Bush: America will ‘thank God’ for Iraq in 50 years.
By on Feb 26th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Bush: America will ‘thank God’ for Iraq in 50 years.
Speaking before the Republican Governors Association yesterday, President Bush took a moment to predict the future, claiming Americans will ultimately be thankful for his foreign policy decisions:
I believe 50 years from now, people will look back at this period of time, and say, thank God the United States of America did not lose its faith in the transformative power of liberty to bring the peace we want for our children and our grandchildren.
The notion of the public thanking the almighty for Iraq is becoming increasingly popular with Bush cronies. Karl Rove said last week, “I think that people will look back at the Iraq war and say ‘Thank God, he [Bush] had the courage to do what he did.’”
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which god?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:22 pmI think we’ll be thanking God that it only lasted 7 years before we returned to sanity.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pmCrom, the gloomy Cimmerian god, is pissed bigtime that a pissant like Bush would dare assume that America would thank him.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:24 pmBush continued, “And you’ll all be sorry when I’m dead from Lima Bean poisoning.”
February 26th, 2008 at 4:24 pmtransformative power of liberty ???
With warrantless wiretapping? Right.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:24 pmDear Dumbya,
I will thank God on January 21, 2009.
Sincerely,
Sane America
February 26th, 2008 at 4:24 pmI believe in 50 years we will have stopped laughing at SMU for taking in your sorry ass.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:25 pmAnd the scariest part is that the Bush really believes that. A person so deranged would also see wisdom in bombing Iran. In 50 years we will praise him.
I say let’s not wait the 50 years and braise him now.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:27 pmCan you believe that he still doesn’t realize he was separated from reality at birth?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmHowTF does HE know? We’ll all be dead.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmI believe in 50 years we will have stopped laughing at SMU for taking in your sorry ass.
Comment by hellinabucket — February 26, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
Not likely ……….
February 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmHe’s talking about the coming Democratic tidal wave in November, right? The one that will reaffirm America’s belief in liberty and reject the darkness and secrecy of the Bush Administration? That liberty? I’d thank god for that now- I don’t need to wait 50 years…
February 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmhellina, I believe that in 50 years teenagers in Texas will be rocketboarding by SMU hurling flaming bags of feces at the Bush crapatorium.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmHe’s probably right. The former residents of Florida will need somewhere to move when the icecaps melt, and they will be quite thankful that we still have a troop presence in Iraq.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:29 pmHe’s definitely off the wagon.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:29 pmMCMetal, you are probably right.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:29 pmHe’s definitely off the wagon.
Comment by Zooey — February 26, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
The wagon should be made to turn around and run him over then ……
February 26th, 2008 at 4:30 pmYou mean that made up Invisible Magical Faerie in the Sky God or the Giant Pizza God?
They will be wondering why in the world did we not impeach this liar and imprison him for his war crimes is more like it.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
February 26th, 2008 at 4:31 pmSo now it’s 50 years we have to wait for results on Iraq. That’s the lamest of the lame excuses ever. Lets all use that one. “Trust me on this,,,your’ll see in 50 years,,I promise”.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:36 pmBush sets the horizon beyond his own lifetime. That way he can always delude himself year after year, decade after decade, that redemption is coming somewhere down the road. But it isn’t coming. This is Bush’s strategy for running away from the truth.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:36 pmThe Bush’s transformation into full delusional mode is complete.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:36 pmAmerica thanking God for Iraq is like Jews thanking God for the Holocaust.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:37 pmI compare Bush’s 50 years to Tom Friedman’s 6 months.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:39 pmIn fifty years, if anyone still has a fond recollection of Bush( maybe one of the twins?), they will be asking for another fifty years to realize bubbleboy’s greatness.
Delusion is not bounded by space and time.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:39 pmThe Jihadists are thanking Allah RIGHT NOW for Bush.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:40 pmWhy do we have to wait 50 years?
Dear god,
Dont know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,
And all the people that you made in your image,
Still believing that junk is true.
Well I know it aint and so do you…
h/t XTC.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:40 pm‘Thank God’ is a common expression which is not always to be taken literally.
And, if the United States still exists in 50 years, I believe Bush will be proven correct.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:41 pmAmerica did not lose its faith in the transformative power of liberty
WTF, he has the nerve to say this as he is solely responsible for our great loss of liberty in this country? The man is bat shit insane!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:41 pmAmerica thanking God for Iraq is like Jews thanking God for the Holocaust.
Comment by Uncle Ho
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You’re a sick freak.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:42 pmIt’s amazing how stupid this guy is. In 50 yrs the children of Amurka will have no idea where Iraq is, nor will they care, because all of the oil will be gone by then.
filed under dufus
February 26th, 2008 at 4:42 pmI’m glad you losers have this comment board to get your delusional thoughts off your chest…
February 26th, 2008 at 4:43 pmWTF, he has the nerve to say this as he is solely responsible for our great loss of liberty in this country?
Comment by bilbobaggins
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I’m sorry, what liberty have you lost due to President Bush?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:43 pmYou mean that made up Invisible Magical Faerie in the Sky God or the Giant Pizza God?
Nope, it’s the Flying Spaghetti Monster god.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:44 pmI believe 50 years from now, people will look back at this period of time, and say, thank God for term limits in the United States of America and ended George W. Bush’s presidency on 1/20/2009.
