Wash. Times baselessly claims ‘military’ fears Obama.
The Washington Times ran a front page article today headlined “Military fears ‘unknown quantity,’” attacking Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) “commander-in-chief qualifications.” The Times’s only sources for those in the “military” who fear Obama, however, include a “retired Air Force Lieutenant General who doubles as a Fox News analyst,” a unnamed “senior Pentagon official,” and a defense “industry executive“:
“We’re very concerned about his apparent lack of understanding on the threat of radical Islam to the United States,” said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, who is pro-Iraq war and a Fox News analyst. “A lot of retired senior officers feel the same way.”[…]
A senior Pentagon official said an Obama swearing-in “will give the Arab street the final victory, the best optics, and the ultimate in bragging rights. They win. We lose.” […]
“We’ve got some trepidation. There is no track record,” said an industry executive of the first-term senator. “He’s an unknown quantity and that scares us a little bit.”
TPM’s Greg Sargent asks: “Is it really possible that such gutter journalism tactics would be signed off on by such a great journalist, as Beltway types keep calling [John] Solomon?
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ahhhhhh the moonies….
what would we do without Bush Sr.’s doomsday cult’s propaganda?
February 26th, 2008 at 2:57 pmI fear the abuse of power by the Bushies and gladly welcome a saner policy by Obama.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:57 pm“We’ve got some trepidation. There is no track record,†said an industry executive of the first-term senator. “He’s an unknown quantity and that scares us a little bit.â€
WTF? He meant to say “Obama won’t follow PNAC, and that scares us a little bit.”
February 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pmEvidently their scaling back on the right-wing rhetoric didn’t include scaling back on pulling stories straight out of their asses…
Too bad.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:59 pmGood to hear the Military is afraid of something. How do they like the healthy dose of fear?
February 26th, 2008 at 2:59 pm“We’re very concerned about his apparent lack of understanding on the threat of radical Islam to the United States,†said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, who is pro-Iraq war and a Fox News analyst. “A lot of retired senior officers feel the same way.â€[…]
Were they similarly concerned about George Bush’s lack of understanding about everything that had to do with the Middle East?
I believe that Obama clearly sees the things that are threatening the US and most of them are coming from inside our government right now. If “radical Islam” is a threat to the US, it is because George Bush made it so by creating thousands of new terrorists every year with his policies.
February 26th, 2008 at 2:59 pmOh - and they left this out: VOTE FOR OBAMA AND YOU’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!
*eyeroll*
February 26th, 2008 at 3:00 pmAs it should. No record of doing anything other than opposing the war.
Obama doesn’t “oppose the war”. We won the war a long time ago. Obama opposes the continued occupation of Iraq against the will of it’s people. And this is as it should be.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pmOT - Massive Power Outage Hits Florida
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) — Massive power outages struck Florida on Tuesday afternoon, with power reported out from Miami to Jacksonville on the east coast and as far north as Tampa on the Gulf Coast, police and utility officials said.
Motorists try to navigate an intersection after traffic lights go dark.
About 4.4 million customers across South Florida were affected, Florida Power and Light Co. officials said.
The outage struck shortly after 1 p.m. ET as scattered thunderstorms passed through the region.
But the cause of the outage was not immediately known.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/26/florida.power/
February 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pmAnd they were more comfortable with the deserter, coke head Bush and the five deferments Cheney?
Ridiculous.
Buck Fush
February 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pmI guess the revisions to that style guide weren’t quite enough to undo the Moonies’ craven compulsions.
Dixie - I didn’t know you were a Moonie. That’s weird.
All of the crooked parasites in the defense contracting industry are going to be on the attack ’til November.
They can’t risk a Pres. who would bring their disgusting gravy train to a halt.
Is America going to choose a President to satisfy War Profiteers?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:02 pmA senior Pentagon official said an Obama swearing-in “will give the Arab street the final victory, the best optics, and the ultimate in bragging rights. They win. We lose.†[…]
They really think that this kind of hyperbole is going to win them votes? What will it take before they get a clue?
I really do wish there was some way that we could hear truthful opinions from the honorable Americans who have had to serve under George Bush. I’m betting that most of them would welcome an Obama Presidency.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pmfrom antiwar.com (Justin Raimondo)
For a relatively paltry investment – chump change, really – the military-industrial complex hauls in boatloads of cash. It’s nice work, if you can get it. The problem is that the rest of us pay, in the form of taxes, to subsidize this politically powerful new class: an America that isn’t producing anything all that useful, except for bombs and subprime mortgage securities, is growing poorer as a result of their labors. Every dollar locked up in the dead end of military equipment, which cannot be used except for a single, rather limited purpose, is one less dollar that is invested in productive capital, i.e., an investment that expands the private market, creates non-government jobs, and generally increases the level of well-being in our society.
