McCain ‘Very Honored’ By Support Of Pastor Preaching ‘End-Time Confrontation With Iran’
McCain ‘Very Honored’ By Support Of Pastor Preaching ‘End-Time Confrontation With Iran’
Yesterday, hard-line conservative Pastor John Hagee, founder of Christians United for Israel, endorsed John McCain. Hagee said that McCain “is a man of principle, [who] does not stand boldly on both sides of any issue.” McCain, who had been courting the endorsement for over a year, said that he was “very honored by Pastor John Hagee’s endorsement.”
Demonstrating how wildly out of the American religious and political mainstream Hagee’s views are, McCain’s acceptance of Hagee’s endorsement was condemned today by conservative William Donohue, president of the Catholic League. Calling Hagee a “bigot,” Donahue said the right-wing pastor has waged “an unrelenting war against the Catholic Church” by “calling it ‘The Great Whore,’ an ‘apostate church,’ the ‘anti-Christ,’ and a ‘false cult system.’”
Hagee holds many other radical beliefs. In a 2006 address to CUFI, Hagee declared:
The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West… a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ.
Speaking to the 2007 AIPAC conference, Hagee compared supporters of a two-state solution in the Middle East to Nazis. Hagee also echoed right-wing Israeli politician Binyamin Netanyahu, telling the audience that “Iran is Germany and Ahmadinejad is the new Hitler.”
Paging Tim Russert: Someone should ask John McCain if, unlike Hagee, he supports a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine, and whether he believes that a military strike against Iran would “fulfill God’s plan for…a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation” as Hagee does.
UPDATE: Faith in Public Life has more.
UPDATE II: Hagee’s tv show, “John Hagee Today,” is also broadcast on Cornerstone Television. In 1999, McCain wrote to the FCC on behalf of campaign contributor Lowell “Bud” Paxson, urging a deal that would have made $17.5 million for Cornerstone.
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Hagee said that McCain “is a man of principle, [who] does not stand boldly on both sides of any issue.â€
Right, he just stands boldly on one side, and then the other, and then back again….
February 28th, 2008 at 4:08 pmIf McCain is elected, it WILL be the “End Time”…he’ll start World War 3.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:11 pmHagee is a loose cannon not unlike the whole PNAC bunch. I can see why he would be supporting McCain — he’s just the kind of guy who can deliver on Hagee’s “end-times” prophecy.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:11 pmthis guy is the ultimate in subversive intentions…
February 28th, 2008 at 4:12 pmmore scary than … no, just AS scary as cheeeney…
“Iran is Germany and Ahmadinejad is the new Hitler.â€
Does this mean Hitler was not the commander of Germany’s armed forces?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:13 pmMcCain, like his mentor, GW Bush, firmly stands on the WRONG side of pretty much every significant issue.
Except of course on minor issues such as economic policy to which he admits he should have paid more attention.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:13 pmNice… Hagee and Donohue tearing into each other.
Pass the popcorn…
February 28th, 2008 at 4:14 pmi said it on an earlier post - these fu(kers are REALLY desperate!
what’s next? a mccain endorsement from bozo the clown?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:14 pmWow, it sounds like Pastor John Hagee is a lot like Farrakan in his inflammatory speech. I wonder if John McCain is going to repudiate him the way Obama repudiates Farrakan? Not likely.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:15 pmi said it on an earlier post - these fu(kers are REALLY desperate!
what’s next? a mccain endorsement from bozo the clown?
Comment by LividLib
I would rather vote for Bozo…
February 28th, 2008 at 4:16 pmAIPAC, PNAC, Hagee, McCainiac are all consumed with World domination…
by Israel.
WTF? I’ve seen this piece of work on CBN, the ‘terrist network’. This guy could lay claim to be the world’s biggest turd, enamored in scripture.
While everyone’s whispering about Obama’s faith, what is McCain? Or does he flip flop religion like politics?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:17 pma mccain endorsement from bozo the clown?
Bozo’s daddy — George H.W. Bu$h — has already endorsed McLame. We’re still waiting to hear from Bozo.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:17 pmAnd my view of God may differ (slightly) from that of Hagee, but I’m pretty confident that if you take steps intended to bring on the “End Times”, it won’t work.
I think, even if God had planned to make, say Jan 21, 2009 the Apocalypse, if some stupid human tried to deliberately fulfill some destructive prophesy on that day, God would say, “all right, that does it! No Apocalypse today. You’ll just have to sit and wait a few more centuries, you’re so anxious.”
February 28th, 2008 at 4:17 pmHagee is just plain nucking futs.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:18 pmDamn! Where is a napalm strike when you need one?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:21 pmThe general population has realized by now a man of principle does not mean raping, murdering, blowing up, burning off skin and torturing others for power, money and oil. These actions and desires will bring the repugs and the so called moral majority down to the bottom of the sewer where they belong.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:21 pmWell, I guess ol’ Hagee ISN’T one of those “agents of intolerance” then.
OK. Nice to know.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:25 pmThese End Times folks need treatment.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:25 pmWow. William Donohue calling Hagee a “bigot”…?
The Pot calling the Kettle black fer shure. Yikes.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:26 pmI think McJowls is gonna get blown out this November worse than LBJ did to Goldwater in ‘64.
He’s toast. Burned beyond recognition. Crispy critters.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:26 pmReligious people are the most dangerous people in the world.
Anyone who can believe what they believe is not using their brain.
The Magical Invisible Faerie in the Sky does not exist, never has, never will, it is a story made up by ancient people to explain what they did not understand, and many used it to control the population, as in, he is invisible and does nothing to show that he exists so you have to just believe us.
