DoJ refuses to enforce contempt citations.
By on Feb 29th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
DoJ refuses to enforce contempt citations.
Today, Attorney General Michael Mukasey “rejected referring the House’s contempt citations against two of President Bush’s top aides to a federal grand jury. Mukasey says they committed no crime.” Mukasey claimed that White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former counsel Harriet Miers “were right” to ignore Congress’s subpoenas in the U.S. attorney scandal.
UPDATE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) outlines the next steps:
Anticipating this response from the Administration, the House has already provided authority for the Judiciary Committee to file a civil enforcement action in federal district court and the House shall do so promptly.
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Time to take out a couple of contracts, looks like. wht scum these bushites are, what filth.
February 29th, 2008 at 7:50 pmPlease, please, enforce Inherent Contempt. Send the Sargent At Arms out and haul their a$$es into the jail in the basement of the Senate building and leave them there until they agree to testify. That is the only way it is going to get done.
February 29th, 2008 at 7:51 pmAnyone have any historical references to this kind of situation? Did the House have to ask Mukey to do it first?
February 29th, 2008 at 7:51 pmThe party of Law and Order strikes again.
February 29th, 2008 at 7:51 pmDo these idiots have any idea what kind of a precedent they are setting? Do they really want to give a Democratic president that kind of power? Do they really want to see Democratic presidents telling anyone who has anything to do with the White House that they can ignore a subpoena?
Just think about what the Republicans would have done if Clinton had told his aides to ignore the subpoenas issued to them. They would have screamed bloody murder. Why aren't the Democrats screaming bloody murder?
February 29th, 2008 at 7:54 pmBilbo, you are correct.
February 29th, 2008 at 7:55 pmRemind me again why they approved Mukasey's nomination?
February 29th, 2008 at 7:55 pmIs there a statute of limitations or other legitimate reason why this can't be taken up again when a Democratic administration is in the White House? Once Bush is gone, can't all the crooks in the Bushcista regime ultimately be required to provide testimony and evidence before congress and or in a court of law?
February 29th, 2008 at 7:56 pmWhen Obama or Clinton is president, can't they order everyone to do what Bush ordered them not to do? If Bush is all powerful, isn't his successor equally all-powerful? Can't the next Attorney General choose to do what Mukasey opted not to do?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pmComment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 7:56 pm
Intent on contributing meaningfully to this thread?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pmHow can the Congress and the AG be on so totally different sides of the interpretation of the law?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:01 pm(sigh)
February 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pmMust remember to send another email to Sen. Schumer's Office...
How do you politely say "I told you so"?
#6 bilbobaggins: That's a good thought and I'm sure that may have crossed their minds. But the reality as they see it is they have no intentions of ever letting a democrat become president again. Do some research and some reading (yeah, I know, it's tedious sometimes, but necessary) to find out what they actually have in mind for us and for them. There's a storm coming and martial law is in it's wake.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pmSo, the "attorney general" (what a sham THAT is...) says that they "committed no crime", huh?
On WHAT does he BASE his legal OPINION?
Or just a STOOGE for a CRIME SYNDICATE which is BushTreason, Inc.?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pm.
So,
I CAN refuse subpoenas?
.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:06 pmis there a particular, serious reason that INHERENT CONTEMPT
February 29th, 2008 at 8:06 pmis not being pursued? ... is that even an option?
gin, ask the nurse to turn on matlock for you.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:08 pmHow do you politely say “I told you so�
Comment by S.D. — February 29, 2008 @ 8:03 pm
"Sir, I told you so."
February 29th, 2008 at 8:10 pmMemo to Chuck [Schumer] and Diane [Feinstein]:
Your pal, Muskrat, is doing a heckava job! Thanks for your votes!
February 29th, 2008 at 8:11 pmIts not for Mukasey to decide who is guilty or not, hes an attorney general not a judge.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:12 pmMukasey should resign!
February 29th, 2008 at 8:18 pmComment by katy — February 29, 2008 @ 8:10 pm
ROTFLMFAO! Most excellent!
