Comments on: Perino To Reporters: ‘From Where I Stand And The Questions I Get,’ You Are Clueless About FISA http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:37:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Tawdry http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4281074 Tawdry Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:53:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4281074 She is so bad, so dumb, so clueless. I'm beginning to think that the reason they haven't dumped her is because no one else will take the job. She is so bad, so dumb, so clueless. I’m beginning to think that the reason they haven’t dumped her is because no one else will take the job.

]]> By: bratboy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280990 bratboy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:22:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280990 The only one "clueless" in these press conferences is Perino. What an idiot. But so typical of this administration. Spew nothing but bullshit and false accusations. The only one “clueless” in these press conferences is Perino. What an idiot. But so typical of this administration. Spew nothing but bullshit and false accusations.

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280947 Max-1 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:13:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280947 . One of the defining characterizations to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it's own people; The Fourth Amendment. <b>R E M E M B E R:</b> THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS... And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When we lose that Right and freedom, who wins? What do the People win? . .

One of the defining characterizations to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it’s own people; The Fourth Amendment.

R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…

And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When we lose that Right and freedom, who wins? What do the People win?

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]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280944 Max-1 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:05:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280944 . She's a Barbie girl... In a Bushie world... . So Dana, Since when <i>IS</i> warrantless legal? Oh, I understand, you're not a lawyer yet you can assure us that warrantless is legal? . Yes, Red lipstick looks charming... ... on PIGS! . .

She’s a Barbie girl…
In a Bushie world…

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So Dana,
Since when IS warrantless legal?
Oh, I understand, you’re not a lawyer yet you can assure us that warrantless is legal?

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Yes,
Red lipstick looks charming…

… on PIGS!

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]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280879 Bad Eye Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:40:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280879 Oh, Dana. You think you are so smart and witty. You have had 2 years to explain why you can't go to the FISA court for a warrant when it involves a domestic-to-international call, yet you have no problem going to the court for a domestic-domestic call. It has been said that it takes 200 man hours to assemble a warrant in the first scenario. So how long does it take to assemble a warrant in the second? 2 hours? Why the difference? Frankly, darling, I think that the answers are very simple. It's just that you want to take something simple and make it difficult so that you don't <em>have</em> to answer. I guarantee there are more than a handful of administration hacks burning the midnight oil in order to do just that. Congress offered to amend FISA after 9/11 so that it would make it easier (and legal) for you to wiretap terrorists, but you turned them down, and directly proceeded to break the law anyway. Oh, Dana. You think you are so smart and witty.

You have had 2 years to explain why you can’t go to the FISA court for a warrant when it involves a domestic-to-international call, yet you have no problem going to the court for a domestic-domestic call.

It has been said that it takes 200 man hours to assemble a warrant in the first scenario. So how long does it take to assemble a warrant in the second? 2 hours? Why the difference?

Frankly, darling, I think that the answers are very simple. It’s just that you want to take something simple and make it difficult so that you don’t have to answer. I guarantee there are more than a handful of administration hacks burning the midnight oil in order to do just that.

Congress offered to amend FISA after 9/11 so that it would make it easier (and legal) for you to wiretap terrorists, but you turned them down, and directly proceeded to break the law anyway.

]]> By: marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280870 marlow Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:15:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280870 Cutest little sack of ugly-ass lying shit I've seen in a long time... Cutest little sack of ugly-ass lying shit I’ve seen in a long time…

]]> By: Com_n_sense http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280785 Com_n_sense Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:40:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280785 $10 million? That's maybe one hours income to them. $10 million? That’s maybe one hours income to them.

]]> By: senilebiker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280746 senilebiker Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:02:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280746 If as I believe the immunity thing is more about protecting the Administration then the Telcos, how about a nice compromise. The Telco's don't get immunity, but the damages are capped at say $10 million. This would allow the cases to go ahead with no 'risk" to the viability of the Telco's. If Bush turns this down, then we know the real agenda. If as I believe the immunity thing is more about protecting the Administration then the Telcos, how about a nice compromise. The Telco’s don’t get immunity, but the damages are capped at say $10 million.

This would allow the cases to go ahead with no ‘risk” to the viability of the Telco’s.

If Bush turns this down, then we know the real agenda.

]]> By: flavorino http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280724 flavorino Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:42:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280724 Perino to reporters;"You Are Clueless". Typical Rovian style ploy of accusing people of being or doing what the accuser actually is or is doing. This dunce doesn't know the law, doesn't know American history and isn't even a good liar, Tony Snow as repulsive as he is, was a much better liar than dumb Dana, even Scott McClelland, who wasn't a very good liar was better at it than Dana. She is a joke and a disgrace and embarrassment to the position she holds. Perino to reporters;”You Are Clueless”.

Typical Rovian style ploy of accusing people of being or doing what the accuser actually is or is doing.
This dunce doesn’t know the law, doesn’t know American history and isn’t even a good liar, Tony Snow as repulsive as he is, was a much better liar than dumb Dana, even Scott McClelland, who wasn’t a very good liar was better at it than Dana.
She is a joke and a disgrace and embarrassment to the position she holds.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280713 Leftside Annie Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:36:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280713 I guess Dana got her degree in 1984. *eyeroll* I guess Dana got her degree in 1984.

