Think Progress

Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change

This morning, President Bush gave this keynote address at the Washington International Renewable Energy Conference (WIREC), a ministerial-level conference hosted by the U.S. government.

Trying to stamp down what he called “stereotypes,” Bush insisted the US was leading the effort to combat global warming:

Now, look, I understand stereotypes are hard to defeat. People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts. But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence; we’re in the lead when it comes to new technologies; we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change — and we’ll stay that way.

Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/bushoildep.320.240.flv]

Bush’s claim defies the imagination. At the UN conference in Bali in December, the US objected to the proposal — backed by Britain and the EU — to cut carbon dioxide emissions 24-40 percent below 1990 levels by 2020. “We have problems with defining the numbers up front,” the White House’s head climate negotiator explained.

Six months earlier, Bush single-handedly killed a statement of commitment to halving emissions by 2050 by the leaders at the G8 summit.

While the US remains only industrialized nation that has refused to sign on to the Kyoto Protocol, other nations are taking the lead:

Britain has set a strong goal to cut CO2 emissions by 60 percent by 2050, leaving the door open for steeper cuts.

Sweden will half its CO2 emissions by 2050.

–The European Union created a cap-and-trade system more than two years ago, in 2005.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has supported caps on airplane emissions.

Japan announced last month that it would consider a cap-and-trade system.

Rather than taking real action to address our warming planet, as these nations have, Bush chooses to frequently — and grossly — inflate his record on combating climate change.

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206 Responses to “Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change”

  1. sacopenapa says:

    Too much cocaine from Colombia… it kills brain cells!


  2. Ms_Joanne says:

    More from the alternate neocon reality which brings you war for peace, never met a scientist they couldn’t dismiss, black is white, and you don’t mean diddly squat to us.

    Oh wait, that last bit is true.

    SEE! TOLD YA SO!


  3. Juan C. says:

    But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence

    That’s why Rove just said that if US gives Iraq up, the oil barrel would hit $200. Because of independence, I see.


  4. overlap says:

    If This isnt totally delusional….. what is???


  5. SP Biloxi says:

    Weed + Jack Daniels = Bush’s comments.


  6. joe cantwell says:

    totally and completely insane.


  7. had enough says:

    I can not figure out why Bush even bothers to get out there and make up these stories…. the insanity of it all.


  8. Bob says:

    Stereotypes??!?!!

    The only thing stereotypical is the way he is lying by preying on the ignorance of those still stupid enough to believe a gd thing that spews from his delusional lips.


  9. Tired of being lied to says:

    The “Delusional in Chief” has spoken again. And again, the ‘Mericans look like idiots. Please, World, don’t judge us too harshly by this idiot who is temporarily in the White House.

    I used to think he was just drinking. Now I think he is freebasing something.


  10. MapleStreet says:

    TP – your server should burn up from the stress of hosting the incredible idea that America is in the lead of global change.

    Of course, if you take the list and hold it upside down……


  11. GL2814 says:

    He’s definitely hitting the sauce, and hard!


  12. bitterale says:

    Did he really say, “We’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change”?

    OMG, did he really say something truthful? Is this a first?


  13. Proud American Liberal says:

    No, no, no. Bush is right. America IS in the lead…to the rear.


  14. bilbobaggins says:

    Ok, that’s it. The man is certifiable. He has gone around the bend. Someone asked on the Scalila thread is there a way to get rid of a Chief Justice when he becomes medically or psychiatric ally unable to still hold office, I’m asking the same about the President.


  15. Keith H. says:

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  16. fletc3her says:

    The basic neocon strategy is to say something enough times that people start to believe it. Do you remember when there was serious debate during the Presidential race about whether Bush or Gore was more of an environmentalist? LOL.


  17. Keith H. says:

    Is anyone ever going to call him out on the constant lying ?


  18. pete says:

    A human brain would have exploded by now.


  19. rastaman says:

    “we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change — and we’ll stay that way.”

    no argument there.


  20. Zooey says:

    The Chimp doesn’t listen to himself — just like we don’t listen to him.

    Too busy laughing…..and crying.

    ~Hussein Zooey


  21. Zooey says:

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    Flag the ‘fraidy cat troll.

    ~Hussein Zooey


  22. tom says:

    “People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts.”

    Boy, isn’t that the truth! GDumbya is the prime example.


  23. flavorino says:

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    Nice try troll.
    Your comment might have gotten some attention in 2003

    It’s 2008. Your nonsense is meaningless and irrelevant.


  24. Xisithrus says:

    Leo Strauss would be proud of this bit of ‘reality-based’ bovine droppings.


  25. Mr. Evil says:

    President Shit-For-Brains is at it again. Open mouth, jam in foot. What a complete doofus.


  26. Xisithrus says:

    Bert, still living in the past? Reagan didnt defeat the Soviet Union and if you have been paying attention and have looked at our economy you would know what a mess we have under the current admin.


  27. muckdog says:

    France is the leader in the fight against climate change, as thet generate 90% their electricity from nuclear power. Nuclear power generates zero greenhouse gas.


  28. robbez_92107 says:

    “We do not torture.”


  29. williamf says:

    I am sick of all of the harm this fraud for a president has done to our democracy and to our standing in the international community. Today he was dancing a little jig waiting for his clone to come to the WH while the world watched thru various news services. I am counting the days until he is out of office. A new president and hopefully a new congress with some firepissers in it will clean up his mess.


  30. robbez_92107 says:

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    C’mon – keep up with the talking points:
    best president since LINCOLN!

    Trolls with obsolete talking points is SO Redstate!

    -Rob Hussein Bez


  31. robbez_92107 says:

    Obama will bring honor back to the White House.


  32. kimmy says:

    Will he ever stop lying?
    Will he ever admit to pandering to big business?
    When will his nose grow?
    When will someone remove that irritating smirk off his face?
    When will he and Cheney be impeached?
    Please, someone do it soon. We don’t need to drag the US down even more.


  33. GL2814 says:

    the greatest President since Ronald Regan.

    Your last “sentence” speaks volumes about you, Bert. Full of errors.

    Now get your a** back to Sesame Street.


  34. Bad Eye says:

    In the lead when it comes to new technologies? What a moron.

