Hundreds of people who don’t believe that humans contribute to global warming are currently congregated in New York City for a conference sponsored by the energy-industry funded Heartland Institute. Many of them, in fact, don’t believe that global warming even exists.
Conference participants include weather anchorman John Coleman, who wants to sue Al Gore to expose the “fraud” of climate change, and Patrick Michaels, who fabricated his legitimacy by inaccurately referring to himself as Virginia’s “state climatologist.”
In recent days, President Bush has tried to give the illusion that he is taking steps to solve global warming. In today’s press briefing, however, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino refused to distance the Bush administration from the deniers:
PERINO: I don’t think the President has an opinion on the meeting. I haven’t talked to him about it. And if people want to gather and express their views, they’re obviously very welcome to do so, and New York is as good a place as any.
QUESTION: You are saying that he doesn’t disagree with these people who are questioning…
PERINO: The President’s position on climate change is well- known. He’s long said that human beings are contributing in some ways to climate change.
Watch it:
Perino’s vague answer — that humans are contributing “in some ways” to global warming — mirrors the White House’s vague position. While trying to appear environmentally-friendly, the administration has dropped progressive energy investments, muzzled government climate scientists, kowtowed to industry executives, and spouted denier rhetoric.
Also yesterday, these deniers released a report “arguing that recent climate change stems from natural causes.” Their report was the “work of 23 authors from 15 nations, some of them not scientists.” By contrast, the Nobel-Prize winning IPCC’s report was the work of several hundred scientists from more than 100 countries over a five-year period.
Transcript:
QUESTION: Thank you, Dana. On another question — two questions. President Klaus of the Czech Republic, and John Stossel, the co-anchor of ABC’s 20-20, are among 98 speakers at the International Conference on Climate Change, Global Warming: Truth or Swindle, which is now going on in New York City. And my question: Does the President welcome or deplore this gathering of so many scientists who have signed a petition that global warming probably is natural and not a crisis?
PERINO: I don’t think the President has an opinion on the meeting. I haven’t talked to him about it. And if people want to gather and express their views, they’re obviously very welcome to do so, and New York is as good a place as any.
QUESTION: You are saying that he doesn’t disagree with these people who are questioning…
PERINO: The President’s position on climate change is well- known. He’s long said that human beings are contributing in some ways to climate change. And that’s why we’re taking steps to deal with it, and in fact, tomorrow will make a — have remarks at the International Renewable Energy Conference, when he talks about that very issue.
"He’s long said that human beings are contributing in some ways to climate change. And that’s why we’re taking steps to deal with it."
He was ambiguously for the theory of anthropogenic climate change before he was ambiguously against it.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pmIt's all this scientific stuff... its just so confusing....
March 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pmWatch it:
Sorry, I just can't stand to listen to her.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pmTo Dubbie, "the ways humans are contributing to climate change" = not supporting his every whim.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pmHow can one woman manage to utter so many words while saying absolutely nothing?
Oh wait -- EVERYBODY in this administration does that. Especially whose who weren't able to duck subpoenas and wind up testifying before the House or Senate.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:02 pmIs that more "Presidential Kool-Aid" that Dana is sucking back?
Good girl, Dana, drink the Kool-Aid. Now try to get everyone else to take a sip.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:05 pmFor good or for ill, this sentence from the previous thread
"Peter Barker-Homek, CEO of Abu Dhabi National Energy Co., predicts that crude oil prices may hit $120 a barrel within the next six months"
is what will eventually force us to get away from fossil fuels and move toward green energy. When the pain becomes too great, behavior changes.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:06 pmI guess opposing the teaching of evolution in the schools just doesn't pay as well as it used to. Do they honestly go and listen to a bunch of presentations about how global warming doesn't exist? This has got to be the most boring conference ever. It's really just a pageant if they're all being paid to be there isn't it?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pmWHAT IS THE FRIGGIN DEAL WITH THE COFFEE DANA?
ARE WE INTERRUPTING YOUR COFFEE TIME?
JUST ANOTHER PLOY TO MAKE THESE IDIOTS' LIES MORE PALATABLE.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pmcaption:
"Scuze me, is it warm in here? I need a drink..."
March 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pmweather anchorman John Coleman, who wants to sue Al Gore to expose the “fraud†of climate change
woo hoo! go for it, john!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pmfor sure i'd like to see how far that gets...
wouldn't that involve - da ta da! - TRIAL LAWYERS!?! *gasp!*
What do you expect? These are people that think that invisible creatures tell them what to do and don't believe that science is real.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pmFor good or for ill, this sentence from the previous thread
“Peter Barker-Homek, CEO of Abu Dhabi National Energy Co., predicts that crude oil prices may hit $120 a barrel within the next six monthsâ€
is what will eventually force us to get away from fossil fuels and move toward green energy. When the pain becomes too great, behavior changes.
