ThinkFast: March 4, 2008
ThinkFast: March 4, 2008
Right-wing radio host Melanie Morgan — who once called for the editor of The New York Times to be “sent to the gas chamber” — has been fired from her job at KSFO 560 AM, but will continue her World Net Daily column. “[J]ust because Melanie Morgan is off the air doesn’t mean she’s off our radar,” said Media Matters spokesman Karl Frisch.
Commenting on the climate change deniers conference in New York City, Princeton University geosciences professor Michael Oppenheimer said that climate skeptics “have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.”
Federal Communications Commission commissioner Michael Copps has asked the board’s chair to open an inquiry into “the blacking out of a politically charged segment of the CBS News magazine ‘60 Minutes’ by a local television station in Alabama.” “Was this an attempt to suppress information on the public airwaves, or was it really just a technical problem?” asked Copps.
“House Democrats said a civil lawsuit could be filed as early as this month that challenges the Bush administration’s claims of executive privilege in curtailing aides from testifying on Capitol Hill.” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is pursing civil litigation because Attorney General Michael Mukasey refuses to enforce contempt citations against two White House aides.
Vanity Fair writes that the Bush administration’s plan to arm and train Palestinian fighters loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas backfired and led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called the central premise of the article “ludicrous” and said it was necessary to counteract Iranian influence.
Exhausted by exposure to the violence of religious extremism, Iraqi youths “have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.” Iraqis — both poor and middle class — have “blamed clerics for the violence and the restrictions that have narrowed their lives.”
James Clark, the chief of staff under former Alaska Gov. Frank H. Murkowski (R), agreed yesterday “to plead guilty to concealing donations made to Mr. Murkowski’s 2006 re-election campaign” by the VECO Corporation, an oil company accused of bribing much of the Alaskan political establishment. Clark arranged for VECO to pay $68,500 without it being publicly disclosed.
The Senate yesterday confirmed Mark R. Filip, a federal judge from Chicago and former law clerk to Justice Antonin Scalia, as deputy attorney general. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) had previously placed a hold on Judge Filip’s nomination over…waterboarding but lifted it.”
In prepared testimony, CentCom chief William Fallon said “multiple strains of violent extremism remain a threat to the government and populace” in Iraq. Fallon added that when Gen. Petraeus testifies next month, “the chain of command” and “our inputs, along with his” will be sent to the president.
And finally: “If you want to prevent skin cancer, you don’t get to the beach. And if you want to avoid corruption, you don’t go to Vegas, right?” Next month, however, Sin City will host Campaigns & Elections magazine’s two-day conference for lobbyists called “All Things Ethical.” Panels include “Using Phones Ethically” and “The Ethics of Deception.”
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http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/31485
March 4th, 2008 at 9:00 amA Bi-Partisan Attack on the Constitution
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
March 4th, 2008 at 9:01 amhttp://www.counterpunch.org/roberts03042008.html
Bye, bye, Melanie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 9:01 amVote TODAY on Indicting Bush and Cheney
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/31475
March 4th, 2008 at 9:02 amClimate change deniers “have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.â€
LOL! So true, so true.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:02 amVanity Fair writes that the Bush administration’s plan to arm and train Palestinian fighters loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas backfired and led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza.
I propose we start a new charity to collect unused history textbooks from high schools and universities and deliver them to the State Department and the Pentagon. If these people knew just a smidgeon of 20th Century history it'd help our foreign policy immensely.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:07 amClimate change deniers “have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.â€
LOL! So true, so true.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — March 4, 2008 @ 9:02 am
Except Glenn Beck and Steve Ducey and the brown-haired guy who isn't Steve Ducey and...
March 4th, 2008 at 9:09 am“Was this an attempt to suppress information on the public airwaves, or was it really just a technical problem?†asked Copps.
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Well, of COURSE it was just a technical problem. Happened randomly. Just a coincidence that it happened in Alabama. And a coincidence that it happened to the CBS affilliate. And a coincidence that it happened at the beginning of a particular 60 Minutes segment. And yet another coincidence that the problem ended when the segment did. In fact, the timing of it was just so fortuitous, we all went out and bought lottery tickets before the aura vanished.
snark/off
March 4th, 2008 at 9:10 amBye, Melanie -- your venom will not be missed.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:10 amHowever, the vile Melanie Morgan will no doubt turn up somewhere else on your radio dial.
I propose we start a new charity to collect unused history textbooks from high schools and universities and deliver them to the State Department and the Pentagon. If these people knew just a smidgeon of 20th Century history it’d help our foreign policy immensely.
Comment by toasterhead — March 4, 2008 @ 9:07 am
You could even donate old history textbooks, since once events happen and are relegated to history, that history doesn't change. Oh wait...
March 4th, 2008 at 9:12 amFCC commissioner, Copps, asks the question that must be asked. I, for one, await the answer.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:12 amWe have a possible war brewing in South America involving Ecuador, Venezuela, and Colombia, and you don't have anything on that! It is good that melanie morgan is off the air, but is that more important than what is happening in South America?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:13 amSen. Dick Durbin is from Illinois. Good morning!
March 4th, 2008 at 9:13 amPrinceton University geosciences professor Michael Oppenheimer said that climate skeptics “have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.â€
Except our lunatic trolls, but they don't count.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:13 am"(climate skeptics) have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.â€
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Yes, most of us don't want to waste our time with people who are full of sh!t.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:13 amSen. Dick Durbin had previously (R-AZ) WTF?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:16 amSenators plan 'embarrassing' votes in efforts to derail candidates
All three top contenders for America's highest office are senators. But that won't stop the Senate from trying to derail their colleagues' chances.
