Comments on: Ricks: Iraq’s ‘best case scenario’ is basically a ‘quagmire.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:09:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: jasperjava http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4281209 jasperjava Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:22:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4281209 <i>Once again we will see images of our Helicopters lifting off the roof of our embassy, this time in in Baghdad, evacuating the last Americans. Then, the tribes can go back to killing each other like the</i> [racist epithet deleted] <i>did in Viet Nam.</i> Nice revisionist history, there. After the fall of Saigon and the reunification of Vietnam, how long did the Vietnamese continue killing each other? Racist dumbass. Once again we will see images of our Helicopters lifting off the roof of our embassy, this time in in Baghdad, evacuating the last Americans. Then, the tribes can go back to killing each other like the [racist epithet deleted] did in Viet Nam.

Nice revisionist history, there. After the fall of Saigon and the reunification of Vietnam, how long did the Vietnamese continue killing each other?

Racist dumbass.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280997 Keith Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:39:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280997 BTW Gin, The Pentagon Papers said we must prevent the free and fair elections reuniting North and South Vietnam (as we had promised) because it was obvious that Ho Chi Minh would win about 80% of the vote. They also said that the "Domino Theory" was not true. We killed 3,200,000 of them. We killed 58,000 of our own. Many of our soldiers are homeless and psychologically damaged today. Vietnamese children are born with horrible birth defects today due to the vast amounts of Agent Orange we dropped on their country. All things considered, we probably wasted $1,000,000,000,000.00 What if we had "won" the Vietnamese War? You think China would not mind 500,000 US troops sitting on their border? What would happen next? These are the problems we face when we try to control every square inch of the planet. BTW Gin, The Pentagon Papers said we must prevent the free and fair elections reuniting North and South Vietnam (as we had promised) because it was obvious that Ho Chi Minh would win about 80% of the vote. They also said that the “Domino Theory” was not true. We killed 3,200,000 of them. We killed 58,000 of our own. Many of our soldiers are homeless and psychologically damaged today. Vietnamese children are born with horrible birth defects today due to the vast amounts of Agent Orange we dropped on their country. All things considered, we probably wasted $1,000,000,000,000.00

What if we had “won” the Vietnamese War? You think China would not mind 500,000 US troops sitting on their border? What would happen next? These are the problems we face when we try to control every square inch of the planet.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280996 Keith Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:28:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280996 ..From the Times (of London): February 23, 2008 THE THREE TRILLION DOLLAR WAR The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts have grown to staggering proportions by Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol/ comment/ columnists/ guest_contributors/ article3419840.ece ..From the Times (of London):

February 23, 2008

THE THREE TRILLION DOLLAR WAR

The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts have grown to staggering proportions

by Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol/ comment/ columnists/ guest_contributors/ article3419840.ece

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280991 Doc Rock Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:22:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280991 The US government is hemorrhaging cash down twin rat holes named Iraq and corruption and is heading for bankruptcy. The receivership won't be pretty either with huges portions of the nations debt being owned by petro-plus FOREIGN government agencies in the Middle East and several Asian countries led by China. They will play the part of mustachioed villain come to evict Pauline (the American people), but there won't be a handsome suitor to rescue us from the railroad tracks--and this is all thanks to the Cheney-Bush spend-like-a-drunken-sailor-without-paying-taxes binge. All the media play about 'it is a recession,' 'it isn't a recession,' is garbage--there is a DEPRESSION coming down the pike and the moustache lurks outside our doors. The US government is hemorrhaging cash down twin rat holes named Iraq and corruption and is heading for bankruptcy. The receivership won’t be pretty either with huges portions of the nations debt being owned by petro-plus FOREIGN government agencies in the Middle East and several Asian countries led by China. They will play the part of mustachioed villain come to evict Pauline (the American people), but there won’t be a handsome suitor to rescue us from the railroad tracks–and this is all thanks to the Cheney-Bush spend-like-a-drunken-sailor-without-paying-taxes binge. All the media play about ‘it is a recession,’ ‘it isn’t a recession,’ is garbage–there is a DEPRESSION coming down the pike and the moustache lurks outside our doors.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280952 Lefty Patriot Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:27:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280952 gin is a loser, has to call names after getting her ass handed to her by the Vietnamese. This is the way rightwing losers behave. They are like badly-behaved three-year-olds. gin is a loser, has to call names after getting her ass handed to her by the Vietnamese. This is the way rightwing losers behave. They are like badly-behaved three-year-olds.

