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Bush’s Censored Library May Have Secret Foreign Donors»

Southern Methodist University in Dallas announced last week that the university will be home to President Bush’s $200 million presidential library. Bush’s library, however, will be shrouded in secrecy.

An executive order Bush signed in 2001 “gives presidents and their families more control over presidential papers” and “could result in material being censored” from the library. The order also gives Bush “the right to veto requests to open any presidential records.”

The secrecy efforts are already beginning. In a press conference yesterday, President Bush admitted that his library would likely take foreign donations but said he would consider keeping the donors’ names confidential:

BUSH: We’ll look at the disclosure requirements and make a decision. There’s some people who like to give and don’t particularly want their names disclosed. […]

Q Any restrictions on who can give? Will you take foreign money for this?

BUSH: Yeah, probably take some foreign money, but don’t know yet, Ken. We just haven’t — we just announced the deal and I, frankly, have been focused elsewhere.

Watch it:

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So, who are the likely candidates? In Nov. 2006, the New York Daily News reported that Bush hoped to get roughly $250 million in “megadonations” from some key allies:

Bush loyalists have already identified wealthy heiresses, Arab nations and captains of industry as potential “mega” donors.

Based on history, there may already be some specifics. Bush 41’s presidential library received donations from a sheik from the UAE, who contributed at least $1 million, the “state of Kuwait, the Bandar bin Sultan family, the Sultanate of Oman, King Hassan II of Morocco and the amir of Qatar. The former Korean prime minister and China also gave tens of thousands of dollars to the library.”

When asked if the public has “right to know,” Bush replied, “We’re weighing, taking a look, taking consideration, giving it a serious consideration. Nice try, though.”

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119 Responses to “Bush’s Censored Library May Have Secret Foreign Donors”


  1. joe cantwell Says:

    a president, who doesn’t read, is going to have his own library.

    interesting.


  2. gummitch Says:

    “Nice try, though.”

    How often has Bush snarked this at the press, when they’re trying to get honest information out of him?


  3. toasterhead Says:

    Well, my opinion of King Hassan just dropped a notch or two…


  4. Zimzone Says:

    Building LIEbraries is hard work.

    The ‘Merican people have to understand that secrets are good for National Security. We have a Global War on Information; it’s valuable stuff. Not just everybody should be able to read what went on in my private house. Er, White House.


  5. hellinabucket Says:

    Republicans, are you going to quietly accept that a president doesn’t think the public has a right to know?

    One would think it would be a no brainer (pun intended w/no brainbush) that the public would have a a right to know if money from outside the country would be used to fund a US President’s Library.

    Sad that this is even needing to be brought up.

    This is another reason why the republicans will be the minority party for years to come.


  6. LynChi Says:

    I think we should stop calling this a library. What Bush wants to build is a shrine to himself.


  7. toasterhead Says:

    a president, who doesn’t read, is going to have his own library.

    interesting.

    Comment by joe cantwell — February 29, 2008 @ 12:01 pm

    The shelves will be filled with Albert Camus and “My Pet Goat.”


  8. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Will the library be so top-top secret, no one will even know where it is?

    Kinda like Maxwell Smart’s headquarters in “Get Smart”?

    Remember Animal House - Dean Wormer… “Those punks are on double-secret probation”?

    Why does Botch & Co remind more and more of that movie every day?


  9. tom Says:

    We and our children and our children’s children have contributed $9 trillion to GDumbya’s “legacy” but there will now be $250 million spent to whitewash that “legacy” with Rove and foreign donors in the mix.

    What’s wrong with that picture?

    Everything!


  10. Uncle Ho Says:

    ah, how typically fascist, a LIEbrary that is censored. Patterned by Joseph Goebbels no doubt.


  11. MCMetal Says:

    When asked if the public has “right to know,” Bush replied, “We’re weighing, taking a look, taking consideration, giving it a serious consideration. Nice try, though.”


    In layman’s terms : “We really don’t give a damn . We’ve been lying and hiding everything for 7+ years ; think that’s about to change now ?”