That’s more like it.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:44 pm“I believe 50 years from now, people will look back at this period of time, and say, thank God…”
Recognition of failure in the present is preceded by claiming vindication in the future.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:44 pmComment by Strangely Enough — February 26, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
Love that song !!!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:45 pmI’m sorry, what liberty have you lost due to President Bush?
I don’t answer inane questions asked by morons.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:46 pmSo wheres the peace in Iraq?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:46 pmbilbobaggins,
Couldn’t think of any eh?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:47 pmin 50 years, I believe Bush will be proven correct.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:47 pmYeah, and some people believe the world is only 6000 years old. I believe in 50 years, I’ll be 90, and still wondering how so many Americans were dumb enough to vote for a ne’er-do-well for the simple reason that his dad was president.
You’re a sick freak.
Talk about a classic case of projection!
February 26th, 2008 at 4:47 pmcharlie; I thank you kindly. I will always oppose any effort to turn the USA into a neo-Nazi state.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pmHate to tell you this, George, but that’s not God you’re worshipping.
God doesn’t have a pitchfork.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pmWTF, he has the nerve to say this as he is solely responsible for our great loss of liberty in this country?
Comment by bilbobaggins
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I’m sorry, what liberty have you lost due to President Bush?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
Habeas Corpus and due process …….
February 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pmWhat about the clouding powers of delusion?
Send this nut to a treament center, he thinks he’s God, Abe Lincoln and General Patton all rolled into one soft sack of shit.
-GSD
February 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pmI will always oppose any effort to turn the USA into a neo-Nazi state.
Comment by Uncle Ho
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Me too.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pmCouldn’t think of any eh?
Nope, I just don’t answer inane questions asked by morons. If this dumb fu(k troll can’t understand that, there’s nothing I can do to help it understand.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:49 pmHabeas Corpus and due process …….
Comment by MCMetal
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You’ve lost your right to Habeas Corpus?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:50 pmAnd, if the United States still exists in 50 years, I believe Bush will be proven correct.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
If the United States still exists in 50 years, it will be in spite of Bush. And, really, your belief has no foundation.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:50 pmThank God for hanging a dictator who even in his wildest imagination couldn’t think to produce the deaths of ONE MILLION PEOPLE, but the US did?
Yeah, Thank God or whatever makes me feel good with my hands soaked in blood.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pmHey Charles James Napier – do you like grits?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pmPlease God, grant me this prayer. Slap the shit out of the delusional George Bush and knock some sense into that pus filled cranium before it’s too late.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pmI think Charly is Rip Van Winkle.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pmThere is such beautiful deceit in this statement on so many levels. First, if Iraq becomes some peaceful, democratic utopia in 50 years, some idiot could look back and say that it was BECAUSE of Bush instead of IN SPITE of him. If it fails and Iraq is still a mess, who cares, he is gone.
Also, this completely misses the point of “opportunity costs”. I know Bush didn’t do so well in econ, but there is no guarantee that Iraq wouldn’t not have become very “westernized” and a productive moral nation in the world WITHOUT INVADING THEM sooner than the “50 year” deadline (probably alot sooner). In fact, the way it was going, that is exactly what probably would have happened.
Most importantly, Iraq was a stable country that was not a threat before we invaded. We can only hope to a glimpse of what it was before our invasion in the next few years or so.
This doesn’t even go into what damage the schmuck did to The United States of America and where it COULD have been in 50 years without BUSH.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pmI will always oppose any effort to turn the USA into a neo-Nazi state.
Comment by Uncle Ho
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Me too.
Comment by Charles James Napier
If this was a true statement by the moronic toll, it would be opposing everything that the Bush Crime family has done. It’s constant support for the Bush Crime family proves that it is not only a moron, it is also a liar.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pmbtw- I just e-mailed the white house with my comment about comparing Iraq to the Holocaust. With a LOT more explicit deletives. with the suggestion they give themselves enemas- with hand grenades.
WTF are they going to do? draft me…again?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pmWhen I read history I see 5,000 years of empire building and subsequent war.
As I recall GOD, according to scipture, left earth and mankind to its ways. So, no, dont thank GOD for mankinds stupidity and attempts at building empires thru war and dont listen to the mammonists of greed and power that it was GOD that told them to kill people and make war.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:53 pmWell, Charles? Do you like grits?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:53 pmChuck, do you think UCLA will make the final four this year?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:53 pmHabeas Corpus and due process …….
Comment by MCMetal
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You’ve lost your right to Habeas Corpus?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Sure , if it’s ordered by Chimpy that I be picked up and shipped out of the US…….
February 26th, 2008 at 4:53 pmnanlichi–it’s been 60 years too late……. since Barbara popped out that little shit into the world.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:54 pmChuckie, do you like apples?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:54 pmJesus did not say “Verily I say unto you, Go, make war and build empires. Spread your political ideology thru force!”
February 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pmFollowing are examples of freedoms which President Bush and his fellow Republicans in Congress have already expunged (as reported by the Associated Press):
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans’ papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
http://baltimorechronicle.com/020105ChuckBaldwin.shtml
February 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pmWell, Charles? Do you like grits?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 26, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
What’s up with the grits? I love grits, at least stone ground grits. I like the leftovers with cheese melted on top and lots of hot sauce. So what?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pmNapier logic: Do you know anybody in a secret prison? Show me.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pmGrits are good! I just wanted Charlie’s opinion of them.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:56 pmChuckie, a year from now the United States of America will have a Democratic President and Democratic control of both houses due in large part to a backlash to your God Bush’s miserable 8 years.