Yeah right, and I have a bridge to sell you.
Just read some of Rapture Ready Dayrll and you will get the picture of loons they are.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pmHagee said the same thing about Iraq being the end time trigger. Doesnt he listen to Greenspan who said its largely about oil?
Hagee thinks he wil be saved by helping to foment war, hes very wrong.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pmThis is the obvious winner in the “Most Stupid Reasons to Go to War” category.
Runners-up:
* They might be making nuclear bombs. According to our intelligence, they’ve quit doing that, but we don’t believe them so we’re going to bomb them anyway.
* We can’t get the radical Muslim extremist we’re after, so we’re going to go after a different one we don’t like, even though he’s not particularly religious. We’re counting on our people not knowing the difference.
* We think this country has weapons of mass destruction, even though inspectors have been unable to find them. We’re going to bomb them anyway.
* Our oil habit has become such that we must find more of it at cheap prices. Therefore, we must invade oil-rich countries, install puppet governments that will do our bidding, and get the oil at a cheap price.
AND THE WINNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
“The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West… a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ.”
The Rapture as justification for war. I don’t think anything can top that.
It seems to me that if the Rapture is God’s plan (and as a Christian, I believe this is so), that God might take a dim view to our messing with it and attempting to hasten it. God’s plan will take place in God’s time. In the meantime, we must live the way God wants us to, which means not bombing each other, exercising responsible stewardship of the earth, etc.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pmThese people (for lack of a better word) make me sick to my stomach. If it were anyone else (other than someone calling themself a Christian) of any other religion they would be vilified. Barack Obama can and probably rip McCain a new butthole over crap like this when they debate.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pmThe term Christian infers ‘Christ-like’. As in leading a Jesus Christ influenced existence. None of these pseudo-christians are anything close. They are sick, bent on control to satisfy their self serving needs.
Lets just say, for instance, that he succeeds in getting McCain elected and gets him to start his glorious war, what will he do after all is said and done and Hagee realizes he hasn’t floated up into the sky and all he accomplished is murder and destruction? All for his and other demented likeminded peoples whimsical fantasy. Or nightmare.
I think McJowls is gonna get blown out this November worse than LBJ did to Goldwater in ‘64.
He’s toast. Burned beyond recognition. Crispy critters.
Comment by Uncle Ho — February 28, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
(And the effectiveness of caging lists, buggy voting machines, and disenfranchisement by partisan election boards)
February 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pmThe Hagees in the world spout about how they are united for Israel when if fact they see 2/3 of the Jewish people dying in this ‘end time’ scenario.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:29 pmWow. William Donohue calling Hagee a “bigotâ€â€¦?
The Pot calling the Kettle black fer shure. Yikes.
Comment by Leftside Annie — February 28, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
Yeah, that got a chuckle out of me as well.
I think the “Great Whore” is the whole organized “Christian” religion. More innocent blood has been shed by them than any other force in the world.
And it shows no sign of slowing it’s bloodlust.
Who do we kill for Jesus today?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:30 pmHagee said that McCain “is a man of principle, [who] does not stand boldly on both sides of any issue.â€
BWAGAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:31 pmA vote for McCain is a vote for WW3 and the end of the world as we know it?
Now that’s an endorsement!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:31 pmI’m afraid that Pastor Hagee is in for a very rude awakening if the rapture should occur before he sheds his mortal coil. He’ll be stuck down here with the rest of us heathens.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:32 pmUnHoly crap! The wattle on that phony baloney preacher would make any rooster proud!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:32 pmNever underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
(And the effectiveness of caging lists, buggy voting machines, and disenfranchisement by partisan election boards)
Comment by toasterhead
The bolded part is what scares me the worst - about half of this country voted for Bush…TWICE!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:32 pmHagee beleives global warming studies are the works of Satan.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:33 pmMethinks that if this is indeed the end time, McCain qualifies as the Whore of Babylon with the way he’s selling out all he claimed to believe in just to try and get elected.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:33 pmNice… Hagee and Donohue tearing into each other.
Pass the popcorn…
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
Damn you, you camelid. Beat me to it.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pmCunningham: ‘Hussein is a Hack’
Hagee: “McCain “is a man of principle, [who] stands boldly on both sides of any issue.â€
When religion equates to war, God becomes irrelevant. Zz
February 28th, 2008 at 4:36 pmThese “end time Christians” are more like the Zealots than Christ, preferring to kill everyone to bring about God’s kingdom rather than love everyone into it. They really should read the Bible they claim to follow. I don’t see anywhere in mine where Christians are supposed to bring about the end times, just be prepared for it.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:37 pmArmageddon happened in 70 AD Hagee, ya ninnie, Nero was 666, the Anti-Christ.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:37 pmNever underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.
(And the effectiveness of caging lists, buggy voting machines, and disenfranchisement by partisan election boards)
Comment by toasterhead — February 28, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
And… Ralph Nader.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pmJohn McCain would sell his 90 something year old mother to a brothel in Nevada if he thought it would help him gain the presidency.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pmArmageddon happened in 70 AD Hagee, ya ninnie, Nero was 666, the Anti-Christ.
Comment by Xisithrus — February 28, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Actually, some new scrolls archaeologists found in Egypt indicate that the Mark of the Beast may actually be 616, not 666.
