Comments on: ThinkFast: February 27, 2008 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:32:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: HighPlainsJoker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281648 HighPlainsJoker Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:25:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281648 All: For what its worth, and make your own points. I live in Europe. Gas is over $8 per gallon. No one to my knowledge has run off any collapsed bridges in the last 30 years. Gas itself costs about the same to Europeans, taxes are the burdened difference. Europeans continue to buy economic small cars and Mercedes, BMW, etc. What's the point? Well, GiGi has made far too many comments, has been foiled at every turn and just keeps on spewing tripe, without thought. No good comes from it except, the logical people here do improve my knowledge most of the time. Among others, #52, Bluestocking adds some real insight. If GiGi left the site, what the hell would we get get agitated about? Could not possibly run to 135 comments. Supply side economics at work again. I could go for some "govt" control and throw her off the site.... All: For what its worth, and make your own points. I live in Europe. Gas is over $8 per gallon. No one to my knowledge has run off any collapsed bridges in the last 30 years. Gas itself costs about the same to Europeans, taxes are the burdened difference.

Europeans continue to buy economic small cars and Mercedes, BMW, etc. What’s the point?

Well, GiGi has made far too many comments, has been foiled at every turn and just keeps on spewing tripe, without thought. No good comes from it except, the logical people here do improve my knowledge most of the time. Among others, #52, Bluestocking adds some real insight.

If GiGi left the site, what the hell would we get get agitated about? Could not possibly run to 135 comments. Supply side economics at work again. I could go for some “govt” control and throw her off the site….

]]> By: enough http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281633 enough Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:12:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281633 "...underpinnings of President Bush’s intelligence..." Does he wear a truss. “…underpinnings of President Bush’s intelligence…”

Does he wear a truss.

]]> By: jpoke42 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281626 jpoke42 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:07:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281626 thx katy... now if only they had a pill to cure my republican ailments.... thx katy… now if only they had a pill to cure my republican ailments….

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281616 katy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:01:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281616 good for you, jpoke! keep it up! 6 years for me... that first 6 mos. is the roughest... the coughing... ugh... but hang in there! good for you, jpoke! keep it up!

6 years for me… that first 6 mos. is the roughest…
the coughing… ugh… but hang in there!

]]> By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281567 upright left Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:37:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281567 What about the “Democratic controlled Congress”? Even you yourself, just days ago, while preening about a presumed Republican win in the White House, admitted that no such control exists. No specific veto is necessary; why should the House send something forward to a certain veto from this president? Comment by gummitch — February 27, 2008 @ 9:23 am A bit off topic, but relevant. The House should repeatedly send bills that they feel strongly about to Bush and force him to veto them repeatedly. If they had done that on getting us out of Iraq, we might be out by now or at least making progress. Most Americans feel strongly about getting out of Iraq and keeping the issue in front of voters and making Bush confront it might help. At least they would be doing something. What about the “Democratic controlled Congress”? Even you yourself, just days ago, while preening about a presumed Republican win in the White House, admitted that no such control exists. No specific veto is necessary; why should the House send something forward to a certain veto from this president?

Comment by gummitch — February 27, 2008 @ 9:23 am

A bit off topic, but relevant. The House should repeatedly send bills that they feel strongly about to Bush and force him to veto them repeatedly. If they had done that on getting us out of Iraq, we might be out by now or at least making progress. Most Americans feel strongly about getting out of Iraq and keeping the issue in front of voters and making Bush confront it might help. At least they would be doing something.

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281530 DieNowForPeace Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:20:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281530 Not so for everyone, jpoke42. Many people are suffering and dying from an unscrupulous drug approval system: <blockquote> Most recently, the FDA has been evaluating reports that in addition to erratic behavior in patients taking Chantix, suicidal thoughts, depression, and changes in the emotional state are present in many cases. These Chantix psychiatric adverse events can set in within days or weeks of beginning the Chantix treatment. In fact, many patients taking the medicine have posted their feelings online, seeking support after a highly-publicized shooting was linked by the media to the drug. Most of these people describe intense nightmares, paralyzing depression, consuming apathy, anxiety, or thoughts of suicide. Many of these cases were linked to alcohol consumption and the interaction that it has with the drug. While there is not a definitive Chantix-suicide connection in a controlled testing, there is ever-mounting evidence raising concern.</blockquote> For some, it's trading one "narcotic" with dangerous side effects, for another (Big Pharma's modus operandi). Not so for everyone, jpoke42. Many people are suffering and dying from an unscrupulous drug approval system:

Most recently, the FDA has been evaluating reports that in addition to erratic behavior in patients taking Chantix, suicidal thoughts, depression, and changes in the emotional state are present in many cases. These Chantix psychiatric adverse events can set in within days or weeks of beginning the Chantix treatment. In fact, many patients taking the medicine have posted their feelings online, seeking support after a highly-publicized shooting was linked by the media to the drug. Most of these people describe intense nightmares, paralyzing depression, consuming apathy, anxiety, or thoughts of suicide. Many of these cases were linked to alcohol consumption and the interaction that it has with the drug. While there is not a definitive Chantix-suicide connection in a controlled testing, there is ever-mounting evidence raising concern.