How do you like them apples?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:56 pmIsn’t it convenient that it is always some time in the distant future when the “wisdom” of Bush’s policies will be recognized?
History will NOT be kind to the George W. Bush administration. Our grandchildren will study this period of history and wonder just what in the hell people were thinking when they elected him.
Worst. President. In. History.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:57 pmEmpty platitudes from an empty suit. Then another.
Then, some empty-headed provocation from an arrogant, thrice-named wingnut.
Let’s see, was it about 50 years later that everyone decided Hoover was great because he drove us into the Depression?
No? No one thinks Hoover was a great President?
After he’s out of office, the Cheerleader Prince will make it abundantly clear how little regard he has for the citizens of this Country, and how little he cares how history does or does not remember him. Such is the way of a sociopath. He’ll live out his days in the same manner they began – as a worthless patrician on the public dole.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:57 pmI love grits, at least stone ground grits.
So what?
I like little baby ducks.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:57 pmMutual love of grits could be a starting point for a dialogue.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:57 pmThank God for hanging a dictator who even in his wildest imagination couldn’t think to produce the deaths of ONE MILLION PEOPLE, but the US did?
Comment by Juan C. — February 26, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
Well, to be fair, Saddam Hussein actually was able to produce the deaths of well over one million people in the Iran-Iraq War. Thanks in no small part to our help. And Bechtel’s.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:58 pmIn 50 years the republican party will be just coming out from under the distrace that is Bush.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:58 pmThat’s Disgrace although I think distrace is a Bushism. “We’ll distrace him so thar won’t be a trace when we’re done”.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:00 pmComment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Comment by Patrick1
February 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pmwe never take the bitter pill. Bush has to believe something other than the fact that he’s a lying, evil, false-Christian with a shitty record. i mean, even Rush Limbaugh thinks good things about himself even though he’s a fat, angry, stupid, boorish, untreated drug addict. if Bush knew what he was, he’d be back on cocaine and eventually blow his own walnut-sized brain to pieces.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pmAnd, if the United States still exists in 50 years, I believe Bush will be proven correct.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
Do you also believe in the existence of leprechauns , unicorns and the Loch Ness monster ?
You may as well …………………
February 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pmHabeas Corpus
Trial By Jury
Miranda Rights
Right not to be tortured
Right to Privacy (and unlawful search and seizure)
Right to hear the evidence against me
right to a FAIR trial
right not to be whisked off to a secret prison (and tortured – see above)
….
I don’t know why I bother – yes some overlap, but I am sure that I missed some.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pmMutual love of grits could be a starting point for a dialogue.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 26, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
Yeah
On the same level as love of NASCAR …………
February 26th, 2008 at 5:03 pmI don’t know why I bother – yes some overlap, but I am sure that I missed some.
Comment by DanCaveman — February 26, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
Dan : read post #69.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:03 pmTHE GOD OF HELLFIRE?!?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:03 pmGrits make sense. NASCAR, not so much.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:04 pmYou’re a sick freak.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Pot, meet kettle.
a kettle full of grits that is!
February 26th, 2008 at 5:04 pmI believe 50 years from now, people will look back at this period of time, and say, thank God the United States of America did not lose its faith in the transformative power of liberty to bring the peace we want for our children and our grandchildren.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:04 pm———————————————————————–
I want everyone to check out the ultimate in wishful thinking ………………………
A fine kettle of grits.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:05 pmCharles neslon rielly didnt’ really want an answer, it wanted to divert the dialogue. Just remember chuck,you can’t say dialouge without saying die!
February 26th, 2008 at 5:05 pmGrits make sense. NASCAR, not so much.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — February 26, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
Grits make sense if all else that’s available to eat is stray cat ; same as with with watching NASCAR on TV…….
February 26th, 2008 at 5:06 pmThanks leftcoast =)
February 26th, 2008 at 5:07 pmChuckles has taken his crap in our sandbox and has now moved on to take another on some other progressive blog. Typical moronic troll behavior.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:08 pmHabeas Corpus
Trial By Jury
Miranda Rights
Right not to be tortured
Right to Privacy (and unlawful search and seizure)
Right to hear the evidence against me
right to a FAIR trial
right not to be whisked off to a secret prison (and tortured – see above)
Comment by DanCaveman
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If you are an American citizen then you have not lost these rights.
If, on the other hand, you take up arms against American troops and are captured on a foreign battlefield then you never had these rights in the first place.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:08 pmI don’t see where mr. napier came back to debate the freedoms lost.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:09 pmCharles neslon rielly didnt’ really want an answer, it wanted to divert the dialogue. Just remember chuck,you can’t say dialouge without saying die!
Comment by Bobwurst
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I have remained entirely on-topic.
But I do have to go now.
Have fun frothing at the mouth.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:10 pmI only see where he side steps.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:10 pmIf you are an American citizen then you have not lost these rights.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
Tell that to Don Siegelman
February 26th, 2008 at 5:11 pmThe US Constitution holds true for all men, everywhere, all of the time. Inalienable rights endowed by god himself, no less.
Now, please answer the question: Do you like grits?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:12 pmfrothing at the mouth? frothing? over napier? not likely.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:12 pmI want whatever it is that he’s smoking LOL
February 26th, 2008 at 5:12 pmWhat’s wrong with grits?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:12 pmIn 50 years, we may be talking about Kurdistan, Shiistan, and Sunnistan.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:12 pmThe US Constitution holds true for all men, everywhere….