Death metal is going to have to do a lot of rerecording.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:39 pmMany Scholars believe that 666 refers to a Roman Emperor such as Nero[8] (whose name, written in Aramaic, was valued at 666, using the Hebrew numerology of gematria, a manner of speaking against the emperor without the Roman authorities knowing). -Wikipedia
February 28th, 2008 at 4:39 pmFirst off, TP, please ban the individual, whom is sincerely trying to impersonate me. Second, I love Pastor Hagee, but I do not understand why he’s endorsing McChange. President-Elect Huckabee is in God’s plan. Also, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, who knows that God’s return is nigh. William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:39 pmAnd… Ralph Nader.
Comment by Mr. Evil — February 28, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
If the superdelegates give the nomination to Hillary, Nader might get a lot of votes. Just sayin…
February 28th, 2008 at 4:40 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
Yes toasterhead, I have read that.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:41 pmCaption:
February 28th, 2008 at 4:42 pm‘My God is badder than your God’
First off, TP, please ban the individual, whom is sincerely trying to impersonate me. Second, I love Pastor Hagee, but I do not understand why he’s endorsing McChange. President-Elect Huckabee is in God’s plan. Also, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, who knows that God’s return is nigh. William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Daryll, you told us you were now rapture_ready. Please make up your mind.
And, no, Hagee is not a true man of God, he’s a vicious bigot.
Is Donohue confused about Hagee’s faith, or his own? You’re not making any sense.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:42 pmFrom the looks of McBush, he’ll be lucky to live until November . .
Isn’t he like . . . 93 or something ?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:43 pmDaryll ,
You certainly have a right to your Biblical opinions,
But I’d rather not elect someone that will rammed those opinions down my throat.
Thanks!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:43 pmIsn’t he like . . . 93 or something ? -Keith H
Actually, he’s only 28, but marrying a beer heiress will do strange things…
February 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmAlso, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, -Daryll
Im not bashing him simply pointing out that hes wrong. He says hes a man of GOD, and if he was he should be preaching peace not fomenting war/death.
As for bashing what do you call his remarks about the catholic church?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmGosh. I had no idea that you had to kill a zillion people to get into Heaven these days.
Um, maybe Heaven ain’t a place I want to go…yanno?
Jesus probably wouldn’t want to go there, either, if that’s what it takes to get in.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:45 pmHagee likes him some Haggard.
On weekends.
In Denver.
On Meth.
Any other questions, Daryll?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:46 pmFirst off, TP, please ban the individual, whom is sincerely trying to impersonate me. Second, I love Pastor Hagee, but I do not understand why he’s endorsing McChange. President-Elect Huckabee is in God’s plan. Also, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, who knows that God’s return is nigh. William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Religion 101: First off God doesn’t return, supposedly he’s always been here. Jesus is the one who’s been vacationing up in heaven or wherever. You’re more twisted than a Cub Scout’s first knot.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:46 pmPastor Hagee is a man of death and destruction, a man of Satan, a man of Evil. In other words, a republican.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:48 pmLet’s get something straight!
http://www.yabbadabbahubbado.com
February 28th, 2008 at 4:49 pmHow’s that “Judge Not” campaign goin’ for ya, Darryl?
William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Not so good, it looks like.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:49 pmO/T:
Toasterhead, please explain to me why forced servitude, aka SLAVERY is a- ok for you as practiced in the Middle East because America does it again.
And why in your “Jihadosphere ” it’s a-ok that Al Jazeera give no voice to those people or that practice?
Thanks man!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pmAnyone as rigid and zealous and self-righteous as Hagee has to be a pervert. I’d be willing to bet there’s some sick kiddie porn on his computer somewhere. Or maybe he does do the Haggard,
On weekends,
with Larry Craig,
Any restroom available,
Any city.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:52 pmAlso, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, who knows that God’s return is nigh.
Comment by Daryll
Daryll, please get some help - for your own sake. The man you refer to as a “true man of God” is not. If there is a God “IF”, he/she would not bring Hagee into the Kingdom of God.
Hagee spews bigoted and racists remarks about other children of God. So to you, if Hagee insults black people or the citizens of New Orleans, that is ok? But, those poeple are children of YOUR GOD! Does God now take his orders from nutjobs like Hagee and Robertson? I thought God was an all knowing and all loving God - ya know, turn the other cheek and stuff lie that. A bigoted self-appointed ‘paster’ can command God’s attention, but the citizens of New Orleans cannot?
So help me to understand your God. He /she is ok with a mortal men (Hagee) insulting and discriminating against other children of God?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:53 pmPresident-Elect Huckabee is in God’s plan. Also, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, who knows that God’s return is nigh. William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Huckabee is done, period. No, we have a secular right to bash Hagee if he puts himself into the political arena and, further, as a Christian I have a right and duty to confront his false ministry. The Bible says no man, nor Jesus himself for that matter, knows when the end is. The Bible does not suggest that Christians should bring about the end times and no political leader has any right to attempt to end the world to advance his religious wishes.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:54 pmThe United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West… a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ.
Many conservative Christians disagree with this view.
While the Bible does say, in the Old Testament I believe, that one who blesses Israel will be blessed by God, bitblt has difficulty seeing that the Bible puts the U.S. in special position in the matter of Israel’s continued existence.
In actuality the U.S. may have a special position in the continued existence of Israel, but bitblt doesn’t see that in the Bible.
There is also the question of whether or not modern secular Israel is the same as the ancient theocratic Israel.
Further, many Bible students believe that the New Testament book of Revelation – the largest source of New Testament prophecies – suggests that the U.S. will become a bit player on the international stage.
The lack of influence from a one-time superpower will probably come about because of the cultural confusion in the U.S. This assessment, of course, is bitblt’s opinion.
So what is the answer to this question? Is the U.S., as a nation, worth preserving?
