Iraqi civilian casualties rose 36 percent in February.
“Violent civilian deaths in Iraq rose 36 percent in February from the previous month,” according to Iraqi government figures. The rise from 466 violent civilian deaths in January to 633 in February “was the first increase after six consecutive months of falling casualty tolls.” “February’s casualty figures spiked after female bombers killed 99 people at two pet markets in Baghdad on February 2 and a suicide bomber killed 63 people returning from a Shi’ite religious ritual south of Baghdad on February 24.”
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The working surge ??
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March 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pmunimaginable… the pain, of a family, a people, a country…
the pain in my heart, because of this, is so tiny in comparison…
and yet, at times it is nearly overwhelming…
i just cannot understand… comprehend… …
March 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pmWhy is the surge no longer working?
March 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pmMeanwhile, Bush Library to be Built in Saudi Arabia. Kucinich asks, “Why does a prison bookmobile cost $200 million?”
March 1st, 2008 at 12:55 pmAmerica has become a cult of warmongers and death givers.
-GSD
March 1st, 2008 at 1:01 pm4. There’s a big difference between acknowledging that the surge isn’t working and cheering and hoping that it isn’t working gg!!
But then again, you already knew that.
Do you have anything constructive to add here?
March 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pmWhy is the surge no longer working?
Comment by McWars — March 1, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
The problem is that the surge is working… working to descimate our military and destroy any semblence of civilization in Iraq, while enriching the people perpetuating this horror. All in a day’s work for our fascist leader.
March 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pmBTW, between 1200 and 1500 violent civilian deaths (i.e. murders) occur each month in the United States. This too is unacceptable, and we must continue to work to bring the toll down in both countries.
Comment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
This is a classic attempt by our two-wrongs-make-a-right equivalencer to normalize failure. Sickening.
Half a million needless civilian deaths, GG. At least. It would take over 20 years to have that many die in the U.S. from murder, with 10 times the population of Iraq.
March 1st, 2008 at 1:03 pmThis too is unacceptable, and we must continue to work to bring the toll down in both countries.
Comment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Excellent point. Maybe investment in education, job skills, community building, midnight basketball and other intelligent uses of funds might not such a bad idea after all eh?
March 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pmBush just needs to push this war until sometime just after 1/20/09. Then he can lay the whole
March 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pmComment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
nice try gg. your friend brit hume tried the same false comparison back in ‘03. didn’t work then either.
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/08/29_fox.html
why do you condemn our troops to needless death and injury to promote your false conservative agenda? haven’t they suffered enough because of you and people like you?
March 1st, 2008 at 1:18 pmsteaming turd in someone elses’ lap, just like his sobbing father did with Somalia.
-GSD
March 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pmStilll every day or two the media unquestioningly quotes somebody saying that the surge is working!
March 1st, 2008 at 1:25 pmgood thing AL SADR continued the “cease fire”
March 1st, 2008 at 1:29 pmbetween 1200 and 1500 violent civilian deaths (i.e. murders) occur each month in the United States. This too is unacceptable, and we must continue to work to bring the toll down in both countries.
Comment by good_golly
Yeah, and only 3000 people died in the 9-11 attacks, it doesn’t really matter right GG? How about this, why don’t you wait until there’s a draft because your boy has so depleted the military, and your kids wind up in Iraq, in a Humvee and their legs get blown off. Let’s see how cavalier you are then.
March 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pmWhy is the surge no longer working?
Comment by McWars
I guess it is if you only think it is working in regards to the number of American deaths. Most people don’t care about those “brown” people who are being killed. No matter that we are occupying their country against their will. I really do wish that people who still support this “war” would sit down and really think about how they would feel if Iraq had invaded and was occupying our country.
March 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pmYet another shining example of the success resulting from the surge, as so passionately argued in a January 10, 2008 op-ed in the WSJ, co-authored by McCain & Lie-berman.
If this is success, I’d hate to see what failure looks like.
Link to the WSJ article: http://online.wsj.com/ article/ SB119992665423979631.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
March 1st, 2008 at 1:46 pmWhy do you cheer and hope for setbacks?
BTW, between 1200 and 1500 violent civilian deaths (i.e. murders) occur each month in the United States. This too is unacceptable, and we must continue to work to bring the toll down in both countries.
As usual, the moron troll is sadly lacking in critical thinking skills. It thinks that if we are questioning whether or not the surge is working means that we are cheering and hoping for a setback. It needs to listen so it will understand that what we want is for the occupation to end. Then Iraq can start healing the tremendous wound we have inflicted on their country.
It also throws in a straw man by comparing the number of deaths due to violence in this country to what is happening in Iraq. It hasn’t the brain power to figure out that there is a big difference between the violence we inflict on ourselves (not good) with the violence that the people in Iraq are having inflicted on them. The day bombs start dropping on this idiot troll’s house, he can then equate violence in this country with violence in Iraq.
