Heavy voter turnout in Texas.
By on Mar 4th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Heavy voter turnout in Texas.
The Dallas News reports that already, polling places are experiencing a “crush” of voters for today’s primary elections. The Texas Secretary of State office said that “early voters last week had already surpassed the total early-voting numbers for both the 1996 and 2000 elections,” and that interest is expected to continue today. GOP polling sites, however, “were not as busy.”
UPDATE: Burnt Orange Report has more.
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I have a feeling that all the predictions from the political pundits are going to be wrong…. again.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:05 pmThis is bad news for Hillary.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pmWhat I have to wonder is what will happen when there is one candidate??? There seems to be so much animosity between Obama supporters and Clinton supporters, and me being more of a worry-wort by the day, that I can’t help but think that the ones who are left out will either go away and not do anything, or – horror or horrors, vote for McbushCain.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pmyea – the GOP race is 99.5% decided that their candidate is an idiot.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:09 pmGOP polling sites, however, “were not as busy.â€
March 4th, 2008 at 1:09 pmJust like GOP senators.
muzz, I don’t think Clinton supporters will vote McCain out of spite.
My folks are both diehard Clinton advocates, and neither would ever consider McShame as a viable alternative.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:10 pmGOP polling sites however, had mostly lobbyists show up to vote, by emptying their wallets into special boxes marked ‘donation’.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:11 pmI would suspect that more Clinton supporters would vote for Obama than Huckabee supporters would vote for McCain. Just a hunch.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly
Its hear its because McCain is making many of the GOP stay home.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pmComment by RUCerious — March 4, 2008 @ 1:11 pm
March 4th, 2008 at 1:14 pm—————–
I think you’re right. Despite the harsh tone of the Dem campaign, I think everyone will kiss and make up well before the general election – in plenty of time to stomp McCain into the ground. We just need to win by a large enough margin to prevent the third straight theft of a Presidential election by the Repukes.
RUCurious – I hope you’re right. I’m for Obama big time, and would vote for Hillary (not with much enthusiasm though)
March 4th, 2008 at 1:14 pmObama by 10% in Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and by 30% in Vermont. For some cheap laughs, check out: http://www.johnmccainisyourjalopy.com/.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly
Its hear its because McCain is making many of the GOP stay home.
Comment by Xisithrus
My republican friends are not at all impressed with the “same-old, same-old” from McDisdain, but are eagerly, enthusiastically voting for Obama, ALL THE WAY.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmGOP polling sites, however, “were not as busy.â€
And this, my friends, (puke) will be the downfall of the Republican party. I don’t care what 1,000+ carefully chosen people across the country say in a poll. The fact that the Democrats will outvote the Republicans in a significant manner, coupled with all the new young voters, will crush the Republicans.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmIt’s sad watching Republicans try to cough up some enthusiasm for their own candidate.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Gigi tried to float this rationalization yesterday, and was shot down, largely on the basis that this dynamic has been consistent throughout the primary season.
Gigi wisely chose to ignore this truth, as it completely destroys her rationalization.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly
This idiot troll still can’t deal with the fact that the Democrats have been seriously out-voting the Republicans from the first primary (you know, back when the Republican primary was still a race). This out-voting has remained consistent. So the troll’s refrain that people aren’t voting because they know that McBush will be the candidate is hogwash.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pmIt’s sad watching Republicans try to cough up some enthusiasm for their own candidate.
Comment by Perry logan — March 4, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
A repuglycan hairball is a terrible thing to watch get hatched.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Great minds think alike! It’s like we were channeling each other!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
I’ll bet all the Republican candidates for state and local offices are just tickled that your side doesn’t see any reason to come out and vote.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:22 pmHeadline should read
Heavy Republican Burnout in Texas
March 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pmWhat I have to wonder is what will happen when there is one candidate??? There seems to be so much animosity between Obama supporters and Clinton supporters, and me being more of a worry-wort by the day, that I can’t help but think that the ones who are left out will either go away and not do anything, or – horror or horrors, vote for McbushCain.
