On MSNBC’s Live With Dan Abrams last night, Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) said it was okay to “question” Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) patriotism because he doesn’t regularly wear an American flag lapel pin. Kingston claimed that “everybody” in politics “wears them.” Asked by Abrams if he was wearing one, Kingston had to admit he wasn’t, saying, “I will wear one and I have worn one.” Kingston then feigned ignorance about the irony between his criticism of Obama and his own lack of a lapel pin. Watch it:
Abrams also referenced a Time photo of Obama “with his hands down” during the National Anthem. He echoed a right-wing smear, however, by stating that it was taken during the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Oh yeah, if you don’t wear that little pin made in China you’re not a good American.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pmMean while, the GOOP attends to really pressing matters!
Clemens must be crucified!
Obama won’t wear a flag pin!
LOOK! Britney isn’t wearing panties!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:03 pmThe sadest part, was him admitting he just LIES because it DRIVES LIBERALS CRAZY (his words). Pretty sad to see the GOP is stuck at 12 year old socially undeveloped (like the trolls here). Poor little stupid nerd boys!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:03 pmIf the American Population is seriously listening to this idiot, then we are all doomed. What a flippin’ moron he is.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:05 pmWho elected THIS moron?
February 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pmgop=party of hypocrisy, lies, hate and racism. Very simple, and Kingston is the very living proof. Not to mention the stupidity that runs through their ranks.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pmHow did they find such an idiot, to mouth this stuff? I saw him on Mayer, last night, spouting this crap, and nobody was laughing him out of th studio. How do they get people to take him seriously?
This country is SO in a world of hurt!!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:07 pmThat shows very nicely how concerned Republican’ts really are about the important issues of the day.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:07 pmThese guys can’t even tell lies correctly.
What is even worse is that then conservutards will believe and continue to tell the same lies.
Just look at what the idiot trolls here post constantly, GooGoo is a perfect example of what a non-thinking lemming is, but then again I think GooGoo is paid to disrupt this site.
Buck Fush
February 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pmKingston attacks Obama for not wearing a made-in-China flag pin, questioning his Patriotism, while Kingston himself is not even wearing such a pin.
Isn’t that special………
The irony is so thick you can slice it like butter.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pmIt’s actually quite simple here. Discussing lapel pins = not discussing Iraq or the economy.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pmHow can this guy go on national television and criticize Obama for not wearing a pin when he doesn’t have one on himself? Typical GOP hypocrisy.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:11 pmWearing of the flag pin should be mandatory for all pinheads like Kingstongue.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:12 pm#11 Lefty ~ Whoa! Look! Over there! Yes! Right There~! Shiny stuff!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:12 pmThis is like that idiot Hoekstra a few weeks back. The and Steny Hoyer were on some talking head show. Steny was in the studio and Hoekstra was doing a remote from somewhere in OK, or Texas or whereever he’s from and Hoekstra was complaining about how the dems had gone home without passing the telecom immunity bill and how everyone was going to die blah blah blah. When it was Hoyer’s turn he pointed out that he was in DC, along with the rest of the dem leadership from both the house and senate and he asked Hoekstra why HE went home. It was hilarious to watch hoekstra sputter and stammer.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pmThe irony is so thick you can slice it like butter.
Comment by Wayne — February 28, 2008 @ 1:09 pm
Or like a perfectly done BBQ tri-tip!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:13 pmHip- Hip Hypocrisy!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:14 pmKingston wasn’t feigning ignorance. He truly is an intravenous-Kool-Aid moron from Georgia.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:15 pmI couldn’t possibly care less about lapel pins. You don’t need to display a flag to be patriotic.
Comment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
Well, is Kingston one of those fake Republicans you keep talking about GG?
February 28th, 2008 at 1:15 pmThe guy is white and Republican, he don’t need no stinkin’ pin to prove that he’s patriotic.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:15 pmwell, kingston IS getting some mileage out of his stupidity…
February 28th, 2008 at 1:16 pmit started last friday on maher…
well, the “obama/patriotic” thing, that is…
The irony is so thick you can slice it like butter.
Comment by Wayne — February 28, 2008 @ 1:09 pm
Or like a perfectly done BBQ tri-tip!
Comment by RUCerious — February 28, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
There you go, making me hungry…… heh
February 28th, 2008 at 1:17 pmKingston sputtered the same comments on Real Time last week. Pathetic little weasel, he is. This is the guy who said Dems don’t care about families because they expect Congress to work.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:17 pmComment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
Geez, do want to get on Representative Kingston’s bad side?
I mean, he’s an Elected Public Official.
His opinion should carry some weight around here!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:17 pmCome on. Anybody could overlook that thing on the dresser in the morning. Especially after they folder they little thing into that cute little triangle
February 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pm“folded the”
February 28th, 2008 at 1:19 pmI couldn’t possibly care less about lapel pins. You don’t need to display a flag to be patriotic.
