McCain Hasn’t Changed Website To Reflect His Embrace Of Bush’s Plan To Privatize Social Security
McCain Hasn’t Changed Website To Reflect His Embrace Of Bush’s Plan To Privatize Social Security
In an interview published in the Wall Street Journal yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) abandoned his plan for Social Security, in which he proposes “supplementing the current Social Security system with personal accounts.” Instead, McCain told the WSJ that “as part of Social Security reform, I believe that private savings accounts are a part of it — along the lines that President Bush proposed.”
Asked about the contradiction between his website and his own statements, McCain said he would “correct any policy paper that I’ve put out.” As of today, however, his website still hasn’t been changed to reflect his embrace of Bush:
As Steve Benen notes, McCain is now aligning himself with “Bush’s biggest domestic policy debacle.” In 2005, when President Bush was pushing his plan to privatize Social Security, 55 percent of Americans believed that it was “a bad idea to change the Social Security system” while only 36 percent of Americans approved of how Bush was handling the issue.
McCain fails to understand that replacing the current Social Security system “in whole or in part, with personal investment accounts” would likely “make things worse.” This should come as no surprise though, as even members of his own campaign team admit he is unprepared for a “policy wonk debate“:
“If this comes down to some policy wonk debate between McCain and Hillary or Obama, well, we’re not going to win that one,” is how a John McCain political adviser, in a recent chat with me, assessed the Republican presidential candidate.
McCain’s Social Security flip-flop is yet another example of his cluelessness on economic issues.
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flip-flop?
speaking of flip flop, where’s gg?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:56 amNow we know why Bush has been looking so disoriented lately, Cheney’s removed the controlling device and put it on McCain….
March 4th, 2008 at 11:05 amTroglodyte & Liar - John McCain
March 4th, 2008 at 11:05 am“but not as a substitute for benefit promises that cannot be kept” sounds like it was written by a lobbyist for the securities industry.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:06 amStraight talk down his pants leg!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:08 amMaybe his “tubes” are clogged…
March 4th, 2008 at 11:12 amthese pugs are so clueless and UNempathetic…
if folks COULD save money they would…
just like medical insurance, if they could afford it they would have it…
just clueless, selfserving, self-righteous idjits…
March 4th, 2008 at 11:12 am8 - Yeah, Goony. OF COURSE you don’t.
That’s OK. We understand how difficult it must be for you.
Now be a good boy and take your pills.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:15 amcaption:
Dubya: How long is yours?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:15 amMcCain: (grins…)
From the website text, “…benefit promises that can not be kept.”
This is a LIE that has to be shot down as long as the right keeps lying. Any who knows the facts about Social Security’s finances knows there is no crisis and that there will never be one unless the US RGDP, economic growth averages a measly 2.07% per year over the next 30 years. If this happens then the US will face serious societal problems that have absolutely nothing to do with Social Secuity.
Even if RGDP growth is an anemic 2.07% per year, then it will take exactly increasing the FICA tax 1.035% in 2040 on both employer and employee and Social Security will be able to pay 100% of benefits.
If the economy limps along then even in 2040, Social Security will pay approximately 74 to 80% of benefits with no changes whatsoever. And, in terms of goods and services these fractional benefits will be greater than 100% of benefits paid today!
Enough of the lies about Social Security! ENOUGH!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:15 amMcInsane once again proves that the two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. As Shiller once said, ‘against stupidity the Gods themselves struggle in vain.’
March 4th, 2008 at 11:16 amImpeach Cheney and Bush and Save the Constitution.
Is the Pander Express trying to throw the election?
I mean, it’s not a bad strategy for the Repubes; fu(k up the economy and the government so badly that the next president will be unable to accomplsh anything beyond cleaning up the edges of the sh!tpile, make sure a Democrat is the next president, then blame him or her for the mess the Repubes created, sweep him or her out of power, and install Jebby to finish the job.
It’s brilliant! And McCain is following the evil plan to a T.
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Ralph, you may be on to something. The next president is being handed a big steamy pile that’s going to stink up the whole place. I wouldn’t put it past the leaders of the republican party to blame others instead of taking responsibility for this mess.
