Rove: Iraq Redeployment Would Cause Oil Prices To Skyrocket To $200 A Barrel
Rove: Iraq Redeployment Would Cause Oil Prices To Skyrocket To $200 A Barrel
This morning on Fox News Sunday, former White House adviser Karl Rove claimed that redeployment from Iraq would cause oil prices to shoot to $200 a barrel:
If we were to give up Iraq with the third largest oil reserves in the world to the control of an Al Qaida regime or to the control of Iran, don’t you think $200 a barrel oil would have a cost to the American economy?
Watch it:
Occupying Iraq has hardly helped oil prices stay low. Last week, oil prices reached a record high of over $102 a barrel. On March 19, 2003 — the day the Iraq war commenced — oil was trading at $36 a barrel. A look at the rise in oil prices:
None of this should have come as a surprise to the Bush administration; before the war, economists were widely predicting a prolonged presence in Iraq would lead to a rise in oil prices. As Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz recently noted in Vanity Fair, “The soaring price of oil is clearly related to the Iraq war. The issue is not whether to blame the war for this but simply how much to blame it.”
Rove is also out of step with the American people, a majority of whom believes that the Iraq war is tied to the current economic downturn. A recent AP poll found that 68 percent of Americans say that redeploying from Iraq would help the economy.
Transcript:
WALLACE: All right. But Obama has found a clever way to link the war in Iraq to our domestic problems with the economy here at home. Let’s watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
OBAMA: We are spending $12 billion per month. That is money that we could be spending here in the United States, rebuilding our infrastructure, building schools, sending kids to university.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: If he’s able to define Iraq in terms of where do you spend that $12 billion, on the battlefield over there or on infrastructure and social programs here, doesn’t Obama win?
ROVE: Well, Obama — it’s a good argument for Obama, but I’m wondering where it goes, because it really is a very neo-isolationist argument. It basically says, you know, We should not be involved in the world because of the consequences to the budget here at home.
Well, we were not involved in the world before 9/11, and look what happened. Look at the cost to the American economy after a terrorist attack on the homeland. We lost a million jobs in 90 days after 9/11.
If we were to give up Iraq with the third largest oil reserves in the world to the control of an Al Qaida regime or to the control of Iran, don’t you think $200 a barrel oil would have a cost to the American economy?
So you know, it’s a cute thing in a primary. I’m not certain over an 8-month general election that you can make the argument that we ought to take a look at every foreign policy commitment in the United States and measure it on the basis of the number of dollars that we’ve got there.
I happened to be in Los Angeles on Monday, and somebody had heard Obama say this to me, and they were Democrat, and at dinner they said,
I’m worried about that, because does that mean he’s going to be looking at our support, for example, for the state of Israel and looking at it in terms of what could we be doing at home with those dollars?
And it was a nice line, but I’m not certain how durable a line it necessarily is.
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Rove must be using his “The Mathâ„¢” again.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 amRove? All lies, all the time. What a pussy little traitor.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 amWhy don’t Rove and Wallace just jerk each other off and put it on RedTube?
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 amTypical repuke logic. Invading Iraq has caused the price of oil to go to $100 a barrel (their excuse, at least) and now Rove wants us to believe that if we leave it will double again. Nice try Rove. We’re not buying it.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 amHow to catch a monkey. Hollow out a gourd. Tie the gourd to a tree. Leave a hole in the gourd just barely large enough for the monkey to get his hand in. Put a nut in the gourd.
The monkey will reach in the gourd for the nut, but won’t be able to get his hand out of the gourd with it clenched around the nut. Monkey will be caught and killed before he lets go of the nut.
Rove’s Republicans are that greedy little monkey, the nut oil, and the gourd Iraq.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 amRove has the special talent of being a shit-midas. By all means listen to him and know the consequences of following his advice.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 amAnother ‘Pocket and wallet ‘ scaring claims made by Rove..
Iraq production of oil has no impact now on world markets..Iraqis barely having oil for themselves to use these days.
We were told before the war…that oil prices will go down when Saddam is toppled, now we are told if we leave Iraq..prices of $100.00 a barrel now will become $200.00 because of Iraq. So get scared
Nice try,
Fool once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me…
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:40 amLiars, liars, BushCo’s pants are on fire. Ignored warnings created a quagmire. Anyone remember this prediction?