Comment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
of course, that’s what passes for patriotism on your side, so you are either lying, or lying. Upholding the Constitution is a good measure of patriotism, and yet you and yours have failed miserably at that. It looks like you are completely unqualified to define patriotism.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:20 pmOoops! Small typo…
That should read: Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Moron)…
There… all better!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:20 pmI couldn’t possibly care less about lapel pins. You don’t need to display a flag to be patriotic.
Comment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
So can I support the troops without one of those obnoxious magnetic ribbons. Just checking as you seem to be playing the role of Patriotism guru
February 28th, 2008 at 1:23 pmThat should read: Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Moron)…
There… all better!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 28, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Ok, confused me there. Isn’t (R ) & Moron redundant?
=)
February 28th, 2008 at 1:24 pmDid some Repuke from GA say something? I really can’t hear them anymore.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:25 pm.
Dear Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA),
Where’s your flag pin. Each time you have ranted in an attempt to disparage Obama’s character for not being Patriotic enough because he won’t won’t wear lapel pins, each time you have not been wearing yours. Can we at least have an honest Representative from the great State of Georgia NOT project his abysmal patriotic flair onto others, for a change? PLEASE?
.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pmWell Kingston might be getting some mileage out of his appearance on Bill Maher, but I for one am so over that show. Bill lets these tools, especially this one, on and never shuts them up. This was the worst episode ever, even worse than when asshat Tony Snow was on and I am done. Of course Tony Snow was on Colbert last night and Colbert was fawning all over him too. It’s sickening.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pmDid some Repuke from GA say something? I really can’t hear them anymore.
Comment by ForTruth — February 28, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
I wish my spam filter would work as well…..
February 28th, 2008 at 1:30 pmOh and GiGi, why don’t you go Cheney yourself, nobody gives a rat’s ass what you care about.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:30 pmSomeone more funny that me should do a “Label PIN” spoof video ala “Animal House” in regards to this silliness.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:32 pmOBAMA WON’T WEAR A FLAG PIN!
Says the no-flag-pin Congressman.
And this makes sense to him. If this now passes for logic without being laughed off the screen, kicked to the side of the road and humiliated into exile then we are so fcuked.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:32 pmI wish Maher had challenged that idiot on Real Time — Abrams was tougher than Bill!!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:35 pmKingston is such a tool, an ignoramus, it is so easy to criticize his hypocrisy and his lies straight from the RNC Talking Points Daily List - at least Abrams thiunks the guy’s hypocritical assertions are absurd.
The flag pin is an empty jesture the right uses. They wear their patriotism on their lapels, Obama shows his patriotism through the actions he has taken to ensure the veterans and soldiers get what they need for doing their job or for what they need to do their job. It’s not the soldiers fault they were sent to Iraq on a personal vendeta for bushco.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:36 pmComment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
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It is spelled exactly as it sounds d-b-a-d-a-s-s. When did I say an individual was not free to display a few pennies worth of Chinese made feel good. I suppose you also support all of those folks who have done nothing wrong other than wear T-shirts expressing opinions at places where their opinions where unwanted? How about “Bongs Hits For Jesus” kid? You definitely spoke out for him, right?
February 28th, 2008 at 1:36 pmI don’t own one, but I support the constitutional right to display one of you so choose.
Comment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Personally, I think I will just keep my 82nd Airborne Ranger sticker, the Bush “WTF?” sticker and my “Support the Troops, Bring them Home” sticker on my truck.
Oh, can’t forget my “One Nation, Under Surveillance” sticker…
February 28th, 2008 at 1:37 pmHere’s the way it works for the Republipukes, as demonstrated so well by Representative Kingston and his dust-up over a flag lapel pin:
Example 1: If I do something, and you don’t do the same thing, you are are wrong.
Example 2: If I don’t do something, and you don’t do the same thing, you are still wrong.
I don’t know which is worse - Kingston’s attempt at making nothing into something, or, his hypocrisy in doing the same thing for which he criticizes Obama. No shortage of hubris for these guys, is there.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:37 pmShayne @ 1:29 pm - i agree with you,
but i’ll give maher another chance tomorrow night…
i heard he caught hell for his INaction after the show…
but THAT was a crummy show last week…
and i was also disappointed colbert didn’t get one in on snowjob…
February 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pmWhen your party is good for popularity contests, plastic accessories, hypocrisy, “Mission Accomplished” banners, empty catchy slogans (i.e., “defeat the terrorists over there blah blah blah), goofy name calling (”defeatocrats!”), and absolutely sucking at carrying out a timely and appropriate defense, then it’s time for your party to go out of business for good.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:43 pmEver notice the ones that talk the loudest are the worst offenders, kinda like the preachers that are caught with their pants down. Wear the flag but let others die for you because they lack body armor and safe vehicles.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:43 pmbut i’ll give maher another chance tomorrow night…
i heard he caught hell for his INaction after the show…
but THAT was a crummy show last week…
Comment by katy — February 28, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
Bill needs to lay off the bong hits before the show.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:44 pmYeah he really sucked last week, let too many things slide.