    I’d like him to give specifics.

    He sure can’t cite mass-produced hybrid cars, of which Honda started selling to the general public nearly 10 years ago, long before American car makers bothered.

    Instead, a few years ago we got a hybrid Chevy Silverado (and GMC Sierra) which pretty much functioned as a mobile generator because it wasn’t designed to propel the truck in any way; in addition to providing a fine generator, complete with electrical outlets in the bed, it allowed the engine to turn off and restart when the truck came to a brief stop.

    They have also sold a hybrid version of the Saturn Aura and Vue, which replaces the alternator with a belt-driven electric motor which cannot propel the car on electric power alone.

    Of all the car models they sell, Ford has introduced just one hybrid (the Escape).

    Chrysler currently has no hybrid vehicles for sale.


  35. erock says:

    Comment by Rodham Gin — March 5, 2008 @ 9:37 pm

    I didn’t see any arguments there. Just baseless speculation. Try again when you can find some links.


  36. Bushed says:

    “People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts.” Sounds like our alcoholic dear leader is projecting again. He just diagnosed Fox News, the brain damaged trolls here and his own backwards-assed Adminisration all in one short sentence.


  37. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Comment by Rodham Gin — March 5, 2008 @ 9:37 pm

    Anybody understand what this idiot is trying to say?

    Do we have a translator in the house tonight? Anyone who can speak Gibberish? Or Crapola?


  38. Bobwurst says:

    “Bush. the greatest President since Ronald Regan

    Bert mcconvoy”

    Reagan had more cognitive function his last year in office than Bush has.
    Reagan has more cognitve function now than bush.
    Reagan can dance better than bush too.

    And Reagan had sex parties with boys in the Whitehouse.
    http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm


  39. Fred says:

    I guess everyone is flagging BERT HUSSEIN CONVY
    I know I did.

    I think this one will soon follow…..he never does anything except make disparaging remarks…..

    Comment by Rodham Gin

    some people (george bush excluded) are credible when they speak.


  40. Bobwurst says:

    Sorry, that’s BobHusseinwurst…


  41. muckdog says:

    “Climate change.” LMAO.


  42. Vinnie says:

    Where are our usual trolls? They must be in a tizzy. By their logic, our great president has our country leading in an effort that is nothing more than a hoax. How do they reconcile this? Either Bush is lying or he is doing something completely stupid?

    So far all we have is Muckdog who just likes to bring up nuclear power in the hopes that it will somehow incite an argument and distract people from the powerful implication of this article (that Bush at least knows the decent thing to do is to take the lead in the fight against climate change.) Sorry, I’m not taking his bait.

    Muckdog, as a global warming denier troll, aren’t you going to denounce Bush for taking this stance?! Should the US take the lead in this or is Bush going down the wrong path?


  43. ForTruth says:

    “Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change”

    Technically that is correct.

    We invented the industrial revolution. We generate half the world’s garbage.


  44. Vinnie says:

    “Climate change.” LMAO.
    Comment by muckdog — March 5, 2008 @ 9:55 pm

    ” … we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change — and we’ll stay that way.” – George Bush

    So, should we be laughing our asses off at George Bush?


  45. Ms_Joanne says:

    Gin says:–French President Nicolas Sarkozy has supported caps on airplane emissions. He also supports a new young wife, so what.

    I know what Gin is saying. She’s JEALOUS.


  46. muckdog says:

    #44, it doesn’t matter what Bush, McCain, Hillary or Obama say about “climate change.” The wink-wink is in; comments are for political purposes only.

    Besides, shouldn’t we be burning as much fossil fuel as possible? The sooner it runs out, the sooner we’re on to the next thing.


  47. muckdog says:

    China is building dozen of new nuclear power plants.

    I guess they, like France, are concerned about CO2 emissions.


  48. questioneverything says:

    The best drugs on the planet, or the worst for the rest of us. Could somebody in the Democratic Party like Reid and Pelosi and Obama and Clinton and Dean immediately call a press conference to lambast this crap? Bush looks dumb, but he has gotten everything he wanted and so will McCain if Hillary keeps up the bitter attacks. Somebody needs to sit Penn down and tell him to go home now. We don’t need another Karl Rove, and we need a candidate in the next few weeks who can get on with it.


  49. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Comment by muckdog — March 5, 2008 @ 10:00 pm

    Class act, Li’l Muckie is!

    You folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq. The surge is working.

    Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2007 @ 2:23 am


  50. Fred says:

    they don’t call you muckdog for nothing do they?


  51. Bobwurst says:

    “Besides, shouldn’t we be burning as much fossil fuel as possible? The sooner it runs out, the sooner we’re on to the next thing.

    Comment by muck mcdog”

    Right, so we should just load all six bullets into the gun to get the game of russian roulette over quicker?

    bobhusseinwurst


  52. pete says:

    I almost begin to feel a little bit sorry for our trolls. First, they go through life trying to decide who they hate, then they hitch their star to a wholly corrupt party. Now they are seeing what they have sown. Heck, Dems outnumbered Reps, by a huge margin, in friggen Texas!

    Poor, desperate, deluded trolls. I almost pity them. Except, when shown the error of their ways, they resort to bullying, abuse, and libel.

    Party of values, my ass!

    No, I don’t feel sorry for trolls. I don’t pity them. I hold them in the deepest contempt. But, if I let my natural compassion get the better of me; all I need is a few seconds of the Chimperror’s “wit” to remind me. Trolls aren’t really human. Just like their “Troll in Chief”, human brains would have exploded long ago.


  53. Vinnie says:

    #44, it doesn’t matter what Bush, McCain, Hillary or Obama say about “climate change.” The wink-wink is in; comments are for political purposes only.

    Comment by muckdog — March 5, 2008 @ 9:59 pm

    Face it. You are calling our president a liar!

    And what a completely ridiculous argument. When even the established Republican candidates get behind something you claim they’re just playing politics. Your idiocy knows no bounds.

    Fortunately, everyone knows that the science does NOT support your ideas. Rational people and governments (especially European ones) ARE taking concrete action against climate change. Apathetic jack asses like you are a dying breed.