  12. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    I’m not surprised. As a loyal subject of the Saudi monarchy, Bush is a foreigner.


  13. RUCerious Says:

    Lessee, mebbee somebody from the Saudi Empire?


  14. specialist f Says:

    Lookie at me,I got my own libary.I wonder if they got pretzels.


  15. Tstatguy Says:

    And after all the recent attempts at legacy building, any truth to the rumor it will be called “Lincoln Memorial South”?

    was just wonderin’


  16. Zimzone Says:

    That’s interesting, I hadn’t heard that.”
    – President Bush, 2/28/08, on Americans facing $4 a gallon gasoline

    VERSUS

    “I, frankly, have been focused elsewhere, like on gasoline prices.”
    – Bush, 2/28/08

    These are the statements that should be put in the LIEbrary. Front & Center on the lobby, preferably.

    I know, the whole World is already on to his BS, but if they want to polish his legacy, what better way to affirm his complete stupidity?


  17. Roger_Roger Says:

    Now Bush sounds like the Clintons. Won’t release papers, Will take foreign money to hide his secrets. Sounds just like Hillary and Bill actually.


  18. RUCerious Says:

    This library will have a building named the Iron-e wing.


  19. bilbobaggins Says:

    What I don’t understand is why would anyone want to go to the Bush library? I don’t think I want to read things that are 50% redaction and 50% gibberish.

    Actually, I never understood the concept of a “presidential library”.


  20. Dr. Matt Says:

    How long before a reich-winger makes a Clinton reference?


  21. Tstatguy Says:

    Dr Matt

    it happened @ 12:08


  22. smedley Says:

    The good news about executive orders is that the new president can unilaterally revoke them, just as Bush did with this one.


  23. Dr. Matt Says:

    it happened @ 12:08
    Comment by Tstatguy — February 29, 2008 @ 12:10 pm

    Damn, I didn’t hit “post” fast enough.


  24. Zooey Says:

    ….and I, frankly, have been focused elsewhere.

    There was a butterfly outside the office window…


  25. MCMetal Says:

    Now Bush sounds like the Clintons. Won’t release papers, Will take foreign money to hide his secrets. Sounds just like Hillary and Bill actually.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — February 29, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

    Except for the fact that Bill actually speaks good English as opposed to a good butchered English ; and , oh yeah , we had a thriving economy , fiscal stability , and an army that wasn’t broken…………


  26. BillinChicago Says:

    Don’t forget his bestest oil buddies in the Middle East:

    http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com

    They’ve already given him a $1 million painting to go up in his wonderful propaganda mill:

    http://dir.salon.com/ story/ books/ feature/ 2004/ 03/ 12/ unger_2/


  27. toasterhead Says:

    There was a butterfly outside the office window…

    Comment by Zooey — February 29, 2008 @ 12:12 pm

    Well played, Zooey. Well-played…


  28. Keith H. Says:

    I can’t quite understand why he is planning a library instead of consulting with his attorneys to mount a defense for his crimes.


  29. joe cantwell Says:

    Comment by Roger_Roger — February 29, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

    does that bother you?


  30. Zimzone Says:

    Bush: ‘I’m sick of talking about oil. Let’s talk about gasoline.’


  31. Buckie Boy Says:

    Could the name Bin Laden be one of the donors?

    Bush sure has helped old Bin with his recruitment quota.

    Buck Fush


  32. joe cantwell Says:

    it happened @ 12:08

    Comment by Tstatguy — February 29, 2008 @ 12:10 pm

    who wins the pool?

    (didn’t have rr, i heard he got a job.)


  33. Uncle Ho Says:

    “there was a butterly outside the office window, and I wanted to pull its wings off sooooo badly.


  34. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    The shelves will be filled with Albert Camus and “My Pet Goat.”

    Comment by toasterhead — February 29, 2008 @ 12:02 pm

    And only the Pet Goat book will have had its spine cracked.