According to an article in the paid-restricted Roll Call Monday, top senators in both parties plan to make efforts to derail the candidacy of either party by introducing "divisive" bills in an election year.
Democrats, still smarting from President Bush's gambit to use Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)'s vote on Iraq troop funding, plan countermeasures of their own in an effort to torpedo the candidacy of presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).
"Senate Democrats are looking at holding votes related to the environment, health care or even the war that could force McCain to take politically toxic positions, miss key votes or reconcile previously held stands," Roll Call's Erin Billings writes Monday. "Republican Senators also are hoping to do the same to the Democratic contenders, particularly on issues related to national security, taxes and spending, where they believe McCain has the upper hand against either Democratic rival."
"And that’s probably just the beginning," she adds. "Democrats think they can put McCain at odds with his own party on issues such as stem-cell research, global warming and perhaps even immigration in the months ahead. They hope that on certain issues, they can force McCain to choose between aligning with conservatives or flexing his independent streak, both of which Democrats argue could be problematic for the GOP White House hopeful."
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Senate_plans_embarrassing_votes_to_derail_0303.html
I really don't think we can allow this to happen. I don't think many of the issues mentioned should be reduced to campaign talking points. They are playing games with our lives. Any Senator who participates in this (from either side of the aisle) needs to be told to do what we pay you for or get voted out.
How about someone stepping forward in the Senate or House and do the right thing because it's THE RIGHT THING TO DO!
March 4th, 2008 at 9:16 am(Assuming the photo is of Melanie Morgan) [how would I] know?
caption:
"(sniffle) OMG, there not going to build the downtown Wal-Mart? (wail) Where am I ever going to find work now?"
March 4th, 2008 at 9:16 amExhausted by exposure to the violence of religious extremism, Iraqi youths “have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.â€
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I suspect that's happening here to a certain degree as well. And not just for young people -- those of us who come from "old school" Christianity are quite weary of James Dobson, Pat Robertson, et al telling us to hate, hate, hate in the name of Jesus.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:16 amthe Bush administration’s plan to arm and train Palestinian fighters loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas backfired and led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza.
Sounds like a classic BushitCo fubar snafu.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:18 amConsidering that Melanie Morgan's husband runs the radio station, that decision must have led to a few awkward moments at home.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:19 amVanity Fair writes that the Bush administration’s plan to arm and train Palestinian fighters loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas backfired and led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza.
Another one of GDumbya's and Condoleeeeeeeeeeeeeezza's half-baked schemes back-fired?
And this is news how?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am(Assuming the photo is of Melanie Morgan) [how would I] know?
caption:
“(sniffle) OMG, there not going to build the downtown Wal-Mart? (wail) Where am I ever going to find work now?â€
Comment by Nevar
She can always find work as an RNC troll posting here. The old trolls are getting worn out.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:20 amSpeaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is pursing civil litigation because Attorney General Michael Mukasey refuses to enforce contempt citations against two White House aides.
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Let's see -- Pelosi will have to find a judge NOT appointed by this administration. And then she will have to hope that all parties will abide by that court's decision without taking it to the SCOTUS.
Still, she's doing something, for which I'm glad. I just think that inherent contempt citations (complete with handcuffs) would be a lot more efficient.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:20 amScore one for the good guys in getting the vile Ms. Morgan fired. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:22 amclimate skeptics “have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.â€
Now that's funny! And it's probably true.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:23 amSen. Dick Durbin had previously (R-AZ) WTF?
Comment by RUCerious — March 4, 2008 @ 9:16 am
I bet McCain and Kyl are a bit surprised to learn that Arizona is the first state with THREE senators...
March 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am“Was this an attempt to suppress information on the public airwaves, or was it really just a technical problem?†asked Copps.
Of course it was a blackout of the Siegelman segment. It was no coincidence that the blackout started when the segment started and ended when the segment ended.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:24 am“House Democrats said a civil lawsuit could be filed as early as this month that challenges the Bush administration’s claims of executive privilege in curtailing aides from testifying on Capitol Hill.â€
What in the hell is she waiting for? She should have done this months ago. I certainly hope when President Obama and a new Congress takes over that the House kicks Nancy to the curb. I also hope the Senate Kicks Harry Reid too.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:25 am"What did we miss"
Here's a link to a DailyKos diary that purports that Hillary has darkened Obama's image in an ad.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/4/21311/85811/447/468408
If this is true, and the diary seems credible, at least on the surface, then this is a drastic and dispicable and desparate move on her part. Up to now I've thought that both campigans have been pretty substantive and above this sort of thing. I hope this turns out to be false.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:26 amthose of us who come from “old school†Christianity are quite weary of James Dobson, Pat Robertson, et al telling us to hate, hate, hate in the name of Jesus.
Comment by missmolly
I had the pleasant opportunity a week or so ago to verbally rip apart a bible toting (a pulpit-sized model, he brought it with him to a fire fighter-training class) wingnut after he began to brag about the excess supplies and equipment he always pilfered when leaving an assignment.
I asked him whether laying up such earthly treasures might not slow his rapturous ascent. Got a good laugh from the rest of the class, and the kid quit proselytizing.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:27 amVanity Fair writes that the Bush administration’s plan to arm and train Palestinian fighters loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas backfired and led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza.
We need to stop meddling in the affairs of other Countries. I hope that President Obama apologizes to the world for the USA's nation building tactics and tells them that we will no longer meddle in other country's affairs. They can ask for help if they need it, but we will mind our own business. Wouldn't that be refreshing?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:28 amCouldn’t have happened to a more deserving person.
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 9:22 am
Howza bout MikeyWienerSavage???
