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	<title>Comments on: ThinkFast: February 26, 2008</title>
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		<title>By: bratboy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/thinkfast-february-26-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4280981</link>
		<dc:creator>bratboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Bush predicted yesterday that voters will replace him with a Republican president who will â€œkeep up the fightâ€ in Iraq. â€œI believe the American people understand that success in Iraq is necessary for the long-term security of the American people,â€ Bush said.

Would someone please tell me what this moron&#039;s idea of &quot;success in Iraq&quot; is?
Security for the American people?!? He&#039;s kidding, right?
I&#039;ve said this before, bush is POTUS in title only. An idiot in actuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush predicted yesterday that voters will replace him with a Republican president who will â€œkeep up the fightâ€ in Iraq. â€œI believe the American people understand that success in Iraq is necessary for the long-term security of the American people,â€ Bush said.</p>
<p>Would someone please tell me what this moron&#8217;s idea of &#8220;success in Iraq&#8221; is?<br />
Security for the American people?!? He&#8217;s kidding, right?<br />
I&#8217;ve said this before, bush is POTUS in title only. An idiot in actuality.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4280981', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warrantless wiretapping:

http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/robrogers;_ylt=AijM4kofTMOKwu_SZBeNc6QDwLAF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warrantless wiretapping:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/robrogers;_ylt=AijM4kofTMOKwu_SZBeNc6QDwLAF" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/robrogers;_ylt=AijM4kofTMOKwu_SZBeNc6QDwLAF</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4280224', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sky hasn&#039;t fallen ( it can&#039;t, for scientific reasons, Mr. Golly) BUT....

the giant bullsh*t souffle&#039; cooked up by the GOP sure has.


GOP: Because, if we called it anything else, we&#039;d probably get arrested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sky hasn&#8217;t fallen ( it can&#8217;t, for scientific reasons, Mr. Golly) BUT&#8230;.</p>
<p>the giant bullsh*t souffle&#8217; cooked up by the GOP sure has.</p>
<p>GOP: Because, if we called it anything else, we&#8217;d probably get arrested.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4280129', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Republic of Stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Republic of Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snarkito, ergo sum!</description>
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		<title>By: The Republic of Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/thinkfast-february-26-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4280036</link>
		<dc:creator>The Republic of Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Snark, therefor I am.

Comment by Wayne â€” February 26, 2008 @ 11:30 am

That&#039;s the spirit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Snark, therefor I am.</p>
<p>Comment by Wayne â€” February 26, 2008 @ 11:30 am</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the spirit!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4280036', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exit Stage Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could he be impeached right after the November election?
And follow that with criminal indictments in February 2009?

Comment by Marie â€” February 26, 2008 @ 9:57 am

The first thing Dumbya would do is pardon everyone.  Then he&#039;d resign. Pres Cheney would then proceed to pardon Dumbya. Case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could he be impeached right after the November election?<br />
And follow that with criminal indictments in February 2009?</p>
<p>Comment by Marie â€” February 26, 2008 @ 9:57 am</p>
<p>The first thing Dumbya would do is pardon everyone.  Then he&#8217;d resign. Pres Cheney would then proceed to pardon Dumbya. Case closed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4280003', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by good_golly 

How many day until Bush is out?

Hearing footsteps?</description>
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<p>How many day until Bush is out?</p>
<p>Hearing footsteps?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279970', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has the sky fallen yet? No? The libs must be terribly disappointed. Good.

Comment by good_golly â€” February 26, 2008 @ 11:34 am

You better look up goonie because your sky is about to come crashing down.  You have until November at the latest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the sky fallen yet? No? The libs must be terribly disappointed. Good.</p>
<p>Comment by good_golly â€” February 26, 2008 @ 11:34 am</p>
<p>You better look up goonie because your sky is about to come crashing down.  You have until November at the latest.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279843', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now what the Hell was Huckabee doing prowling around that campus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what the Hell was Huckabee doing prowling around that campus?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279834', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh no...

