Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change
Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change
This morning, President Bush gave this keynote address at the Washington International Renewable Energy Conference (WIREC), a ministerial-level conference hosted by the U.S. government.
Trying to stamp down what he called “stereotypes,” Bush insisted the US was leading the effort to combat global warming:
Now, look, I understand stereotypes are hard to defeat. People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts. But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence; we’re in the lead when it comes to new technologies; we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change — and we’ll stay that way.
Watch it:
Bush’s claim defies the imagination. At the UN conference in Bali in December, the US objected to the proposal — backed by Britain and the EU — to cut carbon dioxide emissions 24-40 percent below 1990 levels by 2020. “We have problems with defining the numbers up front,” the White House’s head climate negotiator explained.
Six months earlier, Bush single-handedly killed a statement of commitment to halving emissions by 2050 by the leaders at the G8 summit.
While the US remains only industrialized nation that has refused to sign on to the Kyoto Protocol, other nations are taking the lead:
–Britain has set a strong goal to cut CO2 emissions by 60 percent by 2050, leaving the door open for steeper cuts.
–Sweden will half its CO2 emissions by 2050.
–The European Union created a cap-and-trade system more than two years ago, in 2005.
–French President Nicolas Sarkozy has supported caps on airplane emissions.
–Japan announced last month that it would consider a cap-and-trade system.
Rather than taking real action to address our warming planet, as these nations have, Bush chooses to frequently — and grossly — inflate his record on combating climate change.
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Too much cocaine from Colombia… it kills brain cells!
March 5th, 2008 at 8:38 pmMore from the alternate neocon reality which brings you war for peace, never met a scientist they couldn’t dismiss, black is white, and you don’t mean diddly squat to us.
Oh wait, that last bit is true.
SEE! TOLD YA SO!
March 5th, 2008 at 8:40 pmBut America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence
That’s why Rove just said that if US gives Iraq up, the oil barrel would hit $200. Because of independence, I see.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:40 pmIf This isnt totally delusional….. what is???
March 5th, 2008 at 8:46 pmWeed + Jack Daniels = Bush’s comments.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pmtotally and completely insane.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pmI can not figure out why Bush even bothers to get out there and make up these stories…. the insanity of it all.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pmStereotypes??!?!!
The only thing stereotypical is the way he is lying by preying on the ignorance of those still stupid enough to believe a gd thing that spews from his delusional lips.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:50 pmThe “Delusional in Chief” has spoken again. And again, the ‘Mericans look like idiots. Please, World, don’t judge us too harshly by this idiot who is temporarily in the White House.
I used to think he was just drinking. Now I think he is freebasing something.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:51 pmTP - your server should burn up from the stress of hosting the incredible idea that America is in the lead of global change.
Of course, if you take the list and hold it upside down……
March 5th, 2008 at 8:52 pmHe’s definitely hitting the sauce, and hard!
March 5th, 2008 at 8:53 pmDid he really say, “We’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change”?
OMG, did he really say something truthful? Is this a first?
March 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pmNo, no, no. Bush is right. America IS in the lead…to the rear.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pmOk, that’s it. The man is certifiable. He has gone around the bend. Someone asked on the Scalila thread is there a way to get rid of a Chief Justice when he becomes medically or psychiatric ally unable to still hold office, I’m asking the same about the President.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pmz z z z z z z z
March 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pmThe basic neocon strategy is to say something enough times that people start to believe it. Do you remember when there was serious debate during the Presidential race about whether Bush or Gore was more of an environmentalist? LOL.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pmIs anyone ever going to call him out on the constant lying ?
March 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pmA human brain would have exploded by now.
March 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm“we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change — and we’ll stay that way.”
no argument there.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:00 pmThe Chimp doesn’t listen to himself — just like we don’t listen to him.
Too busy laughing…..and crying.
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 9:10 pmComment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
Flag the ‘fraidy cat troll.
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 9:11 pm“People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts.”
Boy, isn’t that the truth! GDumbya is the prime example.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:11 pmComment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
Nice try troll.
Your comment might have gotten some attention in 2003
It’s 2008. Your nonsense is meaningless and irrelevant.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:12 pmLeo Strauss would be proud of this bit of ‘reality-based’ bovine droppings.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:13 pmPresident Shit-For-Brains is at it again. Open mouth, jam in foot. What a complete doofus.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:14 pmBert, still living in the past? Reagan didnt defeat the Soviet Union and if you have been paying attention and have looked at our economy you would know what a mess we have under the current admin.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:15 pmFrance is the leader in the fight against climate change, as thet generate 90% their electricity from nuclear power. Nuclear power generates zero greenhouse gas.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:15 pm“We do not torture.”