TP, why do you allow posters like this one to exist on this site. Why don’t you create a rule that says if a poster is posting off topic to disrupt or simply to disrupt, they will be banned. Because 90% of the trolls who post here are her for one reason only and that is to disrupt a thread.
March 1st, 2008 at 1:47 pmOh, and there’s the matter of the drop in U. S. casualties resulting from arming and paying former insurgents to select targets other than U. S. troops and contractors.
So, if we’d only paid the Germans and Japanese to not fight against us in WW II, the North Koreans in the early 1950s, and the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in the 1950s thru 1970s, think of all the U. S. lives that could have been spared. Perhaps this wasn’t done because there were some unacceptable risks associated with such a strategy?
For more details, see http://www.truthdig.com/ eartotheground/ item/ 20080108_us_military_paying_former_insurgents_to_keep_the_peace/
March 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pmThey are not just paying insurgents in Iraq, they are paying several suni groups listed as terrorist organizations in other countries. Some have verifiable links to Al Qaeda, others point to the Saudi Royals.
March 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pmWTF is up with that?
Up is down.
Black is white.
Right is wrong.
In Bush world.
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March 1st, 2008 at 2:23 pmfunny - Mr. Golly calls reality a “setback”.
“I’ve been trying to jump to the moon, but I’m not making it. My neighbors laugh at me for trying, and I can’t understand why they don’t see that I am going to make it, I just keep running into these setbacks.”
March 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pmNobody is cheering for setbacks gg. Sitting around pretending the surge is working and ignoring the reality of the situation solves nothing. It seems to me your cheerleading for people to stick their head in the sand and their ass in the air.
March 1st, 2008 at 2:44 pmMcCain is staking his Republican candidacy on Bush’s Iraq mess? I wonder what rank-and-file America feels about the very Republican failure in Iraq and McCain’s wish to continue that quagmire?
March 1st, 2008 at 2:45 pmFox News:
Iraqi terrorist casualties rose 36 percent in February.
March 1st, 2008 at 2:52 pmhttp://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Iraq_war
March 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pmFor the President and Poison Gas
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Donald Rumsfeld And Poison Gas
by Stephen Kerr; February 27, 2003
Take a glimpse into the future being prepared for the people of Iraq.
Farah is one of hundreds of thousands of refugees streaming out of American Occupied Iraq. She is enraged and humiliated and she is grieving. Her brother was buried when their apartment was bombed during the ‘shock and awe’. She can’t find her mother. Her father died in the first Gulf War. Farah is alone with her bitterness, and half a million Iraqis walking down a highway into Jordan.
Farah is 15 years old.
As she rushes towards the temporary refugee camp, she cannot contain her anger or her tears. The hungry refugees riot when a shipment of food arrives as they have not eaten in two weeks. US forces cannot control the unexpected rage of the hungry Iraqis. Farah surges towards the US troops who don their gas masks. From 150 feet overhead an American Predator UAV sprays the angry people with a fine mist of Fentanyl gas, and within 5 minutes those who had been raising their fists are struggling to keep their eyes open. Farah falls into a drugged stupor. Others fall on top of her in the panic. She vomits bile. And then Farah stops breathing.
This horrific scenario is being planned by Donald Rumsfeld, the culmination of his long struggle to remove a ‘straightjacket’ from the Pentagon. That straightjacket is called the Chemical Weapons Convention, (CWC) the international treaty that outlaws chemical warfare and chemical weapons, as well as the act of planning to use them.
According to Rumsfeld, “General Franks has a plan that addresses a host of very unpleasant contingencies, and there are a lot of things that can go wrong, that can be unpleasant…â€
It may seem strange that the man who demands the complete disarmament of Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons would actively plan to use them himself.
But it’s not.
Hold your breath, and grab your gas mask, because on Wednesday February 5th while testifying before the House Armed Services Committee, Donald Rumsfeld revealed just how the Pentagon plans to deal with a hostile and armed Iraqi population, of “between one and seven million civilians with semi-automatic rifles, rocket launchers and other military weapons.â€
Congressman Meehan quizzed the Secretary of Defence, “…assuming for a moment that our troops do have to engage armed civilians in the streets of Baghdad, are there any plans currently to use ‘non-lethal technologies’ to disarm and disperse?â€
For those who have never heard of a misnomer called the ‘non-lethal weapon,’ a short primer.
The United States military has been busy transforming powerful synthetic opiates such as Fentanyl into an aerosol chemical weapon that knocks troublesome civilians unconscious. They have also developed improved stink bombs that target specific ethnic groups with something called ‘US Government Standard Bathroom Odour,’ and other noxious smells.