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 amWhat do you expect from Pravda and its correspondents??
MORE WAR - ALL THE TIME….
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 amIf we were to give up Iraq with the third largest oil reserves in the world to the control of an Al Qaida regime or to the control of Iran, don’t you think $200 a barrel oil would have a cost to the American economy?
You know KKKarl, no one is buying the Republican canard that if we leave Iraq al Qaida will take control of Iraq. Perhaps he can tell us how he thinks that 5,000 fighters can take control of Iraq when 160,000 American soldiers and 180,000 American contractors can’t control the violence in Iraq. Is he so stupid to think that Iraq is going to even allow al Qaida to stay in Iraq once we are gone. I guess he missed the Pentagon memo that said that the Sunni’s and Shiites both hate al Qaida (or any other foreign influence) in their country. The minute we leave, al Qaida (if there really are any in Iraq) will be beating a hasty exit right behind us.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 amAnother day, another parade of lies . . . just sop and nothing new or surprising.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 amGive me a call if they’re ever held accountable for anything.
Rove’s Republicans are that greedy little monkey, the nut oil, and the gourd Iraq.
Comment by PeterW — March 2, 2008
That is a perfect analogy. Thanks.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 amMy question is, did Wallace call him on his bull$hit? Since this was on Faux Noise, I’m betting he didn’t.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 amWhatever Karl, you just proved by your obfuscation that the Obama’s premise is so sound, it requires you to change the subject.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 amDoes anyone else share my fight or flight response to Rove?
F&%k Y*u Karl Rove, You little fear mongering piece of sewer gargage. I hope and pray that there is a God in Heaven, and He’s finally had more of Karl Rove than even God can take, and all hell breaks loose on that bastard’s sorry excuse for a life. He needs to answer for all the damage and pain he’s caused. He needs to be locked up for the rest of his life! And, hopefully the “rest” of his life can be measured in hours not days.
Sorry! He’s on my last nerve!
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:51 amC’mon, now. Who ya gonna believe? A Nobel Laureat economist, or a political skank who had the ‘math’ in 06? Huh?
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:53 amAll those who answered Rove may now leave the building. Your van is waiting to take you to the lunatic asylum.
So Iraq IS about oil ?
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 amIt’s so great having Rove’s mouth noises all over Fixed News. Keep talking Karl, keep talking. My fondest wish is that eventually the ego-driven spew from Uncle Karl will trip him up. Those w/much to hide shouldn’t yap so much.
My daughter, who is a history major, wants to see his head hung on Traitors’ Gate.
Figuratively speaking, of course ;->
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 amFrom the AP January 2, 2008
“Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said Iraq’s average production was 2.4 million barrels per day in November. Exports stood at around 1.9 million barrels per day, sold at an average price of US$83.87 per barrel.
In January, output was 1.9 million barrels. There were no figures available for december or detailed month-by-month figures for the rest of the year.
Since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that removed Saddam from power, Iraqi production has mostly hovered between 1.7 million and 2 million barrels per day, according to the International Energy Agency. It’s prewar production was 2.58 million barrels per day.”
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 amAnd just think, if we weren’t still dependant on that oil, nobody would care what the price was.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 amCan it, Rove.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 amprediction or projection?
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 amMy money is , as always, on the American people’s collective amnesia. And I’ll bet so is Rove’s.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm“we were not involved in the world before 9/11, and look what happened”.
Say what? the US has had military bases and embassies around the world for decades. The problem before 9/11 was that Bush and Co weren’t paying attention to the right part of the world. They still can’t figure it out. It isn’t, and wasn’t Iraq, Karl.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 pmHere’s an interesting link:
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 pmworld oil production
Note that Iraq is third in OPEC, but what about OECD and Non OECD?
Wow, Kristol and Rove lies seperated by one post. They’re coming in too fast to keep them straight.
The best thing that could happen to this country would be a complete and utter Media Black-out of anything said by the lunatic right. Like Great Britan did w/ Prince Harry’s service in Afghaniastan. That way they could talk amongst themselves in a vacuum and eventually run out of air and die.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pmMy money is , as always, on the American people’s collective amnesia. And I’ll bet so is Rove’s.