In effect, the military-industrial complex lives very much like a vampire, draining the life’s blood from the productive sector and reducing the availability of capital investment where it’s really needed. Our foreign policy massively misallocates the distribution of wealth in our society and pumps funds into areas that are not productive, while starving those sectors that would benefit the civilian economy.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:05 pmI heard something scary on Olbermann last night. Apparently the Republican party is polling it’s members as to whether they would support the party running a racist campaign against Obama. They want to make his race a focal issue in the presidential race. In a way I kind of hope they do it because I suspect it will backfire on them in a big way. But, on the other hand, I would hate to see our country devolve into racist rhetoric.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:08 pmFrom that same article:
“Defense industry executives worry that Mr. Obama will end six years of defense budget increases and, as he has repeatedly said on the campaign trail and in debates, tap into war and military funds to support his plan for universal health care.”
Yes indeed. Their true fear is that their “war machine” and the associated profits may harmed. This is NOTHING to do with keeping us safe; everything to do with greed.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pmAnd the opinions of (1) a retired officer who makes his living flogging eternal war on a Republican propaganda chanel, (2) a senior Pentagon official (i.e. political appointment) who owes his continued employment to election of another Republican administration and (3) a defense industry executive who has fed well on no-bid contracts and lack of oversight printed in a Moonie rag are going to change the minds of precisely what potential Obama voters?
This is just more opium for the demoralized wingers. Let them rant so all will know they are mad.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:11 pmWhere is the [fake] outrage from the reich-wing MSM like they did with the McCain story?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:11 pmSo much for the ” Wash. Times cuts right-wing rhetoric from style guide.” story, eh?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:12 pmAs it should. No record of doing anything other than opposing the war.
Comment by Southern Man — February 26, 2008 @ 2:58 pm
ROTFL! That was GWB’s qualifications in 2000! He had no record of doing anything other than opposing the war (in Kosovo)! The IRONY and HYPOCRISY of the GOP IS HYSTERICAL! Your daddy really shouldn’t have raped his sister (your momma), the brain damage is clearly genetic - TARD! ROTFL!
February 26th, 2008 at 3:13 pmIt would seem to me that the election of Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton would be exactly what the terrorists would least like to see… an indication of what exactly democracy is and what it means to be an American citizen.
If we keep electing the same old same old, and we do it as a response to what the terrorists are doing, aren’t we actually giving them the victory?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:13 pm#10, Buckie- My thought exactly. Deferment Dick and the Miserable Failure aren’t cause for concern? Even after 7 years of treasonous lies… unreal.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:15 pmwait till their push-poll robocall centers get fired up….
“would you vote for a SuperHero, or for a muslim ghetto-dweller who wants to give all your money to blacks, and let all white people be killed by terrorists?”
republican’ts have never been able to win a fair fight, so you can be sure they will fight unfairly.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:15 pmA senior Pentagon official said an Obama swearing-in “will give the Arab street the final victory
man, this doesn’t even work as hyperbole.
Seems to me the “final victory” would involve something to do with our government being taken over by a Muslim theocracy, and calls to bend our Constitution to conform to Sharia law.
A Christian American who opposes an occupation of a hostile land? Seems like the “Arab street” still has a few steps in front of them before they can claim “final victory”.
Of course, BushCo is pretty close to achieving “final victory” if you swap out one god for another…
February 26th, 2008 at 3:16 pmspeaking of military, are you hearing what casey is saying today?
can you say ” d r a f t ” ???
“The cumulative effects of the last six-plus years at war have left our Army out of balance, consumed by the current fight and unable to do the things we know we need to do to properly sustain our all-volunteer force and restore our flexibility for an uncertain future,” Casey said.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:18 pmhttp://ap.google.com/ article/ ALeqM5hcWJu9bbzrJZ7uNHjvMn0BuTGqHQD8V26BUG8
That was GWB’s qualifications in 2000! He had no record of doing anything other than opposing the war
Comment by republicans hate facts — February 26, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
To be fair, RHF, Bush didn’t oppose The War (in Vietnam), he just opposed personally fighting in it.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:18 pmand, might as well get this one out there more…
And the attacks on Obama haven’t even started yet from the Noise Machine. It’s so nice to see the right wing blogs show their true racist colors….(via lucianne.com)
February 26th, 2008 at 3:20 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/26/here-it-comes-2/
I believe that the military is much more afraid of the current Administration in general, and Pres. Bush in specific.