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March 4th, 2008 at 11:23 am#11 - “Enough of the lies about Social Security! ENOUGH!!!” Comment by stewarjt — March 4, 2008 @ 11:15 am
Another inconvenient fact that the anti-Social Security crowd refuses to remember: the US owes trillions to Social Security. All overpayments to Social Security have been used to pay for each years budget. The “lock box” for Social Security funds never existed.
Counting the trillions that the US owes Social Security, it will remain stable for the next 50 years at the very least.
It’s only the anti-Social Security crowd that wants the US to default on the promise to pay back all the loans they’ve forced out of the SOcial Security surplus.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:33 amThe next president is being handed a big steamy pile that’s going to stink up the whole place.
Comment by hellinabucket
This is exactly what happened in Michigan.
John Engler, Republican, who promised not to serve more than two terms, served three, and in that last term completed his evisceration of the state, leaving the new Democratic governor Jennifer Granholm, massive state debt and one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Still. After 6 years. (Granholm won re-election)
Engler pandered to oil and gas, the timber industry, and big business.
Engler is currently the head of the National Association of Manufacturers, the largest industry trade group in America.
Cheney and Co. are doing the same exact thing to America as was done to Michigan.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:34 amThe robber barons suck the people dry, and then skip town.
Oh, crap, his flippin is getting ahead of his floppin!
What a revoltin development!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:39 amEnough of the lies about Social Security! ENOUGH!!!
Comment by stewarjt — March 4, 2008 @ 11:15 am
And just lifting the $96,000 cap would ensure it even further, not to mention removing a tax break for the well to do. Yes, if you make over $96,000 you are well off. Stop gigi, before you even say it.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:41 amPrivatization of SS is code for - Wall Street Wankers Take All Your Money While You Get Jacked.
Privatization of Government Services is code for - All My Cronies Get Big Money While Not Delivering Services For Those Contracts and They Can Contribute Part Back to My Campaign.
Learn to read between the lines on these Aholes.
Bush/Cheney
March 4th, 2008 at 11:41 amHague Trials ‘09
See no contradiction, Hear no contradiction, Speak no contradiction, Do no contradiction.
I can just imagine the cute little desk display featuring GWB, our least favorite chimp, in four little poses representing the “Hypocrite’s Creed”.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:52 amOh boy, lets be hyper-critical of him for not updating his website. [getalife]
March 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pmThe Bush plan for Social security was a good start. Taking 2% of the 14% and putting it in to a private account to keep it out of the government’s hands. If I had a choice in the matter I would take the whole 14% and move it to a private account. I would rather not depend on the government for my retirement.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:09 pmI would rather not depend on the government for my retirement.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
Who’s stopping VA Voom from putting money away for its own retirement? I wasn’t aware that Social Security forbade such a thing.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:25 pmO.K. Goo Goo, I am going to type slowly so you can understand the contradiction. The McCain site calls for private accounts to “supplement” (i.e. add to) traditional Social Security. The Bush plan calls for diverting payroll taxes (i.e. subtract) from Social Security to place in private investment accounts. One plan adds money to a governmental program while the other is a euphemism for starving a vital piece of what remains of the safety net. Even the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal figured out the contradiction. That’s why they called him on it.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pmWho’s stopping VA Voom from putting money away for its own retirement? I wasn’t aware that Social Security forbade such a thing.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
I do save on my own. Along with my 401K. But I would also like to have the 14% taken out of my paycheck without my permission and use it as well.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:34 pmHe speaks with a forked tongue.
McCain really thinks that he can have it both ways. Does he really think that it isn’t going to catch up to him?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:37 pmUmmmm, VooVoo, you only contribute half of that
March 4th, 2008 at 12:39 pmI do save on my own. Along with my 401K. But I would also like to have the 14% taken out of my paycheck without my permission and use it as well.
Comment by VA Voter
Use it well like investing in the stock market. I invested in the Stock Market. I lost over $200,000 of retirement money in the last crash. Not going to do it again. And I certainly hope that our only safety net, Social Security, is never invested in something so chancy.