March 5th, 2008 at 9:17 pmI am sick of all of the harm this fraud for a president has done to our democracy and to our standing in the international community. Today he was dancing a little jig waiting for his clone to come to the WH while the world watched thru various news services. I am counting the days until he is out of office. A new president and hopefully a new congress with some firepissers in it will clean up his mess.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:19 pmComment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
C’mon - keep up with the talking points:
best president since LINCOLN!
Trolls with obsolete talking points is SO Redstate!
-Rob Hussein Bez
March 5th, 2008 at 9:19 pmObama will bring honor back to the White House.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:21 pmWill he ever stop lying?
March 5th, 2008 at 9:30 pmWill he ever admit to pandering to big business?
When will his nose grow?
When will someone remove that irritating smirk off his face?
When will he and Cheney be impeached?
Please, someone do it soon. We don’t need to drag the US down even more.
the greatest President since Ronald Regan.
Your last “sentence” speaks volumes about you, Bert. Full of errors.
Now get your a** back to Sesame Street.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:37 pmIn the lead when it comes to new technologies? What a moron.
I’d like him to give specifics.
He sure can’t cite mass-produced hybrid cars, of which Honda started selling to the general public nearly 10 years ago, long before American car makers bothered.
Instead, a few years ago we got a hybrid Chevy Silverado (and GMC Sierra) which pretty much functioned as a mobile generator because it wasn’t designed to propel the truck in any way; in addition to providing a fine generator, complete with electrical outlets in the bed, it allowed the engine to turn off and restart when the truck came to a brief stop.
They have also sold a hybrid version of the Saturn Aura and Vue, which replaces the alternator with a belt-driven electric motor which cannot propel the car on electric power alone.
Of all the car models they sell, Ford has introduced just one hybrid (the Escape).
Chrysler currently has no hybrid vehicles for sale.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:40 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 5, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
I didn’t see any arguments there. Just baseless speculation. Try again when you can find some links.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:42 pm“People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts.” Sounds like our alcoholic dear leader is projecting again. He just diagnosed Fox News, the brain damaged trolls here and his own backwards-assed Adminisration all in one short sentence.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:48 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 5, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
Anybody understand what this idiot is trying to say?
Do we have a translator in the house tonight? Anyone who can speak Gibberish? Or Crapola?
March 5th, 2008 at 9:48 pm“Bush. the greatest President since Ronald Regan
Bert mcconvoy”
Reagan had more cognitive function his last year in office than Bush has.
Reagan has more cognitve function now than bush.
Reagan can dance better than bush too.
And Reagan had sex parties with boys in the Whitehouse.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pmhttp://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
I guess everyone is flagging BERT HUSSEIN CONVY
I know I did.
I think this one will soon follow…..he never does anything except make disparaging remarks…..
Comment by Rodham Gin
some people (george bush excluded) are credible when they speak.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pmSorry, that’s BobHusseinwurst…
March 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm“Climate change.” LMAO.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:55 pmWhere are our usual trolls? They must be in a tizzy. By their logic, our great president has our country leading in an effort that is nothing more than a hoax. How do they reconcile this? Either Bush is lying or he is doing something completely stupid?
So far all we have is Muckdog who just likes to bring up nuclear power in the hopes that it will somehow incite an argument and distract people from the powerful implication of this article (that Bush at least knows the decent thing to do is to take the lead in the fight against climate change.) Sorry, I’m not taking his bait.
Muckdog, as a global warming denier troll, aren’t you going to denounce Bush for taking this stance?! Should the US take the lead in this or is Bush going down the wrong path?
March 5th, 2008 at 9:55 pm“Bush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change”
Technically that is correct.
We invented the industrial revolution. We generate half the world’s garbage.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:55 pm“Climate change.†LMAO.
Comment by muckdog — March 5, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
” … we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change — and we’ll stay that way.” - George Bush
—
So, should we be laughing our asses off at George Bush?
March 5th, 2008 at 9:58 pmGin says:–French President Nicolas Sarkozy has supported caps on airplane emissions. He also supports a new young wife, so what.
I know what Gin is saying. She’s JEALOUS.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:58 pm#44, it doesn’t matter what Bush, McCain, Hillary or Obama say about “climate change.” The wink-wink is in; comments are for political purposes only.
Besides, shouldn’t we be burning as much fossil fuel as possible? The sooner it runs out, the sooner we’re on to the next thing.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pmChina is building dozen of new nuclear power plants.