February 29th, 2008 at 8:19 pmNutpicking, nice addition to the thread Gin. I suppose this refers to McCains campaign?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:20 pmCue the claims of executive priveledge and national security in:
February 29th, 2008 at 8:20 pm....3.....2.....1........Dana - are you there?
wow, thats what i'm gonna do if i'm ever subpeaonad..."i commited no crime"
February 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pm*shrug*
Its not for Mukasey to decide who is guilty or not, hes an attorney general not a judge.
Comment by Xisithrus — February 29, 2008 @ 8:12 pm
Precisely the issue. And once again we confront the issue of separation of powers. Justice Dept. equals Executive Branch. Courts are part of the Judicial Branch. This is the "Unitary Executive" b.s. in action, otherwise known as a dictatorship. And Pelosi is going to push a "civil suit?" The same Pelosi that took impeachment "off the table." I call bullshit!!!!!
February 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pmI remember when the rallying cry was 'bringing integrity' back to the White House.
Seems I misunderstood what integrity was: Prostitution, Corruption, Cronyism, Prostitutes, Toe tappers, Dishonesty, Secretiveness, Rabid Partisanship...
February 29th, 2008 at 8:23 pmHonestly, it would almost be worth giving up my freedom to watch goopers heads blow up to watch a dem admin do this same crap.
Alas, watching goopers spontaneously combust would be more fun than playing Whack-a-Troll (tm).
February 29th, 2008 at 8:23 pmSeems I misunderstood what integrity was: Prostitution, Corruption, Cronyism, Prostitutes, Toe tappers, Dishonesty, Secretiveness, Rabid Partisanship…
Comment by Xisithrus — February 29, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
Well, really. How could a consensual blow job even compare! Much, MUCH worse!
(and I am sooooooooooo proud of myself for figuring out how do do the little (tm) thing!! I am so simple sometimes. :-) )
February 29th, 2008 at 8:25 pmThe same Pelosi that took impeachment “off the table.†I call bullshit!!!!! -=ICTB=-
Pelosi is fairly toothless when it comes to these issues.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:26 pmI think I already have Mac, already have.
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 8:16 pm
you're repeating yourself, ginny.
do you need a bedpan?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:28 pm(and I am sooooooooooo proud of myself for figuring out how do do the little â„¢ thing!! I am so simple sometimes. :-) )
Comment by Ms_Joanne
That charmap is handy =)
February 29th, 2008 at 8:33 pmI think Scatman Gin swallowed a turd.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:33 pm(and I am sooooooooooo proud of myself for figuring out how do do the little â„¢ thing!! I am so simple sometimes. :-) )
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
Sorry I missed yer question the other night, 'n I was jes' about ta post a comment about that, but ya donna need it now, eh, lassie?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:35 pmyou’re repeating yourself, ginny.
Comment by joe cantwell — February 29, 2008 @ 8:28 pm
He's not repeating himself, joe.
What you're actually hearing is the sound of echoes ricocheting around inside his empty head...
February 29th, 2008 at 8:39 pmIs there a statute of limitations or other legitimate reason why this can’t be taken up again when a Democratic administration is in the White House? Once Bush is gone, can’t all the crooks in the Bushcista regime ultimately be required to provide testimony and evidence before congress and or in a court of law?
#1, Don't go counting on a Democratic administration getting in. The election is more than 8 months away. So much can happen, and Repubs haven't begun what is going to be the fight of their lives. If they don't win outright, there's always stealing or martial law.
#2, The time for taking this up, for all investigations that should have led to impeachment, was once Dems took control of Congress after the 06 elections.
Even without 60 votes in the Senate, Dems have had control of the apparatus to hold hearings and investigations. Dems should have been talking about Repub crimes until Bush's low numbers were also Repubs' low numbers. They haven't. It reminds me of 1992. When Bill Clinton first got into the White House, he supposedly made a deal to not pursue Iran-Contra. It was the same "look forward, not back" rhetoric we hear from Pelosi and the Dems today.