So perhaps this idiot troll can tell us what it would do if it invested the retirement money in the stock market that is currently going into Social Security, and the stock market crashes. Where would it go to survive it’s retirement?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:40 pmWhere’d the other half of my comment go?
Anyhoo, I’d also like to get back all my tax dollars that went toward this illegal war and occupation, cause they spent them without my permission.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:41 pmOh boy, lets be hyper-critical of him for not updating his website. [getalife]
Comment by Repunklicans
No, we’re being hyper-critical about his hypocrisy. He tries to have it both ways, saying one thing in public but his website says something entirely different. That is pretty much what McCain has done from the start. He tells each audience what it wants to hear, even if he is contradicting himself. This is all going to come back to bite him once Obama is the candidate and starts pouring his huge war chest into advertisements that will show the public who and what McCain really is. Obama will have to do it, because our “liberal” MSM certainly isn’t going to expose McCain for the hypocrite he is.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:44 pmI wish people would quir calling Social Security an Entitlement. It is not an entitlement! We pay for our Social Security! Every penny that is being paid out in Social Security has been paid for by the people of the United States. Like another poster on here pointed out, the problem is that our wonderful greedy government got their hands on OUR Social Security money and felt they had the right to use it for whatever they wanted. If the Congress critters would put that money they stold from us back into the Social Security account Social Security would be just fine.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:45 pmI do save on my own. Along with my 401K. But I would also like to have the 14% taken out of my paycheck without my permission and use it as well.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:34 pm
But see, the SOCIAL SECURITY INSURANCE is there to protect PEOPLE LIKE YOU from YOURSELF! You’re WELCOME - TARD! ROTFL!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:45 pmThe Bush plan for Social security was a good start. Taking 2% of the 14% and putting it in to a private account to keep it out of the government’s hands. If I had a choice in the matter I would take the whole 14% and move it to a private account. I would rather not depend on the government for my retirement.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
ROTFL!! A GOOD START at DESTROYING ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND STABLE SYSTEMS IN THIS COUNTRY!!! HYSTERICAL how you TARDS wish to f**k EVERYTHING UP!!! What is it, self sabotage? Self hate? or just a HATE FOR YOUR COUNTRY?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pmMcCain Hasn’t Changed Website To Reflect His Embrace Of Bush’s Plan To Privatize Social Security
Why? The site will be valid again the next week.
McFlip-McFlop
March 4th, 2008 at 12:48 pmSo perhaps this idiot troll can tell us what it would do if it invested the retirement money in the stock market that is currently going into Social Security, and the stock market crashes. Where would it go to survive it’s retirement?
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
First I want to point out again that I don’t use personal attacks. Calling people troll because they don’t believe the same way you do is bordering on racism. Just so you know.
Second. I’m sorry you made a bad investment and lost that much money. But I tend to have mine in the lower risk accounts. I move some around just to dabble a bit. I also have an interest savings account with a bank.
Third, It shouldn’t matter what I do with the 14%. It’s my money. If I want to use it for retirement or DVDs, it shouldn’t matter to you or the government.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:48 pmThe Bush plan for Social security was a good start. Taking 2% of the 14% and putting it in to a private account to keep it out of the government’s hands. If I had a choice in the matter I would take the whole 14% and move it to a private account. I would rather not depend on the government for my retirement.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
All the gains I have made on my 401K for the last year have been wiped out in the last 6 months of this great Bush economy.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:50 pmBut see, the SOCIAL SECURITY INSURANCE is there to protect PEOPLE LIKE YOU from YOURSELF! You’re WELCOME - TARD! ROTFL!
Comment by republicans hate facts — March 4, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
Just like most Americans, I con’t need to be protected from myself.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:51 pmJust like most Americans, I con’t need to be protected from myself.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
ROTFL!!! Yeah, sure you don’t!!! HYSTERICAL!! You’d be homeless or starve to death if all of those silent facilities of the GuvMent weren’t taking care of you - YOU IGNORANT OLD TARD!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:53 pmmake sure a Democrat is the next president, then blame him or her for the mess the Repubes created, sweep him or her out of power, and install Jebby to finish the job.
