The GOP promised to allow telecoms to spy on every single American without cause or warrant in return for massive bribes, and the money hasn’t come through.

Hey, AT&T! Make with the payola, already, or the GOP might actually uphold the US Constitution again!

I totally agree with you katy. Take the words written here and make “Bush” into “Obama” and put it on Redstate.com. Can you imagine the furor that would happen?

The telcoms don’t have that as a defense because they, in fact, started wiretapping and spying on us just weeks after Bush took office. That was long before 911.

I don’t.

Point well taken.
I will in the future keep my opinions on what should be done to
these people to myself.

it’s just really offensive to see such sentiments stated
on a progressive blog… fodder for the righties, ya know…

you don’t want to know what my mind can conjure up as to what i’d like to see done to these criminals… and i sure wouldn’t publish it…

just sayin’…

One of the defining characteristics to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it’s own people; TYRANNY. Thus The Fourth Amendment.

R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…

And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When Americans and America lose that Right and freedom, who wins?

Now that, Mr. President, is what is patently unfair…

p.s.
Warrantless is NOT legal even if the president thinks it is.

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I know a drunk when I see one.

What a p*ss poor excuse for a human being, let a POTUS.

If it was LEGAL, like he’s claiming, why do the telecomms need RETROACTIVE immunity?

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So I gather Bush is refusing to sit down and talk w/ himself, too…

The president also repeated his objection to sitting down with leaders of countries such as Iran and Cuba, nations accused of abusing human rights and stifling democracy.

The Bush administration has accused China, a major U.S. trade partner, of human rights abuses. Bush didn’t elaborate on what issues he might bring up.

Bush Calls Surveillance Bill an ‘Urgent Priority’
New York Times – 39 minutes ago
By DAVID STOUT and BRIAN KNOWLTON WASHINGTON – Using some of his toughest language in weeks, President Bush prodded Congress on Thursday to pass his preferred version of surveillance legislation, asserting that every day of delay could put the country …
Bush will press for action on surveillance bill CNN

the NYT does nothing to contradict duby’s lies, except to guote
harry reid’s prepared statement:

“If the President had not rejected an extension of current law and refused to negotiate with Congress, it is very likely that the new FISA bill could already be law today,” the senator said, using the acronym for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. “It is disingenuous for the president to claim the country is less safe when he is the one responsible for holding up the legislative process.”

at least the CNN report has a bit of real journalism involved:

Democrats have said that the existing 1978 law gives the government all the authority it needs to carry out surveillance and that passage of the final bill can wait until the House and Senate reconcile their differences.

Both the House and Senate versions of the bill would allow U.S. intelligence to tap into phone and Internet traffic overseas without obtaining a judge’s warrant, even if the calls were routed through communications centers in the United States.

2 sentences… thanks for that…

His real concern is the danger of getting this program out in open court, where he and his corrupt cabal would be exposed.