Comment by muzz
Don’t worry about it muzz. The Democrats are fired up and the fire is not going to go away. All the Democrats I know who want Hillary to win will be just as happy to have Obama win. They are not going to vote for McBush and they are certainly not going to sit the election out.
The only thing I can see that would seriously disrupt the Democratic fire would be if Hillary refused to give up. I certainly hope she doesn’t do that. It would hurt her party, but it would destroy her and also Bill Clinton’s legacy.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pmLet’s not forget there is a senior group of Democrats (Gore, Carter, current and former Senators and Governors) who are huddling up to figure out how best to leverage the convention to gain party unity. If they have to bargain with Bill and Hill to bail in return for an SCOTUS nomination, or some other plum, they will figure this out.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly
Wow gigi, quite a knack for the obvious you have. And you’re so impressed with your ability you have to burden the rest of us with it. Next time you have a thought, why don’t you keep it to yourself?
March 4th, 2008 at 1:29 pm.
I want to know what the vote in BRATTLEBORO Vt. is today.
To indict, or not to indict…
… THAT is the question.
Shhhhh…
We don’t talk indictment nor impeachment here though, so no spotlight… RIGHT TP?
.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pmTo indict, or not to indict…
… THAT is the question.
And we’ll know at about 8PM eastern time, won’t we.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmI wanted Edwards, but I’ll be happy to vote for Obama, and I’ll vote against McCain not matter who I have to vote for. Hell, I voted for Mondale and Dukakis…
March 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmLooks like Senator Clinton supporters are coming out in force today. In my opinion, most of Obama’s primary votes came from Republicans, not Democrats. I hope that Obama does the right thing and steps aside for the good of the Democratic Party and America.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:35 pmComment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
Keep talkin to me guys. I just can’t handle another four years of this crap. I live in Denver, and am so much looking forward to the convention. Obama supporters here are fired up, and he won huge here, and it’s going to be one rockin’ city in August if Obama is the one to take the stage at the Pepsi Center.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pm.
#9 Comment by RUCerious — March 4, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
LOL
TrueNuff.
At our caucus here in Seattle, Wa. the dude standing up and speaking for (s0Hillary went on and on as to how she is the most qualified to be elected president and how he can see himself voting for Obama in 2012…
… If his (s)Hillary gets elected in 2008, she’ll need his support in 2012 to get reelected. So, why isn’t she good enough to get that support now?
Many shills of Hillary’s(sorry sHillary fans) can’t keep their loyalty straight, even when they try. The mouth has one hole, not two sides.
.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pmFor what it may or may not be worth, my SW Ohio precinct which went about 70% for Bush in “04 (*sigh*) had slightly more Dem than R ballots taken as of 8:00 a.m. with two people in front of me signing off on the change of party affidavit to switch from R to D. This is in a precinct with contested congressional and county commission races on the R side so I don’t think there is any concerted plan for Republicans to try to screw up the Dem primary. There is just more interest on the Dem side. Don’t know how the turnout will be with the weather awful pretty much statewide but our poll workers were clearly surprised at the early turnout.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:38 pmThe only thing I can see that would seriously disrupt the Democratic fire would be if Hillary refused to give up. I certainly hope she doesn’t do that. It would hurt her party, but it would destroy her and also Bill Clinton’s legacy.
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
Well, that is indeed the question. As you and I have discussed before, Bilbo, losing this nomination gracefully would be the best possible thing for HRC. I am just not sure losing gracefully is anywhere in the Clinton DNA. We’ll know more tomorrow, but she said yesterday “she was just getting warmed up.”
March 4th, 2008 at 1:40 pmGigi wisely chose to ignore this truth, as it completely destroys her rationalization.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
GG wouldn’t know truth if it walked up and slammed GG on the head with a 10 pound sledge
March 4th, 2008 at 1:40 pmAttention all you Blue Dogs who are thinking about giving away our constitution in the Telecom debacle.
The Mob Rules.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:43 pmThe Mob Rules:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fN5q_uoEljk
This is my 2008 election theme song. Enjoy.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:46 pmAwwww, poor Goony! You Pukes get to choose between a senile old warmongering loser and a God-smacked crackpot – !