Comment by rogerD
After finally awakening after the last 7 years, I don’t think that the American electorate is going to go back to sleep any time soon. They finally see the damage these people have done to this once great country.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pmRove is out of step with HUMANITY someone off him already.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pmAfter finally awakening after the last 7 years, I don’t think that the American electorate is going to go back to sleep any time soon. They finally see the damage these people have done to this once great country.
Comment by bilbobaggins
I think the only awakening that has occurred is the economy…..as usual it has to affect them personally before they wake up.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 pmthe safe bet is ALWAYS to take the opposite of anything rove says (or any of the other lying thieves of the bush/cheney regime). They have a disastrously proven track record of being WRONG and INCOMPETENT on absolutely everything.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 pm.
Karl Rove - traitor.
It’s good that Faux Noise is finally showing their true coiors - traitors of the American people.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:09 pmIt is beyond my comprehension that anyone could be stupid enough to believe this claim.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 pmAhhh, when the Turd Blossom speaks the truth quivers and quakes. His gracious lies float threw the airwaves like the wind across the trees.
The fascist Bushies invaded Iraq to Turn Off the supply of oil. Less supply, higher prices! We all know Bush and his oil buddies are profiting $$$ greatly from this corrupt war. Bush will have control, along with the Iraq oil supply up and running , just in time for oil to sell at $500 a barrel.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 pmRove is probably hoping this happens so Exxon can double its record profits.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:14 pm…but dont you *DARE* say it was about the oil!!!!
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:14 pmExactly how many times in the past has this pasty faced, porcine, POS been right when predicting the future?
According to Juan Cole, it there is a miniscule chance that Sunni Al-Qaeda could ever challenge the Shiite Iraq goverment and establish a base in Shiite Iraq.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 pmI think Rove is right but not because of the redeployment……I think oil is headed for 200 dollars a barrel no matter what happens…..It will be measured in euro’s though……I think they have made sure this will happen.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pmBetter be careful Karl. Your lies and B.S. can no longer be spewed under the safety net of executive privelege.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm” Rove is also out of step with the American people, …”
Come on Think Progress! Being “out of step” is not the problem - Rove is a liar and I really wish you would call it like it really is!
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pmLooks like his son should go over to Iraq and fight for my right to take an affordable road trip through Canada this coming summer. Unless and until he does this, I’m not taking him seriously.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pmRove also predicts withdrawal will cause global warming and grumpiness in old people.
Actually, Rove appears to be an optimist.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:32 pmMaybe this despicable shell of a human being should be blackballed from any camera lense. Since when is Rove an expert on anything other than deception? Believe that anything Rove says has at least one hidden agenda.
Rove is no expert on foreign policy, the geopolitical effects of withdrawal from Iraq, or the international setting of a barrel of oil and its contingencies.
The way to detect whether Rove is lying is when his lips are moving. Take it to the bank.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 pmAnd of course, the dramatic rise in oil prices over the last few years couldn’t possibly have anything to do with Peak Oil — oh, no! — even though Matthew Simmonds (a man with twenty years of experience running his own investment bank specializing in the energy industry and a prominent theorist in the Peak Oil movement) was reportedly a member of Cheney’s oh-so-secret Energy Task Force. When you consider the fact that the United States has invaded one nation with large reserves of petroleum (Iraq) and is intermittently rattling its saber against another (Iran) while paying comparatively less attention militarily to other countries which either have WMD now (Pakistan) or have publicly taken steps which suggest they are actively developing them (North Korea), it’s hard not to wonder whether Cheney might not have learned something from Simmonds and other members of the Task Force which he felt made it imperative for the US government to do anything and everything in their power — such as find a reason to send in the military, perhaps? — to ensure control over those petroleum reserves. Our country is, after all, unbelievably dependent on petroleum and not just for energy — and petroleum consumption is beginning to increase substantially in other countries such as China and India as well.