March 4th, 2008 at 9:29 amBush appoints incompetents like himself and waits for them to do something right. As with himself and stopped clocks, sometimes they get something right. I expect Condi to get something right any day now. As Dusty Baker likes to say, she's due.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:30 amRight-wing radio host Melanie Morgan — who once called for the editor of The New York Times to be “sent to the gas chamberâ€...
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What IS it with right-wingers always wanting to kill people? Besides Melanie Morgan, we have Ann Coulter proposing that Justice Stevens' creme broulee be poisoned and advocating a terrorist attack on the NYT building. And don't even get me started on Michael Savage and the rest of that ilk.
And they claim WE'RE the bloodthirsty ones because some of us have called for our leaders to be tried at The Hague for war crimes and executed if found guilty.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:30 amshe’s due.
Comment by ken melvin
Yes, well, keep breathing................
March 4th, 2008 at 9:33 amSen. Dick Durbin had previously (R-AZ) WTF?
Comment by RUCerious
This kind of stuff happens so frequently on TP you have to wonder if it is intentional. Why do you do this TP? Who are you hiring to type this stuff? I think you need to upgrade your help.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:34 amI suspect that’s happening here to a certain degree as well. And not just for young people — those of us who come from “old school†Christianity are quite weary of James Dobson, Pat Robertson, et al telling us to hate, hate, hate in the name of Jesus.
Comment by missmolly — March 4, 2008 @ 9:16 am
Amen!
March 4th, 2008 at 9:36 amNext gigi will report on Fox news' morning show reading the nydailynews on air as evidence that these issues are cropping up repeatidly...and will someone please ask gigi to tell her husband to quit calling me? he's gross.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:37 amBe sure to console Melanie Morgan on getting fired. And please, show her the same class and respect that she herself would show anyone else. That is, none.
melanie@melaniemorgan.com
March 4th, 2008 at 9:39 amI’ve never even heard of Melanie Morgan. It looks like she wasn’t syndicated and was only on one AM station in a single market.
Comment by good_golly
Gee, if goon_golly has not heard of Ms. Morgan that must mean that she is insignificant. Because we all know how significant this idiot troll is.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:39 amHas anyone else noticed how widely gigi reads? The WaPo, the NY Dailynews, It's almost like someone sends her a fax with talkingspoints and links for the day...
March 4th, 2008 at 9:39 amBefore he beat his hasty retreat, however, Obama found time to assign blame for the tough questions suddenly coming his way. “The Clinton campaign has been true to its word in employing a ‘kitchen sink’ strategy,†he protested. “There are, what, three or four things a day?â€
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 9:34 am
Wow - this must be that liberal media you tightie-righties are always complaining about.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:43 am"If Bush is above impeachment, every future president will be as well."
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 4, 2008 @ 9:01 am
Not only that, but since the alleged offenses of Bush and Cheney aren't "grave" enough to call for impeachment, we need to issue some apologies to PAST presidents -- Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton.
Unless some of the Bush supporters here can make a compelling case as to how the Bushco offenses are less "grave" than the ones that got Johnson, Nixon, and Clinton in trouble?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:44 amHere’s a link to a DailyKos diary that purports that Hillary has darkened Obama’s image in an ad.
I am getting really worried about Hillary. I fear that she is not going to take defeat gracefully and that her scorched earth policy might just rip the Democratic party into shreds. And, I don't understand what she thinks this will gain her. All it would do is to destroy her and Bill's reputations forever.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:44 amToasterhead - who needs a history book when you've got the Ministry of Truth?
Seriously, isn't that what the Bush Library is going to be?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:45 am"Exhausted by exposure to the violence of religious extremism, Iraqi youths 'have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.'â€
March 4th, 2008 at 9:45 amSounds like people all over the world have the same reaction.
I'm listening to Stephanie Miller on the radio right now interview Congressman John Conyers. In a few minutes Stephanie has expressed several times how much she "loves" him.
Right now over 500 people are FASTING to compel John Conyers to take up impeachment and SAVE the Constitution and Country.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/31469
Conyer's refuses to budge on the issue. Obviously he's taken a secret oath to Pelosi that he believes supersedes his oath to the Constitution. There's simply no other explanation.
Stephanie has not bought up impeachment in the interivew. Nor has she brought up Caging Lists which Conyers could start an investigation TODAY and have Tim Griffin and possibly Rove in prison in prompt order (the evidence is sitting in his desk drawer). Not one tough question from Stephanie (and yes I understand her show is primarily comedy). Both she and Conyers said the country needs to be restored.
Now Stephanie thanked Conyers for doing the "Lord's Work". She said it in comedic fashion, not religious, but disgusting nonetheless.
I wrote many letters to my local progressive station when we had the "Jerry Springer Radio Show". I urged them to dump him and hire Stephanie. I'm regretting my effort.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:48 amExhausted by exposure to the violence of religious extremism, Iraqi youths “have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.â€
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Isn't it interesting how it's the YOUTH who "get it" -- that Islam is not about violence and/or political exploitation. Perhaps their elders can get a clue.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:48 amRight now over 500 people are FASTING to compel John Conyers to take up impeachment and SAVE the Constitution and Country.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 4, 2008 @ 9:48 am
I'm with Conyers on this one. I'd rather not see a McCain presidency.
I think the focus should be on indicting Bush, Cheney, and other officials for their crimes after they're out of office.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:51 amExhausted by exposure to the violence of religious extremism, Iraqi youths “have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.†Iraqis — both poor and middle class — have “blamed clerics for the violence and the restrictions that have narrowed their lives.â€
That is the best news that has come out of Iraq in quite some time.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:52 amContinuing my post #51.