Both have sent our military personnel to war, improperly armed and armoured, and not care one single bit about the death of American lives for which they are responsible.
It’s a sad state of affairs that Pres. Bush actively fought against any post-war planning, and has proven to everyone that the lives of the service members that have ben spent mean less than nothing to him.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:21 pmIf I wasn’t already going to vote for Barack, those ‘opines’ by military hawks would have sealed the deal.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:23 pmThey NEED McCain and the bomb to continue their undue influence over public policy and our tax $$$s.
From that same article:
“Defense industry executives worry that Mr. Obama will end six years of defense budget increases and, as he has repeatedly said on the campaign trail and in debates, tap into war and military funds to support his plan for universal health care.â€
Yes indeed. Their true fear is that their “war machine†and the associated profits may harmed. This is NOTHING to do with keeping us safe; everything to do with greed.
Comment by impeachcheneythenbush — February 26, 2008 @ 3:09 pm
However, it should be noted, there’s no evidence that President Obama desires a smaller defense budget. This should be a cause of great concern to Obama supporters.
Without cutting the Defense Budget DRASTICALLY, there’s no money for other programs.
I’ve posted here many times that the Defense Budget needs to be cut 25% immediately and another 25% shortly thereafter.
Combined with raising corporate taxes, ending the Bush tax cuts for millionaires and taxing hedge funds at the regular income rate we just MIGHT avoid economic Armageddon.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:24 pmWhat they meant to say that he is ‘not white enough’,and not a crazy ‘evengelical’s follower’.
An essential criteria for Fox network.
‘No track record….’
February 26th, 2008 at 3:27 pmDid Bush,Clinton and others had a track record when they became presidents…?
‘He is an ‘unknown quantity’….
So a senator from a big state like Illinois is considered ‘Unknow Quantity’.. wow !!
‘will give the Arab street the final victory’…
What Arab street has to do with Obama’s elections…
How sick is it linking this to the Arab street….What’s the correlation?!!
It looks like it is going to get dirty now that Hillary is falling.
The smear war just started…!!
mmm
Americans to defense industries: Go the hell out of business. We won’t miss you.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:29 pmTo be fair, RHF, Bush didn’t oppose The War (in Vietnam), he just opposed personally fighting in it.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 26, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
Actually I was referring to KOSOVO, the war that was GOING ON when Bush was CAMPAIGNING! Yes he was opposed to it, and the IRONY is HYSTERICAL, not that the HUMORLESS BRAINLESS TARDS will get how STUPID THEY LOOK by BEING HYSTERICAL HYPOCRITES! ROTFL!
February 26th, 2008 at 3:30 pmROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!ROTFL!!!
When are you going to stop sounding like such a tw*t?
Probably about the time that S & M get’s a clue.
I actually found that post by RHF to be rather offensive and flagged it.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:31 pmI know you were referring to Kosovo, RHF. I understand the hypocrisy that you’re pointing out in SM’s post.
I just thought it was funny that Bush supported the Vietnam war but opposed his personal involvement in it.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:32 pmThey’re scared to death their Gravy Train’s going off the tracks. That’s all.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pmThese assclowns remind me of the scene when Sheriff Bart rides into town in his Guccis and the crowd gasps when he says:
Excuse me, while I whip this out!
February 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm“We’ve got some trepidation. There is no track record,†said an industry executive of the first-term senator. “He’s an unknown quantity and that scares us a little bit.â€
See also:
“We have seen the tragic result of having a president who had neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security,” Hillary Clinton said, making an implicit comparison, once again, between Obama and President Bush. “America has already taken that chance - one time too many.”
February 26th, 2008 at 3:34 pmIt looks like it is going to get dirty now that Hillary is falling.