I don’t think it’s impossible as it sounds, even though the mainstream media has been largely ignoring the issue. A spokesman for Exxon Mobil said back in 2005 that they believe all the easy oil and gas in the world has essentially been found — but did most Americans ever hear about that? Did they hear about the Hirsch Report published by the US Department of Energy in 2005, which basically said that the country will need to start preparing for Peak Oil at least 10 years in advance of the global Hubbert Peak (that is, if it hasn’t been reached already) in order to survive the transition without experiencing substantial negative impact — provided that consumers, industry, and government make extraordinary efforts without which we need to start 20 years in advance? Even Middle Eastern countries are reportedly beginning to invest in alternative energy technologies — and if they’re starting to hedge their bets with regard to energy when they’ve historically been so rich in petroleum, I think it’s safe to say that the proverbial handwriting is probably already on the wall.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 pmand then there’s this from rove:
“I’m worried about that, because does that mean he’s going to be looking at our support, for example, for the state of Israel and looking at it in terms of what could we be doing at home with those dollars?”
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pmPerhaps Rove ought to stop pontificating and explain under penalty of perjury what his role was in prosecuting Siegelman.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pmThere’s no way I can stomach watching that clip but does rove get away with saying that the U.S. wasn’t “involved in the world before 9/11″?!?
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pmSo it was and IS all about oil. Golly, golly and to think Bush said it was about WMD oh, and freedom.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pmI’m still waiting for them to put Rove a panel and and have someone call him out on his lies. I’m not holding my breath. This guy is no expert on anything but dirty politics. Any other references from him regarding economy.oil,etc are always distortions in favor of the GOP. Very carefully crafted lies.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 pman Al Qaida regime ???!!!
BOOGA BOOGA!
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pmOil costs per barrel WILL approach 200 bucks, no matter what. We would all benefit from reviewing Michael C. Ruppert’s research in this area. And the cost per barrel will not be due to what happens in Iraq, as the lying liar Rove wants us to believe (A typical Rovian tactic is to make sure that there is an element of truth in the bigger lie. This is exactly what he’s doing with his defense of the Occupation). It will be due to supply and demand, because the globe has already reached Peak Oil with demand increasing exponentially and the supply DECREASING exponentially. Like it or not, the structure of western economies will be radically altered in the next 4-10 years.
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 pmWell, we were not involved in the world before 9/11, and look what happened.
you slimy self serving self centerd uncaring fat creepy pig…
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:54 pmgawd how i HATE this rove pig…
Like it or not, the structure of western economies will be radically altered in the next 4-10 years.
Comment by Eyeball Kid
Predicition: China Will be the greatest superpower within 20 years……how will Americans deal with that?
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:55 pmhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/ 2008/ 03/ palestinians-suspend-peace-talks-with.html
Palestinians suspend peace talks
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 pmIt’s a “no-brainer” type thing Karl - you wouldn’t get it.
Muzzle the pig-boy!!!!!
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 pmIf it was SO costly, WHY go to Iraq in the first time, for God’s sake?
Man, those neocons are really cockroaches.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 pmWell, we were not involved in the world before 9/11, and look what happened.
I’m speechless. But luckily, wikipedia will come to my help here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_wars
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:06 pmSo it was all about oil anyway. What a SOB.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 pmSo Iraq IS about oil ?
Comment by nigel — March 2, 2008 @ 11:55 am
Who actually believes it was ever really about those elusive WMDs anyway?
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 pmOf course it was all about oil.
But karl, $200 was your hope. Your really pleased, aren’t you? Don’t lie again, now.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:09 pmUsually the trolls swarm on Sundays, because they know the TP staff is not looking. Where are they today? Too scared to touch the cost of oil, or the sad state of the economy?
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:12 pmVK, I think alot of trolls have gone the way of all those W stickers we no longer see now.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pmAnd not one of those fools will admit in person they ever voted for Bush, even the ones I know used to have the Bush/Cheney and W stickers LOL
Usually the trolls swarm on Sundays, because they know the TP staff is not looking. Where are they today? Too scared to touch the cost of oil, or the sad state of the economy?
Comment by VerbalKint — March 2, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
I think it is because they can (in their little minds) frame almost every issue as Democrats, or progressives, or socialists, or ecologists botches. But today, they’re really having a difficult time to think how to frame the evidence of the incompetence, pure greed and egothism of their beloved leaders.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 pmone of karl’s gifts to his country…
Iran leader’s Iraq visit eclipses US, Arab ties
Sun Mar 2, 2008 7:08am EST
By Mohammed Abbas
BAGHDAD, March 2 (Reuters) - Pomp and ceremony greeted Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on his arrival in Iraq on Sunday, the fanfare a stark contrast to the rushed and secretive visits of his bitter rival U.S. President George W. Bush.