There is no scripture known to bitblt that suggest the U.S. has a responsibility to cause the end times scenario to commence.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pmHow’s that “Judge Not†campaign goin’ for ya, Darryl?
William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Not so good, it looks like.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
Per the survival scroll, I am right.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:56 pmAlso, libs, stop bashing Pastor Hagee. He is a true man of God, who knows that God’s return is nigh. William Donahoe is confused about his faith.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
February 28th, 2008 at 4:56 pmHow can a true man of God endorse a war mongering candidate? Last I heard, murder, torture and rape were against God’s law…. and very high upon the list…. war mongering religious right = hypocrisy.
So Saint D, you got a contract out for McCain on the last day of the Repuglycan convention?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:57 pmPer the survival scroll , I am right.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Isn’t that what I do with my mouse wheel when I see one of Daryll’s posts?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:58 pmHuckabee is done, period. No, we have a secular right to bash Hagee if he puts himself into the political arena and, further, as a Christian I have a right and duty to confront his false ministry. The Bible says no man, nor Jesus himself for that matter, knows when the end is. The Bible does not suggest that Christians should bring about the end times and no political leader has any right to attempt to end the world to advance his religious wishes.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — February 28, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
Anything can happen to alter John McCain’s plan to become President. Was Romney’s supension of his campaign a coincidence? No, it was in God’s plan. Also, your comment regarding the end time, you cannot defeat the inevitable.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:58 pmSecond off, TP, please ban the troll who calls itself “Daryll”, whom is sincerely trying to impersonate a human being.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:59 pmA Man met another , who was handsome , intelligent, and elegant. He asked him who he was.
The other said, ” I am the Devil.”
“But you cannot be,” said the first man, “for the Devil is Evil and Ugly.”
“My friend,” said Satan, “you have been listening to my Detractors.”
Idries Shah
February 28th, 2008 at 5:00 pmPeople say all the time, religion doesn’t make sense. I disagree. I think it makes lots of cents - all tax free. From a business stand point, that makes perfect sense.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pmHuckabee is done, period. No, we have a secular right to bash Hagee if he puts himself into the political arena and, further, as a Christian I have a right and duty to confront his false ministry. The Bible says no man, nor Jesus himself for that matter, knows when the end is. The Bible does not suggest that Christians should bring about the end times and no political leader has any right to attempt to end the world to advance his religious wishes.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — February 28, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
Israel is our spiritual time piece.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pmWill Tim Russert question MacCain if he will reject or denounce Hagee’s racial statements against Arab and Moslem Americans?
Will Russert asks McCain about Hagees statements just like when he asked Obama about L. Farrakhan statements against Jews, in the same way and fashion that Obama was asked? Although Obama neither asked nor was endorsed by Farrakhan.
Why Hagee has a free ride to attack people?
Hagee is enjoying these visits from Republican candidates to his Cornerstone Church all coming to lick his feet in San Antonio.
He became the Mecca for these candidates..
Last month he was visited by Huckabee, few years ago Senator Elizabeth Dole,when she ran for president, came to San Antonio to seek his blessings,yesterday he was visited by McCain…
Hagee once claimed he got 50 million supporters, that he can use to influence the vote, which I doubt he even has 1/20th of this.
Politicians’ visits gives Hagee a lift and gives him the image that he always sought.
McCain is so desperate these days that he will go anywhere if there is a sign of help he can get, it does not matter from who or where.
Once McCain denounced these people like Hagee in year 2000; he denoucned Farrakhan and these Evangelical preachers…
Surprise , McCain is hugging them now in 2008.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pmPer the survival scroll, I am right.
This idiot troll is really gullible. Anyone want to bet if it stops tithing a large part of it’s income to it’s church, that it’s pastor would no longer allow it to be part of the “rapture”.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:02 pmWhy Hagee has a free ride to attack people?
Because he is a Republican.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:03 pmPer the survival scroll , I am right.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Isn’t that what I do with my mouse wheel when I see one of Daryll’s posts?
Comment by RUCerious — February 28, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
A Tweety “Hah!” to you, RUC! That was clever.
Smiles.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pmPer the survival scroll, I am right.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Still don’t get the whole “Judge not, lest ye be judged” concept, huh?
Ah, well, it was only in the Sermon on the Mount. It’s not like Jesus really meant it or anything.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pmDaryll, please get some help - for your own sake. The man you refer to as a “true man of God†is not. If there is a God “IFâ€, he/she would not bring Hagee into the Kingdom of God.
And IF there is a god, I doubt that he/she will be allowing Daryll into the Kingdom of God.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pmIsrael is our spiritual time piece.
Comment by Daryll
That is a strange comment coming from you. My Mom’s side of the family are all devout Orthodox Jews from Haifa, and I have never heard anyone in her family say anything close to what you wrote.
I’m not trying to be a jerk, I just don’t understand why fundies here in America say things for the Jews, that the Jews never say for themselves.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pmDoes anyone else find it a bit, well, pretentious when a troll speaks of itself in the third-person?
Should that be “third-troll” in this case?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pmThis idiot troll is really gullible. Anyone want to bet if it stops tithing a large part of it’s income to it’s church, that it’s pastor would no longer allow it to be part of the “raptureâ€.
Comment by bilbobaggins — February 28, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Pastor Jennings understands that tithing is not a financial issue, it can also be completed by working for God using the talents given.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pmI feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan who has less integrity than the sole of my shoe
February 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pmPer the survival scroll, I am right.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Per the toilet roll, you are wrong.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:09 pmPastor Jennings understands that tithing is not a financial issue, it can also be completed by working for God using the talents given.