No wonder you’re so depressed!
They have medications for that, you know. Just sayin’.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pmMax-1, I caucused in Bothell, at Crystal Springs elementary. Our precinct went 49/14 Obama.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pmDoes anybody here know if the Texas primary is an open one? If it’s not, then Republicans who support McCain might not feel the effort to vote is worth it, as most of them doubt Huckabee is a threat.
If it is open, there might be some crossover voting. Either could explain the shorter GOP lines.
Of course, it could also be that there’s more enthusiasm on the Dem side.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pmComment by Leftside Annie — March 4, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
Giving aid and comfort to gigi, huh>? How liberal of you!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pmGG wouldn’t know truth if it walked up and slammed GG on the head with a 10 pound sledge
Comment by Wayne — March 4, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
Coulda sworn that’d been done, already, repeatedly…
March 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pmThe GOP race is 99.5% decided, while the Dems race is still undecided. Of course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
The last time this troll trotted this point out, I pointed out that this trend has continued from the very beginning of the primary season. Sorry, piss-soaked troll, but the Republican party is being trounced in Primary season, regardless of HOW much your cherry-picked polls say McCain is going to win.
The Republican Nomination was not settled back in January, and from day ONE, the Democratic turnout has thrashed the Republicans, and the real nail in your coffin, troll, is the fact that _my_ group, the independents, are breaking to the Democrats 2 to 1, or worse.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:51 pmAfter the results come in from Ohio and later Pennsylvania, we expect to see the Clintons take the Democratic nomination. The question is, will the Obama people support Hillary when she wins the nomination or will they vote for McCain?
March 4th, 2008 at 1:54 pmOf course more Democrats would show up under these circumstances.
Stupid Comment by good_golly
And they are going to out number the repukian scum 2 to 1 on Nov, get used to it, scumbag.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pmI knew someone had cleverly pointed out the fallacy of Gigi’s thinking, Jeremy. Had I recalled that it was you, I would have credited you with the take-down.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pmTexas is open primary.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:58 pmI want to know what the vote in BRATTLEBORO Vt. is today.
To indict, or not to indict…
… THAT is the question.
Comment by Max-1 — March 4, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Go Vermont!!!!
Madame Speaker, Are you paying attention?
March 4th, 2008 at 1:58 pmComment by missmolly — March 4, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Missmolly, Obama has received more votes from crossover Republicans than from Democrats in this primary. Most Democrats don’t even know who Obama really is. If Obama wins because of Republican crossovers, McCain will win in 2008.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:00 pmMost of the repubs here in Sarasota that I have talked with have said they will not vote for any republican candidates at the State, Local or Federal level ever again.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:02 pmGG wouldn’t know truth if it walked up and slammed GG on the head with a 10 pound sledge
Comment by Wayne — March 4, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
I’d feel better about this assertion if the actual experiment was conducted.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pmRush Limbaugh urges Texas Republicans to cross over and vote Hillary
March 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pmNP, Ralph…if gg had gotten the memo the first time around, I’d not be pionting out yet again the error in its logic.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pmComment by ennealogic — March 4, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
And I’m sure that Anne Coulter would second that.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pm.
#37 Comment by RUCerious — March 4, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
Lowell School, Cap. Hill.
Our Precinct went 114/34/1
Obama, Clinton, Kucinich.
I was THAT Kucinich person. They didn’t let me say a word. So, I didn’t switch.
.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:08 pmRush Limbaugh urges Texas Republicans to cross over and vote Hillary
Comment by ennealogic — March 4, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
Of course he is… I hope I live long enough to dance on his grave.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:08 pmGOPers don’t care to vote now. That way, when McCain loses in the fall, they can say that didn’t support him anyway.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pm.
#48 Comment by ennealogic — March 4, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
Many pissed off Republicans are Hot for Hillary.
ShemAnn Coultergeist and Limpballs to name a few.
So,
As a registered Democrat, why should I vote WITH the Republicans?