Pelosi announced that impeachment was off the table BEFORE the 06 elections. What kind of leverage is that? When the Dems came back after those elections, in the majority, they've spent their time running for the 08 elections. They've held next to no hearings, spacing them out weeks and months apart. They've gotten nothing done legislatively (you can take Pelosi's ethics bills and flush them - lobbyists and representatives have found new loopholes to do everything they were doing before).
These are not good people. None of them. Okay, a few are. But just because they have good haircuts and dress well and say the right words, doesn't mean that they're honest, good and well-meaning people. They're not. They're not in politics as public service - This is a career that feeds a drive for power and wealth. Big egos.
Just think back to high school, and the pompous asses who ran for student body office and joined clubs because it would look good on their college applications. D.C. is a club, and they're loyal to keeping themselves in the club. The way to do it is with big money, from the big corps. We, the people, factor in only as a chore, to be lied to, spun, in order to get enough of our votes every couple or few years. Most politicians hate their constituents' guts. The David Obey YouTube tape says it all.
Get involved in the Dem Party local to you, get rid of these politicians, put real people in their place. Smart people, who don't see politics as a career, but as their civic duty, a turn they take, like going into the Peace Corps. If it's not too late. Between global warming, the polluted environment, the imminent economic depression, the diminishing resources (oil, timber, food and water) and the coming resource wars, it's probably already too late to save the U.S. and life on the planet as we know it.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:42 pm--Please, please, enforce Inherent Contempt. Send the Sargent At Arms out and haul their a$$es into the jail in the basement of the Senate building and leave them there until they agree to testify. That is the only way it is going to get done. Comment by bilbobaggins --
exactly!
February 29th, 2008 at 8:43 pmDoJ refuses to enforce contempt citations.
Hmmm,
Mukasey claimed that White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former counsel Harriet Miers “were right†to ignore Congress’s subpoenas in the U.S. attorney scandal.
And what was my response to the article on the same subject yesterday?
Lets get real folks.
Here’s how it really went down.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) begged Attorney General Michael Mukasey and DC U.S. Attorney Jeff Taylor “for a grand jury investigation into whether White House chief of staff Josh Bolten and former counsel Harriet Miers should be prosecuted for contempt of Congress.â€
Both Mukasey and Taylor replied to Pelosi stating “screw youâ€.
Pelosi replied back stating “thank you sirs, which positions do you like most�
Pelosi said the House would file a civil suit seeking seeking enforcment of the contempt citations if federal prosecutors declined to seek misdemeanor charges against Bolten and Miers.
Once again Pelosi doesn't have a clue who actually runs the Justice Department.
It's not Mukasey, it's the Federal Judges George Dubya has appointed in his six years of terror.
So, Pelosi and her posse will file a civil lawsuit against Bolten and Meirs.
The case will be taken by one of George Dubya's lackeys.
George Dubya's lackey (judge) will determine that "Bolten and former counsel Harriet Miers “were right to ignore Congress’s subpoenas in the U.S. attorney scandal".
And life through the looking glass goes on.
Troubled Texan
February 29th, 2008 at 8:48 pmThe Democratic leadership is spineless, as are most of the rank and file Democrats in Congress.
Not only should the Sergeant at Arms should arrest these criminals in the early morning hours on Monday. If there is even a hint of resistance, they should be taserd, kicked, punched, and dragged by the hair to waiting black SUVs with tinted windows. They should be held at an unidentified location, their captivity unacknowledged. Their family's and attorneys' attempts to learn of their whereabouts should be met with denial.
When hauled before Congress, they should be chained hand-to-foot, in orange jumpsuits, with black bags over their heads.
Then let the questioning begin.
February 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmDoJ refuses to enforce contempt citations
February 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmBusiness as usual. Keep a lid on this and all the other obscene illegal con jobs tightly sealed. If not, one thread pulled could easily unravel the entire nine yards and could America take the truth? No longer do I care or hope for justice.... just let US have our country back and now.