  54. Fred says:

    Comment by Rodham Hussein Gin

    yep, it’s a troll.


  55. 5th Estate says:

    But “we” ARE in the lead in Global Climate Change!
    We’re changing the climate faster than anyone!
    AND we lead in Energy Independence—we expend no energy, no matter how much oil costs!


  56. Bobwurst says:

    Wheres mcgigi? is she at her other job answering the phonesex line?


  57. WaltTheMan says:

    W merely wants to sell seafront property at his “ranch” in Crawford.


  58. galmud says:

    “…we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change…”

    Yes you are in the lead..

    -You’re the biggest polluter and the biggest roadblock on the road fighting climate change.

    -You are supressing science,

    -You are censoring scientists,

    -You are delaying climate-change reports, employing oilindustry lobbyists to censor the reports you publish.

    -Your chief science advisor and appointed officials refuses to aknowledge that climate-change is a crisis

    -You cut NASAs climate-science budget by 33% trashing funding for the existing climate satelite-fleet, grounding crucial future climate satelites indefinatly basically blinding scientists for years.

    -Your Republican buddies in congress held phony hearings and invited discredited climate-change deniers accusing serious climate-scientists of fraud.

    -You are pushing phony climate-goals and projects like the hydrogen car and carbon intensity goals.

    -You are stalling all international efforts in the most crucial moment of time, when scientists warn time is running out fast.

    Yes you are in the lead..

    Thanks for destroying the planet moron. You will not be missed.


  59. Vinnie says:

    #61. No, of course Gigi can’t address the issue at hand.

    Please don’t let him distract us from the article at hand.


  60. Zooey says:

    yep, it’s a troll.
    Comment by Fred — March 5, 2008 @ 10:06 pm

    Gin’s always been a troll.

    Notice, it can’t bring itself to be a “Clinton” Gin. :-D

    ~Hussein Zooey


  61. Zooey says:

    Wheres mcgigi? is she at her other job answering the phonesex line?
    Comment by Bobwurst — March 5, 2008 @ 10:09 pm

    Impressive summoning powers, bobhusseinwurst.

    It’s on your head…..

    ~Hussein Zooey


  62. Mr. Evil says:

    #40 Bobwurst: I remember that. Most people have never heard of that report that got squashed. It seems that ever since the media have turned into marshmallows. Scared shitless about whether or not to out a lying, hypocritical, perverted politician and their facilitators. Everyone should take that hardly seen newspaper headline and paste the link on every blog they can find, nonstop, daily. Scumbags!

    Mr. Hussein Evil


  63. Fred says:

    Comment by Arn Gunnutes

    I think they run things down there Arn. they are just up here farting around.


  64. Bobwurst says:

    HusseinZooey,

    I’m guessing that the regular trolls are out getting their talking points retooled. this always happens when something unexpected happens. that’s why we have bertmcconvey talking about reagan for god’s sake. they’ve been expecting Hillary to crash and burn yesterday and now they have no idea what to say. that’s why they were so confused yesterday. mcgigi will be back tomorrow regurgitating her crap.

    bobhusseinwurst


  65. Bobwurst says:

    Oh look, billy mchill showed up. did the shortbus get a flat?


  66. Zooey says:

    bobhusseinwurst,

    Look at #61. :D

    ~Hussein Zooey


  67. Bobwurst says:

    Hussein Zooey

    Oh my god. I’m so sorry. I promise I won’t do that again. It is pretty funny, given the level of crap the republican base has swallowed over the last 7 years. I been saying forever that bush could take a dump in an icecream dish and these idiots would swear it was a chocolate sundae.


  68. Zooey says:

    And they’d eat it.

    Heh.

    ~Hussein Zooey


  69. Fred says:

    Comment by Billy Hussein Hill

    Billy’s website also says that DDT was not dangerous and because we outlawed it millions have died from malaria……who’d a thunk it?

    http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.html


  70. moondancer says:

    He’ll put a bounty on condors before he caves into the rational left. I’m going to introduce 10 billion fire ants into Crawford texas, fill his pond with with snakehead fish. We’ll see who enjoys their new ecosystem.


  71. osiris says:

    Just call me Hussein Osiris, too. That’s one way to defuse a name which the locksteppers are intend to degrade. Let’s all be adopt Hussein as our middle name from here on in.


  72. Zooey says:

    Comment by Fred — March 5, 2008 @ 10:31 pm

    To trolls like that, as long as it doesn’t hurt PEOPLE it’s not dangerous.

    They’re called “Cornucopians.”


  73. osiris says:

    and in the face of reality, Bush once again illustrates how mentally ill he really is. Delusion and sociopathic.


  74. katy says:

    Where are our usual trolls? They must be in a tizzy. By their logic, our great president has our country leading in an effort that is nothing more than a hoax. How do they reconcile this? Either Bush is lying or he is doing something completely stupid? [...]
    Comment by Vinnie @ 9:55 pm

    vinnie, your questions reminded me of this, from the other night:

    Jon Stewart and Senior White House Correspondent John Oliver discuss Bush’s recent trip to Africa.

    [...]
    STEWART: It’s hard for you to accept that the President has done something admirable?

    OLIVER: Well, it’s just [stammers] What’s his angle? He’s not running for reelection. There’s no ulterior military objective. He’s got no chance of becoming King of Africa. What the HELL is going on?

    STEWART: Maybe he’s just trying to do something good in a difficult part of the world.

    OLIVER: No! No! That makes it worse! Over the past seven excruciating years I’ve come to terms with the President being incompetent. The fact that we now know that he’s capable of doing good all along and has simply chosen not to, that really burns!

    … africa is the only thing he ever got right… and that was not enough…

    -Hussein Katy


  75. Fred says:

    To trolls like that, as long as it doesn’t hurt PEOPLE it’s not dangerous.

    They’re called “Cornucopians.”

    Comment by Zooey

    Horn of Plenty…….use it up and then figure out what to do next……damn.


  76. joe cantwell says:

    Comment by Billy Hill — March 5, 2008 @ 10:22 pm

    billy i heard your cousin divorced you.

    sorry about that dude.


  77. tnrc75 says:

    In addition, I am the President of Canada and my name is Inigo Montoya and the Boston Celtic will win the Stanley Cup this year.