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No it doesn’t.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:14 pmNothing wrong with grits. Although some people like theirs with milk and sugar, I prefer mine with butter, salt, and pepper.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:14 pmYes, it does.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:14 pmit’s expansive – like grits.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pmHe’s obsessed with his legacy. But he can’t change the fact that he’s a war criminal and fear monger who nearly destroyed our country quite deliberately.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pmEver the narcissist chymp to the end. The bitter, cold end on Jan 20, 2009.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:16 pmI am pretty sure God is saddened by all the US troops and Iraqis that have been killed in this quagmire.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:16 pmYes, it does.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
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When we captured German soldiers during WWII, did we bring them back to the US and give them an ACLU attorney and a jury trial?
Of course not, we held them in prison camps until the war was won…..and I have no doubt we roughed up a few of them too, if we thought they had important information.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:18 pm#9 oldtree:
Can you believe that he still doesn’t realize he was separated from reality at birth?
Maybe, maybe not. I suspect he was separated from reality by ethanol and coke, and the damage is permanent.
Cheers,
February 26th, 2008 at 5:20 pmBush is obsessed with his legacy. He ensured his place will be right up there with Hitler & Stalin.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:21 pm—————————————————————
I’m sorry, what liberty have you lost due to President Bush?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
I just love this old but common gem that the jackasses supporting the smirking chimp haul out on these occasions.
They think that if “you” personally have not experienced any lost liberty…why, then surely none has occured.
They’ve been trotting this one out since the elections when chimpy’s band of thugs were roping people off into “free speech” zones, miles from where his lowliness was going to speak so that his sheeple wouldn’t find out that the emperor wore no clothes.
There were multiple counts of people here in “da Burgh” arrested for not being in the “Free speech” zones while protesting.
They don’t seem to understand that if ANYONE has lost LIBERTY, then it is entirely possible that ALL of us could too.
Sheesh, Idiots…
February 26th, 2008 at 5:22 pmIf, on the other hand, you take up arms against American troops and are captured on a foreign battlefield then you never had these rights in the first place.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
Or if you had an unscrupulous acquaintance in Kandahar who really needed the reward money, or if you wrote a newspaper column in Pakistan criticizing the Musharraf government, or if you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
And while the Constitution of the United States does not apply to all seven billion people in the world, the Geneva Conventions do. As do the UN Convention against Torture and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:22 pmIs there a difference between a declared war and a bullshit war?
Here’s the quiz:
Is the war on drugs a declared war?
When was it won/lost?
Was the war in Europe a declared war?
When was it won/lost?
Are certain trolls so dense they can’t tell the damn difference between a declared war and a propaganda campaign?
OK, so is the GWOT a declared war?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:23 pmHow will you know if it is won or lost?
If history is any teacher, it instructs us in the incremental process that elitists use to implement their totalitarian agenda.
“The first step is to use an incessant, highly orchestrated propaganda.
The second step is to lay the foundation for totalitarianism by passing legislation that may later be used against the citizenry.
The third step is to demonize and marginalize anyone and everyone who opposes the government’s plans and ambitions. Such opponents are characterized as “unpatriotic,” “obstructionist,” “uncompassionate,” or even “ungodly.”
The last step is to begin using the power and force of government to physically silence or remove those who are determined to require such treatment. And, as Germany’s National Socialists proved, by the time this happens, there is no one around who is capable of coming to the assistance of such people.”
February 26th, 2008 at 5:24 pmAnd of course, if I happen to be travelling inside or outside the United States and get ‘extraordinarily renditioned’ to, say, a dungeon in Europe, then it doesn’t really matter if I’m American by birth or not. After all, crimes don’t happen unless they’re caught…
Hehe.
And yes, America will think god for Iraq in 50 years…..
February 26th, 2008 at 5:25 pm….
….
….
In Bush’s deluded mind, that is.
Weed + Jack Daniels = Bush’s comments.
U.S.A. to Bush: The World will Thank God that you will be gone on January 20, 2009.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:25 pmand I have no doubt we roughed up a few of them too, if we thought they had important information.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
You are wrong, and a typical rightwing moron. I have no doubt about that.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:25 pmWhen we captured German soldiers during WWII, did we bring them back to the US and give them an ACLU attorney and a jury trial?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
No, but back then we upheld the Geneva Conventions.
You are lying about U.S. citizens not losing those rights listed above. Bush can declare anyone, even a U.S. citizen, and enemy combatant, at which point his war criminal administration denies them those rights. Just look at Jose Padillo.
Now skedaddle, liar. Putrid lying filth like you is unwelcome here.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:26 pmOf course not, we held them in prison camps until the war was won…..and I have no doubt we roughed up a few of them too, if we thought they had important information.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
And since the current War on an Abstract Concept is unwinnable, they can be held indefinitely.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:26 pmACLU supports the rights of the likes of Rush Limbaugh while he screeches for their destruction. Smart.
As for the German POWs, they were in the military of a sovereign nation, they were given due process, and they were treated in accordance with the Geneva Conventions. Not to mention that WWII was a legitimate war. Had they been tortured, the ACLU (if it even existed at that time) certainly would have stood against such inhumane treatment of prisoners.
Now, we snuff the victims of/witnesses to, our illegal acts.
Why is the right afraid of legitimate trials, if they have done nothing wrong?
Not quite the same, wouldn’t you agree?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:27 pmTwo words, Napier: Geneva Conventions.
Our nation signed on to them, agreed to them, and never withdrew from them.