I wonder of Mukasey will also refuse to look into the Siegelman case when the time comes. Will he try to claim the involved parties were just doing what Bush ordered them to do?
February 29th, 2008 at 8:56 pm"If"... IF Mukasey...
February 29th, 2008 at 8:56 pmTRoS, no worries, babes! I figured you missed my query.
X...Uhm, whats a charmap? (batting eyelashes, tilting head. BAT BAT BAT)
February 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pmJust click your heels together and repeat after me: "The Rule of Law, not Men" three times and you will be back in pre-W. Bush America.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:01 pmIt will be very interesting to see how the DoJ handles the whole Seigleman case.
Welcome to the USSA.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:02 pmComment by Jackie Morgan — February 29, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
This may sound really wierd, but because of my experience in the Vietnam era and participation in anti-war groups, your kind of statements are making the hair on my neck stand up. We had spies in those days who were always able to say just the "right things," but also said odd and divisive things. Like the Dems haven't had many hearings and investigations since gaining the majority in 2006, like Clinton had some "secret deal" to let the Iran-Contra thing go, like Pelosi announced BEFORE the 2006 elections that impeachment was off the table.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:02 pmGood for the House. Hopefully they'll following through. They will have the support of the people.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:05 pmSenator Charles Schumer of New York was always making noise and was unhappy about A. General Gonzalez,until he saw him gone.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmSchumer rcommended this guy called M.Mukasey from New York.
Schumer is not making the same noise anymore...I wonder why?
Schumer and Feinstein should be impeached for voting Mukasey out of the Senate judiciary committee. How come I can sit here with virtually no news coverage and still know that Mukasey lied when he said he would be independent. First of all, Miers was not a member of the WH staff when called to testify. Bolten was subpoenaed for documents, millions of which have been "lost" in the Bush fog--but that's another story. Let's cheer on this effort to uphold the law. Oh, and maybe those congressmen who were about to impeach Gonzales and are former US attorneys should take a look at Mukasey. His son is a partner in Giuliani's law firm which is representing Verizon (see warrantless wiretapping cases). Don't believe me? Check it out.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:12 pmPelosi will NEVER follow through. This performance is simply some trumped up leverage that will disappear as soon as the backroom negotiations are complete.
Reid and Pelosi have already demonstrated their undying allegiance to bush, so this is a feint to both throw meat to the dem base and lean on bush for some piece of dem pork.
This will never come to fruition.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:14 pmYou are SO right tarzana, my first thought was "way to go chuck".
February 29th, 2008 at 9:16 pmI guess his closed door meetings with mucky convinced him that he was a good guy. To bad he didn't look into his soul like bush did with Velveeta Poontang.
These guys will never learn that having a steak with the opposition doesn't mean that they won't turn right around and use that steak knife to stab them right in the back.
I think Scatman Gin swallowed a turd.
Comment by Mr. Evil — February 29, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
You mean he ate himself?
February 29th, 2008 at 9:19 pm"... with Velveeta Poontang."
Whoa... talk about a name fer a rock-n-roll band... that's PERFECT.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:21 pm(batting eyelashes, tilting head. BAT BAT BAT)
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
I'm gonna throw up.... :P
February 29th, 2008 at 9:27 pmMukasey forgot he's no longer a Judge.
And he forgot who he represents.
And he's betrayed his oath of office.
He should be dis-barred immediately, but he'll most likely receive a medal.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:29 pmComment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
I’m gonna throw up…. :P
Comment by Zooey — February 29, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
Somebody's jealous. ;)
February 29th, 2008 at 9:29 pmThere has been a bloodless, silent coup...
But all the signs have been there for us all to see for some time now.
Nothing will ever happen.
Well, until people actually start participating in their government.
Democracy is not just abut voting, it is about participating. (And Blog commenting does not count.)
February 29th, 2008 at 9:29 pm(And Blog commenting does not count.)
Comment by mr.frazzlebottom — February 29, 2008 @ 9:29 pm
Wow... nice to see irony is not a lost art form...