  35. A Patriot Acting Says:

    Why doesn’t he do everyone a favor and just take over the financing for that damned embassy in Iraq? He can put up a big neon “Lieberry” sign on the front and have his friends from Blackwater defend it. It would be a great vacation spot for all those soon to be retired Republicans. Come see the book, visit the newly installed Dick Cheney indoor shooting gallery where you can shoot skeet with copies of the Constitution printed on them. Condi will be out back grilling up burgers for everyone. Just please call ahead as George likes to run around the place in his stained tighty whities yelling beligerently at the non-english speaking staff and threatening to veto Condi’s dinner menu (just to stay relevant and all). Yes, the all new Bush Preznidential Lieberry and Republican Resort! You’ll come for the book but stay for the burgers!


  36. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I was waiting for a troll to come out and loudly condemn Bush for this development, seeing as how they all got worked up in a lather about Clinton’s foreign donors.

    Now Bush sounds like the Clintons. Won’t release papers, Will take foreign money to hide his secrets. Sounds just like Hillary and Bill actually.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — February 29, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

    Still waiting.


  37. Leftside Annie Says:

    Ah. Dubya’s LIE-BURY. Financed by Saudi zillionnaires.

    Perfect.


  38. Roger_Roger Says:

    #30 Yes it does.


  39. belac Says:

    Maybe Bush could ask some of these shy foreign donors if they wouldn’t mind kicking in a few extra riyal for some body armor for the troops… oh, I guess that’s not the kind of protection their looking for is it?


  40. dbadass Says:

    ….and I, frankly, have been focused elsewhere.

    There was a butterfly outside the office window…

    Comment by Zooey — February 29, 2008 @ 12:12 pm

    You give too much credit. The capacity to be captivated by the beauty of nature as manifested in such a magnificent creature as the butterfly requires much higher thinking skills


  41. VerbalKint Says:

    Could there ever be a more cowardly man?


  42. belac Says:

    You give too much credit. The capacity to be captivated by the beauty of nature as manifested in such a magnificent creature as the butterfly requires much higher thinking skills

    Comment by dbadass — February 29, 2008 @ 12:25 pm

    He wasn’t captivated really, his attention is just naturally drawn to shiny objects…


  43. MapleStreet Says:

    To grab Joe Cantwell’s coattails (comment 2).

    A library for a president who can’t read.

    A library devoted to secrecy and restriction of information (as a librarian, this is so against professional ethics that I’m screaming Fahrenheit 451)

    A library so shrouded in secrecy that the donors names are kept secret.

    I am assuming that visitors will be drastically restricted.

    And is “We’re weighing, taking a look,” Shrub-speak for “of course its a secret.”


  44. MCMetal Says:

    Could there ever be a more cowardly man?

    Comment by VerbalKint — February 29, 2008 @ 12:26 pm

    Yeah

    The ones who are part of the 19% Chimpy Adoration Brigade (like Roger_Rabbit clown) that post here to begin with……..


  45. Uncle Ho Says:

    VerbalKint; sir! You are insulting men everywhere by calling him a man.


  46. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Sounds just like Hillary and Bill actually.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — February 29, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

    Not even close.

    For all Bill and Hillary’s flaws, Botch is in a class by himself when it comes to self-deluding incompetence. B Clinton certainly didn’t get the country bogged down in 2 wars in Central Asia whilst running up the worst deficits this country has ever seen.

    NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.


  47. Tired of being lied to Says:

    It will be interesting to see what words, phrases, text, etc., they choose to carve into stone at this house of lies.

    Bush has said so many things, so often contradictory, nearly illiterate, circumlocutory, or just plain stupid.

    A few for consideration (but there are so many contenders):

    “I can press when there needs to be pressed; I can hold hands when there needs to be — hold hands.” –George W. Bush, on how he can contribute to the Middle East peace process, Washington, D.C., Jan. 4, 2008

    “I don’t particularly like it when people put words in my mouth, either, by the way, unless I say it.” –George W. Bush, Crawford, Texas, Nov. 10, 2007

    “I’ve heard he’s been called Bush’s poodle. He’s bigger than that.” –George W. Bush, on former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, as quoted by the Sun newspaper, June 27, 2007

    “There are jobs Americans aren’t doing. … If you’ve got a chicken factory, a chicken-plucking factory, or whatever you call them, you know what I’m talking about.” –George W. Bush. Tipp City, Ohio, April 19, 2007

    Perhaps an erasable chalk board would be a better choice.