Yet Bush has broken them time and time again. And 50 years aren’t going to change that fact.
.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:27 pmIs mr. napier suggesting that Bush go in front of the Hague for war crimes just like the WWII german soldiers?
How interesting mr. napier.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:27 pmAs do the UN Convention against Torture and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Comment by toasterhead
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Someone ought to tell this to your beloved Iraqi “insurgents” who intentionally target innocents and behead prisoners.
You folks are truly demented.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:28 pmThe Bush administration commits crimes against humanity, as defined by international law and our treaty obligations to uphold that law.
But you don’t believe in the rule of law, do you Chuckie?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:28 pmBush lied when he said he needs a court order for wiretapping. Remember that. He flat out lied to the American people. Not worthy of defending him mr. napier. Wouldn’t you agree?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:29 pmComment by SP Biloxi — February 26, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
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Bush doesn’t smoke weed – it makes you introspective, and wingers don’t like the empty dark they finf upon introspection.
Bush is all about Jack and Coke and Coke.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:29 pmYou folks are truly demented.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
No, Charles, it is you who lacks a moral compass. You hew to a philosophy that two wrongs make a right. If they murder, then we are allowed to murder. That’s it, isn’t it Charles?
Charles, do you pretend to be a Christian? Because if you do, let me be the first to tell you that you aren’t a Christian. Christ wouldn’t torture. Christ would condemn torture.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:31 pmmr. napier, are you in favor of a draft? How about tax hikes to pay for the equipment needed? rationing? Maybe you have already asked yourself, your son, daughter or grandkids to sign up and go fight in this “noble” war?
Where is your commitment?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:32 pmSo, you have proof that all of the prisoners (mostly Afghans – not Iraqis) we’re holding beheaded someone?
Prove your assertion in court, dumbass.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:32 pmTwo words, Napier: Geneva Conventions.
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The Geneva Conventions specifically apply to uniformed troops of a foreign government.
Today we are fighting un-uniformed, non-nation state, terrorist groups. The Geneva Conventions do not cover such groups and it is widely debatable if they should.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:33 pmMr. napier, I’m curious your take on the prisoner in Gitmo that is now being represented by one who used to be stationed there in a different capacity.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pmNapier would claim that shoe leather comes from ducks, if it supported his crackpot positions on, well, everything.
up is down, wrong is right, and CJN is alllllll the way through the looking glass…..
…wave, everybody…
bye bye mr. napier…give the Hatter our regards – you and Senator Stevens and the Cheerleader Prince enjoy your tea party….
February 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWhere is your commitment?
Comment by hellinabucket — February 26, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
I guarantee this bedwetting fascist doesn’t have any irons in the fire. They never do.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWe? what’s this “We” shit mr. napier?
Where is your commitment? Who have you encouraged to join this fight?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:35 pmSomeone ought to tell this to your beloved Iraqi “insurgents†who intentionally target innocents and behead prisoners.
You folks are truly demented.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
Which “insurgents” would these be? The Shi’ite death squads we fund or the Sunni former death squads we fund?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:35 pmThe Geneva Conventions specifically apply to uniformed troops of a foreign government.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
Another lie from our little Nazi Charles. The Geneva Conventions also specify conditions that cover treatment of civilian populations. And these conditions do not allow torture.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:36 pmmr. napier hasn’t the spine to even stand up to the critics here. He has regurgitated old shot down talking points as if he has just thought of them.
mr. napier, if you can’t proudly stand and say you are entering the service or have actively encouraged one of your loved ones to join then you have no moral ground to say “We” or to thump your chest.
You are the definition of a chickenhawk.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:37 pmWe invaded a nation. We arrested people on or near the battlefield and on the word of other non-American persons present on the same battlefield.
Terrorism is a crime – not an act of war – for the exact reason you state. Crimes get trials under our system. Evidence is presented, as well as an opportunity to refute. The law is then applied.
Widely debated? No.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:39 pmSo, Bathtub Gin, You don’t think Bush/Cheney lied us into a QUAGMIRE in Iraq?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:40 pmA
Chuckster, for the one millionth time: It’s about US, not them. It’s about being a decent, moral, legal person. If “they” truly are bad people, I don’t give a crap about them. That doesn’t mean I want to become an indecent, immoral, illegal monster like them. But apparently you do. Sad for you, really.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:40 pmSomeone ought to tell this to your beloved Iraqi “insurgents†who intentionally target innocents and behead prisoners.
You folks are truly demented.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
Also – what’s truly demented is when the largest, most well-funded military in the world begins to resort to the tactics of terrorist groups, and cheerleaders like yourself support this.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pmIt’s about being a decent, moral, legal person.
Charles does not grasp what you are talking about here. This notion is not part of his crude calculus.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pm142 – they would have some new talking points, but the RNCC “lost” all their money, and now they don’t have any more quarters to put in the “rhetorical cheap shot” machine
February 26th, 2008 at 5:44 pmSo long nutballs.
I really do have to go now.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:44 pmCharlie:
All we’re asking for is proof. Why are you and your ilk so damn defensive? If you have proof, present it in the proper forum. If not, STFU and release these people back to their poppy fields.
Of course, they’re going to try to kill us now that you unjustly imprisoned them. Thanks for that.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:45 pmGod truly used that man to the fullest.
