr. P, this gets old after a while.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:44 pmapparently, Righty doesn’t want the connection between their military fantasies and the economy to be discussed much, hence the crazy attention from the craziest trolls….
February 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pm“How does that give you the right to treat Palestinians like shit?”
Comment by Mr. Evil
Do I really have to explain that a government’s policies don’t exactly mirror a nation’s beliefs? Look in the mirror, and tell yourself that all the dastardly things done in your name really doesn’t make you a bad person. Mixing up a country’s policies with their beliefs is the true sign of a narrow mind.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pm# 70……..In 1917 Chaim Weizmann was successful in gaining the Balfour Declaration from the British. This declaration endorsed a Jewish Homeland in Palestine and became the basis of the Mandate the League of Nations gave to Britain.
these folks were on a mission to take this land regardless
February 25th, 2008 at 7:52 pm“also address the other posters that agree.”
Did you once stop to think that they might be playing your game, P?
Except that they’re better at it, since you were fooled. But you didn’t fool me with this lame crap. Not for a second.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pm#74 barfly: I give most people here at TP the benefit of the doubt that they understand what I mean when I post. When I say “they” in the context of the statement I made earlier I believe most people here understand that I mean their government. The same goes when I may say “us” meaning the United States. We don’t need it explained to us like you do.
Tell us one thing though, is it pronounced bar fly, or is it barf lee, or is it barf lie. Never mind, any way you say it it still comes off as a nuisance.
February 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pmYou have an obssesion with this Mr. P. I am not him. Gte over it. The other posters are Progressives who detest the Zionists. Yet you don’t address them. Are anti-Muslim? Is that why you’re targetting me?
Comment by Abdul Hassan — February 25, 2008 @ 8:10 pm
Well, the troll Mr. P feigned to be a muslim to inflame threads and spewed racist comments.
You act in a very similar way, but if you’re genunine, simply chat a bit with toasterhead in arab, he knows the language and can discern if you’re a troll or not.
If you’re a legitimate muslim with legitimate opinions, we would be happy to accept your posts, if they’re honest.
February 25th, 2008 at 8:46 pmYou act in a very similar way, but if you’re genunine, simply chat a bit with toasterhead in arab, he knows the language and can discern if you’re a troll or not.
If you’re a legitimate muslim with legitimate opinions, we would be happy to accept your posts, if they’re honest.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 25, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
You are sounding like Soutern Man yourself. Shame on you.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:48 pmFebruary 25th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
From the Times (of London):
February 23, 2008
The three trillion dollar war
The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts have grown to staggering proportions
by Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol/ comment/ columnists/ guest_contributors/ article3419840.ece
February 26th, 2008 at 12:23 amYou act in a very similar way, but if you’re genunine, simply chat a bit with toasterhead in arab, he knows the language and can discern if you’re a troll or not.
If you’re a legitimate muslim with legitimate opinions, we would be happy to accept your posts, if they’re honest.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 25, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
He ain’t legitimate. Abdul Hassan is not a real Arabic name. In fact, “Abdul” is not a real name at all. It’s an abbreviation of the “servant of…” construction ‘Abd + al + (one of the 99 names of God) commonly found in Arabic names.
‘Abd Allah is a real name, and it literally means “Servant of God.” ‘Abd al-Aziz is a real name, literally meaning “Servant of the Almighty.” ‘Abd ar-Rahman and ‘Abd ar-Rahim are real names (Servant of the All-Beneficent, Servant of the All-Merciful). ‘Abd al-Hassan is not, since “al-Hassan” is not one of the 99 names of God.
Now, it’s possible that someone named ‘Abd al-Aziz al-Hassan might abbreviate their name ‘Abd al-Hassan, but I doubt it.
Also - no legitimate Muslim would be calling for the elimination of Jews and Christians. They only do that in the LGF stereotype.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:41 amKudos to this campaign. It’s heartening to see all the different groups working together.
I fully support there efforts.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:53 amYou act in a very similar way, but if you’re genunine, simply chat a bit with toasterhead in arab, he knows the language and can discern if you’re a troll or not.
If you’re a legitimate muslim with legitimate opinions, we would be happy to accept your posts, if they’re honest.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 25, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
You are sounding like Soutern Man yourself. Shame on you.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — February 25, 2008 @ 10:48 pm
He, I’m not Southern Man, but OK, I accept the reprimand. I don’t like to act paternalistically, but this guy’s posts look a lot as some posts that typed Mr. P some time ago, almost word by word. I really haven’t a problem with muslims posting anywhere, but this “Abdul Hassan” doesn’t look a lot credible. My goal wasn’t offend anyone, but trolls.
February 26th, 2008 at 1:36 pm