  78. Zooey says:

    Horn of Plenty…….use it up and then figure out what to do next……damn.
    Comment by Fred — March 5, 2008 @ 10:40 pm

    Yeppers. They don’t even have to figure out what to do next — either the world will replenish itself somehow, or God will provide.

    It’s sickening.

    ~Hussein Zooey


  79. Mr. Evil says:

    Yeah. Like all of the millions of tons of toxic waste and CO2 and everything we shoot into the air every single day just magically disappears.


  80. Juan C. says:

    They’re called “Cornucopians.”
    Comment by Zooey

    I prefer the more scientific name: Morons.

    Juan Abdul Jabbar C


  81. joe cantwell says:

    you moonbats Hate Bush, Hate Bush, Hate Bush, Hate Bush. the greatest President since Ronald Regan.

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    if you like him so much why don’t take the time to learn how to spell his name?

    eh?


  82. Mr. Evil says:

    Delusional morons.


  83. Zooey says:

    I prefer the more scientific name: Morons.
    Juan Abdul Jabbar C
    Comment by Juan C. — March 5, 2008 @ 10:52 pm

    All this time I thought I was being all scientific — why am I paying for school? :-D

    ~Hussein Zooey


  84. katy says:

    Moronius delusionalisis


  85. lurker says:

    Our dependence on middle east oil has been perverting our policy in the area for some time now and the only way out is total energy independence with nuclear playing a major role.

    The terrorists don’t hate us because we are free they hate us because of our perverted policies.


  86. katy says:

    rather lame attempt…
    i can only relate to botanical, and that’s with difficulty…

    - Hussein Katy


  87. joe cantwell says:

    The terrorists don’t hate us because we are free they hate us because of our perverted policies.

    Comment by lurker — March 5, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

    yeah but they love our trolls!


  88. Vinnie says:

    This is one of the most pathetic displays from the trolls that I’ve seen in a long time. They just don’t know how to deal with this. To quote Muckie – “LMAO”.


  89. katy says:

    and, speaking of daily show, it’s that time…

    g’nite all…

    -Hussein Katy


  90. joe cantwell says:

    Comment by Vinnie — March 5, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

    and yet last night they hid in their troll holes and refused to defend “pastor” hagee and glen beck.

    not one of ‘em!


  91. Jeremy in Denver says:

    I must have missed something. Everyone’s now got Hussein in their names? What prompted this? I gotta know.

    *joins the crowd, just for the heck of it*

    Jeremy Hussein in Denver


  92. Juan C. says:

    BTW, I just saw George W Bush tap dancing…

    …somewhere in Pakistan a bunch of guys must be laughing really hard.

    Juan Abdul Jabbar C


  93. Mr. Evil says:

    I just don’t get this constant fascination with nuclear power. The waste it produces is dangerous enough. And it has to be transported to a storage facility usually out west by rail or truck. How safe is that? Not to mention the meltdown scenario ala Chernobyl. Can you imagine if every house had solar panels, one small wind generator and batteries how much more energy efficient we’d be? No waste and a hell of a lot less dependence on foreign oil. But the elites wouldn’t get to war monger and steal other countries assets and make obscene amounts of money off the blood of others, etc., etc., etc.


  94. Zooey says:

    *joins the crowd, just for the heck of it*
    Jeremy Hussein in Denver
    Comment by Jeremy in Denver — March 5, 2008 @ 11:00 pm

    Hussein katy told us that she heard on a radio show that the host was going to add Hussein to her name for public appearances.

    We thought it was a great idea!

    ~Hussein Zooey


  95. Zooey says:

    …somewhere in Pakistan a bunch of guys must be laughing really hard.
    Juan Abdul Jabbar C
    Comment by Juan C. — March 5, 2008 @ 11:02 pm

    Hell, everyone is laughing between here and Pakistan. :D

    ~Hussein Zooey


  96. Mr. Evil says:

    We’re not afraid of the name Hussein.


  97. Jeremy in Denver says:

    Mr. Evil, I think the big problem is that solar + wind + batteries, using today’s technology, cannot guarantee 100% availability of energy, not to mention solar + wind is expensive, and could even be against your community’s policies if you live in a place with an HOA.

    Our solution should be a diverse power grid. Solar, Hydroelectric, Hydrogen, Oil, Coal, Wind, Nuclear, you name it. Instead of getting our power from a single source, we get it from a variety of sources, and you phase out less efficient and more polluting sources as new sources are refined. Local power generation, especially if you can sell the unused power back when you’ve got a net excess, can be one of a large variety of sources, but you’ll still need a reactor of some kind, whether it be oil, natural gas, coal, fission, fusion, anti-matter, or zero-point energy ( :) ), for the times when the skies are cloudy and the wind doesn’t blow.

    However, a good start today _is_ building a solar array on your roof top if you can afford it.


  98. Zooey says:

    Hussein Voldemort!


  99. Jeremy in Denver says:

    Sounds like a great idea…

    :)

    And I bet the Trolls are screaming ‘ANTI-AMERICAN!’

    Hehe.

    Signed,

    Jeremy Hussein in Denver.

    (GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA)


  100. DieNowForPeace says:

    People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts.

    Words coming from personal experience no doubt.

    EARTH TO SHRUB. LOOK IN THE MIRROR FOOL.

    ~Philip C. Habib ( حَبيبْ,)


  101. ForTruth says:

  102. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Agreed, this has been a miserable showing by the trolls. Of course, they didn’t really stand a chance when they had Bert Convy at the top of the order. That’s like sending your pitcher up to the plate first.

    I guess they knew this thread was an impossible task, so they just threw out a few sacrificial sheep.

    Ralph Hussein Wonder Llama


  103. Juan C. says:

    Mr. Evil, every energy technology has its pros and cons.

    Pros: 1 ton of uranium = 20,000 tons of coal with zero CO2 release.
    Chernobyl and Three Mile Island were accidents, but it is now a very sophisticated technology. There are now 4th generation reactors and their performance is far better than before. They are trying this “transmutation” technology in order to save wastes and transform them into wastes that have some 1000 years of active life after buried. Huge installed capacity per plant: GWs.