  48. CitiDC Says:

    Aha, but that’s the beauty of Executive Orders. The next President that comes in can withdraw whatever Bush wrote.

    Open the files in 5 years and give no control to ex-Presidents? Entirely possible. There’s no inherited divine right once an ex-President is out of office,

    But we know it won’t come to that. The Bushies have been squirreling away all the important stuff and it will never make it to the library. They’re going to try and declare virtually all records “personal files” just like Nixon did in 1974.

    Nixon, of course, lost and his files went to the Archives. But that was because Gerald Ford decided to do so.

    Don’t expect that to happen again.


  49. joe cantwell Says:

    #30 Yes it does.

    Comment by Roger_Roger — February 29, 2008 @ 12:24 pm

    good.


  50. RUCerious Says:

    To enter this secret, closely guarded library, you’ll need a special pass, a retinal scan and fecal sample.


  51. MCMetal Says:

    Perhaps an erasable chalk board would be a better choice.

    Comment by Tired of being lied to — February 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

    I believe a blank sheet of paper is much more appropriate ……….


  52. Fool Zero Says:

    In a press conference yesterday, President Bush admitted that his library would likely take foreign donations but said he would consider keeping the donors’ names confidential…

    Osanymous?


  53. MCMetal Says:

    Why should the public have “the right to know” in the first place? The public has the right to try to find out, but that’s all.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

    Because government shouldn’t be all about secrecy and dishonesty , you un-American and ignorant apologist douchebag…………Especially when it concerns donors for a friggin’ LIBRARY.


  54. MCMetal Says:

    #50: And why would the next president be so rude as to override the executive order of a former president on such a non-issue such as this? It would seem just petty.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:34 pm

    To show the unintelligible moron whom you adore that he is simply a dishonest criminal and a crappy president , and not a monarch …………


  55. joe cantwell Says:

    Why should the public have “the right to know” in the first place? The public has the right to try to find out, but that’s all.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

    it’s just our government and our tax money after all.

    invest in rare, limited edition coins fm:
    http://blip.tv/file/520347


  56. belac Says:

    and fecal sample.

    Comment by RUCerious — February 29, 2008 @ 12:32 pm

    Bring feces in??? That’s a little like coal to Newcastle, isn’t it?


  57. tom Says:

    $250 million to polish a turd? That’s a lot worse than John Edwards’ $400 haircut.


  58. Buckie Boy Says:

    Ah, Frank Moron has slithered out from under his piss soaked bed to soil TP with his brownshirt, lockstep, Christofascist, lemming drivel.

    FY Frank


  59. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Frank, take your facsist crap elsewhere. You’re tiresome.


  60. MCMetal Says:

    How no one has ever soiled themself in the MSM while covering this unintelligible moron is a mystery that will have scientists confused and scratching their collective heads for many years to come ………..


  61. Zimzone Says:

    I heard Cheney’s man sized safe will be in the entrance.

    Anyone looking too close for secret documents will be ’safely’ cared for.


  62. Zimzone Says:

    Gin, #63, good one!

    How about a FEMA trailer? We have plenty sitting around, and the toxic fumes won’t harm these guys; they’re poison already…


  63. dbadass Says:

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:41 pm

    Are we going to have to start with that whole aquaduct gag again. Admittedly it is hilarious but it is getting a tad old


  64. toasterhead Says:

    Why should the public have “the right to know” in the first place? The public has the right to try to find out, but that’s all.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

    Yeah, true. It’s only a fundamental pillar of democracy. No big whoop.


  65. Max-1 Says:

    .

    I’m sure there are some Saudi donors just beggin’ to be first in line.

    .


  66. shoeless Says:

    Yeah, it wouldn’t look good if anyone saw the bin Ladens on the list of donors.