The smear war just started…!!
mmm
Comment by tarazan
I fear you are right. But I firmly believe that Obama is up for the challenge. He is doing an admirable job already diffusing the swift-boating he is getting. As long as he stays calm and dignified and immediately fires back every time they send a stink bomb at him, he will be fine and they will look like fools. I think the reason why Hillary is tanking is because she is going negative and Obama is looking very calm and “Presidential”
February 26th, 2008 at 3:34 pm“Military fears ‘unknown quantity,’†attacking Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) “commander-in-chief qualifications.â€
There’s not going to be a military left by the time Obama takes the oath of office. Sure, they’ll be some pencil pushers, and “senior level” beaurocrats in the upper steerage, but the boots on the ground will have been ground into blood and bones by the current occupant of the whitehouse.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:34 pmFor the sake of argument, let’s pretend the Moonie rag is reporting a real concern among the military. This story illustrates how deeply the imperial dreams of the military-industrial-congressional complex have permeated our society. It seems like forever that we havebeen in thrall to gross militarism. Kennedy did not survive the generals who objected to his view. Olly North and pals simply did what they wanted, despite congress and the constitution.
Was there ever really was time when we believed in CIVIL society?Where the military was made up of citizens not corporate opportunists. Where generals reported to the elected Commander in Chief? This Washington Times story reminds us that the armed services and their industrial lords expect PEOPLE OF THE US to serve their agenda - not the reverse.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:36 pmArmy: Service must cut combat tours
AP - 1 hour, 1 minute ago
WASHINGTON - The Army’s top general said Tuesday he hopes to reduce combat tours for soldiers in Iraq from 15 months to 12 months this summer and would not go back to the longer tours even if President Bush decides to suspend troop reductions for the second half of the year.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:37 pmDoes anyone think that people who read The Washington Times are going to change their minds about voting for Obama, based on this crud?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:38 pmComment by Exley — February 26, 2008 @ 3:34 pm
So Exley is now recommending we listen to the wisdom of Hillary Clinton?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:39 pmNeither will Russia or China. Without the U.S Millitary and defense industries, how will we defend ourselves and the other countries that rely on us to do so? With spitballs?
Comment by Southern Man — February 26, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
The Chinese are already building our computers and making our clothes; thanks to the policies of Republicans over the last few decades all our industry has been shipped overseas. Wouldn’t they be happy to see the Chinese building our tanks and ships?
February 26th, 2008 at 3:43 pm#44 — Gummitch,
Not at all….Just pointing out the delicious irony of having ThinkProgress criticize a The Washington Times article that mirrors something that Sen. Clinton herself said yesterday….
February 26th, 2008 at 3:44 pm“We have seen the tragic result of having a president who had neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security,†Hillary Clinton said, making an implicit comparison, once again, between Obama and President Bush. “America has already taken that chance - one time too many.â€
Comment by Exley
And no one with an IQ above room temperature is going to buy a comparison of Barak Obama to George Bush. Barak Obama has 100 times more worldly experience, wisdom and intelligence than Bush has ever had and ever will have. He’s also smart enough to ask for help when he needs it. He was roundly criticized when he said that he would surround himself with people with experience, if he was President. I really like that. I trust that he will bring people into his administration who are experts in all aspects of running a government and that he will listen to what they have to say. Unlike the current Moron in Chief who only listens to people who agree with what he has to say. There is no way that anyone can be “fully experienced” to be President unless they have already done the job. And I don’t think that being first lady qualified as “presidential” or “executive” experience.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:47 pmActually, contrary to what one ignorant poster wrote above, Bush was not opposed the NATO military effort in Kosovo when he was was running for president in 1999;
“I would define the mission as to restoring Kosovo so the Kosovoians can move back in and at the same time teach Mr. (Slobodan) Milosevic that NATO and its allies and the United States will not tolerate genocide,†said Bush, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination.
In his strongest and most extensive comments yet on the 2-week-old bombing campaign, Bush said, “I’m concerned that a thug like Milosevic, if left unchecked, would set a bad example for other ‘ethnic cleansers’ or other people willing to commit ethnic genocide.â€
Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton’s administration for not doing enough to enunciate a goal for the Kosovo military action and indicated the bombing campaign might not be a tough enough response. “Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,†Bush said.
Although on Wednesday Bush said that a victory was paramount, “even if that means ground troops,†he said Thursday any decision to commit ground troops ought to be made by the military.”
Houston Chronicle, April 9, 1999
February 26th, 2008 at 3:50 pmNot at all….Just pointing out the delicious irony of having ThinkProgress criticize a The Washington Times article that mirrors something that Sen. Clinton herself said yesterday….