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Campus Lockdown After &#039;Possible Situation&#039;&lt;/strong&gt;
ABC News - 49 minutes ago
Ferrum College, located south of Roanoke, Va., in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, has about 1000 students, 80 percent of whom live on the residential Christian college&#039;s Ferrum campus.
&lt;strong&gt;Va. College Campus Locked Down&lt;/strong&gt; The Associated Press
&lt;strong&gt;Va. college locked down because of &#039;suspicious man&#039;&lt;/strong&gt; USA Today&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh no&#8230;</p>
<p><em><strong>Campus Lockdown After &#8216;Possible Situation&#8217;</strong><br />
ABC News &#8211; 49 minutes ago<br />
Ferrum College, located south of Roanoke, Va., in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, has about 1000 students, 80 percent of whom live on the residential Christian college&#8217;s Ferrum campus.<br />
<strong>Va. College Campus Locked Down</strong> The Associated Press<br />
<strong>Va. college locked down because of &#8217;suspicious man&#8217;</strong> USA Today</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279828', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goony, you really ought to just shut ... the ... fluck ...up. 

You&#039;re way too stupid to be allowed to speak freely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goony, you really ought to just shut &#8230; the &#8230; fluck &#8230;up. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re way too stupid to be allowed to speak freely.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279826', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Huckabee Endorses â€œEgg As Personâ€ Concept&lt;/strong&gt;
By: Nicole Belle @ 7:10 AM - PST    

While I was watching and transcribing Mike Huckabeeâ€™s appearance on SNL this weekend, I kept thinking he is so good at being likeable that if you donâ€™t have a clear sense of what he really stands for, it would be easy to be swayed by Huckabee. But then a story like this comes down the wires and you realize that it is really, really important to know EXACTLY what candidates do stand for. Denver Post:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee on Monday endorsed a proposed Colorado Human Life Amendment that would define personhood as a fertilized egg.
[...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/huckabee-endorses-egg-as-person-concept/&lt;/em&gt;

oh, the can of worms this could be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Huckabee Endorses â€œEgg As Personâ€ Concept</strong><br />
By: Nicole Belle @ 7:10 AM &#8211; PST    </p>
<p>While I was watching and transcribing Mike Huckabeeâ€™s appearance on SNL this weekend, I kept thinking he is so good at being likeable that if you donâ€™t have a clear sense of what he really stands for, it would be easy to be swayed by Huckabee. But then a story like this comes down the wires and you realize that it is really, really important to know EXACTLY what candidates do stand for. Denver Post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee on Monday endorsed a proposed Colorado Human Life Amendment that would define personhood as a fertilized egg.<br />
[...]</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/huckabee-endorses-egg-as-person-concept/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/huckabee-endorses-egg-as-person-concept/</a></em></p>
<p>oh, the can of worms this could be&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279815', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Angry Liberal Left Slams McCain 

The Nation -- VoteVets has a new ad out against John McCain: 

Here&#039;s the text: John McCain says it&#039;s okay with him if the U.S. spends the next 1,000 years in Iraq. That&#039;s some commitment to the Iraqi people, Senator McCain...This is my little boy. He was born a year after I came home from Iraq. What kind of commitment are you making to him? How about 1,000 years of afforable healthcare? Or 1,000 years of keeping America safe? Could we afford that for my child, Senator McCain? Or have you already promised to spend trillions in Baghdad? 

In an email released yesterday, McCain&#039;s campaign wants you to know that the ad &quot;flat out lies about John McCain&#039;s positions.&quot; In fact, the precise quote is &quot;10,000 years&quot; in Iraq. Just more senseless thuggery from what the email calls the &quot;angry Liberal Left&quot; (in this case, a young mother and Iraq veteran concerned about her child&#039;s future). 


I saw the ad last night - and sent them a donation to keep running it. 

www.votevets.org</description>
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<p>The Nation &#8212; VoteVets has a new ad out against John McCain: </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the text: John McCain says it&#8217;s okay with him if the U.S. spends the next 1,000 years in Iraq. That&#8217;s some commitment to the Iraqi people, Senator McCain&#8230;This is my little boy. He was born a year after I came home from Iraq. What kind of commitment are you making to him? How about 1,000 years of afforable healthcare? Or 1,000 years of keeping America safe? Could we afford that for my child, Senator McCain? Or have you already promised to spend trillions in Baghdad? </p>
<p>In an email released yesterday, McCain&#8217;s campaign wants you to know that the ad &#8220;flat out lies about John McCain&#8217;s positions.&#8221; In fact, the precise quote is &#8220;10,000 years&#8221; in Iraq. Just more senseless thuggery from what the email calls the &#8220;angry Liberal Left&#8221; (in this case, a young mother and Iraq veteran concerned about her child&#8217;s future). </p>
<p>I saw the ad last night &#8211; and sent them a donation to keep running it. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.votevets.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.votevets.org</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279812', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Are you all feeling the Snark, everyone?