  67. MCMetal Says:

    Libarary? Why not a doublewide trailer financed by donations from the Chinese, Arabs and criminals that he will pardon, now that would be class.

    Oh, strike that, already been done.

    Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 12:40 pm

    How about explaining to everyone here the point of pissing away any type of cash , much less a couple to a few HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS , on a library constructed in the name of someone who doesn’t read , can’t speak properly , is a non-thinking unintelligible moron , and who is intellectually incurious ?

    It’s akin to building a firehouse/station , and naming it after an arsonist ………..


  68. Zimzone Says:

    Caption: ‘I’m now older than my Dad’.


  69. toasterhead Says:

    Glad to see that even former bleeding heart liberals like Bob are starting to see the light. Fascism is coming and more and more people are embracing it. Get ready for it.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

    Wow. You’re a borderline sociopath.


  70. joe cantwell Says:

    #57: Yeah. It sucks to pay taxes, doesn’t it. You pay, pay and pay and get nothing in return.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:41 pm

    meanwhile karl rove’s ex-boyfriend gets caught cheating:

    http://nancynall.com/2008/02/29/copycat/


  71. smedley Says:

    Hey Frank! Which president did W so rudely over-ride with his executive order?


  72. shoeless Says:

    And why would the next president be so rude as to override the executive order of a former president on such a non-issue such as this? It would seem just petty.

    Comment by Frank M

    The true mark of a groveling fascist sychophant, they actually strive for ignorance, and prefer to be kept in the dark by their totalitarian masters.


  73. MCMetal Says:

    #57: Yeah. It sucks to pay taxes, doesn’t it. You pay, pay and pay and get nothing in return.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:41 pm

    What we “got” these last 7 years , is a crumbling economy , record housing foreclosures , 2 quagmires in 2 different foreign countries , a huge divide between the citizens of this country , an ever-increasing population living in poverty , a wider divide between the haves and the have-nots , and a crumbling belief and faith in our own government because of their secrecy , dishonesty and stupidity ; and jackasses like yourself try to defend and apologize away all of that .

    Proud of yourself , skid mark ?


  74. smedley Says:

    Here’s a hint, Frank: it was signed on January 18, 1989.


  75. Ms_Joanne Says:

    To enter this secret, closely guarded library, you’ll need a special pass, a retinal scan and fecal sample.

    Comment by RUCerious — February 29, 2008 @ 12:32 pm

    I swear when I first read this I thought it said special “piss.” Jeez on me!

    I see the trolls have finally showed their true fascist colors. Why should the public know what we’re paying for? Why should anyone in public office be held accountable? Unless they got a consensual blow job, that is.

    STFU traitor!


  76. Ms_Joanne Says:

    Wow. You’re a borderline sociopath.

    Comment by toasterhead — February 29, 2008 @ 12:47 pm

    Borderline? HA! Borderline personality disorder, perhaps. Nothing else is borderline there.


  77. shoeless Says:

    Glad to see that even former bleeding heart liberals like Bob are starting to see the light. Fascism is coming and more and more people are embracing it. Get ready for it.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

    Wow. You’re a borderline sociopath.

    Comment by toasterhead

    Borderline? The 19% who still support George W. Bush are full-fledged sociopaths. They could care less what 79% of Americans, and nearly 100% of the rest of the world thinks of them. Only one person matters to these sad twisted semi-humans, and that is their Bushgod.


  78. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Dear President Obama,

    PLEASE revoke Executive Order 13233, issued by GW Bush after 9/11 to KEEP FROM THE PUBLIC the Presidential records of Ronald Reagan

    and George H.W. Bush. Both sets of records will contain the information to show that Reagan and Daddy Bush committed TREASON in the

    Iran/Contra CRIME.

    PLEASE open the records, so that the deeds of these TRAITORS against the USA may be known by the American people and the WORLD.

    Sincerely,

    McNRA Gun Nut(e)s


  79. Juan C. Says:

    Frankie is a diversion. Ignore and Flag.


  80. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Glad to see that even former bleeding heart liberals like Bob are starting to see the light. Fascism is coming and more and more people are embracing it. Get ready for it.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

    Wow. You’re a borderline sociopath.