Comment by Exley — February 26, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
I don’t see the irony, really. I don’t think there are too many people around here who are big fans of Clinton or her campaign. It’s true TP hasn’t specifically criticized her for that approach but most other progressive blogs have.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:51 pmNeither will Russia or China. Without the U.S Millitary and defense industries, how will we defend ourselves and the other countries that rely on us to do so? With spitballs?
Neither Russia nor China will be a threat to us once we stop meddling in other country’s affairs. Also, China is never going to be a military threat to us. They need us to keep buying their cheap goods to continue to borrow money from them. They are not about to kill the goose that is laying golden eggs for them.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:52 pmDon’t try to pin this only on republicans gummitch. From Kennedy on down, they wanted a global economy, and they got exactly that. Clinton was leading the charge when he signed NAFTA.
And many of those people who supported NAFTA have seen the error of their ways and are willing to admit it. Then we will have President Obama who will work to stop our jobs from going overseas and to get us out of the trade agreements that are only benefiting the very rich.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:55 pmDon’t try to pin this only on republicans gummitch. From Kennedy on down, they wanted a global economy, and they got exactly that. Clinton was leading the charge when he signed NAFTA. He was also leading the fight to lower cost on Americans, which in turn moved these jobs you cite. They are all guilty of the mess we are in.
Comment by Southern Man — February 26, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
True, true. Should have written “conservatives”, including Republican light “moderates” in the Democratic party. Since Republicans are proud to claim control over the White House for so many years in the last decades, though, I’m not ready to back off.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:56 pm#51 Gummitch,
Oh, I know that many (most?) posters here are anti-Hillary and pro-Obama. But the administrators of the site itself have all but ignored Hillary’s attacks on Sen. Obama and are criticizing the Washington Times for publishing an article that, as I said, mirrors Clinton’s criticisms.
The administrators of TP are very much in Hillary’s corner (Not surprising since former Bill Clinton chief of staff John Podesta is a TP founder)…I mean, TP is one of the very few liberal/progressive blogs that did not even reference the Clinton campaign’s circulation of the photo of Sen. Obama in traditional African garb. Pretty much every political blog — left and right — was talking about that yesterday and part of today — Thinkprogress? Silence.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:57 pmPretty much every political blog — left and right — was talking about that yesterday and part of today — Thinkprogress? Silence.
Comment by Exley — February 26, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
At least they haven’t banned me for bashing Hillary on her Senate record =P
February 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm#56 Wayne,
Yep, to give credit where credit is due, they do allow Hillary-bashing in the comments section. But other than there, nope.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:09 pmNot at all….Just pointing out the delicious irony of having ThinkProgress criticize a The Washington Times article that mirrors something that Sen. Clinton herself said yesterday….
Comment by Exley — February 26, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
I don’t see the irony, really.
Comment by gummitch — February 26, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
I don’t see any irony either, gum. Both Hillary and the WaTimes are opposing Obama. Both would seek to magnify any element of his campaign or character that would work to their advantage.
Seems pretty predictable to me.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:16 pmComment by Exley — February 26, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
We don’t need Hillary or Obama Bashing…
February 26th, 2008 at 4:17 pmI have a friend in the Marines and all I hear every time I talk to him is how anxious he is to be done with Republicans in the White House…
Whoever ends up being the Democratic Nominee will be elected President in November…
…and the military along with the rest of the world will breathe a collective sigh of relief.
Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton’s administration for not doing enough to enunciate a goal for the Kosovo military action … “Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,†Bush said.
Swap out “Iraq” for “Kosovo”, “Bush” for “Clinton” and any Democratic candidate for “Bush”, and you’ve got a statement that any wing-nut pundit would characterize as “opposing the war”.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:19 pmThat’s why Obama is second in military donations behind Libertarian whack job Ron Paul. By military he just means the corporate MIC cronies. You know the people making money off of an endless state of war.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pmDon’t try to pin this only on republicans gummitch. From Kennedy on down, they wanted a global economy, and they got exactly that. Clinton was leading the charge when he signed NAFTA. He was also leading the fight to lower cost on Americans, which in turn moved these jobs you cite. They are all guilty of the mess we are in.
Comment by Southern Man — February 26, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
ROTFL!!! Sorry to INFORM you of this, but NAFTA was NEGOTIATED BY THE FIRST BUSH! You’re a dumb little redneck, aren’t you SON? ROTFL!