Comment by Daryll
This must mean that Daryll services his pastor on a regular basis. Thanks for letting us know how you pay your pastor troll.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pmLouis Farrakhan did bring a lot of black men together to focus on family values.
Not that I’m a fan, but that sounds laudable to me.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pmStill don’t get the whole “Judge not, lest ye be judged†concept, huh?
Ah, well, it was only in the Sermon on the Mount. It’s not like Jesus really meant it or anything.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
Hell is real. Be careful about making implications of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pmI feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan
More lies from the desperightards:
Obama’s top campaign aide, David Axelrod, points out, Obama often has said that he and his minister sometimes disagree. Farrakhan, Axelrod told me, is one of those instances.
LINK
February 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pmComment by Daryll
Did the adult-diaper party end early?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:12 pmComment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Still don’t get the whole “Judge not, lest ye be judged†concept, huh?
Ah, well, it was only in the Sermon on the Mount. It’s not like Jesus really meant it or anything.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
Daryll cherrypicks the parts of scripture that fit his agenda. Now he’s promising a swiftboating of McCain so he can get Chuckleberry as the nominee. Basically, Daryll believes everything his pastor tells him until the next time his pastor tells him something and so on and so on.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:12 pmI feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan who has less integrity than the sole of my shoe
Oh boy, we have another idiot troll. Maybe this idiot troll can link to something that says that Obama “accepts the support” of Farrakhan. Of course the link can’t be to any of the right winger sites because they all lie. Obama repudiated Farrakhan’s words and even denounced him on national tv in front of millions of people a couple of nights ago. I was one of the millions and I believe my eyes before I would believe anything a right wing troll has to say.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pmadd:
“I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan,” Obama said in the statement.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pmIf you have never heard of John Hagee you need ti check him out;
http://www.youtube.com/ results?search_query=hagee&search_type=
February 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pmHell is real. Be careful about making implications of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Oh, I’m scared. What’s he going to do, smite me?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pmAh, well, it was only in the Sermon on the Mount. It’s not like Jesus really meant it or anything.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
What makes you think He meant it the way you understand it?
Exactly how do you understand it? Do you think it was meant to silence Christians?
What follows the words you paraphrase?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pmHell is real. Be careful about making implications of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Correction - your lord and savior. The rest of us don’t need one. Only sinners do.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pmAlso, your comment regarding the end time, you cannot defeat the inevitable.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
This is absolutely true. In approximately five billion years the Sun will run out of hydrogen and turn into a Red Giant, expanding beyond the orbit of Venus if not farther. If the Earth is not swallowed up by the dying star, it will certainly be incinerated and all life on it will expire. This is God’s plan, and it is indeed inevitable.
I feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan who has less integrity than the sole of my shoe
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
Barack Hussein Obama did no such thing. He denounced Farrakhan, in fact. Quit lying.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pmThinkBalanced you also have to realize, the black or brown experience may be a little different than for us lillywhite folks.
I don’t know about you, but it’s been a pretty easy ride.
I must be liberal because I have empathy for others.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pmDoes anyone else find it a bit, well, pretentious when a troll speaks of itself in the third-person?
Should that be “third-troll†in this case?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
Don’t sugarcoat it ralph, lilbit sounds downright delusional. But then when you compare him to Daryll he’s almost normal.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:15 pmPastor Jennings understands that tithing is not a financial issue, it can also be completed by working for God using the talents given.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
Sorry Daryll but acting like a raving loon is not a “talent”.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:16 pmHmm. I google survival scroll and…
Kuon for PS2 on Gamerhelp.comRight next to the Manor Map is Survival Scroll 2. Talk to Doryo and he will tell you to go on and look for more clues. Exit the Quarters. …
February 28th, 2008 at 5:16 pmhttp://www.gamerhelp.com/ps2/Kuon/108560.shtml -
I feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan who has less integrity than the sole of my shoe
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
Only Obama DID NOT accept the support of Farrakhan, assh*le. Maybe if you watched something besides Fox News you would know that.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pmFirst of all, Bilbo, your use of the word “troll” to define any term that is counter to your ThinkProtected bubble beliefs speaks volumes to your close-mindedness. Why not engage others on their views instead of trying to marginalize them?
Secondly, I do not deny that Obama rejected Farrakhan’s support–but his intentions in doing so are simply to gain the support of Jewish donors (hence, we have seen his motion from the Palestinian cause to the Israeli). It’s sort of like the hypocrisy of ThinkProgress–why don’t you think that the issue of Israel is similiar to the same type of Far Left attacks (except on the comment boards) that other foreign policy issues are on this blog?
It’s because CAP is funded heavily by Jews. Quite a cowardly stance, if you ask me.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pmCould it be that Pastor Jennings is really running an elaborate scam derived from the PS2 Kuon game?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pmFox Noise will go to FULL SMEAR mode with Rove in charge of (propaganda) programming.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pmSecondly, I do not deny that Obama rejected Farrakhan’s support–but his intentions in doing so are simply to gain the support of Jewish donors
Now wait a minute. First you bash him, then question his motives when he does what you ask?
Bah.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:22 pmSecondly, I do not deny that Obama rejected Farrakhan’s support–but his intentions in doing so are simply to gain the support of Jewish donors (hence, we have seen his motion from the Palestinian cause to the Israeli). It’s sort of like the hypocrisy of ThinkProgress–why don’t you think that the issue of Israel is similiar to the same type of Far Left attacks (except on the comment boards) that other foreign policy issues are on this blog?