    Comment by toasterhead — February 29, 2008 @ 12:47 pm

    No he isn’t. Frank is just a bad satirist with a low energy level.

    He’s really not worth the time. He’s not even amusing.


  81. dbadass Says:

    Glad to see that even former bleeding heart liberals like Bob are starting to see the light. Fascism is coming and more and more people are embracing it. Get ready for it.

    Comment by Frank M — February 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

    Why do all the genuinely amusing folk always have to give themselves away by going too far? Did you lose everytime you played that card game “Bullshit” when you where a kid?


  82. nanlichi Says:

    Visiting the Boy George Library will definitely be on the bucket list. What better place to express the level of my respect for the simian?

    I can write opinion letters, I can blog, I can discuss the POS with friends and family…. but to have an actual focal point where my expression will be noted and maybe it will actually get back to Georgie. Priceless.

    I think I will start saving my respect in a bag tomorrow morning, right after coffee.


  83. belac Says:

    He’s really not worth the time. He’s not even amusing.

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 29, 2008 @ 12:56 pm

    Preach on Brotha Llama,
    it’s haven’t seen so many people get so worked up about such a pathetic excuse for a comedian since Gallagher first sledged his way into our hearts…


  84. joe cantwell Says:

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — February 29, 2008 @ 12:56 pm

    yeah, and he’s still unemployed.

    and flatulent.


  85. Evil Spaniard Says:

    This library project looks every day more and more as the one in “The Name of the Rose”, with the closed rooms, the secret societies bihind all of it, and the censored books…


  86. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    And why would the next president be so rude as to override the executive order of a former president on such a non-issue such as this? It would seem just petty.

    Comment by Frank M

    Because the TRAITOR Bush issued the Executive Order 13233 in order to keep the American people and the WORLD from seeing the TREASON

    committed by TRAITORS George H. W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, now DEAD and BURNING in HELL for ETERNITY for his GENOCIDE.

    OPEN THE RECORDS, President Obama.

    Show the American People and the WORLD
    the TREASON of the Bush Crime Family….


  87. belac Says:

    This library project looks every day more and more as the one in “The Name of the Rose”, with the closed rooms, the secret societies bihind all of it, and the censored books…

    Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 29, 2008 @ 1:06 pm

    … and isn’t there something about purple stained fingers, too?


  88. helenahandbasket Says:

    Expect a big donation from osama bin laden, since he owes so much of sucess to bush’s policies.


  89. Cal Malenky Says:

    Any money from the bin Ladens? I hear Osama’s still at large.


  90. A Patriot Acting Says:

    Comment by Tired of being lied to — February 29, 2008 @ 12:30 pm

    Great post Tired! How ’bout this gem:

    “I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture … and we are leading this fight by example.Quoted in “The Dark Art of Interrogation,” The Atlantic Monthly, October 2003

    or

    “American foreign policy must be more than the management of crisis. It must have a great and guiding goal: to turn this time of American influence into generations of democratic peace.”
    speech, November 19, 1999


  91. Uncle Ho Says:

    Gallagher was far more amusing and he even made sense. More than can be said than about our resident trolls.


  92. Evil Spaniard Says:

    Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 29, 2008 @ 1:06 pm

    … and isn’t there something about purple stained fingers, too?

    Comment by belac — February 29, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

    I only hope voting Iraqis/Afghans don’t suck their thumbs afterwards..


  93. shoeless Says:

    Expect a big donation from osama bin laden, since he owes so much of sucess to bush’s policies.

    Comment by helenahandbasket

    Sure, just like when Bush Jr. went into business with Usama’s brother, Salem bin Laden, in the mid ’80s. They used the bin Laden fortune to drill a bunch of dry wells in west Texas, went ArBUSTo, and were bailed out by Salem’s daddy and with a shady South American billionaire.


  94. EvilPoet Says:

    President Bush’s $200 million presidential library

    Correction: liebrary


  95. Cal Malenky Says:

    86-
    Add The Creation Museum to the bucket list. One can find myths there, too.