"He stand's for everything that's right in this country"
"He stands for the rule of law"
These are two quotes just this minute from Stephanie Miller regarding John Conyers.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:52 amHas anyone else noticed how widely gigi reads? The WaPo, the NY Dailynews, It’s almost like someone sends her a fax with talkingspoints and links for the day…
Comment by Bobwurst
Well, gigi does have a job that provides it with a six figure income and allows it to post here most of the day. So, I guess it has time to read all the available newspapers looking for something negative it can post on Obama. But it will all be for naught. It can't stop Obama.
I have a question. Do trolls like gigi really think that they are going to change anyone on this blog's mind about issues or candidates? I'm pretty sure they don't think this will happen. So the only motivation they have in posting here is to jump up and down, waving their hands in the air, saying "look at me", "look at me". How pitiful to have so little ego that you need to validate your ego by stinking up a blog.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:53 amwish i could watch Morgan pack up her desk.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:55 amComment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 9:34 am
the usual rightwing liars spouting the usual rightwing lies. doesn't gg have a life? or does wingnut welfare substitute for socialization among the rightards?
Enjoy President Barack Hussein Obama.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:56 amI wrote many letters to my local progressive station when we had the “Jerry Springer Radio Showâ€. I urged them to dump him and hire Stephanie. I’m regretting my effort.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda
By your posts I am beginning to see that you view the world as black or white. There are no shades of gray for you.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:56 amI’m with Conyers on this one. I’d rather not see a McCain presidency.
Comment by toasterhead — March 4, 2008 @ 9:51 am
**Please read the humorous Top Ten list (post #1) today that I put up.
Toaster, I would rather have a McCain Presidency with the Constitution and rule of law restored than a KUCINICH presidency with Unitary executive powers.
With the Constitution and Rule of Law restored there'd be no illegal wars, torture, vote caging, signing statements, loss of Habeas Corpus, spying on our phone calls, emails etc.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:58 amwish i could watch Morgan pack up her desk.
Comment by grover nerdkissed — March 4, 2008 @ 9:55 am
You think she was given time to do that?
March 4th, 2008 at 9:58 amToaster, I would rather have a McCain Presidency with the Constitution and rule of law restored than a KUCINICH presidency with Unitary executive powers.
Wow, you really are black/white. You don't think that President Obama can reverse the damage to the constitution that the Bushies have inflicted? Do you really think that Obama would use the "Unitary Executive" powers? Hillary maybe, but I doubt Obama. He is a constitutional scholar and I have total faith that he will do what it takes to restore the constitution and the rule of law in this country. I'm also hoping that he goes after every person in the Bush administration who has committed crimes and makes sure they are prosecuted.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:01 amI'm with Mr. Baggins on this one.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:02 amBy your posts I am beginning to see that you view the world as black or white. There are no shades of gray for you.
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 9:56 am
On some issues there is no gray: The Constitution, Rule of Law etc.
I appreciate the comedic efforts of Stephanie and Jim, who may be the funniest person on radio. But to give such praise to John Conyers shows that Stephanie hasn't done her research. This must be what it sounds like when Rush Limbaugh interviews Dick Cheney.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:02 amwho is Good Golly more scared of? Obama or Clinton?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:04 amWow, the Snark is strong this morning...
Feel... the Snark.
BE... the... Snark.
Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
March 4th, 2008 at 10:05 am"Do you really think that Obama would use the “Unitary Executive†powers? Hillary maybe, but I doubt Obama. He is a constitutional scholar and I have total faith that he will do what it takes to restore the constitution and the rule of law in this country. "
I seem to remember Bilbo calling me hopelessly idealistic. It's funny, coming from someone with such an obvious man-crush on Obama.
You're in for a rude awakening, and I look forward to rubbing your nose in it.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:07 am"I’ve never even heard of Melanie Morgan. It looks like she wasn’t syndicated and was only on one AM station in a single market.
Comment by good_golly"
I don't think she any syndication, because most other folks knew she was a totally silly, idiot, stupid RePUB. She got the job at KSFO because her Hubby was program manager at the station and he was an absolutly silly idiot stupid Repug, I guess she stopped giving head!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:08 amWith the Constitution and Rule of Law restored there’d be no illegal wars, torture, vote caging, signing statements, loss of Habeas Corpus, spying on our phone calls, emails etc.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
Agreed. Which is why I'm much more concerned with putting a sensible, level-headed person in the White House than attempting a futile attempt at impeachment that will only embolden the Republican al-Qa'ida.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:10 amhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/03/AR2008030302814.html?hpid=topnews
House and Senate Democratic leaders are headed into talks today that they say could lead to a breakthrough on legislation to revamp domestic surveillance powers and grant phone companies some form of immunity for their role in the administration's warrantless wiretapping program after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
I am stunned this is still going on. How many calls or emails will it take to stop this? Oh, I forgot, they don't listen to the people who elected them.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:11 amYou don’t think that President Obama can reverse the damage to the constitution that the Bushies have inflicted? Do you really think that Obama would use the “Unitary Executive†powers? Hillary maybe, but I doubt Obama. He is a constitutional scholar and I have total faith that he will do what it takes to restore the constitution and the rule of law in this country.
Comment by bilbobaggins — March 4, 2008 @ 10:01 am
Can Obama reverse the damage? If he sincerely wants to I think he can reverse some of it. There's too much damage to correct it all.
Being President is very intoxicating. Good men (and women) go to Washington all the time and get corrupted. I've read stories that decent people who believed in public service got corrupted as soon as they were given orientation. That's why the founders constructed the checks and balances as such. They realized that a nut like Bush would one day take the office. The founders constructed our system realizing that a sick, criminal President would take the helm and he must be held in check.
It's more important that the rule of law, Constitution and Checks and Balances be restored than it is to put our faith in the goodness of any individual, be it Obama, Kucinich or Mother Theresa.