It’s because CAP is funded heavily by Jews. Quite a cowardly stance, if you ask me.
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
First you say he accepted it now you say he rejected it but …
Why don’t you go Cheney yourself.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:22 pmHey Daryll, I just talked with God and I have some updates for you according to his plan. Our mission here is to progress and to succeed. He said that you, on the other hand, will soon be involved with Pastor Hagee because you are a dupe. Or was it dope. Hmmm… must have been a bad connection. I’ll call God back and ask if he can here me now and get clarification. I’ll get back to you.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:22 pmoops on 103. typo, hear instead of here.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pmIt’s because CAP is funded heavily by Jews. Quite a cowardly stance, if you ask me.
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Flag this troll, he’s more of a Nazi than most of them.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pmHagee is a complete nutcase who wants nothing more than an apocalyptic
February 28th, 2008 at 5:25 pmconfrontation with Iran in order to fulfill his fanatical end times vision.
Be afraid…be very afraid.
Survival scroll! That was truly funny. Thanks.
I for one am soooooooo ready for the Rapture. Please Jesus, come down and take these pious goddamn Christians home with you.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pmShayne, I’m a Jew big guy. Stop skirting the issue of CAP’s failure to engage on the Israel topic.
It’s because CAP’s directors support Israel’s integrity and right to exist as a sovereign nation, as do I.
Sorry to bring this up if you weren’t aware of it before. Feel duped?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:29 pmWelcome back Daryll! You da man!
February 28th, 2008 at 5:30 pmShayne, I’m a Jew big guy. Stop skirting the issue of CAP’s failure to engage on the Israel topic.
It’s because CAP’s directors support Israel’s integrity and right to exist as a sovereign nation, as do I.
Sorry to bring this up if you weren’t aware of it before. Feel duped?
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
Sorry you lying sack of crap. Nobody who is Jewish says “I am a Jew.” They say I’m Jewish. And I don’t work for CAP dumbass.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:32 pmI feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan who has less integrity than the sole of my shoe
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @
February 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm5:08 pm
Clearly you have not paid attention or you would know that statement is entirely false.
If you are a plant for Hillary let me remind you:
1. Even with all her so called experience SHE voted to go to war
2. Hillary has supported NAFYA and was the first lady while Bill sighed it into law
3. Hillary was first lady when Bill dereg the telecoms
4. Hillary voted AGASINST a ban on land mine clean up
5. Hillary voted for the Kyle/LIEberman bill, a bill calling the Iranian Guard terrorist.
Welcome back Daryll! You da man!
Comment by dbadass
Actually, I did miss his - *cough, *cough - unique brand of humor.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pmI feel similarly shocked to see Obama accept the support of the anti-Semitic, misognynistic bigot Louis Farrakhan who has less integrity than the sole of my shoe
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
Secondly, I do not deny that Obama rejected Farrakhan’s support–but his intentions in doing so are simply to gain the support of Jewish donors (hence, we have seen his motion from the Palestinian cause to the Israeli).
It’s because CAP is funded heavily by Jews. Quite a cowardly stance, if you ask me.
Comment by ThinkBalanced — February 28, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
How did you go from anti-anti-Semitic bigot to anti-Semitic bigot in just two posts?
Now there has been some well-deserved criticism of Barack Little Beauty Obama lately on his recent shift from supporter of Palestinians to supporter of Israel. It’s an unfortunate product of the power of the Israel lobby in this country, and I do hope that after his election we will see a shift back to a more even-handed approach to Middle East peace.
However, it is a fallacy to assume that all Jews support Israel 100% and therefore are the cause of this political shift. Jews are just as politically-diverse as Christians and Muslims, and there are many who oppose Israeli occupation and collective punishment.
Let’s not fight stereotypes and bigotry with stereotypes and bigotry.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pmHell is real. Be careful about making implications of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Thanks for the heads-up, D. By the way, I wasn’t making implications. I was making inferences from your behavior. The way you casually dismiss the tenets of your professed faith makes me think that you believe Jesus didn’t really mean all the things he said. The alternative is not so good for you.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pmImbalanced is a Jew? Sorry to hear that. That explains the insane rants against Obama. Obama will try to extricate the US from Iraq.
BTW Shayne is not a big guy at all.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:35 pmNo body describes themselves as a ‘Jew big guy’ ~ except a whacko troll.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pmThinkBalanced, don’t you think Lewis Farrakhan bringing together a million black men to focus on family values was a good thing?
And don’t you think that a person of color may experience a different America than say, a lillywhite Republican?
Thanks for your answer!
February 28th, 2008 at 5:42 pmSecondly, I do not deny that Obama rejected Farrakhan’s support–but his intentions in doing so are simply to gain the support of Jewish donors (hence, we have seen his motion from the Palestinian cause to the Israeli).
Comment by ThinkBalanced
Wow, we have a troll who knows exactly what Obama is thinking and what he intended. Are we all impressed. NOT!
February 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pmExactly how do you understand it? Do you think it was meant to silence Christians?
What follows the words you paraphrase?
Comment by bitblt — February 28, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
ralph was addressing Daryll, but since bitbutt asks, ralph believes that Jesus meant that we must be ever mindful that our own judgments (which are necessary if we are to function on this earth) are always fallible, and that we should not presume to know God’s will.
Daryll presumes to know God’s will and has stated such dozens of times on this board. Daryll constantly makes pronouncements about the faith of others and condemns them for it.
ralph finds it fascinating that one who preaches so loudly about his faith can so easily contradict important tenets of it.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pmI support Israel’s integrity , and right to exist as a sovereign nation…ON THEIR SIDE of the BORDER. When Israel built settlements on disputed, occupied land, they lost the Moral Highground.