    Cons: Regional acceptability. Wastes. Price.

    I agree with you, I prefer Solar Energy systems, but there is no magic solution.


  104. Juan C. says:

    Sorry, Juan Abdul Jabbar C.

    People at the Mosque is gonna be mad… ;)


  105. Zooey says:

    I’ve noticed that the trolls REALLY don’t like it when we’re cutting up, i.e. adding Hussein to our names. I think it makes their little authoritarian brains spasm.

    We should do this everyday!


  106. DieNowForPeace says:

    Trolls ain’t nothin’ but flies on the windscreen.


  107. Juan C. says:

    ARE gonna be mad…whatever.

    TP, you can delete my posts.


  108. joe cantwell says:

    ~hussein joe

    fun!


  109. Zooey says:

    Comment by Juan C. — March 5, 2008 @ 11:19 pm

    You speak better English than most of the trolls. :)


  110. Zooey says:

    Shit.

    ~Hussein Zooey


  111. joe cantwell says:

    Comment by Zooey — March 5, 2008 @ 11:16 pm

    ya know hussein zooey, tp use to have “trolls of courage”…

    but now it’s bb’s spam, bert’s stall tappings and billy’s inbred musings.

    they just don’t try anymore.

    ~hussein joe cantwell


  112. Mr. Evil says:

    Technologically I believe we can accomplish most anything we put our minds to. Photovoltaic cells are dropping in price every year and becoming more efficient and powerful. It just costs so much to build a nuclear power plant. What if there’s a leak at a waste facility and this radioactive shit seeps into an aquifer. Just one of my personal fears is all. I’m just saying we can do so much better than we are now. You know, with Cheney’s secret energy meetings that went so well for the rest of us.


  113. Zooey says:

    they just don’t try anymore.
    ~hussein joe cantwell

    They’re just all malnourished and peaked from living on cigarettes and Redbull, and now they’re supposed to cheerlead for McCain. It’s just too much.

    They’re quivering and sobbing behind the shed.

    Sad.

    ~Hussein Zooey


  114. Alecto says:

    740,000,000,000,000,000 watts of energy from the Wind every hour.


  115. Mr. Evil says:

    So old Georgy boy should be right at home again. Cheerleading.


  116. Mr. Evil says:

    That’s 740 Quadrillion!

    Mr. Hussein Evil


  117. slappy magoo says:

    Not to sound all Aaron Sorkin-y (because we all know how much THAT hurts your head), but the Administration wouldn’t even admit that climate change was a problem until very recently. Hell, there’s still people who work within the Administration who say the jury’s still out on global warming. SO we’ve gone from refusing to admit there’s a problem to doing more about solving the problem that people in charge of the problem can’t even all agree that there IS a problem that nations who fully admit there’s a problem? Our half-assing a job is better than people who commit their WHOLE ass to the job? Really? Is that how good we are?

    God, I hate that shell of a man.


  118. Mr. Evil says:

    Well, you know, republican DO hate facts.


  119. Juan C. says:

    740,000,000,000,000,000 watts of energy from the Wind every hour.
    Comment by Alecto

    Links and I doubt it because Watts are not units of energy are units of power: energy/time. And Watts are an instantaneus measure, so how could it be per hour?

    (I’m kind of messing around…)

    Juan Abdul Jabbar C


  120. Mr. Evil says:

    sorry left out the “s” at the end of republicans.


  121. Mr. Evil says:

    Maybe Alecto meant that we have the capability of harnessing/generating that much power from the wind.


  122. shaun says:

    “But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence…” – what the??? – how about brazil and their ethanol production,you dumb-ass!!!

    ~shaun hussein


  123. Jeremy in Denver says:

    A 100 watt bulb burning for an hour consumes 100 watt/hours (or 0.1kw/hr), which is the measure used by power companies. Watts are instantaneous (or 1/sec) long power measures…for electricity, one amp of current at 1 volt generates 1 watt. If you keep that up for an hour, you’ve just burned a watt/hour.

    Signed,

    Jeremy Hussein in Denver.

    (BWAHAhAHAHA)


  124. Juan C. says:

    Yeah, it’s possible. No other energy technology has less payback time than wind energy. Soon US and China will have the greatest installed capacity, leaving Spain and Denmark behind. Turbines are getting better and bigger every generation (I think we are in the fifth…)

    The thing is the space. You need space and a lot…


  125. PhotoSteve says:

    The lapdog press will report that “President Bush said, …” without ever daring to do a simple fact check. At best they will present a counter “opinion” making the whole issue into a he said/she said debate. Why should this administration change a strategy when it’s worked so well in the past? Perhaps if SNL did a sketch about it?


  126. RickC says:

    OK. I’ve been reading “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming” lately (after conversing with conservatives about the subject and being handed a copy of this book) to see what it is the skeptics have to say. I’d really invite others to read this book so as to get an idea where they are coming from. Below is an excerpt found on page 283 that relates to this story on the U.S. leading the way in reducing emissions.

    “Amid all of Europe’s scolding of the U.S. for not ratifying Kyoto, you might not notice that they are failing to live up to the treaty. Despite more than a decade of coercive policies and energy suppression in the name of ‘global warming,’ and their staggeringly high energy taxes, Europe is not curbing its CO2 emissions. As demonstrated in the chart opening this chapter [google: "U.S. approaching emissions stability" for a direct link to this chart], since Kyoto (1997), Europe’s carbon dioxide emissions have increased dramatically. Since 2000 they are increasing three times as fast as America’s.”

    Perhaps this last sentence and the chart data referenced showing the U.S. reducing its GHG emissions far better than Kyoto Europe has is what the Bush administration might be pointing to when it comes to the U.S. leading the way in emissions reduction.


  127. drtichy says:

    Aaahhhh…. Suddenly America is leading everything?

    We all know how dead this Country is as result of this Administration’s destructive actions for over 7 years. Now that lunatic will start preaching his BUSH-it for another 10 months pretending we are all idiots with a low IQ, trying to tell us that the Country is not that bad afterall.

    Well… who knows? May be he is right and we are actually a nation of idiots. Any Country that elects a president like this one must be nuts. And re-electing him shows for sure that the idiots superseeded the intelligent thinkers.