.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:12 pmb!tchy stoopid comments like this make you wonder:
“I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.”
sounds like she wants to be john mcCREEPY’s vice president!
(h/t rachel maddow on keith)
how the hell do you “make nice” after that?
what a very stOOpid thing to say.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pmDo any other states offer more days to vote ? Texas always has at least a week, weekends included . Complaints from other areas usually are about the one day allowed for voting, unless using a absentee ballot.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pm39 – Yes, RU. I’m a helper. ;o)
Heheh!
~A
March 4th, 2008 at 2:17 pmComment by Max-1 — March 4, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Good for you, standing up for your principles.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:17 pmI was supporting
1. Kucinich, until he bailed
2. Edwards, until he bailed
3. Obama
4. Clinton
5. Anybody besides good golly or McCain.
Obama is expected to win a landslide in Vermont, which one Democratic operative calls “the capital of latte liberals”. I’ve never been to Starbucks and I’ve never had a latte. Maybe that’s the reason why I’ve never understood Obamamania.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:27 pm5. Anybody besides good golly or McCain.
Comment by RUCerious — March 4, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
At one time, I might have said Gigi would make a better president than MC Cain, because people would see straight off that she was an idiot and would not get caught up in her twisted agenda.
But witnessing BushCo has put an end to those kind of fantasies. I’m quite certain Gigi would assemble her own core group of 19%ers who would support her no matter how many Cockapoo puppies she strangled with her bare hands on the WH lawn.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:32 pmFor a long time, I felt that I would be happy with either Clinton or Obama, although I always favored Obama. In recent weeks, I have seen the rethuglican style tactics employed by the Clinton campaign, and if she wins the nomination because of that, she will be as dirty as George Bush.
Her campaign workers are referring to Obama as Osama bin Laden and they saying it was a slip of the tongue.
Her ads featuring Obama, are darkened to make him look “blacker” (playing to racists)
Her equivocal reply about whether Obama is Christian
Her comparing Obama unfavorably to McCain
These are real turn offs to me and I see the win-at-all-costs campaign in action. I don’t want a president who steals an election with lies and distortions – been there done that.
Go, Obama.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pmAs a Texas Democrat I had to laugh this morning when the polls opened at 7 am and there were many of us standing in line to vote. When I left there was one solitary Republican voter signing in, and he was one of the local Federal Judges. I think that the tide is turning against the stranglehold that the GOP has had for years on Texas politics. I voted for Obama, but if Hillary is the nominee I will vote for her, even if I have to hold my nose to do it. No more Republicans!
March 4th, 2008 at 2:34 pmThis is in a precinct with contested congressional and county commission races on the R side so I don’t think there is any concerted plan for Republicans to try to screw up the Dem primary. There is just more interest on the Dem side. Don’t know how the turnout will be with the weather awful pretty much statewide but our poll workers were clearly surprised at the early turnout.
Just to demonstrate to goon_golly that it’s theory about Republicans not showing up because the nomination is McCain’s is demonstrably false. There are more people to vote for than President on all ballots, so any Republican who didn’t show up to vote in the primary will probably not show up to vote in November. It shows that they are completely turned off on this election.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmComment by Marie — March 4, 2008 @ 2:33 pm
Karl Rove is winning again.
:(
March 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pmJust to demonstrate to goon_golly that it’s theory about Republicans not showing up because the nomination is McCain’s is demonstrably false…
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
Not to worry, bilbo.
Evidently, Gigi knew her argument was a loser so she just pulled a hit-and-run. Didn’t even stick around to defend herself. Just farted then left the room.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:47 pmb!tchy stoopid comments like this make you wonder:
“I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.â€
Every time Clinton talks about her 35 years of experience I have to shake my head. She has been a Senator for 8 years. That is her only experience. Being a first lady doesn’t count. She makes it sound like she was negotiating treaties and working side-by-side with Bill while he was President. She talks about all the countries she visited. Well, she did do that, but all she did was shake hands and act like the good wife. That IS NOT “international experience”.