And if the Palestinians had followed trhe playbook of Martin L. King and Nelson Mandella…they would HAVE a Palestinian State , Long Ago.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pmI think he meant to say “big gay Jew”, another unfortunate typo.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pmNo body describes themselves as a ‘Jew big guy’ ~ except a whacko troll.
Comment by RUCerious — February 28, 2008 @ 5:40
Correction: “except an evangelical whacko troll.”
February 28th, 2008 at 5:43 pmralph finds it fascinating that one who preaches so loudly about his faith can so easily contradict important tenets of it.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 28, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
Excellent job ralph. Why can’t bitbit be as entertaining as you.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:45 pmShayne, correction noted. Concern trolls are definitely a pain in the Almighty Scriptual Science.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:46 pmDaryll?
http://www.fstdt.com/default.aspx
February 28th, 2008 at 5:51 pmI for one am soooooooo ready for the Rapture. Please Jesus, come down and take these pious goddamn Christians home with you.
Comment by nanlichi
Me too. Can’t it happen tomorrow?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:51 pmI for one am soooooooo ready for the Rapture. Please Jesus, come down and take these pious goddamn Christians home with you.
Comment by nanlichi — February 28, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Take the whole Abrahamic Religion tree, the world would be much more peaceful then, IMHO
February 28th, 2008 at 5:52 pmSomebody go back and get a shitload o’ Rapture Buses!
February 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pmNow that we have a church pastor endorsing McCain, the IRS will of course have the same treatment of this church that they have with Obama’s church, right? The IRS will be opening an investigation any day now, right? Right?
*crickets*
And wow. William Donahue calling anyone else a bigot is as ironic as one can get.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pmComment by bilbobaggins — February 28, 2008 @ 5:51 pm
Can I have your car?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:59 pmHagee is a true man of God-
comment by Daryll
Then his God must be Satan himself.
I NEVER read ANYWHERE in the Bible where Jesus told his followers to go out and kill. I missed that part Daryll, point out WHERE Jesus said to kill your neighbors.
If you can’t, then STFU you sick asswipe!
February 28th, 2008 at 5:59 pmhttp://www.raptureready.com/
February 28th, 2008 at 6:00 pmDaryll,
February 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pmYou have not answered my question….
How can war mongering Christians NOT be called HYPOCRITES?
Not busses, that would make you look cheap. Trains are the Rapture Ready Express.
People get ready
There’s a train a comin’
And sure as hell, Pastor Jennings will be there, palm up, ready to collect.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:12 pmCan I have your car?
Comment by LibertyLover
Since I am not a pious god damned Christian, I won’t be going. I’ll still need my card.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:12 pmstill need my car….sheesh
February 28th, 2008 at 6:13 pmIs John Hagee’s organization (church?) tax exempt?
Maybe the conditions necessary for the Rapture could be redefined, and they could all go now!
February 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pmI think we should wear bandaids with purple hearts drawn on them. Republicans did just that in 2004 to mock John Kerry.
as the marines say; payback is a motherfu(ker
February 28th, 2008 at 6:20 pmWell, on the plus side, if Hagee pisses off William Donohue, he must be doing something right.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pmbandaids with purple hearts
Most excellent Uncle Ho
February 28th, 2008 at 6:24 pmI am selling franchises for the Rapture Realty, any takers?
We buy the houses from the Rapture Ready folks for a fraction of the value and let them live in them for however long they think it will take for Jesus to show up. They call it up front, of course.
They get to spend the money in their last days on earth, and after the Rapture, the investors are stuck with a smoldering pile of junk and the Raptured laugh all the way to eternity.
But if Jesus takes a wrong turn, or for whatever reason doesn’t show up at the prescribed time, the investors would get the house and the “all dressed up and nowhere to go” will be living in a van down by the river.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:28 pmHelluvan investment opportunity, nan. Except that most of these bozos live in run down single wide trailers in shitty parts of town. Perhaps one could buy up the whole trailer park, and turn it into a green belt.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:32 pmI think we should wear bandaids with purple hearts drawn on them. Republicans did just that in 2004 to mock John Kerry.
as the marines say; payback is a motherfu(ker
Comment by Uncle Ho — February 28, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
And shirts that say Three Plane McCain, that’s how many he crashed isn’t it?
February 28th, 2008 at 6:47 pmYou’re probably right RUCerious. Why can these sleazy dirtbag preachers get rich of of these idiots but I can’t? Pastor Jennings, what’s your secret?
Just not fair.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:51 pmChristian fundamentalist and Islamic fundamentalist, are sick perversions of their founders teachings.
Both are bent on converting everyone else to their faith or killing them. I would they kill each other off and leave the planet to those of us who want to contribute something positive to our children and grandchildren.
Chris Hedges said it best in The Rise of Christian Fascism:
I can only hope the “reincorporation” starts soon, before it is too late for the rest of us!
February 28th, 2008 at 6:57 pmI say we accomodate these folks. Gather up all the fruit loops who buy into this stuff and ship them all down to the Nevada desert. We suspend nuclear testing juuuuust long enough for one little test. That way they go out like they are proposing we take out the Iranians.
Once we ditch of few of these end timer nut jobs the world can get back to focusing on peace.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:58 pmTossem ~
” I see the light! “………………
February 28th, 2008 at 7:00 pmHagee is as delusional as McCain, Bush, Rice, Larry Craig, Cheney, Phelps and all the suicide bombers that think they are CHOSEN to go to heaven for their actions.