Those American flag lapel pins are akin to the yellow ribbon on the bumper of the Humvees out there. They mean absolutely NOTHING!
Obama refuses to wear the pin because he thinks that it has cheapened the notion of patriotism. I think he is right.
And then this guy lies about when Obama was standing at attention. Take a look at the crowd at any ball game and see how many of them have their hand over their heart while singing the national anthem.
These guys have absolutely nothing on Obama. It’s sad when they have to resort to school-yard taunts about “your not patriotic enough”.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:47 pmJust look at what the idiot trolls here post constantly, GooGoo is a perfect example of what a non-thinking lemming is, but then again I think GooGoo is paid to disrupt this site.
Comment by Buckie Boy
I think you are right. What is sad is that TP allows it to get away with the disruption.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:48 pmPerhaps Bill is just getting tired, like many of us are, the lack of concern among much of the public, unless they have something invested. This administration is like a cancer that has invaded every aspect of our lives. Where do you start to clean it up with bush tentacles everywhere?
February 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pmbut I support the constitutional right to display one of you so choose.
Comment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
that right has been suspended by the Bush SCROTUS.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pmMy ‘Support Our Troops’ magnet keeps falling off my forehead & I feel so ostracized.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:51 pmi heard he caught hell for his INaction after the show…
but THAT was a crummy show last week…
and i was also disappointed colbert didn’t get one in on snowjob…
Comment by katy — February 28, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
I tried to email him but couldn’t find the place to do so. One last chance then Katy. Colbert last night, what the hell is wrong with these people?
February 28th, 2008 at 1:51 pmFurther proof that the 21st century Republican Party is nothing more than an advertising agency pushing an obselete, defective product on what it assumes is a terminally gullible marketplace.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:51 pmStupid is as stupid does.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:52 pmWhat did TP mean by “feigned ignorance” of the irony? I’m sure he was ignorant of it. These asshats never see the irony of their hypocrisy because it takes a certain level of intelligence which they clearly do not possess or instead have short circuited by their mindless adherence to moonification techniques and Party conformity.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:53 pmIf dedication to country can be reduced to the wearing of a damned lapel pin, then this republic deserves to collapse. How fragile is our patriotism that we must kowtow to ephemera to articulate it?
In my mind, it’s no accident that the same people indulging in breathless hysterics over Obama’s wardrobe and mannerisms during the national anthem (not the Pledge of Allegiance–this is long since documented) are those very folks who want to ban and burn Harry Potter books for fear that it will threaten Christianity.
Talk about insecurity! I would gladly take someone who has a nuanced and profound understanding of faith and country over these reckless fools whose commitment to both is a mile wide, yet an inch deep. I pity them.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pmI don’t know why you’d consider the yellow ribbons to be “obnoxious†deadbeatass. I don’t own one, but I support the constitutional right to display one of you so choose.
Comment by good_golly
The moronic troll would not see the irony having a yellow ribbon supporting the troops on the bumper of a huge SUV. I believe that irony is wasted on people with an IQ in the room temperature range.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pmMy poorly made, lead paint contaminated made in China by slave labor lapel pins means I’m a real Patriotic American!
February 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pmThe biggest fascists in this country wear flag pins while they are taking away our rights to privacy and imprisoning people like Governor Siegelman and torturing alleged “terrorists”. To paraphrase, these rethugs are all hat and no cattle when it comes to patriotism.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pmI dont see a flag pin on this guys jacket.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pmI called this idiot’s office on Monday to comment on how unethical it is to sit on Bill Mahr show last Friday and spew out a whole string of lies. They would not talk to me. I made several calls and found out he has a Democratic opponent named Bill Gillespie. I went to his website :
February 28th, 2008 at 1:56 pmbillforgeorgia.com and made a contribution. Jack must love this attention to his idiocy.
#49 - I agree with you. How trivial to point outwhether someone is wearing a lapel pin or where his hands are. The Repubs are really stretching to find something to pick at.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:56 pmherr dubyah wears a flag pin everyday, but he has successfully destroyed this country from within.
February 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pmShayne - bush saying this a.m. he wouldn’t sit down with R.Castro because they have political prisoners. Yet, it is coming out that former Governor Siegelman has been imprisoned under false charges by none other than Rove, bush’s hit man.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pmAnd how convenient that the 60 Minutes program lost power during the segment in the Alabama area. Strangely the station owner is a bush buddy. Hmmmmmm
As Shayne mentions, this whole obsession with flag pins, stickers, insignias, etc. are one of Umberto Eco’s 14 signs of fascism. And Fook Godwin. Obama rightly points it out for the jingoism it is.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pmThere is nothing wrong with wearing a little American flag lapel pin (made in China), and there is nothing wrong with putting a yellow ribbon magnetic sticker (also made in China) on the back of your vehicle — whether it’s a Toyota Prius or a Toyota Tundra. As a matter of fact, since China will eventually own everything we have anyway, the symbolism might even be more appropriate than most people think.