February 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pmThis may sound really wierd, but because of my experience in the Vietnam era and participation in anti-war groups, your kind of statements are making the hair on my neck stand up. We had spies in those days who were always able to say just the “right things,†but also said odd and divisive things.
I'm of your generation, too, protested that war, too, but I'm not sure I understand your point.
I can give you citations to all of the points I made, if you think I'm a plant, a "spy".
The Clinton-Bush-Iran-Contra deal has been discussed widely in the leftwing media (Thom Hartmann, Robert Parry).
Should I go through the hearings that have been held and dropped since January '07? CIA leak investigation, Valerie Plame testified, and then what? The US Attorneys hearing, Karl Rove refused to testify, and then what? The Conyers' hearings (1 per every 6 months) voted on this, what? Two weeks ago? Pelosi got around to it yesterday, and gave Mukasey a week to reply? Mukasey took advantage of "Put out the trash Friday" today to drop it back into her lap and bury it.
Pelosi took impeachment off the table before the November, 06 election.
Am I misunderstanding your point?
February 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pmSomebody’s jealous. ;)
Comment by Shayne — February 29, 2008 @ 9:29 pm
The "batting the eyes" thing never works for me. :(
February 29th, 2008 at 9:33 pmComment by mr.frazzlebottom — February 29, 2008 @ 9:29 pm
Wow… nice to see irony is not a lost art form…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — February 29, 2008 @ 9:30 pm
Good one, snort.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:34 pmThe “batting the eyes†thing never works for me. :(
Comment by Zooey — February 29, 2008 @ 9:33 pm
Yeah, right. I've seen it work for you. pffft.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pmZooey, that was my best blond imitation!
I am auditioning for the part of Dana Perino in Bimbettes in Paradice (sic).
And, Jackie, I understand the point (while I have no comment on the content). And the point is scary. I fear a revolution...and whom do you trust? And that, was the point.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pmYeah, right. I’ve seen it work for you. pffft.
Comment by Shayne — February 29, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
When!?
February 29th, 2008 at 9:36 pmThere ya go, great idea! Ever heard the term Nutpicking?
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Been there, done that. The Nutpicking was done during the 2000 and 2004 (p)Residential Selection by a corrupt SCOTUS.
Nice try, though.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:36 pmZooey, that was my best blond imitation!
I am auditioning for the part of Dana Perino in Bimbettes in Paradice (sic).
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
No way will you get that part. You couldn't even ACT that stupid, and still respect yourself. :D
February 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pmComment by Zooey — February 29, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
Damn, *foiled* again!
I am watching The Matrix, my all time FAV movie! Ever notice the parallels to politics and religion?
What an AWESOME movie!
February 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pmAbsolutely, MsJoanne. It's been a while, but I remember the parallels.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:46 pmThere ya go, great idea! Ever heard the term Nutpicking?
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Only in reference to you and the other republiscum traitors.
February 29th, 2008 at 9:58 pmWhat is Nutpicking?
February 29th, 2008 at 10:06 pmNutpicking is what you do to a walnut (or nut of your choice - whomever that might be ;-) ) with one of those little tools that looks like a dental torture device.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pmI was hoping someone would explain....
February 29th, 2008 at 10:11 pmI obviously have nothing better to do on a Friday night.
Where's that guy you introduced me to?? ;-) (BTW, he's pretty cool.)
February 29th, 2008 at 10:13 pmdid anyone notice the 2nd part of nancy's statement?
TP did not copy the most ironic part of the whole deal:
"The American people demand that we uphold the law. As public officials, we take an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect our system of checks and balances and our civil lawsuit seeks to do just that.â€
uh yyyep...
February 29th, 2008 at 10:15 pm“The American people demand that we uphold the law. As public officials, we take an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect our system of checks and balances and our civil lawsuit seeks to do just that.â€
Katy, GAG ACK BARF! Pretty rich from Ms Tabularly Challenged.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:16 pmOh. Nutpicking. I just chew it up. I wondered what those implements were for.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:17 pmAt least Clinton did it. Clinton's people answered the subpoena's. Clinton testified, and lied, under oath. At least Clinton did it. He pulls tail too.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:21 pmWhere’s that guy you introduced me to?? ;-) (BTW, he’s pretty cool.)