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
Why does God hate America so?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:46 pmComment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
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If you’re so goddamned ready, then go ahead and run out into traffic. Better yet, cash in everything you have and head for Afghanistan on your own dime to do the lord’s work. Faith without works is dead.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:48 pmCouldn’t answer the tough questions and ran away after one last sophmoric insult.
mr. napier, you have proven yourself to be every bit of the chickenhawk that I believe you to be.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:49 pmWhat’s wrong with grits?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 26, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Answer the question, coward.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:49 pmComment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
The name says it all.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:50 pmI know you are, but what am I? Sheesh, 5th grade mentality. Never quite graduated elementary school, eh?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:50 pmIf that’s what it takes for him (Bush) to make it through the day…
February 26th, 2008 at 5:51 pmDamn, is it tag team stupidity here? napier runs and in comes Rapture Ready with the holy chip on his shoulder.
Bush is probably right? You are going to have to back that up with some facts jack.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:52 pmComment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
This person, and Charles, embody what is left of Bush’s dwindling support. Delusional, bereft of a moral compass, violence loving.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:52 pmRapture ready = Daryll the Parodyll
February 26th, 2008 at 5:54 pmI’m not suggesting that you try to bring the lord here, I’m suggesting that you go to him – that’s your decision, and if you’re so damned sure you’re going, you’ll move the process right along. Bush might not be the anti-Christ, but he’s certainly anti-Christian. He’s a criminal of the highest order, with all of the morals and ethics that position requires.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:54 pmBill O’Reilly must have sent these freaks over here.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:54 pmSomeone ought to tell this to your beloved Iraqi “insurgents†who intentionally target innocents and behead prisoners.
You folks are truly demented.
This troll’s beloved American Dictator (George Bush) intentionally targets innocents and probably also beheads prisoners.
How does this moronic troll know that we haven’t beheaded prisoners too? Can it prove that we haven’t? And how about the fact that our government that intentionally targets innocents every time they lob a missile at a house where they think it might be possible that a bad guy is hiding. They know it’s just as possible that the house is occupied by a family of entirely innocent Iraqi’s but it lobs the missile any way.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:55 pmand you’re as crazy as a shit-house mouse.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:56 pmHave crazed ostriches stampeded through your local streets and parks? If not, thank God for using a man like President Bush. We are a crazed ostrich secure nation because of his policies.
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Thought that needed some reality chex…
February 26th, 2008 at 5:57 pmActually, as in all things, people will be split over who they thank for coming through it all in one piece. Naturally, there will be the lunies who wish to thank their imaginary friends and then there will be those who wish to thank the ones actually responsible for keeping level, rational and reasonable heads in a time of rampant madness and for their talents, knowledge and skills in balancing out the extremists among us all. There are millions of level heads around the globe. There is no monopoly on respect for reason or liberty among Americans, least of all in the U.S. government and especially the current Presidency.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:58 pmComment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
The troll who once was Darryll has returned. Thanks TP. Why in the hell can’t you ban them by their IP address? It’s not rocket science.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:59 pmI am ready. I am not going to force the Lord to come. This is his decision. You are just angry because, to a certain degree, President Bush is probably right. He has done more than prior President Bill Clinton.
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
Have you met Daryll, neoturd?
February 26th, 2008 at 5:59 pm“bush hasn’t a clue”
February 26th, 2008 at 6:01 pm. . . God . . .
as much as i’d really love to be baited into saying something that would be mis-construed as “anti-religious” i’m going to have to take a pass on RR’s disjointed and incoherent contributions.
it is worth noting which threads are getting the attention from Righty these days though – clearly there are certain things the RNC doesn’t want “the public” to spend too much time on.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:01 pmIf not, thank God for using a man like President Bush. We are a secure nation because of his policies.
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Nobody is safe with wingnuts like you praying for the rapture and trying to make it happen.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:01 pmGod must REALLY hate America. If not, why did he give us all these sick phucks like Bush, Cheney, Kristol,Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Trannie Coulter, Frankie M, Southern Pussy, Charlie, Daryll, Mr Pee, Jason Hitler, & now, Rap-ture reddy?
February 26th, 2008 at 6:03 pmAmerica will NOT thank God for his war crimes.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:03 pmTo re-state the obvious, once again, I qoute Sinclair Lewis, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross.”
February 26th, 2008 at 6:06 pmLets just think, who is it that’s wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross?
Impeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution!
Ban me for practicing the 1st Amendment? True unpatriotism.
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
The citizens of this country need to be protected from psychos like you looking to destroy the country because they believe that’s the best way to make it to heaven. You are a danger to society and to yourself and should be locked up.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:06 pmRapture, you didn’t start off by just stating anything other than an opinion about success and then Bush doing more than Clinton. Nothing to back that up but that didn’t stop you.
Bush has lied to the american people and hasn’t come clean on that. You want to stand behind a man that has lied to the american people then go ahead. You are standing behind a fool.
Have fun all, I’m off to the gym.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:06 pmMy question, why do you dislike President Bush?
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
If you are so stupid or crazy that you need to ask this question you are incapable of understanding the answer. Turn yourself in before you harm somebody.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:07 pmWhy do you dislike president Bush
comment by Rap-ture Reddy
Here’s a hint:
BUSH + HITLER
An evil, malevolent, lying, vile, fascist PIG!!!
Get a clue, asswipe!
February 26th, 2008 at 6:11 pmI think people 50 years from hence will be glad that George W. Bush is dead.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:11 pmLooks like I won the bust the new troll contest. Pay up, everybody!
February 26th, 2008 at 6:11 pmMy question, why do you dislike President Bush?