I only have an objection to the perception that the flag pin is somehow required. This takes it out of the “voluntary symbol” category and puts it in the same category as the Nazi swastika armband.
Maybe we ARE moving closer to fascism…
February 28th, 2008 at 2:03 pmKingston sputtered the same comments on Real Time last week. Pathetic little weasel, he is. This is the guy who said Dems don’t care about families because they expect Congress to work.
Comment by AMcG773 — February 28, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Jeez, these guys are taking incompetence to a whole new level.
I mean, if you go on one show without a lapel pin and criticize someone for not wearing a lapel pin, you just look stupid.
But even most stupid people would know enough not to do it a second time.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:05 pmFlag-pin, no flag-pin….Who cares?
The whole thing is stupid.
When I want to show my patriotism I wear my red, white and blue Mark Spitz style Spedo and a cowboy hat……then I mow the front lawn.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:08 pmThe reich-wing litmus test for presidency is:
1. Do you have a “normal” middle name?
February 28th, 2008 at 2:08 pm2. Do you wear your flag pin every day?
Comment by texaslady — February 28, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
Yep texaslady, it’s criminal what they’ve done to this guy. If you click on my name we have all kinds of articles on this guy at TheZoo. And they’ve run some here too.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:10 pmThis dolt was on Bill Maher last week spewing the same hooey - and not while he was wearing his patriotic pin. I’m sick of phoney “patriots” and their juvenile mentality.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:11 pmThis Kingston some kinda Commie? Won’t wear a flag pin! Recall election!
February 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pmPerhaps Rep Kingston should use the pin, not on his lapel, but on his lips.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pmCongressmen should have to wear a yellow star on their clothes.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pmMaybe all of us “unpatriotic” Democrats should be wearing little donkeys cut out of yellow cardboard on our lapels so we can be easily identified.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pmHis mis statements and flat out lies and smearing of the past week absolutely must be put in his Wikipedia entry. I dont know wiki editing but certainly one of you can di that. Pleeez.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kingston
February 28th, 2008 at 2:17 pmMiss Molly - How does a faded yellow ribbon on your car support our troops? How about a little action instead of a moment of patriotism. How about educating oneself to improve this government instead of letting the other guy do it?
February 28th, 2008 at 2:19 pmWhen I want to show my patriotism I wear my red, white and blue Mark Spitz style Spedo and a cowboy hat……then I mow the front lawn.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Where is your Budweiser?
February 28th, 2008 at 2:20 pmEisenhower, Kennedy, Carter, Bush I, Raygun, and Clinton did not wear flag pins on their lapels on a consistent basis during their campaigns or terms in office. I guess that that means they were all anti-American and unfit to be President. We all know that this is part of an orchestrated plan to plaster Obama as a secret cell member of AQ, a closet muslim and a darkee.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:22 pmWhere is your Budweiser?
Comment by dbadass
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It’s Pabst Blue Ribbon for me, Bud’s too fancy.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pmI apologize for getting so irate over these stupid ribbons….but until I see people waking up to what this administration has done to all of us a ribbon is a very hollow symbal along with a cheap pin.
It really is much more serious than so many people think and how do you change the course of a dictator system. Doesn’t anyone remember bush saying “dictatorship is alright as long as I am the dictator.” We thought he was joking.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pmcomment by charlie @ 2:08 pm
EEEEEWWWWWW!
I just puked up my lunch after seeing that.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:24 pmI just puked up my lunch after seeing that.
Comment by Uncle Ho — February 28, 2008 @ 2:24 pm
The Trailer Park Mobile Home Owners Association has surely had complaints filed!!
February 28th, 2008 at 2:26 pmMORE hellbound WHITE TRASH LIARS from Georgia.
Hypocrite, unamerikkkan, Chickenhawk.
Kingston and ALL the GHP (Hypocrisy) TRAITORS including TRAITORS Bush and Cheney.
“You’re either WITH Bush and McCain OR
February 28th, 2008 at 2:27 pmYou’re with the USA and the TRUTH!”
My only objection:
Kingston then feigned ignorance about the irony between his criticism of Obama and his own lack of a lapel pin.
I don’t think he needed to “feign[] ignorance”.
Cheers,
February 28th, 2008 at 2:30 pmBob, to answer your question, my neighbors here in Georgia, our state has been over run with the modern equivalent of the Carpetbaggers.
All seven of the Georgia Republicans in Congress voted against the Renewable Energy and Energy Conservation Tax Act of 2008, that should tell you something about these people.
Georgia is in sad shape and the wanna be new rich keep following Gingrich and his crowd to the “promise land”.
Many of my neighbors lack the critical thinking skills necessary for any real change in this state and I cannot look to the African Americans to help much, the are either too busy trying to get theirs or can’t vote due to being entangled (4 out of 10) with the judicial system.