    I can’t believe that there is a threat of a 3rd Bush-Cain term, and some people are still inclined to have McSAME in the WH. This would be really McInsane!!!


  128. Juan C. says:

    Hussein Zooey, you are sweet. ;)

    Juan Abdul Jabbar C


  129. Zooey says:

    Hussein Zooey, you are sweet. ;)
    Juan Abdul Jabbar C
    Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 12:07 am

    You keep saying that despite all the evidence to the contrary. :)

    ~Hussein Zooey


  130. Mr. Evil says:

    We didn’t elect Bush in 2000. He was actually only elected once in 2004. He was appointed in 2000. Some fat slob named Scalia had something to do with it.


  131. marlow says:

    the greatest President since Ronald Regan.

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
    Doofus. That’s like saying “the fastest car since the Volkswagen Beetle”. GERT(ie) CONVY: most patriotic American since Arnold Benedict. Yipee-ki-yay, pissant.

    -marlow Hussein


  132. Evergreen2U says:

    Lyme disease destroys the abiity to focus and think…and talk.


  133. sherifffruitfly says:

    Um hello? We ARE in the lead in global warming. No one is heating up the globe more than we are.

    USA! USA! USA!


  134. Ms_Joanne says:

    Zooey, you have a stalker!

    YOU HAVE ARRIVED!


  135. Zooey says:

    I hate zooey the worst.
    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:54 am

    That’s “Hussein Zooey,” sweetie darling.


  136. Juan C. says:

    Heh. There must be something Hussein Zooey is doing fine to draw so much attention.

    Now, I wonder if TP allows automatically that kind of monikers…

    Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C


  137. Sabyen91 says:

    Zooey Sucks…how is mom’s basement?


  138. Mr. Evil says:

    I guess everyone at Halliburton smokes dope from a communal huka while they merrily chant; no bid… no bid… no bid contract. Beacause they’ve stolen more money from the taxpayers than anyone, socialists included. So take your ridiculous rant and your neocon inspired insults elsewhere. Go swallow a turd.


  139. Sabyen91 says:

    “Will you please go to sleep satan?

    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:57 am”

    That isn’t even clever. You are a low rent stalker.


  140. Ms_Joanne says:

    He wouldn’t know, Sabyen…mom threw him out. He’s sponging off other people now.


  141. Juan C. says:

    Keep flagging it…

    Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C


  142. Gregor Samsa says:

    we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change

    Wait… when did this happen?

    When did the Bush administration go from “we need more research on global climate change” to “we’re in the lead, and we’ll stay that way”?

    There is so much spin in that one single sentence, it’s making me dizzy…

    -Gregor Hussein Samsa-


  143. Sabyen91 says:

    “Zooey Sucks…how is mom’s basement?

    Comment by Sabyen91 — March 6, 2008 @ 12:57 am

    Attic** I would never live in a basement..”

    Wonderful.


  144. Zooey says:

    “Zooey_Sucks” is a lukewarm stalker troll. Must be hung like a pencil.


  145. Ms_Joanne says:

    Zooey, I was thinking Chicklet.


  146. 5th Estate says:

    I think we are witnessing history here today.

    1) Bush does a jig and attempts some stand-up comedy for the press whilst waiting for McCain ( why was THE PRESIDENT WAITING?).

    2) He then ignores McCain to explain (actually correctly) that talk of change when running for office is just bullshit, and he just admitted that he was bullshitting in 2000 ( plenty of us knew that but plenty of others didn’t).

    3) Now this crap about leading climate change research etc is I reckon absolutely the most plainly preposterous thing he’s ever said, and he really seems to mean believe what he says.

    I think we have just watched him finally lose his mind. Really. He’s got no sense of reality, he can’t tell truth from fiction and has no sense of ordinary protocol. He has no normal inhibitions anymore. no sense of what he shouldn and shouldn’t say, no sense of the consequences of his words. I don’t think he exhibits the usual “tell” when he’s lying anymore, he just lies and it sounds like the truth to him because he said it, ergo it is true.

    I really think he’s now honest-to-god certifiable.

    And I think the odds of him ordering military action against Iran just increased exponentially.

    ;s talking about change when running for office talk about change when running for officemerely as a ploy ( it works too)talks all over IATING? Nothing Othing better to dohas actually lost his marbles


  147. Zooey says:

    Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C
    Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 12:59 am

    Your name is evolving! :-D

    ~Hussein Abu Zooey Manson


  148. 5th Estate says:

    oops, sorry about that crap at the end


  149. Ms_Joanne says:

    5th, I was gonna ask. You’re always so coherent…which is more than I can say for some of the people here.


  150. Juan C. says:

    Your name is evolving! :-D
    ~Hussein Abu Zooey Manson
    Comment by Zooey

    WTF is that name? :D

    I just found myself a better name…I guess. Remember this quote from a movie?:

    English! English! Behold, Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakirz. I am not one of you, but I fight! I fight with Robin Hood. I fight against a tyrant who holds you under his boot! If you would be free men, then you must fight! Join us now, join Robin Hood!


  151. Zooey says:

    Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 1:06 am

    That was a terrible movie, but I I love Morgan Freeman and Alan Rickman in their roles. :-)

    ~Hussein Abu Zooey John Wayne Gacy


  152. Shayne says:

    I hate you all you all suck i pwnz0rz you all and zooey is the worst. You’re all a bunch of socialist money stealing stinky hippy idiots. Grow a brain please..

    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:51 a

    Oh look, somebody has a crush. That’s just adorable.


  153. Shayne says:

    I hate zooey the worst.

    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:54 am

    Oh no, love is hard isn’t it?


  154. Juan C. says:

    Hussein Abu Zooey John Wayne Gacy, who is this person below?

    Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 1:06 am

    Heh.

    I agree with you:

    Freeman and Rickman = world class actors.

    -Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C


  155. Sabyen91 says:

    That is Republican true love, Shayne. It is like pulling hair or poking a girl in the back in 3rd grade. The guy is smitten.


  156. Shayne says:

    Will you please go to sleep satan?

    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:57 am

    You poor thing, you’re so confused. See that face staring back at you in the mirror, yeah that ugly thing, that’s Satan.