I guess they, like France, are concerned about CO2 emissions.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:00 pmThe best drugs on the planet, or the worst for the rest of us. Could somebody in the Democratic Party like Reid and Pelosi and Obama and Clinton and Dean immediately call a press conference to lambast this crap? Bush looks dumb, but he has gotten everything he wanted and so will McCain if Hillary keeps up the bitter attacks. Somebody needs to sit Penn down and tell him to go home now. We don’t need another Karl Rove, and we need a candidate in the next few weeks who can get on with it.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:03 pmComment by muckdog — March 5, 2008 @ 10:00 pm
Class act, Li’l Muckie is!
You folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq. The surge is working.
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2007 @ 2:23 am
March 5th, 2008 at 10:04 pmthey don’t call you muckdog for nothing do they?
March 5th, 2008 at 10:04 pmthe greatest President since Ronald Regan.
Yeah, Ronald REAGAN, the TRAITOR to the US, and Bush DUPE for the OIL COMPANIES.
I guess MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA
IS like TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan, now DEAD and BURNING for ETERNITY.
And waiting for the Bushes to arrive as playtoys for MASTER Satan…
Yippie Ki…
WHACK!! Bushes face SMASHED in EVERY SECOND for ETERNITY!!
Yay!!!
Yay!!!
Yay!!!
Sincerely,
McNRA hussein Gun Nut(e)s
“WHO’S ’sane’, HUSSEIN??
March 5th, 2008 at 10:05 pmNOT ‘Bomb Bomb Iran McCain!!”
“Besides, shouldn’t we be burning as much fossil fuel as possible? The sooner it runs out, the sooner we’re on to the next thing.
Comment by muck mcdog”
Right, so we should just load all six bullets into the gun to get the game of russian roulette over quicker?
bobhusseinwurst
March 5th, 2008 at 10:05 pmI almost begin to feel a little bit sorry for our trolls. First, they go through life trying to decide who they hate, then they hitch their star to a wholly corrupt party. Now they are seeing what they have sown. Heck, Dems outnumbered Reps, by a huge margin, in friggen Texas!
Poor, desperate, deluded trolls. I almost pity them. Except, when shown the error of their ways, they resort to bullying, abuse, and libel.
Party of values, my ass!
No, I don’t feel sorry for trolls. I don’t pity them. I hold them in the deepest contempt. But, if I let my natural compassion get the better of me; all I need is a few seconds of the Chimperror’s “wit” to remind me. Trolls aren’t really human. Just like their “Troll in Chief”, human brains would have exploded long ago.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:05 pm#44, it doesn’t matter what Bush, McCain, Hillary or Obama say about “climate change.†The wink-wink is in; comments are for political purposes only.
Comment by muckdog — March 5, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
Face it. You are calling our president a liar!
And what a completely ridiculous argument. When even the established Republican candidates get behind something you claim they’re just playing politics. Your idiocy knows no bounds.
Fortunately, everyone knows that the science does NOT support your ideas. Rational people and governments (especially European ones) ARE taking concrete action against climate change. Apathetic jack asses like you are a dying breed.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:05 pmComment by Rodham Hussein Gin
yep, it’s a troll.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:06 pmBut “we” ARE in the lead in Global Climate Change!
March 5th, 2008 at 10:08 pmWe’re changing the climate faster than anyone!
AND we lead in Energy Independence—we expend no energy, no matter how much oil costs!
Wheres mcgigi? is she at her other job answering the phonesex line?
March 5th, 2008 at 10:09 pmW merely wants to sell seafront property at his “ranch” in Crawford.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:10 pm“…we’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change…”
Yes you are in the lead..
-You’re the biggest polluter and the biggest roadblock on the road fighting climate change.
-You are supressing science,
-You are censoring scientists,
-You are delaying climate-change reports, employing oilindustry lobbyists to censor the reports you publish.
-Your chief science advisor and appointed officials refuses to aknowledge that climate-change is a crisis
-You cut NASAs climate-science budget by 33% trashing funding for the existing climate satelite-fleet, grounding crucial future climate satelites indefinatly basically blinding scientists for years.
-Your Republican buddies in congress held phony hearings and invited discredited climate-change deniers accusing serious climate-scientists of fraud.
-You are pushing phony climate-goals and projects like the hydrogen car and carbon intensity goals.
-You are stalling all international efforts in the most crucial moment of time, when scientists warn time is running out fast.
Yes you are in the lead..
Thanks for destroying the planet moron. You will not be missed.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:11 pm#61. No, of course Gigi can’t address the issue at hand.