In short, the state is sad shape.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:32 pmThat moronic little putz ought to just shove a sock in his flapping pie hole.
Jebus.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:32 pmThe only lapel pin I wear is a Harley Davidson flag…
you have a problem with that, Kingston? OK, c’mon over here & I’ll show you wear to put that Made in China Flag…
February 28th, 2008 at 2:34 pmI don’t wear pins. My patriotism is in my actions.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pmI don’t wear pins. My patriotism is in my actions.
Comment by Juan C.
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Me too!
February 28th, 2008 at 2:38 pmI couldn’t possibly care less about lapel pins. You don’t need to display a flag to be patriotic.
Comment by good_golly — February 28, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
But of course people like Kingston seems to think the opposite. A true 19 percenter. This is just perfect, anytime you see anyone with the lapel pin, you can certain that person is a 19 percenter. They just want to be easily identified so they can find each other in a crowd!
February 28th, 2008 at 2:40 pmIt’s Pabst Blue Ribbon for me, Bud’s too fancy.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 2:23 pm
Have you been watching “Blue Velvet”? Hopper Rules
February 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pmI have the *exact* same reaction to those stupid flag pins as I do to the twin lightning bolts the Nazi SS troops wore on their collars.
Gee. I wonder why.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pmI have my American flag pin upside down on my old boonie hat, right next to my fu(k Bush button.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:42 pmMiss Molly - How does a faded yellow ribbon on your car support our troops? How about a little action instead of a moment of patriotism. How about educating oneself to improve this government instead of letting the other guy do it?
Comment by texaslady — February 28, 2008 @ 2:19 pm
Excellent point. Of course, a yellow ribbon on one’s car doesn’t do a thing to support the troops — the money spent just goes into the pockets of a capitalist exploiter. And a lapel pin doesn’t make somebody a patriot, either. As you say, patriotism and troop support are best demonstrated through actions, not cheap symbols.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pmSymbolism, and jingoism over substance or real patriotism.
February 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm“Your flag decal(or lapel pin) won’t get you into heaven anymore.They’re already overcrowded from your dirty little war”. John Prine
Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You Into Heaven Anymore
© John Prine
While digesting Reader’s Digest
In the back of a dirty book store,
A plastic flag, with gum on the back,
Fell out on the floor.
Well, I picked it up and I ran outside
Slapped it on my window shield,
And if I could see old Betsy Ross
I’d tell her how good I feel.
Chorus:
But your flag decal won’t get you
Into Heaven any more.
They’re already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don’t like killin’
No matter what the reason’s for,
And your flag decal won’t get you
Into Heaven any more.
Well, I went to the bank this morning
And the cashier he said to me,
“If you join the Christmas club
We’ll give you ten of them flags for free.”
Well, I didn’t mess around a bit
I took him up on what he said.
And I stuck them stickers all over my car
And one on my wife’s forehead.
Repeat Chorus:
Well, I got my window shield so filled
With flags I couldn’t see.
So, I ran the car upside a curb
And right into a tree.
By the time they got a doctor down
I was already dead.
And I’ll never understand why the man
Standing in the Pearly Gates said…
“But your flag decal won’t get you
February 28th, 2008 at 2:59 pmInto Heaven any more.
We’re already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don’t like killin’
No matter what the reason’s for,
And your flag decal won’t get you
Into Heaven any more.”
The reich-wing litmus test for presidency is:
1. Do you have a “normal†middle name?
2. Do you wear your flag pin every day?
Comment by Dr. Matt — February 28, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Ha — the righties might want to examine the mote in their own eye before worrying about the speck in their brothers’.
Their ideal, Ronald Reagan, had the middle name of (gasp!) WILSON. And Wilson was a Democrat, you know…
Looking at some others:
Gerald Ford — middle name was Rudolph, as in Rudolph Hess.
Bob Dole — middle name is Joseph, as in Joseph Goebbels.
Jimmy Carter — name is James Earl, as in James Earl Ray.
As you can see, it’s possible to get quite silly with this. For instance, “James Earl” could be associated with the man convicted of assassinating Martin Luther King, Jr. But it could also be associated with James Earl Jones, a highly respected actor. Just as “Hussein” can be associated with the former Iraqi dictator, it can also be associated with a beloved former king of Jordan.
I predict that when the GOP runs somebody with a funny middle name (I guess that “Sidney” passes the litmus test), their criteria will change.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:04 pmI predict that when the GOP runs somebody with a funny middle name (I guess that “Sidney†passes the litmus test), their criteria will change. -missmolly
Walker!?
February 28th, 2008 at 3:15 pmholy crap!
February 28th, 2008 at 3:18 pmthese fu(kers are REALLY desperate!
The reich-wing litmus test for presidency is:
1. Do you have a “normal†middle name?
2. Do you wear your flag pin every day?
Comment by Dr. Matt — February 28, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
you forgot:
February 28th, 2008 at 3:21 pm3. Dumber than a box of rocks.