I’ll take Obama’s experience, thank you very much. He has spent most of his adult life working as a community organizer or holding public office. Just because he was a State Senator doesn’t mean he wasn’t experienced. He may not have “international” experience, but he can certainly find a Vice President who does and that’s what I expect him to do. I expect him to surround himself with the “best and the brightest” and then listen to what they have to say. Unlike Bush who surrounded himself with sycophants who only told him what he wanted to hear.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pmIf it is open, there might be some crossover voting. Either could explain the shorter GOP lines.
Of course, it could also be that there’s more enthusiasm on the Dem side.
Comment by missmolly
It is open in that they can switch the party ticket they get. But they can’t “pick and choose” like voting for Hillary and then voting for other Republicans on the ballot. So, to vote for Hillary, they will have to give up the ability to decide other Republican races on the ballot. I don’t think many Republicans in Texas will do that.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:56 pmI just read this on the Huffington Post. After this, I’m not sure I could vote for Hillary. This is so Karl Rove. How low can this woman sink?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I don’t think many Republicans in Texas will do that.
Comment by bilbobaggins
Yet Texas is a HUGE state, so if 10% of Repubs cross, which they have been (mostly white males), that’s a big number.
Only the bluest of the blue hairs will still vote straight Repub party ticket.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:07 pmComment by bilbobaggins
Sadly, Hillary has morphed into the desperate candidate, while Obama continues to strengthen his confidence.
Going to sign caucus petition tonight, yippee!
March 4th, 2008 at 3:09 pm“There seems to be so much animosity between Obama supporters and Clinton supporters…”
Comment by muzz — March 4, 2008 @ 1:07 pm
I’m not terribly worried about that. Everybody I know who supports either Clinton or Obama has told me they would vote for the other one against McCain if their candidate doesn’t get the nomination. I haven’t found any Democrat yet who claims to hate the “other” Democratic candidate so much that they would vote for McCain.
I suspect that a lot of this “animosity” is merely media hype — an attempt to keep the race interesting. The media needn’t worry; the race is already interesting.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:15 pmjust read this on the Huffington Post. After this, I’m not sure I could vote for Hillary. This is so Karl Rove. How low can this woman sink?
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
I’m with you — negative campaigning such as this generally incents me to vote AGAINST the candidate responsible for it, especially when it has “dirty trick” written all over it.
It would be ironic if Clinton got the nomination and then lost to McCain in November because voters felt her campaign was the ugliest. But I think these tactics will keep her from getting the nomination in the first place. Americans are weary of Rovian campaigning.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:20 pmDo any other states offer more days to vote ? Texas always has at least a week, weekends included . Complaints from other areas usually are about the one day allowed for voting, unless using a absentee ballot.
Comment by texaslady
We vote by mail here in Oregon. I think the ballots hit our mailboxes around a month before the election date. I know it’s a pretty long time. I wish all states would go to vote by mail. It’s so quick, easy and efficient. And there will always be a paper trail of how you voted.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:28 pmI’m with you — negative campaigning such as this generally incents me to vote AGAINST the candidate responsible for it, especially when it has “dirty trick†written all over it.
Add that to the ad she released the other day with Obama’s face darkened considerably, my disgust for Hillary Clinton is now total and complete.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:37 pm” I haven’t found any Democrat yet who claims to hate the “other†Democratic candidate so much that they would vote for McCain.”
Honestly, a few years ago, before they were even campaigning, I said that I would vote for McCain over Clinton if they are the nominees. I still would except for all of the pandering to the far right that he’s done since then… He lost all of his viability for me, but I still don’t think that I could even “hold my nose” and vote for Hillary. I believe that, at heart, she’s still pro-warand has only been doing her own kind of pandering, too.
I dunno…
An interesting side-note is that all of my scientist-type friends will be voting for McCain because he’s a lot better for the environment than even Obama. Go figure, huh?