If you have total faith in Obama perhaps you see something in him that I don't. Maybe you "read" him better.
I simply would rather not be put in this position. Restoring the law must be job number 1.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:12 amI seem to remember Bilbo calling me hopelessly idealistic. It’s funny, coming from someone with such an obvious man-crush on Obama.
You’re in for a rude awakening, and I look forward to rubbing your nose in it.
Comment by barfly
I agree with most of what bildo posts but barfly has hit on something that I have noticed lately too. I support Obama too but I recall bildo saying that if security was allowed to be lapse at an Obama event and he were assasinated that the American people would take to the streets in revenge.......I thought at the time that Bilbdo might be reading a little too much into Obama's popularity or too much into the American's passion for politics.....I think many of us would be outraged but I don't think more than a handful would go to the streets with it....
March 4th, 2008 at 10:14 amAgreed. Which is why I’m much more concerned with putting a sensible, level-headed person in the White House than attempting a futile attempt at impeachment that will only embolden the Republican al-Qa’ida.
Comment by toasterhead
This talking point has about as much validity as the original. Let's not make waves, 'cause those republicans play so rough...
March 4th, 2008 at 10:15 amCaption Contest
Hey want a date sailor! Please put $1 in pennies in the parking meter to the right.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:16 am**Please read the humorous Top Ten list (post #1) today that I put up.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 4, 2008 @ 9:58 am
Read it. The unfortunate fact is that impeachment proceedings will not save a single Iraqi or American life. They'll have no effect on home foreclosings or carbon emissions. They won't stop Israel's proxy war with Iran. They won't stop caging and other voter suppression tactics - in fact they might be a major distraction from news stories exposing these attempts to rig the election.
Don't get me wrong - I'm all for justice and seeing the Bush regime tried for crimes against humanity. But I believe that now is exactly the wrong time to bog down both houses of Congress with a dual impeachment.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:17 amGG do you still think Sunni and Shiite, Iran and Taliban/AlQaeda are friends today?
hahahaha
March 4th, 2008 at 10:17 amVanity Fair writes that the Bush administration’s plan to arm and train Palestinian fighters loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas backfired and led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called the central premise of the article “ludicrous†and said it was necessary to counteract Iranian influence.
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When are people finally going to acknowledge that George W. Bush has a chronic case of what my father calls the Reverse Midas Touch and that any project in which he's involved is virtually destined to fail? Look at all his failed ventures prior to going into politics -- his track record, both before and during the presidency, is riddled with failed schemes because it's clear that the man won't acknowledge the fact that simply because he thinks a plan will work and wants it to work isn't enough by itself to make it work. So why did anyone expect this would be different?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:17 amwho is Good Golly more scared of? Obama or Clinton?
Comment by hellinabucket — March 4, 2008 @ 10:04 am
I suspect GG's more afraid of Clinton. Even though all the polls indicate McCain will have a much easier time beating Clinton in the general election than Obama (making Clinton the logical choice of Republicans to get the Democratic nomination), good_golly has been all about ending "the Clinton machine". Now. In the primaries.
I could be wrong, and good_golly may have a different response. GG?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:17 amComment by Fred
I can't say I agree with you Fred, since that would be going against The Barfly Code, but I don't disagree.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:18 amContinuing my Post #71.
...Yes, I do realize that with a McCain Presidency there's no hope that our country will return to the rule of law. And with an Obama Presidency there's a much great chance of that happening to some degree.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:20 amMahmoud Ahmadinejad: US unwelcome in Iraq
March 4th, 2008 at 10:21 amChicago Tribune - 30 minutes ago
By Liz Sly | Tribune correspondent 3:34 PM CST, March 3, 2008 BAGHDAD—Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave Iraq $1 billion on Monday and told America to go home, as he wrapped up a two-day visit to Baghdad aimed at cementing Iran's blossoming ...
Comment by missmolly — March 4, 2008 @ 9:16 am
Last week, I read where people in this country were, indeed, turning away from their religion. The hateful speech, the hypocritical lives of their leaders, the backward looking fundamentalists have seen a backlash.
From CNN:
....nearly half of American adults leaving the faith tradition of their upbringing to either switch allegiances or abandon religious affiliation altogether, a new survey finds.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/02/25/religion.survey.ap/
March 4th, 2008 at 10:21 amMelanie Morgan... fired?
**snicker**... **chortle**
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Seriously, I live in the Bay Area and have had the misfortune of listening to her on air. At times it seemed as though she was trying to prove a woman could be as obnoxious and vicious as Michael Savage. Talk about ugly w/ a capital "U".
I wonder how long it will take for the wingnuttery to try and spin this as a plot by "tha libruls" to silence them? Hopefully, this is the beginning of the end of Hate Talk Radio. Like missmolly said above, mebbe folks are just simply tired of being told to hate, hate, hate... in anybody's name.
Who's next? Beck? Savage? All things must pass. Mebbe it's time for Hate Talk Radio to shuffle off to extinction. We can only hope, and point and laugh each time one of these pus filled monsters gets cut loose.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:21 amDon’t get me wrong - I’m all for justice and seeing the Bush regime tried for crimes against humanity. But I believe that now is exactly the wrong time to bog down both houses of Congress with a dual impeachment.
Comment by toasterhead — March 4, 2008 @ 10:17 am
Hopefully we'll have the opportunity to discuss this topic again when I have a bit more time!
The website afterdowningstreet.org is the IMPEACHMENT website. Check it out every so often. You might be won over.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:23 amThose who installed Muckeasy are getting what they asked for now.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:24 amI can’t say I agree with you Fred, since that would be going against The Barfly Code, but I don’t disagree.