*eyeroll*

]]> By: Tired of being lied to http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280677 Tired of being lied to Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:16:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280677 <em>'Perino claimed that it was for reporters to “understand the complexities of the issue and where we stand.”'</em> Translation: There will be big tubs of Kool-Aid for the press to drink, since they obviously have not been drinking enough of it up to this point. Trust us - you'll love it! ‘Perino claimed that it was for reporters to “understand the complexities of the issue and where we stand.”’

Translation: There will be big tubs of Kool-Aid for the press to drink, since they obviously have not been drinking enough of it up to this point.

Trust us – you’ll love it!

]]> By: nellre http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280602 nellre Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:45:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280602 One of my favorite sites for getting a clue Balkinization http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/02/president-bush-degrades-our-intlligence.html They are plagued with a commentor there that's pretty much a troll, but it makes the comments interesting One of my favorite sites for getting a clue

Balkinization

http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/02/president-bush-degrades-our-intlligence.html

They are plagued with a commentor there that’s pretty much a troll, but it makes the comments interesting

]]> By: Angry McAngus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280553 Angry McAngus Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:30:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280553 #69. Correctamundo. How do you go to the FISA court to say you need to be able to surveille everybody with an AT&T or Verizon account, so you can weed out the homegrown terrorists. #69. Correctamundo. How do you go to the FISA court to say you need to be able to surveille everybody with an AT&T or Verizon account, so you can weed out the homegrown terrorists.

]]> By: Guido OBGYN Lover http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280527 Guido OBGYN Lover Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:22:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280527 If I were phone company guy "A" I would be looking to cover my ass by throwing phone company guy "B" under the bus. If I were phone company guy “A” I would be looking to cover my ass by throwing phone company guy “B” under the bus.

]]> By: Guido OBGYN Lover http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280524 Guido OBGYN Lover Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:20:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280524 It's so funny that Bush/Cheney actually expect Americans to feel sorry for the frickin phone companies. <b>Attention phone companies:</b> You better start making deals with House Democrats now! It's gonna get very ugly for you!!! It’s so funny that Bush/Cheney actually expect Americans to feel sorry for the frickin phone companies.

Attention phone companies: You better start making deals with House Democrats now! It’s gonna get very ugly for you!!!

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280506 hellinabucket Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:14:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280506 Comment by Com_n_sense — February 26, 2008 @ 5:09 pm Well said. Comment by Com_n_sense — February 26, 2008 @ 5:09 pm

Well said.

]]> By: Com_n_sense http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280487 Com_n_sense Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:09:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280487 "... From where I stand ... "? And where's that Ms. Perino? I guess us poor ignorant masses just can't see that high up a pedestal you think you stand on. The arrogance is only matched by the ineptitude of their being able to get away with it. When, please, tell me, when is enough - enough? It is now time that standing on the sidelines has become impossible ... “… From where I stand … “?

And where’s that Ms. Perino? I guess us poor ignorant masses just can’t see that high up a pedestal you think you stand on.

The arrogance is only matched by the ineptitude of their being able to get away with it.

When, please, tell me, when is enough – enough? It is now time that standing on the sidelines has become impossible …

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280476 Buckie Boy Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:05:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280476 The only reason Bush doesn't want to use warrants is because he is not spying on terrorists. Do you really think a terrorist would use the internet or phone knowing it would most likely be tapped? Bush is spying on: The Opposition (blackmail) / Fellow Repukes (blackmail again) / Protesters / Liberal Blogs / Reporters / Quakers (silly but true) / Liberals / Democrats / and just plain old Joe Blow And if this goes to court this will all come out and Bush will go to prison for his illegal spying, that is why he wants immunity. Buck Fush The only reason Bush doesn’t want to use warrants is because he is not spying on terrorists. Do you really think a terrorist would use the internet or phone knowing it would most likely be tapped?

Bush is spying on:

The Opposition (blackmail) / Fellow Repukes (blackmail again) / Protesters / Liberal Blogs / Reporters / Quakers (silly but true) / Liberals / Democrats / and just plain old Joe Blow

And if this goes to court this will all come out and Bush will go to prison for his illegal spying, that is why he wants immunity.

Buck Fush

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280475 MapleStreet Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:05:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280475 I think the insinuation of being naive / clueless/unknowing/etc. coming from Dana Perino is a little much to stomach. I think the insinuation of being naive / clueless/unknowing/etc. coming from Dana Perino is a little much to stomach.

]]> By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/comment-page-2/#comment-4280449 IgnoranceIsNotBliss Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:56:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/perino-fisa-briefing/#comment-4280449 Man, nothing like trying to tell the American People that we are all just a bunch of ignorant people and we need to be "background briefed" (off the record no less) so that we can understand why it is so necessary for the telecoms to have retroactive immunity so that bush and his cronies won't be held responsible for breaking the law. Man, nothing like trying to tell the American People that we are all just a bunch of ignorant people and we need to be “background briefed” (off the record no less) so that we can understand why it is so necessary for the telecoms to have retroactive immunity so that bush and his cronies won’t be held responsible for breaking the law.

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