]]> By: gus smith http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280922 gus smith Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:38:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280922 U.S. Sen. (R) Tom Coburn’s comment that going to war in Iraq was “probably a mistake” How insipid to say a major disaster was "probably" anything. It was an unmitigated mess of a travesty of a disaster!!! U.S. Sen. (R) Tom Coburn’s comment that going to war in Iraq was “probably a mistake” How insipid to say a major disaster was “probably” anything. It was an unmitigated mess of a travesty of a disaster!!!

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280873 Lefty Patriot Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:22:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280873 Then, the tribes can go back to killing each other like the gooks did in Viet Nam. Of course, in spite if your racist ignorance, VietNam's economy is stronger that the USA's, and its people more highly-respected throughout the world. those "gooks" defeated us, I'm happy to say, and the racists like gin can't get over the fact that their cowardice and incompetence lost that war, as it is losing today's wars against "ragheads", etc. Time to flag this useless piece of antiAmerican shit. Then, the tribes can go back to killing each other like the gooks did in Viet Nam.

Of course, in spite if your racist ignorance, VietNam’s economy is stronger that the USA’s, and its people more highly-respected throughout the world. those “gooks” defeated us, I’m happy to say, and the racists like gin can’t get over the fact that their cowardice and incompetence lost that war, as it is losing today’s wars against “ragheads”, etc. Time to flag this useless piece of antiAmerican shit.

]]> By: barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280818 barfly Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:41:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280818 "why are conservatives racists?" Comment by joe cantwell FEAR. “why are conservatives racists?”

Comment by joe cantwell

FEAR.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280813 joe cantwell Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:27:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280813 ... like the <em>gooks</em> did in Viet Nam. Comment by Gin — February 26, 2008 @ 7:35 pm why are conservatives racists? … like the gooks did in Viet Nam.

Comment by Gin — February 26, 2008 @ 7:35 pm

why are conservatives racists?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280806 katy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:08:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280806 <em>I guess you get a bowl of grits Katy ;) Comment by specialist f — February 26, 2008 @ 7:34 pm</em> in all my years, and even the time i lived in nashville area, i've never even tasted grits... thanks, but no thanks... :-] I guess you get a bowl of grits Katy ;)
Comment by specialist f — February 26, 2008 @ 7:34 pm

in all my years, and even the time i lived in nashville area,
i’ve never even tasted grits… thanks, but no thanks… :-]

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280803 tombaker Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:03:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280803 Nice outright racism there Gin. Might want to hop on the wagon for a spell, my friend. Nice outright racism there Gin.

Might want to hop on the wagon for a spell, my friend.

]]> By: kdoug http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280795 kdoug Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:51:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280795 Smooth move George W. You broke the military and the Treasury with one stupid bullheaded decision. Re: your legacy ... don't worry you'll be remembered alright. Smooth move George W. You broke the military and the Treasury with one stupid bullheaded decision. Re: your legacy … don’t worry you’ll be remembered alright.

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280791 specialist f Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:47:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280791 My favorite KISS song, "It's cold gin time again". Question for cold gin...who was all against using our troops for "nation building" in the 2000 campaign? My favorite KISS song, “It’s cold gin time again”. Question for cold gin…who was all against using our troops for “nation building” in the 2000 campaign?