  96. toasterhead Says:

    Off-topic, but holy shit:

    JUAN GONZALEZ: And you also detail in your book the same kind of flimflam going on with the soldiers who are recruited into the military, a bonus pay that they get that then, if they happen to be injured too soon when they get on the battlefield, they then have to pay back?

    JOSEPH STIGLITZ: Yeah. I found that just absolutely astounding. You know, you’re doing this research, and you find things that—I say, “Linda, are you sure? This can’t be!” But they said—you know, the view is, they signed a contract to serve for three years. The fact that they get blown up after one month means they haven’t fulfilled their contract.

    AMY GOODMAN: And so, what happens?

    JOSEPH STIGLITZ: They have to pay back the money.

    LINDA BILMES: Congress is changing this. They’ve intervened to change this. But, I mean, Congress has been intervening to change some of these problems. Right now, there are eighteen pieces of legislation before Congress and a number that have been passed based on our recommendations.

    JOSEPH STIGLITZ: Another example that sort of highlights this kind of—you know, some of this may be bureaucratic misbehavior, but still it highlights the kinds of problems our veterans are facing.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: It also highlights the total incompetence of the people that are running the operation.

    JOSEPH STIGLITZ: Exactly, like, I mean, one of the things—you know, they check out helmets and other equipment, because they want them to be responsible. But they get—then they lose their helmet in an explosion. You know, they’re shipped out, they’re disabled, they’re in concussion. Somebody in the military will send them a bill for their helmet.

    LINDA BILMES: It was the GAO study on that, which is unbelievable, about veterans being—hundreds and hundreds of veterans being chased around the country for small amounts of money that they allegedly owe, mostly related to pieces of equipment that they lost during serious injuries.

    From Democracy Now today.


  97. shoeless Says:

    Comment by Evil Spaniard — February 29, 2008 @ 1:06 pm

    … and isn’t there something about purple stained fingers, too?

    Comment by belac — February 29, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

    I only hope voting Iraqis/Afghans don’t suck their thumbs afterwards..

    Comment by Evil Spaniard

    They even have to do that to get sick. Most blue dyes, which are typically used as a component of purple dyes, contain an ingredient which is extremely toxic, and can be absorbed into the bloodstream through the skin. It can cause major organ failure and even death.

    But, hey, what are a few more sick and dead Iraqis.


  98. Uncle Ho Says:

    OT- USDA rejects ban on downer cows. By Christopher Lee- Washington Post. link; http://www.truthout.org


  99. shoeless Says:

    Oops. I meant, they don’t even have suck their thumbs to get sick to get sick.


  100. nofltwlt Says:

    I will never visit the Bush library. However I think it is a great idea. This library will be an albatross around the neck of all the Bush family, people who know him, the GOP, the neocons and everyone who supported our little woodenhead illegitimate president.

    Hell I just want the most hated man on earth and his illegitimate reign to end. Remembering him in infamy will be great fun


  101. A Patriot Acting Says:

    Sorry for the O/T but TPMMuckraker has posted a release by the AP taking Bush’s speech yesterday apart piece by piece and showing the actual facts behind each point. It’s a great read!

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ news/ 2008/ 02/ fact_check_on_wiretapping_law.php


  102. Uncle Ho Says:

    re; toasterhead @ 1:24 pm

    Anything, and I MEAN ANYTHING in regards to the military when enlisting, extension of service, bonuses, etc. READ THE FINE PRINT!!!

    Or you may find your caveat has been empored.


  103. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    70 YEARS of Bush TREASON will be revealed when President Obama
    rescinds Executive Order 13233, and OPENS THE RECORDS of

    George H.W. Bush and Ronnie Reagan, both TRAITORS to the USA.

    Ronnie is, of course, DEAD and BURNING in HELL for his GENOCIDE.

    And waiting for the Bushes to arrive…


  104. toasterhead Says:

    READ THE FINE PRINT!!!

    Or you may find your caveat has been empored.

    Comment by Uncle Ho — February 29, 2008 @ 1:36 pm

    That’s not fine print, that’s a Faustian bargain.