Comment by barfly
my comments were not meant to be derogatory towards bilbo. I just think his passion may be overcoming his logic just a little. I don't think that's so bad except you might wind up with expectations that will not be realized.
The American people have had too many of this kind of incident and they have failed each time to rise to the occasion. I have lowered my expectations of the American people to make choices in their own best interest.........maybe I am wrong and I hope that I am.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:24 amwhy not?
Pioneering doctor opens first clinic in British supermarket
March 4th, 2008 at 10:24 amInternational Herald Tribune - 1 hour ago
AP Busy Britons scrambling for groceries at the J. Sainsbury supermarket in this northern England city can now add a doctor's appointment to their shopping list.
Britain Gets First Clinic at Supermarket Guardian
Combining Grocery Shopping With Doctors’ Appointments New York Times
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 10:20 am
Has anyone ever EXPLAINED to g_g that wayne was, uh, in the military and actually SERVED over there?
I guess g_g has learned more about the world from the safety and security of "Mummy's Basement" than most of us will ever understand.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:24 amOxyContin boy wants Texans to vote for Clinton!
Really? Obama got you that scared? GOOD!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:25 amYou might be right miss molly. Either candidate will give McCain fits. Clinton is battle tested and won't back down. Obama represents everything McCain isn't.
Either way it's building up to a tremendous election season. I hope the seats in the House and Senate aren't overlooked in this battle royale.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:25 amThose who installed Muckeasy are getting what they asked for now.
Comment by Keith H. — March 4, 2008 @ 10:24 am
Hey, we're looking at YOU, Schermer... 'n Feinstein...
March 4th, 2008 at 10:26 amAgreed. Which is why I’m much more concerned with putting a sensible, level-headed person in the White House than attempting a futile attempt at impeachment that will only embolden the Republican al-Qa’ida.
Comment by toasterhead
This talking point has about as much validity as the original. Let’s not make waves, ’cause those republicans play so rough…"
Eggs-zact-ly Sir
if the Demo return only softballs, then things will get worse down the line. it's a basic fact that knocking the Repug down in the dirt, possibility never to get up again is the the way this has to end. If we would have seen this when RR came to power or even when Nixon did his stuff, perhaps Bush-ola might have never happened.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:26 amComment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 4, 2008 @ 9:48
I was very skeptical when my local radio station carried Springer's radio show in the past, but after listening to him, I found him to be the polar opposite of his TV show personality. He is a thoughtful liberal, able to see complexities in the issues, and he was an excellent interviewer.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:28 amStephanie Miller delivers a humorous news program; her interviews are pretty soft. Her co-anchor is not only smart and witty, he is really funny and talented.
Those who installed Muckeasy are getting what they asked for now.
Comment by Keith H.
Actually, this is probably true. They wanted a bushie to fill the job, so they wouldn't have to worry about being put through the political stress an impeachment would entail. all their pet progects would have to be shelved, or scaled back, to make room for impeachment in their already busy schedules, and it would seriously crimp their abilities to fund-raise, if they were stuck doing their jobs.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:30 amThe website afterdowningstreet.org is the IMPEACHMENT website. Check it out every so often. You might be won over.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 4, 2008 @ 10:23 am
I'll check it out - thank you.
if the Demo return only softballs, then things will get worse down the line.
Comment by natisman — March 4, 2008 @ 10:26 am
And what happens if the House puts impeachment up for a vote and it loses? You don't think that would be far worse down the line?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:31 amHas anyone explained to you that McCain was in the military and actually served, but neither Clinton nor Obama ever served?
Comment by good_golly
How much respect did you and your kind show John Kerry? You might want to drop this topic.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:31 amworth a looksee:
About Those Health Care Plans by the Democrats ...
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: March 3, 2008
WASHINGTON — While Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama fight over who has the better health plan for the uninsured, they say little about a more immediate challenge that will confront the next administration, whether Democratic or Republican: how to tame the soaring costs of Medicare and Medicaid.
The two programs, for older Americans and low-income people, cost $627 billion last year and accounted for 23 percent of all federal spending. With no change in existing law, the Congressional Budget Office says, that cost will double in 10 years and the programs will account for more than 30 percent of the budget.
[...]
Peter R. Orszag, director of the Congressional Budget Office, said, “The bulk of the projected increase in spending on Medicare and Medicaid is due not to demographic changes, such as increases in the number of beneficiaries, but to increases in costs per beneficiary.â€
And what is driving those costs?
“Most of the long-term rise in health care spending is associated with the use of new medical technologies,†the budget office said in a recent report. It suggested that more selective use could save substantial amounts — a prospect that alarms manufacturers of some medical devices.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am[...]
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/us/politics/03qhealth.html?ref=us
Make that "projects."
I do the best I can, using two fingers. Sorry.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:32 amanybody else in illinois area listening to XM?
or NOT listening, in my case... guess it's all the ice raining down...
the satellite can't punch though the ice clouds...
just curious...
March 4th, 2008 at 10:33 am“House Democrats said a civil lawsuit could be filed as early as this month that challenges the Bush administration’s claims of executive privilege
Why the rush?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:33 amActually, the photo of Melanie bears a striking resemblance to John McCain
March 4th, 2008 at 10:37 am"Actually, the photo of Melanie bears a striking resemblance to John McCain
Comment by Nevar"
They both have big jowls as they are storing up nuts for after the election.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:42 am“House Democrats said a civil lawsuit could be filed as early as this month that challenges the Bush administration’s claims of executive privilege in curtailing aides from testifying on Capitol Hill.†Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is pursing civil litigation because Attorney General Michael Mukasey refuses to enforce contempt citations against two White House aides.