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
No reason at all. We’re just so unreasonable!
I don’t think RR is Daryll, but rather someone parodying Daryll, except Daryll is a parody already. I’m confused.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:12 pmLooks like I won the bust the new troll contest. Pay up, everybody!
Comment by RUCerious — February 26, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
I’ll send you a bowl of grits!
February 26th, 2008 at 6:13 pmunpatriotism?
How ’bout you getting banned for being a dipsh*t.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:13 pmThat works for me.
Grits! YeeeeHaaaaaww!!
February 26th, 2008 at 6:14 pmThe Pastor Jennings reference is a dead giveaway.
I think I’ll christen the new troll
Ratshit Reddy.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:15 pmToaster, I was talking about Iraqis, but you are right.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:17 pmBan me for practicing the 1st Amendment? True unpatriotism.
No, ban you from posting garbage strictly to incite. Would this troll support my ability to yell “fire” in a crowded theater and say that was my 1st amendment right?
TP needs a rule that says if someone is posting off topic or simply to disrupt, they will be banned. And the should make it stick!
February 26th, 2008 at 6:18 pmIs that 50 years into the six-month cake walk (as some in the administration predicted), or 50 years into a 10,000 year death march our friend Johnny Mac has predicted?
February 26th, 2008 at 6:19 pmHe has done more than prior President Bill Clinton.
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
Well, Bush has certainly done more to harm the USA than Clinton, no question. he has done more to embolden and strengthen our enemies, to be sure. He has done more to enrich the already rich and to hurt the poor and helpless, this we know. He has most certaily turned god against the USA, as evidenced by the horrible hurricane and tornado seasons recently. What Bush hasn’t done is defend the USA against our enemies (9/11), or protect its citizens in times of need (Katrina) or uphold the Constitution (illegal wiretaps).
The evidence is that Clinton was much more Godly a president, a better administrator, and a better man in every way, that the massive failure Bush.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:21 pmRapture so I changed my name to let you know that it is real, and I am ready for it. How about you?
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
we can only hope it happens tonight. then we will finally be rid of you and your overiding ignorance and treason.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:23 pmRUCerious,
You win, you were the first to recognize Brother Daryll. Did you get your degree in Scatology? What gave him away? Was it the smell or the tendency to stick to the sides?
February 26th, 2008 at 6:24 pmI changed my name to let you know that it is real, and I am ready for it. How about you?
Comment by Rapture Ready
Please then, go to the nearest bridge and meet your Rapture.
By the way, God is a made up faerie tale meant for the weak minded idiots like you…all Gods made up over time are just that, MADE UP.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:24 pmJeeeeez, the trolls are straight from the Twilight Zone. Send them back home.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:25 pmI’m fine with the Rapture taking Daryll, just leave me the hell out of it please.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:27 pmYou’re right, Uncle Ho, the trolls here must be from the Twilight Zone, indeed.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:31 pmRR in particular, is quite removed from reality. Perhaps he will find his starship soon and go home.
Daryll?
http://www.fstdt.com/default.aspx
February 26th, 2008 at 6:31 pmNo. 1: Fan of Man,
Excellent choice of words.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:38 pmI too am going to thank god on 1/21/2009. Hopefully then we will start seeing the transformative powers of sanity.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:39 pmWhat’s more is . . . I think I’ll hire some 10 year old kids to fly their RC plane into junior’s library.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:40 pm#1 your right which God, as things look for the pass 7 years I’d said Satan’s in the White House. Now in 50 years Bush will be playing cards with Hitler in hell.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:46 pmI love the Lord and believe that his laws should be followed, which is mostly practiced by true conservatives.
Comment by Rapture Ready
Yep…Vitter, Craig, Stevens, Renzi, Goodling, Rove, Cheney, Santorum, Delay, Hannity, Mcain, Lott, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, etc…
Yep, I am sure God is proud of your crowd…NOT!
February 26th, 2008 at 6:47 pmMy question, why do you dislike President Bush?
Comment by Rapture Ready — February 26, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
After carrying all that water for Bush, you’ll soon be Rupture Ready.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:49 pmRapture Ready?
Is that similar to that funky feeling just before orgasm?
February 26th, 2008 at 6:53 pmDear God, please come and retrieve Your good and faithful servant Darryll and hoover him up to glory to sit at Your side forever and ever.
Amen.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:00 pmWhy would the Rapture freak wait to off himself? Just do it, already! We need smart and patriotic Americans now, not you nutjobs who think the skies will open up.
Just a quick question Rapture freak: If we are the only humans in the universe, why would God have made all the billions and billions of other galaxy’s? Just for us to look at?
February 26th, 2008 at 7:01 pmJust a quick question Rapture freak: If we are the only humans in the universe, why would God have made all the billions and billions of other galaxy’s? Just for us to look at?
Comment by StratRat — February 26, 2008 @ 7:01 pm
Actually, I had a fundie tell me exactly that. The entire universe was created just so humans could marvel at how awesome God is. Because, as far as I can tell, God is so frickin’ insecure that he needs constant affirmation from a few million primates.
According to the fundie, there were no other live forms in the Universe. Just us. And Daryll.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:03 pmAccording to the fundie, there were no other live forms in the Universe. Just us. And Daryll.
Ahhh, yes. Daryll, in all his forms and names, still makes no sense.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:09 pmBush’s increasingly delusional mindset may have reached the point where his mentioning God has become self referential.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pmThought that needed some reality chex…
Comment by RUCerious — February 26, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
Wow the delusion is upon us! ;)
(they call it the Rapture, I call it the Great delusion!)