The first thing I looked for last night was Kingston’s lapel and when I didn’t see ‘Mr. Flag” I couldn’t believe it. Bottom line is this; don’t these guys realize how superficial and utterly ridiculous they look when they sit in front of a TV camera and seriously talk about this stuff? No pins and no hand to the heart means unpatriotic? No, unpatriatic means not voting for bills that would have sent troops into battle with the proper gear. Unpatriotic means voting for more spending while cutting verterans’ benefits and benefits for their children. Unpatriotic means promising to look into the Walter Reed Hospital fiasco and not doing anything about it, still. Unpatriotic means reading the President’s Daily Briefing that stated “Osama Bin Laden determined to strike in the United States on August 6, 2001 and not doing anything about it until AFTER Sept. 11, 2001. Uh…too late, Mr. Bush! Too many stumps needed pullin’, I guess. By the way, you need not put your hand to your heart when listening to the Star-Spangled Banner.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:21 pmI will show my patriotism by turning my back at the next playing of the star spangled banner. Other protesters have done so.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:34 pmThe honorable dumbfu(k from the state of Georgia should give himself a lapel pin suppository.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:46 pmI will show my patriotism by turning my back at the next playing of the star spangled banner. Other protesters have done so.
Comment by Uncle Ho
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Nothing more patriotic to a Leftist than being overtly un-patriotic.
Perhaps you could out do the others, and really show your love of country, by setting Old Glory on fire the next time you hear the national anthem.
I’m sure everyone would be impressed.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:48 pmI was waiting for that tired flag burning argument. Care to document all such events occuring within the continental US anytime recently
February 28th, 2008 at 3:52 pmdbadass,
Just a couple of weeks ago some Lefties burned the flag in Berkeley:
Here’s video-
February 28th, 2008 at 3:57 pmhttp://www.weaselzippers.net/ blog/ 2008/ 02/ berkeley-the-in.html
So I can assume this one equals all? What is it with you people and symbols?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:02 pmSo I can assume this one equals all? What is it with you people and symbols?
Comment by dbadass
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I would think that the people burning the flag are the ones using symbolism.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:05 pmI would think you would recognize the word symbol versus the word symbolism. Maybe you don’t see the “symbology”?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:07 pmJust a couple of weeks ago some Lefties burned the flag in Berkeley:
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
Boo friggin hoo. It’s a piece of cloth.
For the past seven years the Bush administration has been burning the Constitution. That’s something worth caring about.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:11 pmI was waiting for that tired flag burning argument. Care to document all such events occuring within the continental US anytime recently
Comment by dbadass
Yes, I know of one. Just last summer I burned my flag.
U.S. CODE
TITLE 4 - FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES
CHAPTER 1 - THE FLAG
Sec. 8. Respect for flag
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a
February 28th, 2008 at 4:12 pmfitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way,
preferably by burning.
I would think you would recognize the word symbol versus the word symbolism. Maybe you don’t see the “symbology�
Comment by dbadass
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C’mon dumbass, You know as well as I that the flag is a symbol of our country, and the flag set ablaze (or otherwise desecrated) is a symbol of disdain for the country.
Don’t play dumb.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:14 pmcharlie- send me your flag, with SSAE, and I will send it back to you burned. No shit.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:18 pmcharlie- send me your flag, with SSAE, and I will send it back to you burned. No shit.
Comment by Uncle Ho
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You don’t have to prove to me that you hate your country, I’ll just take your word for it.
But thanks for the offer.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:20 pmDon’t play dumb.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
What are you talking about. I was the one who posed the question “What is it with you people and symbols”. You responded with…
“I would think that the people burning the flag are the ones using symbolism”
I won’t suggest playing dumb but maybe just dodging the question
February 28th, 2008 at 4:26 pmComment by Charles James Napier
Hey Chuckles, what do you do with your American flag when it becomes old and worn, and is no longer suitable for display?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:32 pmC’mon dumbass, You know as well as I that the flag is a symbol of our country, and the flag set ablaze (or otherwise desecrated) is a symbol of disdain for the country.
Don’t play dumb.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
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Burning your flag in protest of a corrupt government is a sign of true patriotism. Protecting a piece of cloth instead of America is a sign of treason. That makes you the traitor, Napier. Isn’t that a french name?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pmYou don’t have to prove to me that you hate your country, I’ll just take your word for it.
But thanks for the offer.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
With posts and positions like these, you prove that you, indeed, hate your country. Party over country is the way the Soviets and Nazis went down. You’re headed the same way.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:36 pmWasn’t Kingston the same stupe campaigning for the Ten Commandments everywhere, and yet when Colbert asked him to name them, he couldn’t do it? Or the Bill of Rights, perhaps? I know I’ve seen this guy choke like this before…
February 28th, 2008 at 4:37 pmWasn’t Kingston the same stupe campaigning for the Ten Commandments everywhere, and yet when Colbert asked him to name them, he couldn’t do it? Or the Bill of Rights, perhaps? I know I’ve seen this guy choke like this before!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pmcharlie; au contraire - I don’t hate my country, I love it. I just hate the fascist pigs running it in the Bush administration. That is why I am so passionate about saving it from these neo-Nazis.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:38 pmdbadass,
Is your head screwed on right?