Comment by Keltoi — March 4, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Then how do you explain Chimpy's re-(s)election ?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:11 pm"President Bush says that if we need to, we can lower the temperature dramatically just by switching from Fahrenheit to Celsius."
- Jimmy Kimmel, on fighting global warming, February 2007
March 4th, 2008 at 4:11 pmYou make 'em stupid . . . we make 'em Republican stupid. I wonder, in the Western World in modern times, if there has EVER been a bigger group of idiots than the Republican Party in the U.S. Absolutely nothing else comes to mind. They are painfully dumb, embarrassingly stupid.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:13 pmA vague response from a vapid mind.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:17 pmJohn Coleman, snort. One time when I was working in Downtown Chicago he did the weather saying that there would be snow near the Wisconsin border but none in Chicago. Fifteen minutes later I walked outside that there was about two inches, the nimrod must have been too drunk to look out the window and see it was snowing. It figures he's a member of this fraternity.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:20 pmMalibu Barbie Perino: "He’s long said that human beings are contributing in some ways to climate change."
Yup, the Climate-in-chief still thinks that Global Warming is warming the globe.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:20 pmI wonder, in the Western World in modern times, if there has EVER been a bigger group of idiots than the Republican Party in the U.S. Absolutely nothing else comes to mind. They are painfully dumb, embarrassingly stupid.
Comment by scytherius — March 4, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
Well there was the Dark Ages but I guess that doesn't meet your WesternWorld in modern times criteria.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pm“President Bush says that if we need to, we can lower the temperature dramatically just by switching from Fahrenheit to Celsius.â€
- Jimmy Kimmel, on fighting global warming, February 2007
Comment by Theresa — March 4, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Now THAT is funny!! Thanks!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:22 pmComment by scytherius — March 4, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
I agree. I did not think it was possible to find so many stupid, incompetent, mean spirited, and deceitful individuals in the USA at one time. And yet, like ants at a picnic, this administration has found them, corralled them, placed and promoted them into positions of authority where they can break everything they touch. Their scorched-earth approach to everything and the resulting damage may last for generations.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pmThe merino has confirmed that if you ask an idiot a question that they know nothing about, they will answer.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:26 pmI agree. I did not think it was possible to find so many stupid, incompetent, mean spirited, and deceitful individuals in the USA at one time. And yet, like ants at a picnic, this administration has found them, corralled them, placed and promoted them into positions of authority where they can break everything they touch. Their scorched-earth approach to everything and the resulting damage may last for generations.
Comment by Tired of being lied to — March 4, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
As I said on an earlier thread if you want to see where these inbreds come from watch Borat again and pay close attention to the scene in the Pentecostal church. That's why the rethugs have been pandering to evangelicals because there's so many idiot held hostage every week to their preachers whims. They loved them some born again Christians until one of them, Huckleberry, started running for president.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:26 pmis that a choke chain she's wearing?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:29 pmis the big DICK at the other end of the leash?
I can only hope that President Obama does a much better job at hiring a press secretary than Dubya has done. None of Dubya's folks have been any better than "Baghdad Bob" was for Saddam.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:29 pmI’d love to know what kind of a concoction Dana keeps drinking as though she’s dying of dehydration every time she gives a press conference. I think it’s her way of hiding her embarrassment and deflecting tough questions with the use of this body-language technique.
Comment by satirev — March 4, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
she's not drinking from it. she's spitting it. all the sh!t spewing from her pie hole leaves a bad taste in her mouth.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pmThe truth about Oil only for the faint hearted
http://www.angelnexus.com/getreport/76e30d58d7682872e2e598dd6036a7de.pdf
beat read you will ever read about oil
March 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pmWestern powers have retreated from an IAEA draft resolution against Iran, after facing strong opposition from the other members.
Bush was trying for war with this one
March 4th, 2008 at 4:35 pmThese unspeakable thugs make me sick.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:45 pmis that a choke chain she’s wearing?
is the big DICK at the other end of the leash?
Comment by LividLib — March 4, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
More likely a shock color with Cheney holding the zapper.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmOops I mean collar.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmThe truth about Oil only for the faint hearted
http://www.angelnexus.com/ getreport/ 76e30d58d7682872e2e598dd6036a7de.pdf
beat read you will ever read about oil
Comment by Anjuna Laguna — March 4, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
From the link
"But what would happen if OPEC would successfully shift their currency from the U.S. dollar to the Euro, as Iraq and Iran have tried to do? The answer is simple but drastic. The value of our dollar would plummet by roughly 50%, and we would once again be in an economic state far worse than the Great Depression.
The terrifying part is, without our military presence in the Middle East, it would happen."
Quite a terrifying read, A.L. What can you tell me about the people who produced it? At the very end they started sounding a bit crassly commercial regarding Alberta oil sands...I am not saying their info is bunk (though it'd be damn hard to fact check, methinks) I was just wondering what their ulterior motive might be?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:54 pmKeltoi - that Euro business was one of the reasons Bush attacked Iraq and took out Saddam. He was planning to switch to selling Iraq's oil in Euros (rather than dollars), and the PNAC'ers couldn't sit around and let that happen.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:04 pmKeltoi - chop the URL up - they are some business group who are share experts and want money
But the article I think is spot on
March 4th, 2008 at 5:11 pmWell there was the Dark Ages but I guess that doesn’t meet your WesternWorld in modern times criteria.
Comment by Shayne — March 4, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
But Geologically speaking, that would be modern times.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm39 / The terrifying part is, without our military presence in the Middle East, it would happen.â€
It will happen , Bush has been trying for Iraqi oil for 5 years , He aint getting it, Iran in a month will agree by the UNSC to tempararily suspend Uranium enrichment ( according to Russia). then the US will agree to leave Iraq, Iraqis have to pay for Exit Visas in Euros for the last 6 months, The clever Arabs outfoxed Bush
Bingo the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation won and paid back in full what America did to Russia in reagan years
and Russia , Europe and China get the Oil contracts
March 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pmL Annie, Saddam did convert selling Iraqi oil to euros on Nov 6, 2000.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:20 pm44 as the Iranians have already done also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
March 4th, 2008 at 5:24 pm"Well there was the Dark Ages but I guess that doesn’t meet your WesternWorld in modern times criteria."
Comment by Shayne — March 4, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
LOL, yeah, thought about being as dumb as the Dark Ages but with all the knowledge and technology available theyare at least as dumb as the Dark Ages which makes em worse.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:31 pmI swear she is wearing a beer pop-top necklace.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:45 pmI swear she is wearing a beer pop-top necklace.
Comment by Joefriday — March 4, 2008 @ 5:45 pm
But where is the silly beer can knit hat? Why is she always drinking?
March 4th, 2008 at 5:50 pmBut where is the silly beer can knit hat? Why is she always drinking?
Comment by dbadass — March 4, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
She's covering her mouth so nobody can see the smirk. It's the same way singers who lip sync put the microphone right to their mouths so nobody can see them mess up.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:03 pm“But what would happen if OPEC would successfully shift their currency from the U.S. dollar to the Euro, as Iraq and Iran have tried to do? The answer is simple but drastic. The value of our dollar would plummet by roughly 50%, and we would once again be in an economic state far worse than the Great Depression.
The terrifying part is, without our military presence in the Middle East, it would happen.â€
So are they trying to say that it is our military presence in the Middle East that has stopped OPEC from shifting to the Euro? How's that? It sounds like another excuse for keeping us in Iraq.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:14 pm44 & 45 - Thanks for that info.
Well, now, see just how much better we Americans are off now that Dear Leader has saved us from that evil dictator Saddam...?
The dollar keeps dropping like it is, and well...we'll just have to bomb EVERYONE, won't we...?
March 4th, 2008 at 6:19 pmshe’s not drinking from it. she’s spitting it. all the sh!t spewing from her pie hole leaves a bad taste in her mouth.
Comment by LividLib — March 4, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
The picture reminds me of these documentaires where naturalists extract snake venom by making the poor creature bite a glass.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:34 pm[I]"He’s long said that human beings are contributing in some ways to climate change. And that’s why we’re taking steps to deal with it..."[/I]
Steps to deal with it?
Like the presidents ambitious goal of reducing carbon emission [I]intensity[/I] by 18% in 6 years, not mentioning that is the exact same rate which carbon emission intensity has been decreasing without any "goals" since 1980. All while emissions have grown almost every year, and will of course continue to grow, despite Bushs "ambitious" carbon emission intensity reductions.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:24 pmWho needs the STINKING SCIENCE??? The FLAT EARTHERS have an UNFOUNDED CRACKPOT IDEOLOGICAL OPINION that THEY BELIEVE should be GIVEN EQUAL TIME, no matter that the SCIENCE DISPROVES IT!!! ROTFL!!
March 4th, 2008 at 8:25 pmDana Perino makes Barbie Dolls look like geniuses.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:40 pmIn recent days, President Bush has tried to give the illusion that he is taking steps to solve global warming.
ha!! - yeah right - just like he's "solved" so many of the world's problems over the last 7 years
March 5th, 2008 at 1:15 am.
I'm a Barbie girl...
In the Bushie world...
Made of plastic...
Lies fantastic.
Hea Dana,
What's with the spit cup?
.
March 5th, 2008 at 1:46 amTheir (the scientists at the New York conference) report was the “work of 23 authors from 15 nations, some of them not scientists.†By contrast, the Nobel-Prize winning IPCC’s report was the work of several hundred scientists from more than 100 countries over a five-year period.
So this means that the IPCC is right, end of debate, is this correct? I challenge all Global Warming alarmists to read the report in question and then claim there is no debate!
http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/article.cfm?artId=22835
March 5th, 2008 at 10:28 amIf you ignore it(global warming),it will just go away, right!
March 5th, 2008 at 2:25 pm