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
He's over that the Zoo, obsessing over the blog stats. It's a match made in heaven, I'm telling ya. ;)
February 29th, 2008 at 10:21 pmZooey, do you have an open thread going? I was lookin'.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:22 pmHe pulls tail too.
Comment by ForTruth — February 29, 2008 @ 10:21 pm
Hillary tail, if he knows what's good for him. Blech...
February 29th, 2008 at 10:23 pmDamn Zooey. That hurts. I was wondering about that though. It's an important part of a marriage. LOL.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:25 pmThey're all open threads on a Friday night, Ms J. :-)
February 29th, 2008 at 10:25 pmForTruth, could you imagine the hell that would have broken loose if Clinton had tried ONE of Chimpy McFlightsuits stunts? JUST ONE?
Talk about a revolution!
February 29th, 2008 at 10:26 pmIt’s an important part of a marriage. LOL.
Comment by ForTruth — February 29, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
No wonder he's been cranky -- he's schtupping a ballbuster. ;)
February 29th, 2008 at 10:27 pmYes Joanne, I imagine ol Bubba would have been re-impeached several times over.
Yeah, Bill's cranky alright. He's gotta work for it.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:35 pmCampaign sticker on the in-laws car: "Restore integrity, vote republican". Needless to say, it's been quietly removed, all the laughter must have made it difficult to concentrate...
February 29th, 2008 at 10:36 pmI can't think of anything else appropriate to say at this point. :)
February 29th, 2008 at 10:36 pmTime to Mukasey to resign is overdue!!!!! Resign! If you are against the law, you are with the other side! RESIGN NOW! INDICT, IMPEACH AND IMPRISON BUSH AND CHENNEY! HAGUE 2009!
February 29th, 2008 at 10:39 pmWhat the Justice DEPARTMENT is saying is that subpoenas are not valid for Republicans because this was nothing more than political grandstanding...nice, this is all brought to you by the administration of the rule of law
February 29th, 2008 at 10:41 pmNutpicking is when you pick through a website or blog looking for the most asinine posts...
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
I vote for this one.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:41 pmGin needs to have some gin.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:42 pmI guess the proper use of the word "Democracy" is in a trademarked catch phrase for the next war and nothing else. How sad for our Democracy, but I'm sure Mr. Cheney put an extra glob of vaseline in his palm tonight to enjoy the moment -- oh baby, not too fast. This is really the high point of his administration. In his part-time role in the OVP, he has manipulated the machinery of government to create a branch of government that is beyond any checks. He's created a monarchy. Oddly he's placed the crown on the head of the Boy-Blunder, but so be it. It's still an incredible achievement.
Way to go Dick, you're one big bad GOPer. You wanted to destroy America and you have.
February 29th, 2008 at 10:44 pmI vote for this one.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
Trolls don’t count, they usually look for regulars like a WillPitt or someone calling for or celebrating a death or like on this board when the homosexual slurs start flying.
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
Sexual orientation is meaningless (to me , anyway) ; your stupidity is not .......
February 29th, 2008 at 10:58 pmZooey, do you have an open thread going? I was lookin’.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
On Friday night all threads are open at The Zoo. Enter at your own risk.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:01 pmNutpicking is what I do with my other hand while I type and why I don't contribute anything valuable ever ...
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
I'm sure this is what he meant to say.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:03 pmShayne, I have never been one too afraid of jumping in with both feet. Too bad it's often a see-ment pond with no water. ;)
February 29th, 2008 at 11:03 pmYeah, Bill’s cranky alright. He’s gotta work for it.
Comment by ForTruth — February 29, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
And it's a really dirty job but somebody's go to do it.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:05 pmTrolls don’t count.
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
Even you know it. Now why don't you go Cheney yourself.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:08 pmComment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
Your fearlessness is legendary!