  105. shoeless Says:

    I will never visit the Bush library.

    Comment by nofltwlt

    Neither will I. Why would I travel all that way, when we have a used comic book store right here in town?


  106. Uncle Ho Says:

    Gin; there is more than enough blame to go around for that debacle in SE Asia. Truman ignored Ho’s letters to get French co-operation in Europe after WWII, and started funding their recolonization effort.

    Ike expanded funding, and by the time of Dien Bien Phu, we were financing 80% of the French war effort there. After that, Ike sent the first “advisors”. JFK sent more “advisors’, and LBJ….well, you know the rest of the story.


  107. LividLib Says:

    it’ll probably be the only “library” dumbass will have set foot in.


  108. Lefty Patriot Says:

    No “bleep”, some of us fools got extended for a year for JFK’s phony little “Cuban Missile Crisis” (but the CIA had pictures), and ended up in S.E. Asia for that fraudulent war to save the world from the commies.”

    Now we’ve seen the utter depravity of the right wing. JFK made up the Cuban missile crisis, according to our resident racist. this is a great way for gin to completely destroy all rightwing credibility; consider it done. you’re a liar, gin, and a traitor as well. too bad you survived vietnam, probably as a behind-the-lines thief in charge of supplies.


  109. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    But how pathetic is it that Bathtub Gin had to go all the way back almost half a century to find something to blame on Democrats?

    She could have saved herself a few years just by bringing up Teddy and Chappaquiddick.


  110. mary Says:

    Was only able to skim the comments but has anyone mentioned the think tank they’re going to set up at the library? If foreign donors help fund this lieberry, and the propaganda, oh I mean think tank publications are kind to them as a result isn’t that kind of like money laundering but instead of money it’s foreign policy or whatever?


  111. shoeless Says:

    I have occasionally brought up the fact that the primary purpose of this library will be the propaganda organization which will be soley devoted to rewriting the history of the past 8 years. You make a good point that a great deal of this propaganda will also benefit foriegn donors. Just one more act of treason by Bush.


  112. John Kerry Says:

    At it again aren’t you libs!!

    The key word is “MAY”!!

    God, you cowards are pitiful!


  113. tnrc75 Says:

    “Nice try though” Bush snips at the journalist after giving nothing away. That’s the problem with these guys. They think politics is a game. They don’t play to make life better for people. They play to win. What makes Bush think that the guy was trying to one-up or “punk” or demean Bush? It’s obvious that Bush has been told in briefings that he is to reveal nothing on pain of legal repercussions for people in his administration. This has nothing to do with attempting to humiliate or embarass anyone. It has everything to do with ensuring that the American people know what their government is up to. But still Bush imagines this as the war which he ditched.


  114. marlow Says:

    Two hundred million for a copy of “My Pet Goat” and a pile of smashed hard drives? Boy, I’ll have to check that out.


  115. flavorino Says:

    What do you want to bet the same a**holes who bankrolled the 9/11 hijackers will kick in money for the Bush library.
    Those of you who actually read know who I’m talking about.


  116. flavorino Says:

    I have occasionally brought up the fact that the primary purpose of this library will be the propaganda organization which will be soley devoted to rewriting the history of the past 8 years. You make a good point that a great deal of this propaganda will also benefit foriegn donors. Just one more act of treason by Bush.

    Comment by shoeless — February 29, 2008 @ 3:42

    You’re damn straight the Saudis want to whitewash and rewrite the history of 9/11 and bury it down the memory hole as much as Bush does.


  117. bratboy Says:

    Anyone who donates to this moron’s “library” is an idiot. Just like bush.


  118. Gatsby Says:

    So, will “My Pet Goat” be censored? Or will it be the PBD of August 6, 2001, warning that Al-Qaeda was ready to attack the US using airplanes be censored? The famous PBD to which the Criminal-in-Chief responded to the aide who brought it to his “attention”: “Now, you have covered your ass” and then proceeded to go fishing?

    We all know who is responsible for 9/11 happening: the Crawford idiot who did not take the warning seriously.


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