  157. Mr. Evil says:

    Comment by Zooey — March 6, 2008 @ 1:01 am

    Hung like a pimple.


  158. Shayne says:

    Attic** I would never live in a basement..

    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:59 am

    Really, then what happens when you piss all over yourself, does it drip on
    your mother?


  159. marlow says:

    Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:51 am

    I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I JUST HATE YOU ALL! (sniff-sniff)
    I HATE YOUR ASS FACE!! (credit to Christopher Guest)
    OH, YOU’RE ALL JUST SO BAD! SO VERY VERY BAAAAD!!! (sob),
    IT’S AXIOMATIC!! (stephen King)
    LEAVE BRITTNEY ALOOOOONNNE!!!! (sniff…sob)
    It’s time for your meds, little dude.


  160. Shayne says:

    Zooey, I was thinking Chicklet.

    Comment by Ms_Joanne — March 6, 2008 @ 1:02 am

    I feel safe in the assertion that nobody is EVER going to chew it.


  161. Sabyen91 says:

    “Zooey, I was thinking Chicklet.

    Comment by Ms_Joanne — March 6, 2008 @ 1:02 am

    I feel safe in the assertion that nobody is EVER going to chew it.

    Comment by Shayne — March 6, 2008 @ 1:17 am”

    Heh. I won’t take that bet. Poor pre-pubescent Republican.


  162. Shayne says:

    Good job marlow, very funny.


  163. woodguy says:

    Now, look, I understand stereotypes are hard to defeat. People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts

    He’s talking about the 19%ers, right?

    Wood Hussein Guy


  164. 5th Estate says:

    Oh! Thanks Ms Joanne, for the kind comment a #161.

    I do try…

    .


  165. Keith says:

    “But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence”

    Entschuldigen Sie bitte! Germany gets 30% of their energy from renewables the last I heard. But I’m sure nobody would tell Georgie this!

    Newsflash: FARC laptop shows Chavez funding. Sounds like a reason for us to invade and occupy another country that coincidentally has massive supplies of OIL.


  166. Keith says:

    Zooey,
    Zooey’s Socks sounds like all the boys at recess who really liked the girl they were putting down.


  167. Sabyen91 says:

    Zooey’s milkshake brings all the freaks to the yard.


  168. Keith says:

    Did I just get called a freak?


  169. 5th Estate says:

    Keith….

    And lets not forget that Europe has less air-conditioning. a higher number of fuel-efficient cars and extensive train networks that help keep emissions down.

    There’s also a lot more activity on the eficiency and emissions front as a matter of national policy for the common good rather than faffing around until some business case can me made for the benefit of individual companies to exploit a market.

    The UK has been running public service ads for a few years now and are switching to the low energy lightbulbs ( that Ausztralia has made mandatory). The new Eurostar trains were designed to be nearly carbon neutral.
    The McClaren HQ in the UK uses lake water to cool its building and machinery, then scrubs the water and cascades it (like a mountain river, which cools it down again as it returns to the lake.

    There’s a propoasal being researched to use the Severn Bore (a tidal river wave) to drive turbines without actually damming the river (the envrinomentla impact of that idea is being studied FIRST though).

    Plenty of other intiatives springing up, whilst here in the US all we’ve got is Massachusetts refusing to allow wind trubines to spoil the view 25 miles off shore (or maybe 5 miles I forget, but really!)


  170. Sabyen91 says:

    Heh, no, not you Keith…Zooey’s new stalker.


  171. 5th Estate says:

    Oh yeah…
    it should be noted that there’s no such thing as “energy independence”–only variations of energy dependence.


  172. Keith says:

    Comment by 5th Estate — March 6, 2008 @ 2:00 am

    For the last 40 years or so, the British have thought the size of American cars was crazy. To get 35 or 40 mpg there is quite common. I had a deisel that got over 40mpg. I would have gotten more, but I averaged 90 mph. Along with the rest of Europe, they had fast trains over 25 years ago.

    Howcome Zooey gets all the stalkers? Why can’t I have a stalker?


  173. Keith says:

    I hear Scotland is making progress in wave technology. They got a lot of coastline, of course.


  174. Sabyen91 says:

    Keith, become a woman. Republican men are intrigued and terrified of strong women.

    VW, Nissan and Toyota are planning on making 90 mpg cars next year. The big 3’s warning that it will cost us 6 grand more per car to get them to 35 is BS. If they hadn’t been so stupid as to focus on SUVs for the past 10 years they wouldn’t be so far behind. Sorry, I am done buying American cars unless Saturn starts making 90 mpg cars.


  175. 5th Estate says:

    184…Keith…

    “For the last 40 years or so, the British have thought the size of American cars was crazy. To get 35 or 40 mpg there is quite common. I had a deisel that got over 40mpg. I would have gotten more, but I averaged 90 mph. Along with the rest of Europe, they had fast trains over 25 years ago. ”

    Yeah. I know, I grew up in England. The original mini did 30-35 mpg ( as long as you didn’t have to deal with too many hills). I travelled over 300,000 miles commuting to schoo/college on trains over 10 years.
    The HS 125 (125 mph standard speed was running in 1980 between major cities. One of the trains I could catch to get to school would hit 90 for most of the way (I could see the speedo where the cars were joined—no separate engine) .
    I’ve taken the Acela to Washington a few times–pathetic, it hits 90 for about 15 minutes.
    I was back in London about 2 years ago, went down to Portsmouth on a day trip. Not a fancy train by UK stanards, tons better than the Acela which AMtrak touts.
    T, I’d take it from London to Durham (about 300 miles). Getting to London from my home town taking bus and train took 40 minutes (25 miles) so with the way public transport was scheduled the whole trip took


  176. 5th Estate says:

    oops again with the crap at the end! Ignore that last para.


  177. 5th Estate says:

    right, I’m off to Bedfordshire…too many typos. Night all!


  178. scytherius says:

    Only a retard would believe anything this retard says.


  179. Gregor Samsa says:

    Next, Pres Bush will proudly announce that the US leads the charge against both imprisonment without due process and torture.


  180. Trojan John says:

    Must be nice living in the land of make-believe.