February 29th, 2008 at 11:09 pmTrolls don’t count, they usually look for regulars like a WillPitt or someone calling for or celebrating a death or like on this board when the homosexual slurs start flying.
Comment by Gin — February 29, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
See, I knew you would eventually write something that made sense, just like the monkeys with the typewriters.
"Trolls don't count." Words to live by.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:13 pmWhat is a WillPitt?
February 29th, 2008 at 11:17 pmJust to clear up the record: neither Senators nor Representatives can be "impeached." That is reserved for members of the Executive and Judicial branches.
Each house shall be the judge of the qualifications of its members. Senators and Reps can be kicked out of office by their peers, but don't hold your breath.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:17 pmThe s*** is getting deep now . .
February 29th, 2008 at 11:18 pmComment by Shayne — February 29, 2008 @ 11:09 pm
So is my big mouth. :-)
February 29th, 2008 at 11:18 pmHi Sabyen! What is a WillPitt? Uhm, Angelina Jolie's next child?
February 29th, 2008 at 11:19 pm#108. I also think they can be recalled (or whatever it's called) by their constitutes.
HELLLLLOOOOOOOO Connecticut!
February 29th, 2008 at 11:22 pmDarn right, Joanne. Zell Lieberman needs to go.
February 29th, 2008 at 11:23 pmIMPEACH MUKASEY!!!!
February 29th, 2008 at 11:38 pmIMPEACH MUKASEY!!!!
Comment by Uosdwis — February 29, 2008 @ 11:38 pm
AGREED!
February 29th, 2008 at 11:43 pmwell, REAL TIME was a much better show this week...
even with christopher hitchens (harrrumph hrum prump),
who bounced off the wall a few times, and was mostly ignored...
guess maher gets another chance, again...
hey - i usually watch keith olbermann after maher - the late edition...
March 1st, 2008 at 12:19 amit's not on tonight... was countdown on earlier this evening?
i'm always worried something's going to happen to keith...
since his show isn't on, well, just wanted to ask around...
Time to impeach these a**holes.
March 1st, 2008 at 12:23 amThe Bush gang is operating an ongoing criminal enterprise.
They show contempt and disrespect for the American system of government and the American people.
They are pure and simple traitors and criminals.
was countdown on earlier this evening?
i’m always worried something’s going to happen to keith…
since his show isn’t on, well, just wanted to ask around…
Comment by katy
No, it was supposed to be on, as advertised. But what they ran was a repeat of the Ohio Democratic debate. I sure hope Keith is OK. I would hate to lose his voice.
March 1st, 2008 at 12:26 amI just did a news search on Olbermann's name and it looks like he was at the Emmy's tonight. I wonder why MSNBC didn't change their lineup to show that Countdown wouldn't be on tonight.
March 1st, 2008 at 12:29 amwhew... thanks bilbo...
March 1st, 2008 at 12:30 amemmys, tonight?
IMPEACH MUKASEY!!!!
Comment by Uosdwis — February 29, 2008 @ 11:38 pm
AGREED!
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 11:43 pm
I second that motion!
March 1st, 2008 at 12:35 amKeith Olbermann should run for president! The last well-known person with any shred of integrity. And a sense of humor.
March 1st, 2008 at 12:38 amBill O'Reilly; Today's worst... person... in the worrrrrrlllllllllllllllllddddd!
March 1st, 2008 at 12:39 amDepartment of Justice:
Laws are icky.... ewwwwwwwwww
March 1st, 2008 at 1:40 am"...committed no crime" ?? Is this mukasey serious? (a rhetorical question)
March 1st, 2008 at 5:04 amThe DOJ could find guilt and it won't matter. At the end of this admistration there is going to be an orgy of pardons for the chimps cronies. The arrogence and outright disdain they show for anyone that isn't part of their cabal of the plutocracy sends the clear message of being above the law and they are rubbing our noses in it.
March 1st, 2008 at 7:17 amIMPEACH MUKASEY!!!!