It’s brilliant! And McCain is following the evil plan to a T.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
I really don’t think they will be able to get away with blaming this financial mess on the new Democratic President. Everyone except for the 19% that still think Bush is a God knows where the mess came from and who made it.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pmFirst I want to point out again that I don’t use personal attacks. Calling people troll because they don’t believe the same way you do is bordering on racism. Just so you know. Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Actually troll is a DESCRIPTIVE TERM that DESCRIBES BEHAVIOR not RACE - IGNORANT TARD! What it BORDERS ON in YOUR CASE is CLEARLY FACT!
Second. I’m sorry you made a bad investment and lost that much money. But I tend to have mine in the lower risk accounts. I move some around just to dabble a bit. I also have an interest savings account with a bank. Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
You haven’t lost THAT MUCH money? Well Social Security has never lost ANY MONEY through bad investment. So far they’ve got you beat - TARD!
Third, It shouldn’t matter what I do with the 14%. It’s my money. If I want to use it for retirement or DVDs, it shouldn’t matter to you or the government.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Except when you’re homeless and old, and society has to decide whether to use OUR MONEY to keep you off the streets or not - which is the situation that we had before social security! You may want to live in an third world uncivilized society - we don’t. So if that’s what you want, do us ALL A FAVOR and GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY YOU POS UNAMERICAN F**KER!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pmI guess it’s okay that Va Voom wants to go back to the days when, without a safety net, the elderly made up the greatest percentage of the poverty-stricken. After all, he’s got his, so why should anyone else benefit from the shared wealth of the most powerful economy in world history?
Va Voom doesn’t believe in bad luck. Va Voom seems to believe that everyone gets the luck they deserve, and therefore, if they used to work for Enron and their retirement account went up in a flash of Bush-style corporate wealth management, they deserve to work double shifts behind the counter at Wendy’s.
My sister-in-law, apparently, doesn’t deserve to have her meager teaching income supplemented by the SS payments she receives for his disabled son. Is that how it works, Va Voom?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pm#39 VA Voter. The FICA/Social Security tax is 12.4%, 6.2% from the employer and employee. How is anyone to take your opinion seriously if you don’t even know this elementary fact about the program?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pm#39 VA Voter. The FICA/Social Security tax is 12.4%, 6.2% from the employer and employee. How is anyone to take your opinion seriously if you don’t even know this elementary fact about the program?
Comment by stewarjt — March 4, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
No one took Va Voom seriously anyway, but thank you for providing hard evidence that supports this approach.
Also, my apologies to all for allowing Va Voom misdirect the thread to another lame wingnut discussion os Social Security, when all along it should have been about McCain’s flip-flopping. I’m not surprised Va Voom figured the only option was to change the subject.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:03 pmFirst I want to point out again that I don’t use personal attacks. Calling people troll because they don’t believe the same way you do is bordering on racism. Just so you know.
You are a troll, you post here simply to stink up the place with your Bush adoration. And you are an idiot, learn to live with it.
Second. I’m sorry you made a bad investment and lost that much money. But I tend to have mine in the lower risk accounts. I move some around just to dabble a bit. I also have an interest savings account with a bank.
I did not make bad investments. Most of my stock was in medium risk companies. I got caught up in the last stock market crash like millions of other Americans.
Third, It shouldn’t matter what I do with the 14%. It’s my money. If I want to use it for retirement or DVDs, it shouldn’t matter to you or the government.
Again, you are proving how stupid you are. The 14% that goes into Social Security is 6.2% of your money and 6.2% of your employer’s money.
If you don’t believe me, go here to read up and educate yourself:
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/cbb.html
And it does matter to me and to the government if you want to take on investing your money yourself and do away with Social Security because if and when you become destitute because the stock market crashes, the government will have to step in to support you or let you starve to death. Personally I wouldn’t mind if the government did let you starve to death.
Comment by VA Voter —
March 4th, 2008 at 1:06 pmI wish you folks would understand that it’s the people that make this country great. Not the government. I don’t know why you believe that people would be homeless and downtrodden without the government. How you lost sight of what individual freedom is?