February 26th, 2008 at 7:39 pmFeel… the Snark…
BE… the Snark!!!
February 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pmThanks in no small part to our help. And Bechtel’s.
Comment by toasterhead — February 26, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
And don’t forget the other American chemical companies that helped him w/ his WMDs, or Reagan and Bush, Sr, while yer at it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran-Iraq_war
On 9 June 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC’s Nightline, “It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush Sr., operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam’s Iraq into” the power it became, and “Reagan/Bush administrations permitted — and frequently encouraged — the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq.â€
February 26th, 2008 at 9:01 pmWhat a dumbass. This is the guy who needs an earpiece for someone to tell him what to say? Liberty? Liberty? I got ur liberty hangin’ George. You all but erased the separation of powers, your nosin’ into everyone’s business without warrants and you and yur CIA gang are kidnapping people? Not to mention the discussion of torture? Americans DON’T torture…we have to be something better than that. Don’t we George? I’ll tell ya this, I won’t be around in fifty years and if I were I’d be cussin’ you out. You are one sorry excuse for a president. I can’t wait for you to finish your term and go sit in your Libarry at SMU. With the one or two books you’ll have there. I’ll bet they’re secret hunhhhhh.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pmIn fifty years our grandchildren will still be paying off the interest on all the money we borrowed for Bush’s Folly. Americans will be cursing his name and pissing on his and Cheney’s graves for many generations. It’s truly amazing that this clown is so delusional about the shear hell that he and his beloved faithful have wrought on our Country and many parts of this world for the last seven years. AND THEY HOPED AND STRIVED FOR A PERMANENT MAJORITY TO CONTINUE THIS INSANITY?
February 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pmHitler, Mussolini, and Tojo thought they were building something lasting as well. You’re in the right company, chimpy.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:12 pmPositvely Orwellian. Thanking God that we had a president who took the country to war on false pretenses and killed tens of thousands of people without apology. The Bush Doctrine: If you think someone may be plotting to harm you, kill them first. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you your Christian president.
February 27th, 2008 at 1:22 amActually, he’s probably not far wrong. While the rest of the world is squabbling over dwindling oil supplies, you guys will still be mindlessly bumbling about in your Pajeros wondering what the rest of the world is on about.
As Cheney said: “The American way of life is not negotiable”
Over 200 of you should try to understand what your “leaders” clearly talk about almost every day. Your security and prosperity is intimately linked with energy supplies and liberal access to them.
February 27th, 2008 at 5:19 ambush is certifiably insane. He speaks gibberish along with his lies and bullshit. A true sociopath. And the rest of his gang of thugs.
February 27th, 2008 at 6:56 amTroll “daytripper” thinks quoting Cheney will change hearts and minds here at TP. The American way of life is most certainly negotiable if by “way of life” this idiot troll implies dependance on foreign oil. The GOOPers can’t see past oil, oil profits, war for oil, huge tax breaks for oil companies. THAT IS THEIR WAY OF LIFE NOT MINE! Wake up from your haze daytripper, not even your grandchildren will be on their knees thanking their god for George and Dick’s unneccesary way of profit. Your children and grandchildren will STILL be paying for this amoral debacle in fifty years.
February 27th, 2008 at 7:57 amCocaine is a hell of a drug.
February 27th, 2008 at 8:23 ampatriot. im looking at it from their perspective. not yours (or mine). These people expect you to be thankful, in 50 years, when you still have all the comforts you now have. while much of the rest of the world is squabbling over the scraps.
And i think its wishful thinking to expect a democratic president, house and senate to fundementally change the status quo. Your entire economic system is pegged to military expenditure and oil, attempts to change that will be rejected by any and every means possible (including violence i imagine).
I too live in hope that change is coming with obama (how will be the next president), but my realist head expects no major change and a retention of the status quo. eg Troops will not be leaving Iraq,
PS: how is posing an alternate viewpoint troll-like? youre reaction comes across just like that of narrow minded right wingers. *fingers in ears* “dont mess with my paradigm!!”
you need to look at what they say not as direct lies but as “truth” as the see it, or want to see it. What matters to you and what matters to them are two different things. Thus, when he says you will be thankful in 50 years, he means it. and to many people, he will be right. especially for the unthinking idiots who think freedom comes with a 6 litre engine and off road tyres.
February 27th, 2008 at 8:54 amdaytripper,
I think you are correct to a point. I do think Bush has acted to protect the interests of his constituency but I wouldn’t use the word truth to describe his motives. I think he has manipulated truth for the end. The problem is that his constituency is the super rich and corporations, and he has sacrificed the country’s wealth and reputation and lives of the common man to benefit the few.
And they will be thankful. Their wealth and status has only improved at no cost to them. And their kids can still raise a glass of champagne or swing a polo mallet with either hand.
The hate for George Bush is palpable, tangible and justified. He will be remembered in 50 years with disdain and disgust by the majority of Americans and fondly by the elite few.
February 27th, 2008 at 9:35 amI suspect that the large majority of American people detest him even more in 50 years.
It’ll take years for all of the damage he has caused to be apparent. And all those people in the Middle East who we’ve pissed off? They have very long memories.
February 27th, 2008 at 9:58 amIn America you get impeached for lying about a blow job and re-elected for lying and blowing the job.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:44 pm