The flag is a symbol wether you fly it with pride, wear it on your lapel, burn it, spit on it or drag it down the street.
The flag is just as much a symbol to these folks: http://www.zombietime.com/ sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/ i_pledge_aversion_to_the_flag/
…as it is to these guys :http://www.monroegallery.com/showcase/images/marines_flag.jpg
So when you ask me, “What is it with you people and symbolsâ€, then I’ll ask you the same question….What is it with you people and symbols?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:40 pmYes…I know: wether = whether.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:41 pmSorry about the double-up, friends. The ol’ wireless at work ain’t so reliable today!
February 28th, 2008 at 4:41 pmComment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
A symbol is an object. Symbolism is an idea. I simply wondered why objects are more important than ideas to so many.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmSo when you ask me, “What is it with you people and symbolsâ€, then I’ll ask you the same question….What is it with you people and symbols?
And you don’t know the difference? then you are truly stupid. Symbols aren’t anything but symbols, and a burnt flag is a symbol of a country in trouble.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmComment by Charles James Napier
Answer the question, what do you do with your American flag when it becomes old and worn, and is no longer suitable for display?
Here, I’ll give you a hint, Charles.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:44 pmshoeless,
Your supposed to burn it respectfully.
Do you have a point?
February 28th, 2008 at 4:46 pmhttp://kingston.house.gov/ContactForm/
Here’s the link to email Kingston and ask him where his freakin’ pin is or anything else you’d like to tell him.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:48 pmA symbol is an object. Symbolism is an idea. I simply wondered why objects are more important than ideas to so many.
Comment by dbadass
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Damn, you’re stupid.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:48 pmJust a couple of weeks ago some Lefties burned the flag in Berkeley:
Here’s video-
http://www.weaselzippers.net/ blog/ 2008/ 02/ berkeley-the-in.html
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
Only problem is I don’t see a flag and I don’t know how you can tell they’re “lefties” except that your Nazi site labeled them as such. Dipsh*t.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:51 pmGood one Charles.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:52 pmSo when you ask me, “What is it with you people and symbolsâ€, then I’ll ask you the same question….What is it with you people and symbols?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
So tell us Nappy, where do you wear your Swastika? Maybe you should have it tattooed on your forhead so everybody knows what a good little Nazi you are.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pmWhat is it with you fascist Nappy that think all it takes to make a country great are symbols? Ask you people to contribute anything or make the smallest sacrifies and you start screaming about your rights. You think wearing a freakin’ pin or putting a ribbon on your bumper is what made this country great. You truly are as stupid as you sound.
February 28th, 2008 at 4:58 pmas for the picture of Obama not holding his hand over his heart, how about this one of George H. W. Bush in the same position?
http://digg.com/ 2008_us_elections/ Does_This_Make_George_H_W_Bush_Unpatriotic?OTC-ig
it isnt photoshop–its the real deal. i guess he’s unpatriotic too.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pmYour supposed to burn it respectfully.
Do you have a point?
Comment by Charles James Napier
Oh, so you have no problem with burning the flag, you are just against freedom of political expression, which is exactly what the American flag stands for.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:02 pmSo tell us Nappy, where do you wear your Swastika? Maybe you should have it tattooed on your forhead so everybody knows what a good little Nazi you are.
Comment by Shayne
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Is that all you have?
Every time I look at this website, there you are like some unhinged nutcase calling everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi.
You’re a pathetic cliche.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:03 pmBTW - At the bottom of this page you’ll find a ol’ San Fran flag-burning:
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_november_3_2004/
February 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pmOh, so you have no problem with burning the flag, you are just against freedom of political expression, which is exactly what the American flag stands for.
Comment by shoeless
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I never said - nor do I believe - that there should be any law prohibiting flag burning.
If you want to make an ass of yourself please do.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:05 pmSo, you do not have a problem with flag burning as a form of political expression? Good.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:07 pmYou think wearing a freakin’ pin or putting a ribbon on your bumper is what made this country great. You truly are as stupid as you sound.
Comment by Shayne
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I own no flag pin and there are no ribbons or stickers on my bumper.
You must be confusing me with someone else.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pmComment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Let’s see. I ask you to clarify the difference between objects and symbolic actions and you corrupt my good name as well as call me dumb but you are concerned that others might behave in a similar manner toward you? Is this consistency of thought?
February 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pmSo, you do not have a problem with flag burning as a form of political expression? Good.
Comment by shoeless
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I do find it offensive, but that doesn’t mean that I think you shouldn’t be allowed to do it….so long as the flag belongs to you.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pmdbadass,
I’ll say it again: You are an idiot.