February 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm3 planes? I thought it was 4.
February 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pmHagee is a tool of expansion.
February 28th, 2008 at 7:25 pmChalk this one up in “Pat Robertson for Rudy Giuliani”
I’m crossing fingers for Mac to get a surprise Fred Phelps unholy dirge, I mean endorsement.
February 28th, 2008 at 7:27 pmJohn Hagee is a multi-millionaire televangelist who lives in the wealthiest neighborhood in all of San Antonio: The Dominion.
He’s a divorced mega-church preacher who constantly sells books that kiss the a** of Israel, as well as the coming apocalypse (which of course, never happens).
In short, the man is a loud-mouthed, hypocritical, Reich-wing supporting piece of sh*t, fat little toad. He (as well as the Chimp…and Tom DeLay…..and our governor) are a disgusting stain on the State of Texas.
February 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pmThese End Days Freaks are to the point where they not only hope but, they want to influence a president to start their precious, glorious war so they can stand in praise at the slaughtering of millions of people all the while believing that they will float up into the sky as if they really are more special than everyone else. Well I hope their rapture starts tomorrow so we will finally be rid of them once and for all. These pseudo-christians are a stain to the planet not to mention on human intellect. But whats really sad is that there is a seemingly endless wave of people who give their money to this charlatan whacko so he can continue to scare people shitless. Isn’t it amazing how profitable fear is?
February 28th, 2008 at 9:25 pm154 comments and no one mentioned hagee’s war against the harry potter books?! here’s a choice one:
“As millions of people anticipate the release of the latest Harry Potter book and film, we’re reminded once again of Satan’s ongoing attempt to deceive and destroy. The whole purpose of the Potter books is to desensitize readers and introduce them to the occult.”
i don’t know about bill donohue but the kids of america will never forgive maccain.
February 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pmThat’s a pretty tall order…the U.S. must join Israel in a pre-emptive attack on Iran which would lead to the Rapture and Second Coming of Christ. Can you imagine the Prime Minister of Israel saying, “THIS I GOTTA SEE!”
February 28th, 2008 at 10:55 pmHey…at least McCain isn’t claiming to have spoken directly with Jesus yet…gotta be an improvement over Bush!
Seriously…I have to agree with others who’ve commented…we are entirely too close to living in a theocracy now….if someone like McCain is elected, there will be no stopping the christian right (who are actually neither) from seizing control over the nation. And then….well…God help us!
Rev. Jesse Ranee Decker
February 28th, 2008 at 11:53 pmSomeone should ask John McCain if, unlike Hagee, he supports a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine, and whether he believes that a military strike against Iran would “fulfill God’s plan for…a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation†as Hagee does.
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Good grief…the level of arrogance and self-rationalization among some people on the Religious Right knows no bounds. The Bible very clearly states that nobody knows when Armageddon will take place — but Hagee apparently believes that launching a military strike against Iran will somehow force or manipulate God into making the Rapture happen when Hagee thinks it should.
February 28th, 2008 at 11:55 pmi don’t know about bill donohue but the kids of america will never forgive maccain.
Comment by joe cantwell — February 28, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
That means McCain is against Harry Potter.
Maybe he is against gay wizards too.
OMGZ, this cannot stand!
Prejudice against fictional characters!!
It’s not their fault they are fictional.
Why the evil…. idiot. lmao
Yeah, I knew Hagee was one of freekazoids raving about a Fictional Character in a Fiction Book.
How f-king intelligent is that?
It’s really telling when a fictional book about magic and wizards seems more plausible than the fictional stories told by Hagee to the flock of sheeple that he leads around by the nose.
This idiot keeps making predictions and he is batting a big fat Zero.
In biblical times, he would have been stoned as a false prophet. =P
February 28th, 2008 at 11:55 pm154 comments and no one mentioned Hagee’s war against the Harry Potter books?! Here’s a choice one:
“As millions of people anticipate the release of the latest Harry Potter book and film, we’re reminded once again of Satan’s ongoing attempt to deceive and destroy. The whole purpose of the Potter books is to desensitize readers and introduce them to the occult.â€
i don’t know about Bill Donohue but the kids of America will never forgive McCain. — Joe Cantwell
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Of course, what people like Hagee can’t bear to acknowledge is the fact that books or music or movies by themselves don’t have the power to persuade people to do anything which they don’t on some level already want to do. If something as simple as reading a book or watching a movie can provoke someone into committing what their faith considers to be a sinful act, the fact is that the impulse to stray from his/her faith and commit that act was almost certainly there long before the person read that book or watched that movie — reading the book or watching the movie becomes an equivalent of “the devil made me do it”, an excuse which the person uses in an effort to disavow responsibility for his/her own impulses and behavior. Someone whose personal sense of ethics is strong enough cannot be tempted into violating their principles simply on the basis of reading a book or watching a movie.
If people like Hagee object so much to anything which involves magic, then they probably shouldn’t let their children read Grimm’s Fairy Tales or watch Disney movies like Aladdin either since so many of those stories involve characters who practice magic — yet I’m sure many of them consider stories like Aladdin, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Sword In The Stone, etc. to be perfectly wholesome entertainment.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:01 am.
How very Christian of Pastor John Hagee to wish upon mankind, it’s destruction so that he can summon his god… YES?
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February 29th, 2008 at 1:08 amHell is real. Be careful about making implications of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Comment by Daryll — February 28, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Hell IS REAL and you LIVE IN YOUR OWN HELL of your OWN MAKING, but you’re TOO TARDED to KNOW IT! ROTLF!!
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