For some, it’s trading one “narcotic” with dangerous side effects, for another (Big Pharma’s modus operandi).

]]> By: jpoke42 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281514 jpoke42 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:14:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281514 A bit off topic, but not by much. If Coulter wants to stop smoking, she should check out Chantix. I hate to give big pharma (Pfeizer) any credit, but I smoked for 15 years and have tried stopping for the last 3 without any luck at all. I started hearing from much heavier smokers than I about Chantix and how it was so successful at making them quit. I started on the drug with big doubts and fully expected for it to fail. In fact, it worked. Even if I try to smoke, it tastes nasty and I put it out immediately. Seriously, if there are any smokers out there that even have an inkling that they want to quit, Chantix works very, very well. A bit off topic, but not by much. If Coulter wants to stop smoking, she should check out Chantix. I hate to give big pharma (Pfeizer) any credit, but I smoked for 15 years and have tried stopping for the last 3 without any luck at all. I started hearing from much heavier smokers than I about Chantix and how it was so successful at making them quit. I started on the drug with big doubts and fully expected for it to fail. In fact, it worked. Even if I try to smoke, it tastes nasty and I put it out immediately.

Seriously, if there are any smokers out there that even have an inkling that they want to quit, Chantix works very, very well.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281453 Leftside Annie Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:52:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281453 Pot calling the kettle black, eh, goony...? OK. Pot calling the kettle black, eh, goony…?

OK.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281440 katy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:49:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281440 also... RIP... <em><strong>Author, conservative commentator William F. Buckley Jr. dies at 82</strong> Boston Globe, United States - 39 minutes ago William F. Buckley Jr., the conservative pioneer who died today at his home smiled during an interview in July 2004. By Mark Feeney, Globe Staff William F. ... </em> i used to enjoy listening to him... 20, 30 years ago... at times, recently... he is of, what i think of as, the REAL republican party... like my dad... they are all dying off... the neoCONS have trashed their lagacy... maybe they even allowed it... and helped... ... also… RIP…

Author, conservative commentator William F. Buckley Jr. dies at 82
Boston Globe, United States – 39 minutes ago
William F. Buckley Jr., the conservative pioneer who died today at his home smiled during an interview in July 2004. By Mark Feeney, Globe Staff William F. …

i used to enjoy listening to him… 20, 30 years ago… at times, recently…
he is of, what i think of as, the REAL republican party… like my dad…
they are all dying off… the neoCONS have trashed their lagacy…
maybe they even allowed it… and helped…
…

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281426 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:45:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281426 <em>You can’t convince a bunch of close minded so-called “progressives” of anything right. All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs. Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm</em> Ah, yes -- the magic rationalization. You can't convince "so-called progressives" of anything, but it's because we're "close minded" and not because you fail utterly in any attempt at logic or rational debate. Not because whenever one of us points out a flaw in your reasoning, you never address it but simply ignore it and move on to another delaying tactic. Yeah. That has nothing to do with your inability to convince anyone of anything you believe. You can’t convince a bunch of close minded so-called “progressives” of anything right. All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs.

Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

Ah, yes — the magic rationalization.

You can’t convince “so-called progressives” of anything, but it’s because we’re “close minded” and not because you fail utterly in any attempt at logic or rational debate. Not because whenever one of us points out a flaw in your reasoning, you never address it but simply ignore it and move on to another delaying tactic.

Yeah. That has nothing to do with your inability to convince anyone of anything you believe.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281422 katy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:44:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281422 did you see this? <em><strong>Gates to tell Turkey to end incursion soon</strong> United Press International - 1 hour ago ANKARA, Turkey, Feb. 27 (UPI) -- Ending the Turkish incursion into northern Iraq top the agenda of Turkish and Iraqi leaders meeting Wednesday in Baghdad. <strong>Gates to Turks: End Iraq Incursion Soon</strong> The Associated Press <strong>US Defense Chief to Tell Turkey to Quickly Conclude Iraq Military</strong> ... Voice of America</em> ... VOA is very diplomatic... did you see this?