NAFTA was initially pursued by corporate interest in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and the Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The three countries signed NAFTA in December 1992, subject to ratification by the legislatures of the three countries.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:31 pm#59 - Exley
Man, I hope you are right. The slime is just beginning, and these scum will do ANYTHING to stay in power, because I think they know that if they lose now, they will probably be so marginalized that they will never get that power back.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:32 pm“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,†Bush said.
Funny statement that! Hey Exley, what is Bush’s exit strategy for Iraq?
February 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pmAll the military people who support Obama will have to be prepared to be swiftboated.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:41 pmoops - sorry belac - I looked at #59 wrong
February 26th, 2008 at 4:42 pm#14 bilbo, I have heard similar plans. It is not only distressing, it is disgusting.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:43 pmThe republiscum will inspire the KKK and latent KKK to come forward.
As to the “Arab street” angle of an Obama presidency, I think he will utterly confound said “street”. I worry a bit that they might view him as an apostate, but they may actually relate to him more. As racist as America is, we are not nearly as racist as many 3rd World cultures. The Arab street has shown again and again they do not understand America or American politics. At least the ethnocentric misunderstandings are a two way…street.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:44 pmI have a friend who just got back from his second tour flying choppers in Iraq. He isn’t afraid of Obama, he supports him 100%. He doesn’t want to do a third tour in Iraq.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:47 pmIt is un-American to claim that the result of our fair Democratic process would be a victory for any foreign power. Most members of our armed forces will tell you that they are fighting to protect our Democracy.
February 26th, 2008 at 4:49 pmThe Arab street has shown again and again they do not understand America or American politics. At least the ethnocentric misunderstandings are a two way…street.
Comment by Keltoi — February 26, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
I would wager that the Arab street is far more educated about the U.S. political system than the American street is educated about any Arab country’s political system.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:05 pmWhen are you going to stop sounding like such a tw*t?
Comment by Southern Man — February 26, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
Sooner than you, most likely. Republibots still supporting a losing strategy, an illegal, immoral, inhuman occupation with no end in sight (McCain: 100 years more!), and without the sense that the flying Spagetti Monster gave fruitflies. Obama is about 30,000 times more qualified than Bush for any aspect of the job of President, and the fear-mongering and lies of the Right will just assure his election, and, ironically, the return of freedom to America.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:16 pmKaty @ 24: Nah, just calling for more military contractors taking over services that were more cheaply carried out by the military itself.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:16 pmI would wager that the Arab street is far more educated about the U.S. political system than the American street is educated about any Arab country’s political system.
Comment by toasterhead — February 26, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
Well….it is unmeasurable, so we’ll call it a mulligan.
I do think the rest of the world would have a hell of a time figuring out what to make of Obama. We are seen as totally racist and backward - that we would elect a bi-racial, half-African with a Muslim name would really throw them for a loop, I think. Which would be a potent weapon in the Obarsenal.
February 26th, 2008 at 5:18 pmhave a friend who just got back from his second tour flying choppers in Iraq. He isn’t afraid of Obama, he supports him 100%. He doesn’t want to do a third tour in Iraq.
Comment by Krazny — February 26, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
My wife and I are doing our second tours and couldn’t agree more.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:19 pmI do think the rest of the world would have a hell of a time figuring out what to make of Obama. We are seen as totally racist and backward - that we would elect a bi-racial, half-African with a Muslim name would really throw them for a loop, I think. Which would be a potent weapon in the Obarsenal.
Comment by Keltoi
BS, the world is not that stupid. They can see very well who Obama is and why the people in this country seem to really like him. Most of the people in the world still like and respect the people in our country, they only hold our current government in total disdain. They will not be at all surprised when Obama is elected our President. I think they will be relieved.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:41 pmWhereas if McCain, by some subterfuge, is selected, only the terrorists will be relieved. republicans suck at national security and defense, among every other concern.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:57 pmThe sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!!
They are running scared. Sorry bastards don’t want people to wake up.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:46 pmTP and TPM are wrong on this one.
February 26th, 2008 at 9:40 pm.
Some people say…
Yea, right. Like who?
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February 27th, 2008 at 1:15 amAs rastaman said in #1, The Washington Times is controlled by the Moonies—a strange Korean religious cult not much better than Jonestown or the Branch Davidians. They funded GHWBush throughout his career.
February 27th, 2008 at 7:24 amWell, at least everyone can say they were warned that this was going to happen should Obama be the nominee.
February 27th, 2008 at 11:41 amNow all you can do is sit back and whine about it.