March 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pmJust like most Americans, I con’t need to be protected from myself.
Comment by VA Voter
And I’m quite sure that all those people who jumped out of windows after the last Stock Market crash thought the same thing. You really are too dumb for words to describe.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:08 pmI wish you folks would understand that it’s the people that make this country great. Not the government. I don’t know why you believe that people would be homeless and downtrodden without the government. How you lost sight of what individual freedom is?
Comment by VA Voter
Individual freedom as defined by Republicans = “I got mine now FU”.
People will always be homeless and downtrodden as long as we have a system of government that favors the rich and screws the poor. Hopefully President Obama will change this dynamic. But, I’m sure that he will recognize that what happens in one’s life is not always under an individual’s control. I knew a very nice middle class couple who were doing quite well. They had a good income, a nice house and two kids in college. Then my friend got sick with Cancer. It was only then that they figured out about how a “Health Care” Company (I put Health Care in quotes because they are not about health care, they are about their own profits) could screw them. First they had to deal with a seriously reduced income situation and then the bills started rolling in from doctors and hospitals for the amounts their insurance company wouldn’t pay. In the end, both kids had to drop out of college, my friend died and left his wife practically destitute. So tell me brilliant troll, how was that their fault? How could their “individual freedom” have prevented this from happening to them?
March 4th, 2008 at 1:14 pmHere comes Ol’ John McCain
Flip-floppin’ along with his campaign ,
Flippity Floppity,
Election’s on its way
Bringin’ ev’ry Republican
A basketful of panderin’
Things to make the right wing
Bright and gay
He’s got religion for Hagee
Tax breaks for corporate types
There’s a reference to trickle down Ronny
And a “straight” talk bus there too. Oh!
Here comes Ol’ John McCain
Flip-floppin’ along with his campaign ,
Flippity Floppity,
Happy Election Day
Look at him flip-flop and listen to him say,
“Try to do the things we think you should”
Maybe if you’re extra good
He’ll roll lots of earmarks your way
You’ll wake up on Election morning
And you’ll get what it is you seek
When you find those choc’late bunnies
That he was hiding in his cheek, Oh!
Here comes Ol’ John McCain
March 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmFlip-floppin’ along with his campaign ,
Flippity Floppity,
Happy Election Day.
And it does matter to me and to the government if you want to take on investing your money yourself and do away with Social Security because if and when you become destitute because the stock market crashes, the government will have to step in to support you or let you starve to death. Personally I wouldn’t mind if the government did let you starve to death.
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
You my not believe this, but I wouldn’t starve. You may be a sheep that needs the government to take care of him. Most of us don’t
March 4th, 2008 at 1:18 pmYou my not believe this, but I wouldn’t starve. You may be a sheep that needs the government to take care of him. Most of us don’t
Comment by VA Voter
Did you read my comment about my friends? Do you care to comment on it. Because, my friend, that could quite likely happen to you.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pmYou my not believe this, but I wouldn’t starve. You may be a sheep that needs the government to take care of him. Most of us don’t
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
No, most of us don’t. That’s why Social Security works. Because most of us don’t need it. But some of us do need it to survive.
The difference between me and you is, I’m willing to contribute to a system that helps protect the least fortunate among us. You are not.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pmLadies and gentlemen, it just took less than 50 moves for a troll to reach the illogical conclusion that support for a minimal safety net to keep those upon whom fortune didn’t smile from starving in the streets equals disdain for individual freedom. That may be a new record for this site.
The reality is while I completely disagree with VAVO and suspect he/she is a manifestation of the character type which hates the government while gladly sucking off its benefits, I wish the Republican Party would simply admit that it too wants to destroy Social Security and replace it with a private investment system that will result in some people losing their money. Instead we get this waffling nonsense from Bush/McCain which simply covers up the real effort to starve the system by diverting money thus lowering benefits and hoping the old people die faster so we can trash the whole system.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pmComment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 1:14
I’m sorry that happened to your friend. It’s tragic. But government run healthcare is not the answer. Nothing runs as slowly or imperfectly as a government operation. Don’t believe me. Go to the DMV. Go ask for assistance at the local IRS.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pmI’m willing to contribute to a system that helps protect the least fortunate among us.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
Same here!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pmNothing runs as slowly or imperfectly as a government operation run by Republicans.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
That, I’ll stipulate.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pmI’m willing to contribute to a system that helps protect the least fortunate among us.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
Same here!