Ahmadinejad held hands with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani as they walked down a red carpet to the tune of their countries’ national anthems, his visit the first by an Iranian president since the two neighbours fought a ruinous war in the 1980s.
His warm reception, in which he was hugged and kissed by Iraqi officials and presented with flowers by children, was Iraq’s first full state welcome for any leader since the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein in 2003.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm[…]
http://www.reuters.com/ article/ latestCrisis/ idUSL02355657
His warm reception, in which he was hugged and kissed by Iraqi officials and presented with flowers by children, was Iraq’s first full state welcome for any leader since the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein in 2003.
Comment by katy — March 2, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
Oh, the irony…
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:21 pmKarl Rove, with the help of Tom Delay, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Grover Norquist, Bill Kristol and of course George W. Bush, has destroyed the GOP.
So, why should anyone listed to this dumpling? Better yet, why is he given any soap box at all - oh Faux News.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:23 pmPLEASE CONTINUE TO EMAIL CBS NEWS (60 MIN)TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE AND DISCLOSE THE INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT DISCLOSED ABOUT THE SEAGALMAN .
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 pm$200? Bring it on.
Better start looking for a good bicycle, fat ass.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pmIn other words, Karl, a rapid withdrawal would only make your HUUUUUGE mistake even worse…is that what you mean?
http://newsprism.wordpress.com
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 pmActually, it was going IN to Iraq that doubled the price of oil (tripled, actually).
What a bozo.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:39 pmIran leader’s Iraq visit eclipses US, Arab ties
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pmSun Mar 2, 2008 7:08am EST
By Mohammed Abbas
So, where Iraq had been a bulwark against Shiite radicalism in the Middle East, now we have two Shiite-run governments in alliance, and the spread of redicalism throughout the region. Way to go, rethugs.
And in a single line graph, we see the end game of the Bush Administration. Pardon my tinfoil hat, but how utterly inconvenient that men intimately connected to the oil industry would destabilize the Middle East so thoroughly, thereby driving crude prices beyond all recognition.
Everything that was once and yet remains good about the United States has been willfully sacrificed to enrich the beneficiaries of Big Oil.
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 pmIf chimpy the oil whore truly could count on oil doubling to $200.00, the troops would be packing right the hell now.
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:33 pmThe time for this sumbag to be behind barrs is overdue!
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:35 pmThis criminal is talking about the real reazon for the invasion and occupation! It the US is serious in restoring it image abroad, Rove is one of many criminals that has to face accountability and pay for his crimes. War Criminal!
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pmHuh? The freedom and democracy excuse just expired?
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:40 pmFor an administration that didn’t even know gas was approaching $4 a gallon and for an administration that has ties to Big Oil, you would think that they would actually WANT oil prices to skyrocket to $200 a barrel. For them to express concern that oil prices would skyrocket is like a murderer expressing concern for the welfare of his victim’s family.
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pmVery revealing choice of words in Rove’s statement. He didn’t say withdraw from, remove troops from–or anything like that.
He said “give up Iraq.” In other words, it’s ours for all time.
That’s more than an occupation, it’s an annexation.
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pmThe human/pig hybrid Karl is using his “special math” again.
March 2nd, 2008 at 2:58 pmWhy is this guy on tv?
He makes no sense and he looks like Petunia Pig.
More evidence of the “we own the world” mentality, articulated by liars and framed in paradox.
You make a very good point, Viking. At least when this administration “spreads democracy” by setting up a right-wing dictatorship, they do it in style. I hear that new embassy is really something.
March 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 pmYou have to wonder about Rove’s motives in saying this. I for one think he’s too smart by half to be saying something this ridiculous. I consider myself a cynic, and I definitely don’t trust either of the two parties. To me, they’re like two sides to the same coin. Is Rove acting as a foil to someone else’s project? This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
March 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pmThe public has been conned by the propaganda that Rove is a “genius”.
He is not a genius, he is just crazy.
Check out his history both personal and public.
March 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pmThis guy has SERIOUS issues.