Now, BE the Snarkâ€¦

Comment by The Republic of Stupidity â€” February 26, 2008 @ 11:22 am

&lt;/em&gt;
I Snark, therefor I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Are you all feeling the Snark, everyone?</p>
<p>Now, BE the Snarkâ€¦</p>
<p>Comment by The Republic of Stupidity â€” February 26, 2008 @ 11:22 am</p>
<p></em><br />
I Snark, therefor I am.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279809', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Republic of Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/thinkfast-february-26-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4279786</link>
		<dc:creator>The Republic of Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay... now, I want you all to relax... that&#039;s good...

Next... focus on your own breath and clear your minds...

Now... we&#039;re all going to get in touch with our Inner Snark... good, good...

Are you all feeling the Snark, everyone? 

Now, BE the Snark...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230; now, I want you all to relax&#8230; that&#8217;s good&#8230;</p>
<p>Next&#8230; focus on your own breath and clear your minds&#8230;</p>
<p>Now&#8230; we&#8217;re all going to get in touch with our Inner Snark&#8230; good, good&#8230;</p>
<p>Are you all feeling the Snark, everyone? </p>
<p>Now, BE the Snark&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279786', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Now imagine a North Korean Orchestra playing in Washingtonâ€¦
Comment by Juan C. â€” February 26, 2008 @ 10:56 am&lt;/em&gt;

i can... after 09... ... if THAT works out, anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Now imagine a North Korean Orchestra playing in Washingtonâ€¦<br />
Comment by Juan C. â€” February 26, 2008 @ 10:56 am</em></p>
<p>i can&#8230; after 09&#8230; &#8230; if THAT works out, anyway&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279772', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Please tell me how.
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss &lt;/em&gt;

Oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Please tell me how.<br />
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss </em></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Probe sought in Marine vehicle delays&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Pentagon Inspector General Asked to Examine Allegations MRAP Delays Led to Casualties

The Marine Corps has asked the Pentagon&#039;s inspector general to examine allegations that a nearly two-year delay in the fielding of blast-resistant vehicles led to hundreds of combat casualties in Iraq.

The system for rapidly shipping needed gear to troops on the front lines has been examined by auditors before and continues to improve, Col. David Lapan, a Marine Corps spokesman, said Monday night. Due to the seriousness of the allegations, however, &quot;the Marine Corps has taken the additional step&quot; of requesting the IG investigation, Lapan said in an e-mailed statement.

In a Jan. 22 internal report, Franz Gayl, a civilian Marine Corps official, accused the service of &quot;gross mismanagement&quot; that delayed deliveries of the mine-resistant, ambush-protected trucks.

Gayl&#039;s study, which reflected his own views, said cost was a driving factor in the decision to turn down a February 2005 &quot;urgent&quot; request from battlefield commanders for the so-called MRAPs.

&lt;b&gt;Stateside authorities saw the hulking vehicles, which weigh up to 40 tons and can cost as much as a $1 million each, as a financial threat to programs aimed at developing lighter vehicles that were years from being fielded, charged Gayl, who prepared the study for the Marine Corps&#039; plans, policies and operations department.&lt;/b&gt;

[. . .]

Gen. Robert Magnus, the Marine Corps&#039; assistant commandant, disputed Gayl&#039;s conclusions in a recent interview with Marine Corps Times.

Magnus and other Marine Corps officials have said the defense industry lacked the capacity to build MRAPs in large numbers when the 2005 request was made. The best solution to the deadly roadside bombs planted by insurgents was to add extra layers of steel to the less sturdy Humvee, they said.

&quot;I don&#039;t think (the study) stands up to the facts about what we did, about what the industry was capable of doing and why we did what we did,&quot; Magnus told the newspaper in an interview. &quot;I just don&#039;t think that&#039;s accurate.&quot;

[. . .]

Gayl has clashed with his superiors in the past and filed for whistle-blower protection last year. In his study, he recommended an inquiry be conducted to determine if any military or government employees are culpable for failing to rush critical gear to the troops.