Comment by Uosdwis — February 29, 2008 @ 11:38 pm
AGREED!
Comment by Ms_Joanne — February 29, 2008 @ 11:43 pm
I second that motion!
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 1, 2008 @ 12:35 am
All in favor?
AYE!
March 1st, 2008 at 9:01 amWell once again progressive blogs have been proven right and the wisdom of Congressional Democrats proven wrong. In the hinterlands everyone recognized that Mukasey was nothing more than a Republican yes man, committed to the Unitary President. Schummer felt otherwise. Now we know who was right. To paraphrase a line from Indiana Jones "Congress didn't choose wisely."
March 1st, 2008 at 9:05 amOf course the media barely covers this story. It's time to ask Schummer if he still stands by his decision to throw his support behind the confirmation of Mukasey. Without being held accountable, the criminal conspiracy known as the Republican Party will sabotage any Democratic Administration's attempts to right the wrongs the Republican Party has wrought on the nation.
March 1st, 2008 at 9:10 amIts called NHERENT CONTEMPT! They can bypass DoJ and Mukasey. They have a mechanism already in place to force Miers and Bolton to testify. Why won't they use it, instead of wasting time and taxpayers' money filing lawsuits that also will not work (beings Bush has a lock on the judges..).
March 1st, 2008 at 11:15 amINHERENT.. sorry.
March 1st, 2008 at 11:16 amAnother Go-Nowhere-Waste-of-Time exercise in futility.
March 1st, 2008 at 11:58 amAin't totalitarianism grand folks?
If the corporate media continue to DOWNPLAY the relevance of the attorney firings then there will be little grassrtoots groundswell of support for a just lynching.
We will soon have U.S. attorneys pulling " Don Seigelmans " all over the nation.
Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. --Old Uncle Mao Zedong
Perhaps soon another Chinese import might help remedy things here...revolution...
March 1st, 2008 at 11:59 amThink it'll be available at Wal Mart?
By the way...revolution is our birthright, and Constitutional right.
March 1st, 2008 at 12:01 pmThank you, Feinstein and Schumer, for endorsing that piece of trash. Who did you think he was but another Bush apologist?
March 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pmLet me put this out there as a simple crime.
Any persons who swear to uphold the Constitution, as these folks under investigation did, and willingly trample all over it under cloak and night are STEALING their salary! They need to testify even if Congress politely asks them without a subpoena, they're paid to be truthful and open (in theory).
Mukasey as well.
March 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm#2 bilbobaggins:
Please, please, enforce Inherent Contempt. Send the Sargent At Arms out and haul their a$$es into the jail in the basement of the Senate building and leave them there until they agree to testify. That is the only way it is going to get done.
Yeah, that would be quicker.
Cheers,
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm#11 osage:
When Obama or Clinton is president, can’t they order everyone to do what Bush ordered them not to do? If Bush is all powerful, isn’t his successor equally all-powerful? Can’t the next Attorney General choose to do what Mukasey opted not to do?can't the next president also just say there's no "executive privilege" covering any such materials, and then let Congress force the two to testify? If so, then what good is the "executive privilege" in the first place? Just a CYOA type means of answering to no one? If so, let's be up front about it, and enact that as a statute, or even a Constitutional amentment. More at the link. No kings. Not any more.
Cheers,
March 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pmOooops, try again:
#11 osage:
When Obama or Clinton is president, can’t they order everyone to do what Bush ordered them not to do? If Bush is all powerful, isn’t his successor equally all-powerful? Can’t the next Attorney General choose to do what Mukasey opted not to do?
Good question. Furthermore, can’t the next president also just say there’s no “executive privilege†covering any such materials, and then let Congress force the two to testify? If so, and the "benefits" of such "executive privilege" are so easily destroyed, then what good is the “executive privilege†in the first place? Just a CYOA type means of answering to no one (at least while still in office and answerable to public opinion)? If so, let’s be up front about it, and enact that as a statute, or even a Constitutional amendment. More at the link. No kings. Not any more.
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