As early as this month, huh Nancy? Um yeah, I thought you said that in anticipation of Mukasey's refusal to enforce the contempt citations, the paperwork had been prepared ahead of time?
Frankly, I was looking for the lawsuit to be filed yesterday...
Thanks for nothing....again.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:46 amThe Senate yesterday confirmed Mark R. Filip, a federal judge from Chicago and former law clerk to Justice Antonin Scalia, as deputy attorney general. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) had previously placed a hold on Judge Filip’s nomination over…waterboarding but lifted it.â€
Why, Dick? Why lift the hold? Water torture not a problem anymore...?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:49 amComment by Fred — March 4, 2008 @ 10:31 am
Well said Fred.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:49 amif the Demo return only softballs, then things will get worse down the line.
Comment by natisman — March 4, 2008 @ 10:26 am
And what happens if the House puts impeachment up for a vote and it loses? You don’t think that would be far worse down the line?
I am not in favor of impeachment, Congress sat around way too long on that one. we have no time to do it, with elections and probably control of the senate, and President. I assume that was the what the power to be in in the Demo end of the congress had in mind as well. After Feb. of next year every thing should be in shape for taking it to the RePUGs. All anony one has to do now is pay attention to elections and don't push Bush-Co to declaring #51. It's kind of like probation for the Constitution for about one year. then we can have some fun and do the whack-a-mole.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:59 am... George W. Bush has a chronic case of what my father calls the Reverse Midas Touch and that any project in which he’s involved is virtually destined to fail? [...]
Comment by Bluestocking — March 4, 2008 @ 10:17 am
mike papantonio calls it "snake bit"...
Jonah's Snake Bit Economy
March 4th, 2008 at 11:00 am1/21/2008
Mike Papantonio of GoLeft TV and Air America's Ring of Fire talks about how George Bush's bad luck has become so bad that not only has he destroyed the US economy, but now he's managed to take down the entire global economy.
http://ringoffireradio.com/media_source_PA.asp?srcid=10&offset=10
So, because bilbo isn't as cynical as some...that is a bad thing? He has a point. If you can't trust a Constitutional Scholar to make things right with the 'Unitary Executive' you might as well scrap the whole system. Our country is finished.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:15 amComment by satirev — March 4, 2008 @ 11:11 am
'Zat you, Veritas?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:15 amSo, because bilbo isn’t as cynical as some... that is a bad thing? He has a point. If you can’t trust a Constitutional Scholar to make things right with the ‘Unitary Executive’ you might as well scrap the whole system. Our country is finished.
Comment by Sabyen91
A "constitutional scholar" and a politician, who will do the right thing, if circumstances permit. And bilbo has a cynical streak a mile wide - I'm surprised you missed it.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:26 amComment by missmolly — March 4, 2008 @ 11:15 am
Of course!!
**smacks forehead**
March 4th, 2008 at 11:33 amImpeachment proceedings will also send a strong signal to the international community that the american people are not represented by dictator Bush.
Comment by satirev — March 4, 2008 @ 11:15 am
I think the international community already knows this. In all the places I've travelled, people seemed to be well aware that Bush does not represent me.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:35 amCondi is soo off the mark or is just plain lying to protect a phoney bush peace policy.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:37 amAmerican proposals are mired in an IPAC propaganda that distorts any peaceful solution to this problem.
Iran is not the road block to peace, America is.
If we were schooled in the realities of the middle east, people would have a much different view of the situation.
America lives in the dark. And W and Condi want to keep it that way.
**smacks forehead**
Comment by Zooey
I suppose I should have caught that one...
March 4th, 2008 at 11:40 aminstead of thinking Satire V was another star system.......
Has anyone explained to you that McCain was in the military and actually served, but neither Clinton nor Obama ever served?
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 10:28 am
Not quite sure what this razor-sharp retort has to do w/ the original comment, but hey, yer a troll... you can't and don't make sense.
So if yer not in "Mummy's basement", does that mean you live in the garage? Or in the the crawl space?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:42 amwho is Good Golly more scared of? Obama or Clinton?
Comment by hellinabucket — March 4, 2008 @ 10:04 am
His own shadow? The 3rd graders who point and laugh at him in the park?
That little Chihuahua down the block?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:43 amvie C&L blog roundup - very entertaining:
Politits: Make mine a double standard.
[...]
So, here's a question of the day......tell me in comments......what's your favorite Republican hypocrisy or double standard?
http://politits.blogspot.com/2008/03/question-of-day-make-mine-double.html
March 4th, 2008 at 11:44 amImpeachment proceedings will also send a strong signal to the international community that the American people are not represented by dictator Bush. If we admonish our own for lying and corruption, then we can exonerate ourselves in the eyes of the rest of the world.
If this fails to occur, we are doomed and will one day be overtaken by a coalition of those who see us as “evilâ€. -- Satirev
************************************************
Exactly. I've seen several posts on various message boards in recent months written by people from other countries basically saying "WHY are you people letting Bush get away with this and WHY aren't you doing more to stop him?" -- and they have a point, because it can be plausibly argued that silence and passivity in a free country such as ours is supposed to be is equivalent to giving implicit consent and that complacency is complicity. This country was founded on the idea that governmental leaders have a responsibility to the people and should be afraid of the people instead of the other way around -- and frankly, I think our Founding Fathers would be both ashamed and disgusted if they could see what we've allowed ourselves to become and how much we've taken their sacrifices for granted. These were people who, if they had lost their bid for independence, could quite easily been taken back to England to face charges of treason -- and who, if they had been convicted, would quite possibly have been subjected to the usual penalty for treason, which was drawing and quartering! Just because some people insist on being like the sheep in George Orwell's Animal Farm and bleating "Republicans good, Democrats ba-a-a-ad!" doesn't make that true and doesn't mean that people have to listen. Just because we're the most powerful nation on the planet doesn't necessarily mean that we own the place, that we are entitled to do whatever we want, and that everyone else is irrelevant. Throughout history, there are many examples of nations which have gone down that same path -- and every last one of them has in the end lost most of the power and influence they once had (such as the British empire) or been eliminated completely, sometimes violently.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:44 amThe idiot still has no pin
Submitted by SEDER on Sun, 03/02/2008 - 9:37pm.