My issue is the War and neither Clinton nor McCain seem viable to me. I don’t care what she “says” on the campaign trail, she seems to vote the wrong way every chance she gets and, unfortunately, can not be trusted as far as I can tell.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:44 pmFor anyone who has any doubts about Hillary being engaged in a scorched earth policy with regards to this election, doubt no more:
Apparently Hillary Clinton has essentially said that due to experience both she and McCain would make better presidents than Obama…
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2…..6372.shtml
Stick a fork in her, she’s DONE. I don’t hate Hillary Clinton, she probably would make a good president, I think Obama would be better…but for CHRIST’S SAKE she just endosed a Republican for President…HER POSSIBLE REPUBLICAN RIVAL!!!! WTF!?
Now, this is not to say that Hillary supporters would go and vote for McCain just because their favored candidate did something this completely idiotic and treacherous, but really…Any Hillary supporters on TP right now want to try and justify this?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:47 pmHow will they count all the votes? Oh, right. No counting necessary…
March 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pmI spoke with a long time friend that turned Fundamentalist about 10 years ago. She is probably the only Fundamentalist that I will spend any time with and that’s because our friendship spans over 30 years. So today, she asked me who I was voting for and I told her that I support Barack Obama. I asked her who she was voting for and she paused and then said Huckabee and then she added, “he probably won’t win the nomination so I’ll probably stay home and not vote in the general election”. If her comments are indicative of how Fundamentalists feel about the November election, then Republicans will be screwed and Democrats running for Congress will ride into office on the coattails of Barack Obama.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:49 pmI had a Republican tell me that he would never vote for McCain or Clinton.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:51 pmComment by Cats r Flyfishn — March 4, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
I have a similar friend and situation. She already voted for Obama as well as her life-long Republican voting parents.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:09 pmSouthern Man is an idiot. It can’t get the simple fact that in _primaries_, you can’t choose to vote for a Democratic Presidential Candidate, a Republican Senatorial Candidate, a Democratic House Candidate, and a Republican Statehouse candidate unless the primaries are truly open. If you’re going to vote in the Republican primary, you give up voting in the Democratic primary, in the vast majority of the cases.
For instance, I am an independent. Though I support Obama for President (and wouldn’t vote McCain as dog-catcher), my support for Obama in the primaries is limited to a sign in my window, because I do not identify myself as Democrat. Also, since I’m not Republican either, I couldn’t spoil the election and vote for Ron Paul, the ONLY Republican candidate I would think about voting Dog-catcher…
March 4th, 2008 at 4:13 pmI don’t understand this reasoning. You have to vote party line when voting? If i’m a democrat, I have to only vote for democrats or my vote is not counted? If I like a democrat for president and a republican for dog catcher, my vote is voided because I didn’t vote party line? I thought you could vote for whoever you liked best?
Comment by Southern Man — March 4, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
It’s a primary ballot, not a general election ballot. People are voting to determine who will represent that party in the general election. So, yes, everyone on the ballot is from the same party.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:17 pmThanks for the clarification.
Comment by Southern Man — March 4, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
Some people have proposed an open primary ballot with the top two vote getters going on to the general election, regardless of party affiliation. I’m not sure it would work, but I have to admit it’s fascinating. Party officials, obviously, hate the idea.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:29 pmmore dirty pool, via randi rhodes:
Clinton’s Texas strategy: Take control of caucus sign-in sheets and vote tallies especially “if our supporters are outnumbered.”
.
Tough Caucus Strategy
3:31 PM Sat, Mar 01, 2008
Hillary Clinton and her campaign is pushing for precinct captains for Texas’ 8,000 Democratic polling places. They need to train folks to lead the caucus sessions that will determine more than 60 delegates after the primary voting is over.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:35 pmIn training materials being handed out by the Clinton campaign, it is clear that they want to control those caucus sessions.
The materials say in part, “DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles.
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http://trailblazers.beloblog.com/archives/2008/03/caucus-strategy.html
also from randi:
Rush Limbaugh is urging his listeners in Texas to vote for Hillary Clinton saying it helps the Republicans if the Democratic race remains unsettled for weeks to come.