Comment by flavorino — March 2, 2008 @ 3:40 pm
March 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pmRove’s genius is that he is simply a moral and ethical black hole.
From Karl’s mouth to Satan’s ears.
March 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pmImagine that, an alarmist statement from Karl Rove that tends to insulate the right wing from blame for rising oil prices.
Lucky for us he’s such a straightforward, honest fellow.
March 2nd, 2008 at 4:39 pmThis seems the rhetorical equivalent of a hail-mary pass, to regain his uber-genius title. He’s known for treating his candidates’ weaknesses as strengths, and since he has no current candidates, this is an attempt to “salt the mine” of conservative opinion with a “right” prediction, so he’ll be much in demand by the next election’s conservative clients.
Chances are good the price of gas will rise regardless of the presidential winner, and Rove’s cynically pitched his tent down the electoral road preparing for the next war, while abandoning his current cohort, in the midst of battle.
March 2nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm“Rove: Iraq Redeployment Would Cause Oil Prices To Skyrocket To $200 A Barrel”
Yup, Tubby Mctreason Rove is revisiting his “architect” playbook again.
March 2nd, 2008 at 5:04 pmYou think they gave each other blow-jobs after this interview? I mean people actually LISTEN to these know nothings? The great genius, Karl Rove, killed off an entire movement (conservatism) and party (GOP) is pontificating about . . . anything? And people ACTUALLY listen? Oh yeah . . . knuckle draggers.
March 2nd, 2008 at 5:25 pmknuckle draggers.
Comment by scytherius — March 2, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
March 2nd, 2008 at 6:35 pmKarl Rove and Dick(head) Cheney should have a contest to see who’s been right the most. So far, I believe they are tied, 0-0.
March 2nd, 2008 at 6:37 pmonce again Turd Blossom has it backward. STAYING IN IRAQ Would Cause Oil Prices To Skyrocket To $200 A Barrel> anybody pumping gas lately?
March 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 pmWhat these people always say, the truth is the opposite.
We’re controlling Iraq to stop the oil from pumping, reducing supply and helping OPEC drive prices up (which Saddam was uncooperative in doing…thus he had to go)
Truth: If the U.S. gave Iraq back to the Iraqi people, Iraq would immediately start pumping and exporting their oil again (they need the revenue), flooding the market with oil and driving prices down.
Of course, that’s the last thing Western Oil interests want to see happen.
Whatever they usually claim, the opposite it usually true.
Just like this past week when business interests publicly proclaimed that if NAFTA was removed, American jobs would be devastated. Of course, just the opposite is true. NAFTA itself devastated American manufacturing jobs, and returning to pre-NAFTA reality would bring American manufacturing jobs back to the U.S.
March 2nd, 2008 at 7:03 pm$200 oil?
The current $103.00 oil would never have happened if we were not mis-treating Sunnis in Iraq. The Saudi King had said so many times that he is totally against dividing Iraq into three, yet the Bush Administration is being controlled by oil lobbyists, who are in turn controlled by separatist Talabani Kurds (who wants to annex the northern Kirkuk oil area), and Pro-Iranian Hakim who wanted to form a Super Shiite Region, controlling the oil in the South.
The Saudi King would have pumped more oil into the world market if the Bush Administration had not mis-treated Iraqi Sunnis, trying to divide the country into three.
There should be an investigation regarding Joe Biden/Bush-Cheney/75 senators who had voted to soft-partition Iraq.
If Mexcians invaded our country, trying to partition our cuntry, declaring oil-producing Texas as an independent state, what would Texans do?
Dud!
March 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pmRove should be behind bars…. why is scum like this allowed to roam the earth?
March 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 pmGoing there was supposed to make oil prices drop to $20/barrel. How has that worked out, Karl?
March 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 pmIt wasn’t that long ago when we were being told we needed to invade Iraq to avoid $75 a barrel oil.
March 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 pmFirst, I can report that Dr. Stiglitz reads Think Progress, as I recently saw him at an event holding a printed copy of one of the stories here.
Second, I think it’s a matter of great debate just how much the war has impacted oil prices. I would contend that prices would be much higher with or without the war. Since correlation does not mean causation - it is a logical fallacy to suggest so. There really is no good way to determine just how much impact the war has had on oil; it has had some, but not enough to change the fundamental problems of supply and demand we are facing currently.