&quot;If the mass procurement and fielding of MRAPs had begun in 2005 in response to the known and acknowledged threats at that time, as the (Marine Corps) is doing today, hundreds of deaths and injuries could have been prevented,&quot; Gayl said. &quot;While the possibility of individual corruption remains undetermined, the existence of corrupted MRAP processes is likely, and worthy of (inspector general) investigation.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Probe sought in Marine vehicle delays</b></p>
<p><i>Pentagon Inspector General Asked to Examine Allegations MRAP Delays Led to Casualties</p>
<p>The Marine Corps has asked the Pentagon&#8217;s inspector general to examine allegations that a nearly two-year delay in the fielding of blast-resistant vehicles led to hundreds of combat casualties in Iraq.</p>
<p>The system for rapidly shipping needed gear to troops on the front lines has been examined by auditors before and continues to improve, Col. David Lapan, a Marine Corps spokesman, said Monday night. Due to the seriousness of the allegations, however, &#8220;the Marine Corps has taken the additional step&#8221; of requesting the IG investigation, Lapan said in an e-mailed statement.</p>
<p>In a Jan. 22 internal report, Franz Gayl, a civilian Marine Corps official, accused the service of &#8220;gross mismanagement&#8221; that delayed deliveries of the mine-resistant, ambush-protected trucks.</p>
<p>Gayl&#8217;s study, which reflected his own views, said cost was a driving factor in the decision to turn down a February 2005 &#8220;urgent&#8221; request from battlefield commanders for the so-called MRAPs.</p>
<p><b>Stateside authorities saw the hulking vehicles, which weigh up to 40 tons and can cost as much as a $1 million each, as a financial threat to programs aimed at developing lighter vehicles that were years from being fielded, charged Gayl, who prepared the study for the Marine Corps&#8217; plans, policies and operations department.</b></p>
<p>[. . .]</p>
<p>Gen. Robert Magnus, the Marine Corps&#8217; assistant commandant, disputed Gayl&#8217;s conclusions in a recent interview with Marine Corps Times.</p>
<p>Magnus and other Marine Corps officials have said the defense industry lacked the capacity to build MRAPs in large numbers when the 2005 request was made. The best solution to the deadly roadside bombs planted by insurgents was to add extra layers of steel to the less sturdy Humvee, they said.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think (the study) stands up to the facts about what we did, about what the industry was capable of doing and why we did what we did,&#8221; Magnus told the newspaper in an interview. &#8220;I just don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s accurate.&#8221;</p>
<p>[. . .]</p>
<p>Gayl has clashed with his superiors in the past and filed for whistle-blower protection last year. In his study, he recommended an inquiry be conducted to determine if any military or government employees are culpable for failing to rush critical gear to the troops.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the mass procurement and fielding of MRAPs had begun in 2005 in response to the known and acknowledged threats at that time, as the (Marine Corps) is doing today, hundreds of deaths and injuries could have been prevented,&#8221; Gayl said. &#8220;While the possibility of individual corruption remains undetermined, the existence of corrupted MRAP processes is likely, and worthy of (inspector general) investigation.&#8221;</i><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279745', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/thinkfast-february-26-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4279736</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;In concert in North Korea MSNBC
NY Philharmonic Charms Pyongyang New York Sun
Comment by katy &lt;/em&gt;

Now imagine a North Korean Orchestra playing in Washington...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>In concert in North Korea MSNBC<br />
NY Philharmonic Charms Pyongyang New York Sun<br />
Comment by katy </em></p>
<p>Now imagine a North Korean Orchestra playing in Washington&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279736', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/26/thinkfast-february-26-2008/comment-page-2/#comment-4279731</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yea - you all heard about this, right?

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain: &#039;The war will be over soon&#039; &lt;/strong&gt;CNN
&lt;strong&gt;McCain retracts comment he could lose on Iraq&lt;/strong&gt; Reuters&lt;/em&gt;

that&#039;s some real straight talkin&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yea &#8211; you all heard about this, right?</p>
<p><em><strong>McCain: &#8216;The war will be over soon&#8217; </strong>CNN<br />
<strong>McCain retracts comment he could lose on Iraq</strong> Reuters</em></p>
<p>that&#8217;s some real straight talkin&#8217;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4279731', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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