No kidding.
http://www.wikileaks.org/ wiki/ For_the_President_and_Poison_Gas
March 1st, 2008 at 3:09 pm2. Why do you cheer and hope for setbacks?
Comment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Why do you cheer and hope for more American troops to die by insisting that we stay God only knows how long in Iraq?
What freedoms are the terrorists taking, or attempting to take, away from us by killing our troops “over there”? And just so you’ll understand my question, I ask this because everyone who supports this “war” keeps telling us that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hated us for our freedoms…thus, they must be attacking our troops in Iraq for the same reason…correct???
Remember the alleged terrorist who wanted to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge with a blowtorch? What freedoms do you think he wanted to rob us of? The freedom to have a shortcut across a river?
It seems to me that if the terrorists wanted to inflict maximum damage on America, and do everything in their power to destroy this country (other than financially, which bin Laden stated he wanted to do and which Bush is giving him on a silver platter), don’t you think they’d be focusing all their efforts on American soil and not some desert property half way around the world?
Finally, do you realize that we are more at risk of being attacked by one of our own fellow citizens as compared to a terrorist?
March 1st, 2008 at 3:20 pmcongratulations, righties. another 2-36 Friedman units from now, the last Iraqi will be dead, and you *ssholes can get busy turning it into a Hampton Inn & Suites with a big ‘ol golf course and a sh*tty corporate franchise restaurant. how did you guys know genocide would be so awesome?
sick, sick bastards.
March 1st, 2008 at 3:38 pm“Friedman units”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_(unit)
March 1st, 2008 at 3:51 pmsorry, that link to wiki is bad.
http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Friedman_Unit
March 1st, 2008 at 3:54 pm2. Why do you cheer and hope for setbacks?
Comment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Sorry for the late response.
Nice try, but the only setbacks have been caused by ordering U.S. troops to invade a sovereign nation. Talk about a misuse of their bravery and skills.
The question was asked, in part, to mock the Republican’s usual way of mounting a defense — slogans and banners.
We’d be validating your intentions to remain stuck in Iraq by wanting to “reduce U.S. deaths”. Why would I say such a thing?
Because we want to END U.S. deaths altogether by BRINGING THEM HOME. They should rest with their families and receive treatment for any mental or physical ailments. Not to mention, forward deployments should be used for conflicts that PROTECT America.
I’m cheering at the prospect of bringing our troops home and hoping for a setback in the reign of the neocon establishment.
March 1st, 2008 at 4:15 pmIraq was lost the day it was started. Illegal, immoral, needless, wasteful invasions can never be won. Now, the USA is getting its ass kicked on a daily basis, and innocent Iraqis die by the hundreds, just because idiots and traitors like Kristol and Bush refuse to own up to their bloodthirsty, thoughtless, cowardly ways. Imagine, after routing Germany, Japan and the USSR, we are brought to our knees by homegrown republiscum enemies.
March 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pmWhen Conservatives Loved The Palestinians
Reading the conservative press now you would think that Arabs and Muslims have always and everywhere been the enemies of Western civilization. We’re invited to imagine that the current troubles in Afghanistan and Iraq are just the most recent manifestation of a clash of civilizations that goes back to Mohammed, the Crusades, and the conquest of Constantinople.
Yet within the lifetime of our parents, conservatives were surprisingly pro-Arab. This was particularly true of the most salient issue in the Middle East, the Palestinian refugee problem. As surprising as this may sound, the mainstream consensus view of American conservatives from the late 1940s until well into the late 1960s was that the Palestinians had been deeply wronged by Israel and deserved restorative justice.
http://sanseverything.wordpress.com/ 2008/ 02/ 25/ when-conservatives-loved-the-palestinians/
How things have changed.
March 1st, 2008 at 6:25 pmComment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
What an idiotic, disingenuous comment.
March 1st, 2008 at 8:28 pmComment by good_golly — March 1, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
What an idiotic, disingenuous comment.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
And yet, no one is surprised.
March 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pmJust disgusted, bobwurst… just disgusted.
March 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm#33, but that can’t be true! We’ve always been at war with Eurasia!
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 am>BTW, between 1200 and 1500 violent civilian
> deaths (i.e. murders) occur each month in
>the United States.
Right, and yet you retarded reichwing fearmongers want to turn the world upside down, live in perpetual fear, and shred the constitution because some foreigners did less harm to americans than americans do to each other in a few months. The same logic you use to trivialize the iraqi deaths actually trivilializes 9-11 even moreso. But then again, you’re the guy who thinks Islamic powerbrokers in Iraq like Al-Sadr actually want us to stay…so I suppose logic isnt your strong point.
March 3rd, 2008 at 12:04 am