As I’ve pointed out before, there are liberal economists who agree with me.
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 pmIt’s also interesting that TP’s own linked story actually suggests a different reason for the oil price hike than the war; to the authors, the dramatic price increase is a reflection of the falling dollar.
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:39 pmOnly in Republican America can we put two “oil men” in charge and still see gas prices double since they have been there.
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 pmC’mon, now. Who ya gonna believe? A Nobel Laureat economist, or a political skank who had the ‘math’ in 06? Huh?
Bush says he thinks he got a ‘C’ in Econ 101.
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 pmRove is a college dropout who probably didn’t pass any economic or business courses.
I’d love to see that losers college transcripts.
His area of expertise is lying, dirty politics, gaming the system and breaking the law.
Rove, Hannity, Limbaugh all avoided serving in the military and all are college dropouts.
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 pmNotice a pattern to the right’s pundit’s.
Karl Rove, a professional liar has finally gained Legitimacy. Just like Don Corleon.
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 pmAnybody remember the refrain “Death to tyrants”?
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 pmKlassic Karlâ„¢:
Take a massive Republican shortcoming = +$100/barrel oil
Amplify the problem massively with a fear trigger tied to not getting what they want.
Result: Real, original problem pales in comparison to the conjured image of the problem, thus mitigating the immediate, real problem and making the opponent now defend against a scenario which isn’t real.
$100 oil is old news, what to do about $200 oil, THAT is the question we’re facing now…
Karl is keeping busy creating reality again…
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm“Well, we were not involved in the world before 9/11, and look what happened. Look at the cost to the American economy after a terrorist attack on the homeland. We lost a million jobs in 90 days after 9/11…. ”
after each of those sentences i wanted to hear rove add.”…on george w. bush’s watch with me as his advisor…”
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 pmThis is one irrelevant human. Mainstream media just pee all over themselves when fat boy comes around. He has done more damage by using the power of the presidential office and done a shredding gone job on the Constitution. Bush nursed him all the way. Let’s see what this bottom feeder does on his own. We’ll be watching.
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 pm>It’s also interesting that TP’s own linked story actually suggests a >different reason for the oil price hike than the war; to the authors, the >dramatic price increase is a reflection of the falling dollar.
Riiiight…because it couldnt possibly be two different reasons because nothing ever happens for more than one reason right?
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 pmIn other words, if someone gets shot and thrown out a window, it must have been the fall that killed him?…. someone needs to dig up anna nicole smith and tell her that her death couldnt possibly have been the results of multiple factors…
as far as Heir Rove:
Welcome to the 2009 republican meme: anything bad that happens is the result of the democrats running the show. I’m almost glad Kerry lost in 2004, because everything thats going wrong now because of years of bush idiocy would be getting blamed on kerry…
Comment by FearandSmear — March 2, 2008 @ 10:21 pm
March 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 pmGood comment. Same with Iraq. Take the disastrous invasion/occupation, amplify it into a terrorist conflagration if the disaster is addressed by a withdrawal and throw it in their opponents lap.
You have to be a complete idiot to listen to Karl Rove at this point… a complete idiot
March 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 amyeh just bung the price of your war onto petrol prices in dollars ……….to cover America s loss………great idea - NOT
March 3rd, 2008 at 8:06 amMore REICH WING fearmongering.
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:19 amU.S. Rep. David Davis (R-TN) in our local paper yesterday blamed the Democrats for the high gas prices, stating that House Leader Nancy Pelosi promised to fix the energy problem when the Dems won control in 2006. He said that increasing taxes on businesses (in this case, the oil industry) doesn’t work, because he’s “never seen a business that pays for a tax increase.” His reasoning is that companies raise their prices to cover any increased taxes, thus passing along the tax payments to their customers.
Davis conveniently ignores the increases in oil and gas prices since Bush took office (6 years of which Congress saw the Republicans in the majority).
March 3rd, 2008 at 9:45 pmSure there could be other reasons. In fact, there are other reasons. But the article gives no indication that the war is one of them, and they emphasize the dollar aspect. The point is that, if you take this article for what it’s worth, you should not be given the impression that the Iraq war is having a substantial impact of oil prices. These prices would be high anyway.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:15 am