One of the defining principles to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it’s own people; THE FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY. Thus The Fourth Amendment.

R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…

And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When Americans and America lose that Right and freedom, who wins?

WHAT DOES CONGRESS SUPPORT AND DEFEND IF NOT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA?

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Comment by Doc Rock — March 3, 2008 @ 3:26 pm

I will vote against any that do! In fact I’m toying with the idea of Running against Tim Murphy (R) PA for getting up and walking out of the house 2 weeks ago with the rest of the enablers when the Dems were bringing up the contempt issue right before the last break. And Also for his support if Telecom immunity.

Comment by Fritz — March 3, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

Glad to hear it! Good on ya!

Mr. Edwards, how about a class action suit on warrantless spying?

This is a presumption of guilt for All Americans.

It’s rumoured that with news of this breaking week, some people with AT&T accounts have started switching to other providers. Of course, with so many peering agreements, it’s not likely to make much of a difference, but it is still a statement. That said, the government likely has similar installations at other major providers – in fact Qwest is the only provider known to openly refuse government requests for wholesale, warrantless access to date.

Comment by bilbobaggins — March 3, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

even they wouldn’t touch an overt smear like that, but not our gg!

(apologies again for being ot)

But at the same time, if the industry doesn’t want immunity, why are we even considering it.

well thats all your right s gone in one democratic vote ( literally ) ha ha

And as long as you’re not doing something they don’t like then they consider your privacy NOT VIOLATED.

This is total bullshit. And they cannot do it without the goddamn phone companies.

http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/government-spying-on-all-att-whistleblower-mark-klein

If the Bush government and the Telcos do not pay for their crimes AND stop the Data Mining and Pattern Recognition our country is finished.

I’ll give you a hint – it may be sarcasm.

I certainly hope you aren’t expecting an “I was wrong” from gg. Not going to happen.

What amazes me about that story is that it has not been reported on Faux Noise. I would have thought they would be all over it.

torture was one