Does this make him unpatriotic and a hypocrite?
http://samsedershow.com/node/2566
March 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pmI’m not much of a poll watcher
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 10:25 am
Gigi lies again. How many off-topic posts has she made, cherry-picking the one poll that shows John McCain leading Obama, or showing whatever point she wants to buttress?
Gig claims to be "not much of a poll watcher" because she wants to be like Dumbya, who values ignorance, and she wants to insinuate that liberals ARE "poll watchers" and are therefore weak and incapable of forming their own opinions.
Truth is, Gigi wouldn't have anything to post if she didn't get her talking points in her email.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:39 pmRight-wing radio host Melanie Morgan — who once called for the editor of The New York Times to be “sent to the gas chamber†— has been fired from her job at KSFO 560 AM, but will continue her World Net Daily column.
Oh, boo, hoo, hoo.... "Press censorship! Censorship!, I tellya!!!"
Maybe she can go back to gambling the slots in Reno and make her money (or lose it) the red-blooded Amur'kun Way.....
Cheers,
March 4th, 2008 at 12:44 pmYour reading comprehension needs some work. I said that Iran had provided support for al Qaeda, both before and after the election of Ahmadinejad, and provided you with links to at least a dozen articles supporting this statement. Read.
Comment by good_golly — March 4, 2008 @ 10:20 am
Fact. Iran was in a state of war with the Taliban and Al Qaeda when the US invaded. Al Qaeda was fighting Iran at the border and made several suicide bomb attacks inside Iran. Iran was supporting the rebels fighting the Taliban.
Fact. Iran offered to help with fighting Al Qaeda, Bush refused talks
Fact. Iran has arrested Al Qaeda operatives trying to slip from Pakistan ( our supposed friends ) through Iran into Iraq.
Fact. Iran is mostly Shiite, the Taliban and Al Qaeda are Sunni. Both factions have been at each others throats for centuries.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:45 pmCommenting on the climate change deniers conference in New York City, Princeton University geosciences professor Michael Oppenheimer said that climate skeptics “have to get together to talk to each other, because nobody else is talking to them.â€
That would be: "... have to get together to listen to themselves and each other, because nobody else is bothering to listen to them...."
Just to be clear about it.
Cheers,
March 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pmJust a note on today's primaries.
If Clinton wins Ohio 55/45, she only picks up a net of 18 or so delegates.
If she wins Texas by 52/48 (latest polling average, give or take a percent) she picks up a net 9 delegates.
Even a 'victory' would be symbolic in both races, as she isn't going to significantly dent Obama's 100+ delegate lead.
Add Pennsylvania in, with a 53/47 split for Clinton, and she picks up 11 more.
She's toast.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:08 pmbilbo proved himself to me a while back that he's too easily blinded by his ideology (yaknow, turning down someone's 'let's agree to disagree on this' is a BIG part of what is wrong with society today, and since bilbo went that route, he's no better than good_golly in my eyes)
All the bile in the political system today is a big reason why the Neocons are taking over. Both Clinton and Obama are light-years better than McCain, but little differences in ideologies and mindset makes shills scream that they're not going to vote for 'insert name of candidate here'. Of course, you're free to vote for and not vote for whoever you want, but this independent looking in sees a simple factor: United You Will Stand, Divided You Will Fall. This is EXACTLY what the Neocons want. They know they can't stand against the united force of the US population, but if they can keep you all at each others throats, then well, in 2009 when McCain gets sworn in, I'll shake my head and continue my preparations for leaving the whole arguing lot of ya behind.
PS: THis is not directed to those who accept differences in opinions, but instead, to those who scream "I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is stupid|insensitive|racist|sexist|a communist|a terrorist lover|a Bush lover|etc!"
You all know who you are.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:42 pmwell, jeremy, i'm not sure how helpful THAT was...
...
in the meantime:
Uribe Seeks Chavez Charges at International Court (Update1)
By Joshua Goodman
March 4 (Bloomberg) -- Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe said he'll seek charges at an international tribunal against Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez for sponsoring terrorism.
``I'll present to the International Criminal Court charges against Hugo Chavez for financing and sponsoring genocide,'' said Uribe, on Caracol Radio, after a meeting with a former rebel-held hostage in Bogota.
[...]
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aIAvhvhWsqMQ&refer=latin_america
and duby has proclaimed that "we", the U.S., will stand with columbia...
March 4th, 2008 at 3:38 pmwell, of course we will... drugs is good business...
but i'm sure the columbian neighbors are shaking in their boots...
...
Good Golly is a moron. Even Dick "Saddam is building nukes" Cheney doesnt have the incredulity to suggest the radical Sunni Al Queda and the Shia Iranian government are allies...the shem posts some links talking about how someone in al queder crossed the iranian border, and this is his/her argument for them being allies..as if george bush or the mexican government is allied with every.
Good golly, if Al Queda and Iran are truly allies, why havent we ever heard Dick Cheney using that connection when he makes his many arguments for attacking Iran
also, im wondering if you believe there are ANY of america's enemies who don't like one another?
March 4th, 2008 at 5:46 pm>as if george bush or the mexican government is allied with every
person who crosses the border..cant even finish all my sentences
March 4th, 2008 at 5:52 pm