Your questions indicate that you barely have a grasp of the English language.
Finish high school.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:13 pmFinish high school.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 5:13
This is getting rather innane so it is time to move on. If it matters I hold 3 degrees. The point is I engaged you in a civil conversation. At no point have I been disrespectful toward you, your ideas, nor your intellect.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pmcharlie- pay CLOSE attention to this now. Bush IN HIS OWN WORDS. This is why I hate him and everything he stands for.
“the Constitution is just a God-damned piece of paper”- George W. Bush
“It would be easier in a dictatorship…just as long as I’m the dictator”- George W. Bush
February 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pmSo when you ask me, “What is it with you people and symbolsâ€, then I’ll ask you the same question….What is it with you people and symbols?
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
I own no flag pin and there are no ribbons or stickers on my bumper.
You must be confusing me with someone else.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
So you defend the guy who says people who don’t use his symbols are unAmerican and then you don’t use the symbols so according to Kingston your unAmerican. Well I was already convinced.
Pretty funny you calling dbadass who does have three degrees uneducated. What a loser you are nappy.
February 28th, 2008 at 5:38 pmOverall, I think Obama sucks balls. He is the least evil of the 3 main candidates right now though.
And I commend him for not wearing a stupid lapel pin and i really give him props for not saluting the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. Doing that is a form of state worship and I wish people would wake up to that fact.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:02 pmAnd I commend him for not wearing a stupid lapel pin and i really give him props for not saluting the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. Doing that is a form of state worship and I wish people would wake up to that fact.
Comment by Alejandro — February 28, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
People in this country should feel free to wear or not wear a pin as they choose. And that picture with Obama not putting his hand over his heart was taken during the National Anthem not during the pledge of allegience as the rightwing smears suggest.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:24 pmShayne,
“So you defend the guy who says people who don’t use his symbols are unAmerican…”
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I never defended Kingston. He sounds like a fool.
I think the lapel pin issue is idiotic.
February 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pmwearing China-made flag pins are part of the conservatives’ political correctness rants
February 28th, 2008 at 7:46 pmWell Folks,
This has to be the most ignorant response to a question I have ever seen by a right winger.
Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) said it was okay to “question†Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) patriotism because he doesn’t regularly wear an American flag lapel pin.
Asked by Abrams if he was wearing one, Kingston had to admit he wasn’t,
What a right wing tool Kingston is.
Troubled
February 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pmI do find it offensive, but that doesn’t mean that I think you shouldn’t be allowed to do it….so long as the flag belongs to you.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Good. Then STFU about it.
February 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pmI will show my patriotism by turning my back at the next playing of the star spangled banner. Other protesters have done so.
Comment by Uncle Ho — February 28, 2008 @ 3:34 pm
But, but, will you have your hand on your heart as you are turned around????
February 29th, 2008 at 12:43 amIf you want to make an ass of yourself please do.
Comment by Charles James Napier — February 28, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
Yes, we know, we let you do it every time you post.
February 29th, 2008 at 12:47 amWhat a hypocrite. This is such a ridiculous complaint against Obama.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:34 amOuch. I don’t know what makes me more sad:
A) this guy represents, politically, the district in GA where I grew up.
or:
B) this guy represents, intellectually, most of the paleolithic right-wing idiots of this blessed country.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:44 amThe Republican party is chock FULL of closeted types like Mark Foley, Larry Craig, and Ted Haggard…..how is anyone surprised that they feel more comfortable wearing JEWELRY?
February 29th, 2008 at 6:44 amKingston is rapidly making a cartoon out of himself.
Symbolism is EVERYTHING to the Modern Bush Republicanâ„¢
It is the crack in the pipe, so to speak…
February 29th, 2008 at 10:46 amBarack Obama’s campaign appears well on its way to becoming one of the most intellectually dishonest in recent memory. Obama pledged to combat illegal immigration by helping to fix the Mexican economy, while simultaneously pledging to pull out of NAFTA unless Mexico agrees to U.S. environmental and labor standards.
While Obama campaigns in Ohio on a platform of renegotiating NAFTA, one of his senior economic advisers is telling Canada that Obama doesn’t really mean it. According to a report from CTV, the adviser ( Austan Goolsbee) told the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago that when Senator Obama talks about opting out of the free trade deal, the Canadian government shouldn’t worry because it was just campaign rhetoric not to be taken seriously. Quizzed on this matter, Goolsbee Goolsbee reportedly refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.
Goolsbee, a University of Chicago professor, cannot be passed off as some guy that Obama once had lunch with. He is a Obama’s “lead” economic adviser in the presidential and has been advising Obama since his 2004 Senate campaign.
Wake up folks! The rhetoric empty.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pmJack Kingston: Brought to you by the same people who believe the headline, “Mother Gives Birth to Hitler’s Clone.” All those dimwits in Georgia deserve him.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm