Comments on: The economic costs of war. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:48:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: thirdparty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4290119 thirdparty Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:39:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4290119 Stiglitz' argument hinges on a crucial premise: that the cost of oil has been impacted so greatly by the war that well over $50 a barrel can be attributed to the Iraq war. That's where most of the cost comes from. Now, can you prove it? That's the thing - how do you prove that oil prices wouldn't be, say, $5 a barrel lower if we weren't in Iraq? Stiglitz’ argument hinges on a crucial premise: that the cost of oil has been impacted so greatly by the war that well over $50 a barrel can be attributed to the Iraq war. That’s where most of the cost comes from. Now, can you prove it? That’s the thing – how do you prove that oil prices wouldn’t be, say, $5 a barrel lower if we weren’t in Iraq?

]]> By: pluege http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288702 pluege Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:17:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288702 Beyond the unspeakable travesty of the waste and lost opportunity cost, the $2 trillion dollar projected cost of Iraq is a magic number because it is the same as the $2 trillion projected Social Security surplus that bush inherited and subsequently squandered in his foolish war. It thus becomes a media bonanza for Democrats to claim that <em>‘bush and the republicans spent your (every American’s) social security in Iraq’</em>. It then nicely wraps in a bow to remind voters that <em>’republicans have been trying to get rid of social security by privatizing it. Republicomics – it sucks!’</em> . Beyond the unspeakable travesty of the waste and lost opportunity cost, the $2 trillion dollar projected cost of Iraq is a magic number because it is the same as the $2 trillion projected Social Security surplus that bush inherited and subsequently squandered in his foolish war. It thus becomes a media bonanza for Democrats to claim that ‘bush and the republicans spent your (every American’s) social security in Iraq’. It then nicely wraps in a bow to remind voters that ’republicans have been trying to get rid of social security by privatizing it. Republicomics – it sucks!’
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]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288600 MapleStreet Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:35:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288600 To me, the ultimate irony is that the Neocons laud Saint Ronnie with a mantra that he forced the Soviets into spending massive amounts of money for the military, thus pulling them into an economic quagmire, crippling their economy, and ultimately pulling down the Berlin Wall. Now the Neocons pull us into the same ruse. Can't we even learn from ourselves ? To me, the ultimate irony is that the Neocons laud Saint Ronnie with a mantra that he forced the Soviets into spending massive amounts of money for the military, thus pulling them into an economic quagmire, crippling their economy, and ultimately pulling down the Berlin Wall.

Now the Neocons pull us into the same ruse.

Can’t we even learn from ourselves ?

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288241 Cal Malenky Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:42:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288241 Read it. Still don't see how. Amusing anyway. Read it. Still don’t see how. Amusing anyway.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288185 RUCerious Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:22:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288185 Mr Bungle, when I first spied that headliner, I supposed that it was about Hillary getting tortured before Barack...? Mr Bungle, when I first spied that headliner, I supposed that it was about Hillary getting tortured before Barack…?

]]> By: Mr.Bungle http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288156 Mr.Bungle Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:10:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288156 "CLINTON TORTURED FIRST" So that must make it ok? If Clinton did allow torture, then he too should be prosecuted for his crimes. Now go away “CLINTON TORTURED FIRST”

So that must make it ok?

If Clinton did allow torture, then he too should be prosecuted for his crimes.

Now go away

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288127 RUCerious Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:56:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288127 Cal, start at post #23. Cal, start at post #23.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288125 RUCerious Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:55:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288125 Cal, you'd have to follow the thread for that answer. Cal, you’d have to follow the thread for that answer.

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288106 Cal Malenky Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:49:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288106 I remember seeing Burma Shave signs on Route 66, Mad Magazine and the Impeach Earl Warren billboards, mostly in the South, too, but what does it have with the topic at hand? I remember seeing Burma Shave signs on Route 66, Mad Magazine and the Impeach Earl Warren billboards, mostly in the South, too, but what does it have with the topic at hand?

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288090 Cal Malenky Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:46:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288090 Check out NPR's Fresh Air. Today's interviews with Nobel Prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes lay out the true human and economic cost of this debacle. It's staggering. It's disgusting and shameful. Wounded soldiers have to PROVE that they're injured before getting any benefits. The lag time is when they fall into homelessness, substance abuse and domestic violence. But White House hitman Tony Fratto said “People like Joe Stiglitz lack the courage to consider the cost of doing nothing and the cost of failure. One can’t even begin to put a price tag on the cost to this nation of the attacks of 9/11,” Once again linking 9/11 with Iraq. Another Profile in Courage from the Bushies. Bush lacks to courage to tell the American people the true cost of his war. Check out NPR’s Fresh Air. Today’s interviews with Nobel Prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes lay out the true human and economic cost of this debacle.
It’s staggering. It’s disgusting and shameful.
Wounded soldiers have to PROVE that they’re injured before getting any benefits. The lag time is when they fall into homelessness, substance abuse and domestic violence.
But White House hitman Tony Fratto said
“People like Joe Stiglitz lack the courage to consider the cost of doing nothing and the cost of failure. One can’t even begin to put a price tag on the cost to this nation of the attacks of 9/11,”
Once again linking 9/11 with Iraq.
Another Profile in Courage from the Bushies.
Bush lacks to courage to tell the American people the true cost of his war.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288070 RUCerious Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:35:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288070 Thanks Uncle Ho {:>} Slow day at the data factory. Thanks Uncle Ho {:>} Slow day at the data factory.

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288064 texaslady Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:31:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288064 Does anyone else ever wonder which country George Bush actually works for ? He has cut funding for every department that tries to protect the American public, he cuts out oversight, whistleblowers are hounded out of their jobs, journalists are punished for uncovering some of the crap he has done. Does anyone wonder why nobody has the courage to stand up and call this administration what it really is ? Does anyone else ever wonder which country George Bush actually works for ? He has cut funding for every department that tries to protect the American public, he cuts out oversight, whistleblowers are hounded out of their jobs, journalists are punished for uncovering some of the crap he has done. Does anyone wonder why nobody has the courage to stand up and call this administration what it really is ?

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288058 Uncle Ho Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:29:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288058 RU; you & TROS seem to be on a roll today. :-) RU; you & TROS seem to be on a roll today. :-)

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288045 sacopenapa Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:24:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288045 Time to INDICT, IMPEACH AND IMPRISON BUSH/CHENNEY & Co. is overdue! HAGUE 2009! Time to INDICT, IMPEACH AND IMPRISON BUSH/CHENNEY & Co. is overdue! HAGUE 2009!

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288043 Fred Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:23:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288043 Remember those wonderful Burma Shave roadside signs, RU? (Boy, am I ever dating myself…) Comment by The Republic of Stupidity I also remember the billboards that read "Empeach Earl Warren" from the same era. Remember those wonderful Burma Shave roadside signs, RU?

(Boy, am I ever dating myself…)

Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

I also remember the billboards that read “Empeach Earl Warren” from the same era.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288039 RUCerious Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:22:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288039 hellina ~ <strong> AMEN! </strong> hellina ~ AMEN!

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288038 RUCerious Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:21:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288038 Uncle Ho {:>} Uncle Ho {:>}

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288027 hellinabucket Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:16:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288027 The spineless pissant trolls can't even fake an argument on this thread. The full weight of their ignorance is laid on their shoulders here. This is the true legacy of George W. Bush. He has bankrupted this country and fallen directly into the trap of AQ. Partisan neocon ideology has taken precedence over the USA. I will fight with every fiber of my being to not allow their ignorance and fear push this country anywhere ever again. The spineless pissant trolls can’t even fake an argument on this thread.

The full weight of their ignorance is laid on their shoulders here. This is the true legacy of George W. Bush. He has bankrupted this country and fallen directly into the trap of AQ.

Partisan neocon ideology has taken precedence over the USA. I will fight with every fiber of my being to not allow their ignorance and fear push this country anywhere ever again.

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4288024 Uncle Ho Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:16:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4288024 Bush whacked = am-Bushed Bush whacked = am-Bushed

]]> By: celtic cynic http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/comment-page-2/#comment-4287987 celtic cynic Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:57:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/04/the-economic-costs-of-war/#comment-4287987 But snarling, sneering, smirking George W. Bush says no problem - we'll just print more money and let someone else worry about it. But snarling, sneering, smirking George W. Bush says no problem – we’ll just print more money and let someone else worry about it.

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