Gates to tell Turkey to end incursion soon
United Press International – 1 hour ago
ANKARA, Turkey, Feb. 27 (UPI) — Ending the Turkish incursion into northern Iraq top the agenda of Turkish and Iraqi leaders meeting Wednesday in Baghdad.
Gates to Turks: End Iraq Incursion Soon The Associated Press
US Defense Chief to Tell Turkey to Quickly Conclude Iraq Military … Voice of America

… VOA is very diplomatic…

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281408 Democrat Soldier Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:41:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281408 #125 - "All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs." Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm I guess that's the difference between a progressive/liberal website and a right-whiner web-site. Right-whiner websites refuse to allow alternative points of view. Redstate.org will immediately ban you for not repeating their party line, or if you mention that you're not a right-whiner. TP will only ban someone for repeated violations of their Terms of Use. TP encourages alternative points of view, and allows for thoughful responses by those, and to those, who have differences of opinion. TP also allows far-right and far-left "knee-jerk" responses. It's thr right-whiner sites that actively ban anyone for not drinking the kool-aide and regurgitating the "acceptable party line". #125 – “All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs.” Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

I guess that’s the difference between a progressive/liberal website and a right-whiner web-site. Right-whiner websites refuse to allow alternative points of view. Redstate.org will immediately ban you for not repeating their party line, or if you mention that you’re not a right-whiner.

TP will only ban someone for repeated violations of their Terms of Use. TP encourages alternative points of view, and allows for thoughful responses by those, and to those, who have differences of opinion. TP also allows far-right and far-left “knee-jerk” responses.

It’s thr right-whiner sites that actively ban anyone for not drinking the kool-aide and regurgitating the “acceptable party line”.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281402 Lefty Patriot Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:40:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281402 Never happened. I won them all. Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:08 pm more lies, gg never wins anything. lifelong loser. All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs. Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm and in doing so remind us how wrong your POV is, and how stupid conservatards are. Never happened. I won them all.

Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

more lies, gg never wins anything. lifelong loser.

All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs.

Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

and in doing so remind us how wrong your POV is, and how stupid conservatards are.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281399 dbadass Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:39:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281399 You can’t convince a bunch of close minded so-called “progressives” of anything right. All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs. Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm Is this a contrAdiction? How can you be so sure that your own "point of view" is "anything right" By definition are not points of view subjective? You can’t convince a bunch of close minded so-called “progressives” of anything right. All you can do is remind them that there is a different point of view than theirs.

Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

Is this a contrAdiction? How can you be so sure that your own “point of view” is “anything right” By definition are not points of view subjective?

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281363 Uncle Ho Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:29:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281363 comment by GiGi @ 12:22 pm Does that mean we can count on you splitting? Never to return? If so, you just made my & everyone's day here. Hasta la vista, baby! comment by GiGi @ 12:22 pm

Does that mean we can count on you splitting? Never to return? If so, you just made my & everyone’s day here. Hasta la vista, baby!

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281304 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:14:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281304 <em>Never happened. I won them all. Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:08 pm</em> Just like you win them all here on TP?, huh? Heh. Never happened. I won them all.

Comment by good_golly — February 27, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

Just like you win them all here on TP?, huh?

Heh.

]]> By: A Patriot Acting http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281299 A Patriot Acting Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:11:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281299 Comment by alpuz3 — February 27, 2008 @ 10:52 am Thanks for the link, alpuz3. I guess Republican donors are beginning to see that after donating their money to a candidate that in a short time they will be solicited again by the said candidates legal defense fund. Looks like they're getting tired of throwing bad money after bad. Comment by alpuz3 — February 27, 2008 @ 10:52 am

Thanks for the link, alpuz3. I guess Republican donors are beginning to see that after donating their money to a candidate that in a short time they will be solicited again by the said candidates legal defense fund. Looks like they’re getting tired of throwing bad money after bad.

]]> By: TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281221 TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:29:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281221 Comment by Uncle Ho — February 27, 2008 @ 11:04 am Thanks Uncle Ho. Cope was one of the Good guys. He created the ubiquitous symbol "the Terrible Towel" and never took a dime of profit from it, all of the proceeds went to charity. Comment by Uncle Ho — February 27, 2008 @ 11:04 am

Thanks Uncle Ho. Cope was one of the Good guys. He created the ubiquitous symbol “the Terrible Towel” and never took a dime of profit from it, all of the proceeds went to charity.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281213 Marie Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:24:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281213 #103, Uncle Ho, you are absolutely right. When Dems cried foul at the fundamentalists using their churches as political arenas, they were quickly shouted down as "godless" and other pejoratives. We continue to forget: when Rethugs sh*t, it doesn't stink. #103, Uncle Ho, you are absolutely right. When Dems cried foul at the fundamentalists using their churches as political arenas, they were quickly shouted down as “godless” and other pejoratives.

We continue to forget: when Rethugs sh*t, it doesn’t stink.

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4281210 Shayne Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:22:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/02/27/thinkfast-february-27-2008/#comment-4281210 How often to you figure gone_goofy got beat up in midlle school? Once a week? Usually I don't approve of violence but in goofy's case I'd make an exception. How often to you figure gone_goofy got beat up in midlle school? Once a week? Usually I don’t approve of violence but in goofy’s case I’d make an exception.

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