  181. Xisithrus says:

    Stereotypes are hard to defeat, good thing FOX tabloid creates them.


  182. Evil Spaniard says:

    Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change

    More like Bush is the lead that drag us all down the river bottom.


  183. the Lone Voice of Reason says:

    One of my favorite writers said that the only people that know where the edge is, is the ones that have gone over it. I think Bush has now firmly set up shop there.


  184. Perry logan says:

    This is how the world ends: not with a bang, but with a simper.


  185. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change

    Oh man!! Can I please have some of whatever it is he’s on? I would really enjoy an escape from reality too.


  186. Evil Spaniard says:

    This is a flip-flop, isn’t? Where is GiGi to chant it?


  187. Roger_Roger says:

    TP did a good job not mentioning any important nation like Russia, China, or India. When those 3 countries agree to cut their emissions, the USA should join them. We cannot as a country do something different then the other major powers unless we want to worsen out economy by giving them an unfair production advantage. Once China, Russia, and India agree to Co2 cuts, we should join.

    Stating meaningless countries like France is a joke. Lets talk about the true Co2 outputers and what they have decided to do. Lets not be so quick to shred our economy when the other world powers have done nothing. Today China has the worst Co2 output yet TP and other lib. groups do not seem to care.


  188. Doc Rock says:

    So sprach G. W. Bush: “Red is blue; up is down; and in is out. Wrong is the new right!”


  189. toasterhead says:

    As for our President, GW? It just may be America’s finest hour freeing millions on millions from the wholesale degradation, rape-rooms, torture rooms and instant murder with weapons of mass destruction by Saddam and his family while setting up an America favorable democracy in the heart of the Islamic terrorist ruled middle east. Oh you dems hate that huh?

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 6, 2008 @ 9:00 am

    Killing one million Iraqis is a really stretched definition of “freeing.”


  190. Tstatguy says:

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 6, 2008 @ 9:00 am

    Bert,

    Responding to your points in order:

    There wasn’t much of a presence of AQI because Saddam wouldn’t allow it.

    We don’t love the dictator that your hero Ron Reagan (at least I can spell his name correctly, troll) created & funded.

    As far as rape, I guess your screaming for investigations into the 40+ American women who have been sexually abused while working at Halliburton subsidiart KBR. Oh, the State Deptartment put the kibosh on looking into those allegations. If you are screaming at the inequity, scream louder – cuz I can’t hear you.

    Did you mention torture like there’s something wrong with it? Oh, it’s only OK when YOUR country does it – yeah, OK you effing hypocrite.

    There were no WMDs – or didn’t you get the memo?

    Setting up a government favorable to America in the heart of the middle east? And you wonder why they hate us?

    Yippie-Ki- Yay indeed – for you hate what America stands for (or used to).

    Tstat Hussein guy


  191. Tstatguy says:

    I meant “subsidiary”.


  192. fossilhippie says:

    The constitution has a claus for removing a president who is insane. It should be exercised immediately.

    Much simpler than an impeachment.


  193. Zooey says:

    Comment by marlow — March 6, 2008 @ 1:16 am

    Fantastic. :-)


  194. theswan says:

    Deluded in that bubble of fog for the remainder. Drunk?


  195. marlow says:

    Comment by BERT CONVY — March 6, 2008 @ 9:00 am
    Twist your panties a little more, gertie. It turns me on. It wasn’t the liberals you schreech about so shrewishly who befriended and supplied Saddam in the first place. I don’t know why you hate Saddam so much; he seems to have fit in so well with your nazi sensibilities. Anyways, off to work, just another “lib” who has to work to support red-state scumbags such as yourself. Ta sweetcheeks.


  196. Zooey says:

    Howcome Zooey gets all the stalkers? Why can’t I have a stalker?
    Comment by Keith — March 6, 2008 @ 2:12 am

    It’s yours, Keith. Just make sure to keep scraps and water out for it, and abuse it regularly. It will wither on the vine without its daily dose of whiney victimhood.

    You’d think the self-abuse would be enough…


  197. marlow says:

    Comment by Zooey — March 6, 2008 @ 10:21 am
    Thanks, Zooey. Gertie, we’ll tete a tete later. Yippie Phuk You!


  198. Art says:

    we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change -

    if such a thing ever existed.

    heh,heh,heh


  199. Evergreen2U says:

    and War is Peace. We all knew that.


  200. RUCerious says:

    In the Lead. As in heavy metal. Yes.


  201. Leftside Annie says:

    We are at war with EASTasia.

    We have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia…

    ~Hussein Annie


  202. arch_stanton says:

    Beltway toadies may have to pay attention to what Bush says, but my question is : Why does Think Progress still bother? Don’t the editors have anything better to do that patronize this psychotic waste of flesh?


  203. DrColes says:

    Over 400 World Wide Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007. See http://tinyurl.com/2dv6nz


  204. getplaning says:

    Hate to tell you this, Bushie, but Brazil leads the world in alcohol based fuel development,, and China leads the world in solar technology development, followed by Canada. Where does America lead?


  205. USpace says:

    Everyone should watch this ‘inconvenient’ movie ‘The Great Global Warming Scandal’.
    http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-4123082535546754758

    Basically, these scientists are on the same UN list of scientists the UN uses to convince the world that every scientist agrees that global warming is man-made.

    Basically, solar activity and sun spots cause warming. Eventually the oceans warm up and then release even more carbon-dioxide.

    So, carbon dioxide increases follow global warming, they don’t cause it.
    .


  206. batteries says:

    Where are our usual trolls? They must be in a tizzy. By their logic, our great president has our country leading in an effort that is nothing more than a hoax. How do they reconcile this? Either Bush is lying or he is doing something completely stupid?

    So far all we have is Muckdog who just likes to bring up nuclear power in the hopes that it will somehow incite an argument and distract people from the powerful implication of this article (that Bush at least knows the decent thing to do is to take the lead in the fight hp pavilion n6100 battery,hp nx6100 battery against climate change.) Sorry, I’m not taking his bait.

    Muckdog, as a global warming denier troll, aren’t you going to denounce Bush for taking this stance?! Should the US take the lead in this or is Bush going down the wrong path?



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