]]> By: McWars http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280788 McWars Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:46:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280788 Comment by Gin — February 26, 2008 @ 7:35 pm You forgot Japan. We don't belong in Japan, either. 13-year-old girls there shouldn't fear being raped near/on U.S. bases. Comment by Gin — February 26, 2008 @ 7:35 pm

You forgot Japan. We don’t belong in Japan, either. 13-year-old girls there shouldn’t fear being raped near/on U.S. bases.

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280779 specialist f Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:34:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280779 Comment by katy I guess you get a bowl of grits Katy ;) Comment by katy
I guess you get a bowl of grits Katy ;)

]]> By: McWars http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280771 McWars Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:25:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280771 O/T I don't know of a year where the country had such a hard time imagining who the dem nominee would be, at least not to my knowledge of history. To anyone alive before the 80s, any take? This is the key debate tonight, this is it. O/T

I don’t know of a year where the country had such a hard time imagining who the dem nominee would be, at least not to my knowledge of history. To anyone alive before the 80s, any take?

This is the key debate tonight, this is it.

]]> By: McWars http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280763 McWars Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:19:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280763 Even in light of our aging population, we'll apparently have no universal health care for a looooooooong time. But defense industries are afraid they won't receive a raise on top of the multi-billion dollar raises the last 7 years! Even in light of our aging population, we’ll apparently have no
universal health care for a looooooooong time.

But defense industries are afraid they won’t receive a raise on top of the multi-billion dollar raises the last 7 years!

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280759 katy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:16:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280759 <em><strong>Democrats Mount New Attack on War Policies</strong> New York Times - 1 hour ago By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN WASHINGTON - Undeterred by President Bush and Senator John McCain’s proud talk of progress in Iraq, Congressional Democrats have begun mounting new lines of attack against the administration’s war policies. <strong>US Senate debates new Iraq withdrawal plan</strong> Reuters Army's Casey calls for cuts in Iraq combat tours MSNBC</em> Democrats Mount New Attack on War Policies
New York Times – 1 hour ago
By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN WASHINGTON – Undeterred by President Bush and Senator John McCain’s proud talk of progress in Iraq, Congressional Democrats have begun mounting new lines of attack against the administration’s war policies.
US Senate debates new Iraq withdrawal plan Reuters
Army’s Casey calls for cuts in Iraq combat tours MSNBC

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280753 Buckie Boy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:08:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280753 Stupid Comment by Cats r Flyfishn Idiot, oh course over time they will have to quit killing each other, but that is not going to happen for quite awhile, and it is on our dime, which is not a good thing at all. Man the repukes are just so.....stupid, it make the mind spin. Stupid Comment by Cats r Flyfishn

Idiot, oh course over time they will have to quit killing each other, but that is not going to happen for quite awhile, and it is on our dime, which is not a good thing at all.

Man the repukes are just so…..stupid, it make the mind spin.

]]> By: civil behavior http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/comment-page-1/#comment-4280752 civil behavior Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:08:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/ricks-iraqs-best-case-scenario-is-basically-a-quagmire/#comment-4280752 There is no best case scenario for Iraq that anyone can convince me is enough to cover for the dead, wounded, refugees and traumatic stress that this murderous invasion has caused. We must withdraw immediately and then try to make some sort of reparation starting with keeping our (expletive) noses out of other nations governments. This whole propoganda line about keeping the peace by shoving democracy down the throats of others when we can't even practice it ourselves is blasphemy. As another poster said the other day " I never knew I could hate someone so much and never know them." This excuse for a US president definitely gets my vote for being the worst most destructive excuse for a human being I could ever imagine. There is no best case scenario for Iraq that anyone can convince me is enough to cover for the dead, wounded, refugees and traumatic stress that this murderous invasion has caused.

We must withdraw immediately and then try to make some sort of reparation starting with keeping our (expletive) noses out of other nations governments.

This whole propoganda line about keeping the peace by shoving democracy down the throats of others when we can’t even practice it ourselves is blasphemy.

As another poster said the other day ” I never knew I could hate someone so much and never know them.” This excuse for a US president definitely gets my vote for being the worst most destructive excuse for a human being I could ever imagine.

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