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — March 4, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Then you should donate more to private charity. I do.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pmVooVoo; I’m with ralph & PLC. We need to contribute to the COMMON good.
If we can not protect the many who are poor, then we can’t protect the few who are rich.- John F. Kennedy
March 4th, 2008 at 1:32 pmI’m sorry that happened to your friend. It’s tragic. But government run healthcare is not the answer. Nothing runs as slowly or imperfectly as a government operation. Don’t believe me. Go to the DMV. Go ask for assistance at the local IRS.
Comment by VA Voter — March 4, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
And, when faced with a perfectly sound example of good people having their hard-earned economic security overturned by fate (and the “free-market” system) the troll seeks to change the subject AGAIN, this time turning to the “government-run healthcare” lie.
The farce is strong with this one.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAnd, when faced with a perfectly sound example of good people having their hard-earned economic security overturned by fate (and the “free-market†system) the troll seeks to change the subject AGAIN, this time turning to the “government-run healthcare†lie.
The farce is strong with this one.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
I didn’t change the subject, sheep. it was
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
March 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pmVa Voom can’t understand that bilbo’s comment about his friends was a good illustration of the need for a safety net, thus completely on topic.
The troll can’t grasp that its reply tried to spin the comment off in a new direction, far afield from the topic on which it was getting its lunch eaten.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:40 pmGreat idea VAVO. Let’s have your candidate for president campaign on a platform to destroy both Social Security AND Medicare/Medicaid. Ignoring minor issues like the difference between the low overhead government plans and the profit margins private insurance and investment advisors charge whether they make money for their clients or not I want you to contemplate the reaction of the voters when you tell them what you Republicans really want. After you do that, go read some history books about what life was really like in the late 19th century. If you really want to go back to poor houses keep it up. Just be sure to tell the voters exactly what you have in mind.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pmcontemplate the reaction of the voters when you tell them what you Republicans really want.
Comment by paleolib — March 4, 2008 @ 1:50 pm
This is exactly why the Republics NEVER disclose what they REALLY want. They know that what they really want, if expressed in honest terms, would horrify most Americans.
That’s why the code words like “individual freedom”, “States rights”, “strict constructionst” and stuff like that.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:54 pmThis is exactly why the Republics NEVER disclose what they REALLY want. They know that what they really want, if expressed in honest terms, would horrify most Americans.
That’s why the code words like “individual freedomâ€, “States rightsâ€, “strict constructionst†and stuff like that.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 4, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
Why don’t you tell us what republicans want? Or the Dems?
March 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pmVooVoo went to the darkside of the farce.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:31 pmMcCain simultaneously broadcasts 2 positions - nothing new there.
What I want to ask is where is McCain’s flag lapel pin in the picture. Doesn’t he love America ?
March 4th, 2008 at 5:36 pmJohn McCain is Ronald Gump……..
March 4th, 2008 at 6:43 pm“Why don’t you tell us what republicans want? Or the Dems?”
Comment by VA Voter —
Isn’t it clear to you by now? They want to pay ZERO taxes. They also want to feel completely safe, no matter how much it costs. They believe the Constitution is secondary to the Bible, and corporations should have the same rights as individuals. It is these truths that republicans find self-evident.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:51 amI think privatizing social security is a VERY bad idea. I’ll sound like a wackjob for saything this but I believe the average person, if left to his own devices, will ruin himself financially. Doesn’t the mortgage problem prove that millions of people don’t know how to manage their money themselves? Doesn’t the negative national savings rate prove this? How about rising credit card debt among Americans? How is it that no one asks McCain these questions?
So what happens under the privatized SS plan when the financially challenged among us fail to invest wisely and don’t have enough to survive retirement? Who takes care of them at that point?
March 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pm