(link doesn’t work – but you can find one… you know it’s true)
as randi opines, limpballs expects hillary to do the dirty work of
sliming obama for the repugs…
sounds logical to me…
March 4th, 2008 at 4:44 pmIt’s sad watching Republicans try to cough up some enthusiasm for their own candidate.
Comment by Perry logan — March 4, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Really? I like it. Alot. :-)
March 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmThe materials say in part, “DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles.
http://trailblazers.beloblog.com/ archives/ 2008/ 03/ caucus-strategy.html
Comment by katy
OMG, that is so Republican. If you can’t win honestly, cheat. God I hope she gets her ass kicked today. She deserves it.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:49 pmArg…forgot, SM isn’t a troll. *sigh* Sorry ’bout that.
Yes, primary, not general.
Now excuse me. I gotta go check to see if my roast crow is done yet.
(Damn trolls, makes me mad so I lash out at people I shouldn’t)
March 4th, 2008 at 4:49 pmand i posted this the other day, but it needs repeated some more…
and, a little bit ‘o’ rubbin’ it in…
“one of Clinton’s laws of politics… you better vote
for the person who wants you to think and HOPE”
YAY!!!!!
http://samsedershow.com/node/2554
March 4th, 2008 at 4:56 pmRush Limbaugh is urging his listeners in Texas to vote for Hillary Clinton saying it helps the Republicans if the Democratic race remains unsettled for weeks to come.
Comment by katy — March 4, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
Not necessarily. I think there’s a real benefit to a good fight for the nomination. One, it keeps the candidates in the forefront of the news. Two, the winning candidate may be made stronger for the general election. It certainly drives fundraising more vigorously and for a longer period of time. Plus I don’t think the wounds inflicted in the primaries are generally that deep and they heal quickly once the general campaign begins.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:57 pmThe materials say in part, “DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles.
I’ll be there tonight to speak up, when necessary.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:46 pmComment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
That’s exactly the kind of Rovian tactic that I so despise. I am so disappointed in the campaign she has run that I am angry with her. I hope and pray she is not the nominee.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:00 pmWhen she is in a tight spot, she fights dirty.
Arg…forgot, SM isn’t a troll. *sigh* Sorry ’bout that.
(Damn trolls, makes me mad so I lash out at people I shouldn’t)
Comment by Jeremy in Denver
Southern Man isn’t a troll? When did that happen? When did he morph from a troll to not a troll?
March 4th, 2008 at 6:09 pmSouthern Man isn’t a troll? When did that happen? When did he morph from a troll to not a troll?
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 6:09 pm
He’s sort of morphed into a hybrid. I’ve noticed a concerted effort on his part to actually discuss stuff sometimes, instead of just always dropping troll turds in the walkway like he used to do. He doesn’t always make sense, but he seems to be trying. Sometimes.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:21 pmJust hours before Obama will tell the sheep that 5 pct Hillary “won” Texas and Ohio, a reminder:
Loser John McCain to President Hillary Clinton, the Horrible Truth about YOU
Did you ever wonder why after each victory of John McCain in the primaries the media serves the same images of a few dozen people “cheering”?
The answer: McCain is supported by as many people as George W. Bush, i.e. 1 pct of the population. He did not manage to ever break the 1,000 barrier for an audience, including the large share of paid campaign personnel.
Why did the illuminati stage the 2008 US elections as John McCain losing to Hillary Clinton, supported by less than 5 pct of the population, after staging the “close as it can get” victory of Clinton against the “hope of change for America”, supported by 80 pct of the “voters”, “black” “ex-muslim” Obama (1)?
Why did the illuminati openly tell the sheep in 2006 some of the truth about 9/11, e.g. that the WTC towers were demolished? (2)
See Notes and Answer here:
March 4th, 2008 at 6:49 pmhttp://end-times-data.blogspot.com/2008/02/loser-john-mccain-to-clinton-horrible.html
THAT really bodes WELL for republicans in the general election, Heh heh heh……G.O.P.=R.I.P.
Comment by raymundohpl — March 4, 2008 @ 3:11 pm
R.I.P. = ROT IN PRISON!!
March 4th, 2008 at 6:50 pm