Please don’t let him distract us from the article at hand.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:11 pmyep, it’s a troll.
Comment by Fred — March 5, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
Gin’s always been a troll.
Notice, it can’t bring itself to be a “Clinton” Gin. :-D
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 10:11 pmWheres mcgigi? is she at her other job answering the phonesex line?
Comment by Bobwurst — March 5, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Impressive summoning powers, bobhusseinwurst.
It’s on your head…..
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 10:13 pmI wonder if Bush SERIOUSLY believes, given his LIES and GENOCIDE of his fellow man, that Jesus would recommend him for Heaven to
The Almighty God.
Notice his expression in the picture.
He just realized that MAYBE not…
“Oh, ZHIT!
I might BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY for my EVIL!!”
Ruh, roh, Astro!!!
Sincerely,
McNRA hussein Gun Nut(e)s
March 5th, 2008 at 10:17 pm#40 Bobwurst: I remember that. Most people have never heard of that report that got squashed. It seems that ever since the media have turned into marshmallows. Scared shitless about whether or not to out a lying, hypocritical, perverted politician and their facilitators. Everyone should take that hardly seen newspaper headline and paste the link on every blog they can find, nonstop, daily. Scumbags!
Mr. Hussein Evil
March 5th, 2008 at 10:19 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes
I think they run things down there Arn. they are just up here farting around.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:20 pmHusseinZooey,
I’m guessing that the regular trolls are out getting their talking points retooled. this always happens when something unexpected happens. that’s why we have bertmcconvey talking about reagan for god’s sake. they’ve been expecting Hillary to crash and burn yesterday and now they have no idea what to say. that’s why they were so confused yesterday. mcgigi will be back tomorrow regurgitating her crap.
bobhusseinwurst
March 5th, 2008 at 10:21 pmOh look, billy mchill showed up. did the shortbus get a flat?
March 5th, 2008 at 10:23 pmbobhusseinwurst,
Look at #61. :D
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 10:23 pmHussein Zooey
Oh my god. I’m so sorry. I promise I won’t do that again. It is pretty funny, given the level of crap the republican base has swallowed over the last 7 years. I been saying forever that bush could take a dump in an icecream dish and these idiots would swear it was a chocolate sundae.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:28 pmAnd they’d eat it.
Heh.
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 10:30 pmComment by Billy Hussein Hill
Billy’s website also says that DDT was not dangerous and because we outlawed it millions have died from malaria……who’d a thunk it?
http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.html
March 5th, 2008 at 10:31 pmHe’ll put a bounty on condors before he caves into the rational left. I’m going to introduce 10 billion fire ants into Crawford texas, fill his pond with with snakehead fish. We’ll see who enjoys their new ecosystem.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:33 pmJust call me Hussein Osiris, too. That’s one way to defuse a name which the locksteppers are intend to degrade. Let’s all be adopt Hussein as our middle name from here on in.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:34 pmComment by Fred — March 5, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
To trolls like that, as long as it doesn’t hurt PEOPLE it’s not dangerous.
They’re called “Cornucopians.”
March 5th, 2008 at 10:34 pmand in the face of reality, Bush once again illustrates how mentally ill he really is. Delusion and sociopathic.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:35 pmWhere are our usual trolls? They must be in a tizzy. By their logic, our great president has our country leading in an effort that is nothing more than a hoax. How do they reconcile this? Either Bush is lying or he is doing something completely stupid? […]
Comment by Vinnie @ 9:55 pm
vinnie, your questions reminded me of this, from the other night:
Jon Stewart and Senior White House Correspondent John Oliver discuss Bush’s recent trip to Africa.
[…]
STEWART: It’s hard for you to accept that the President has done something admirable?
OLIVER: Well, it’s just [stammers] What’s his angle? He’s not running for reelection. There’s no ulterior military objective. He’s got no chance of becoming King of Africa. What the HELL is going on?
STEWART: Maybe he’s just trying to do something good in a difficult part of the world.
OLIVER: No! No! That makes it worse! Over the past seven excruciating years I’ve come to terms with the President being incompetent. The fact that we now know that he’s capable of doing good all along and has simply chosen not to, that really burns!
… africa is the only thing he ever got right… and that was not enough…
-Hussein Katy
March 5th, 2008 at 10:38 pmTo trolls like that, as long as it doesn’t hurt PEOPLE it’s not dangerous.
They’re called “Cornucopians.â€
Comment by Zooey
Horn of Plenty…….use it up and then figure out what to do next……damn.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:40 pmComment by Billy Hill — March 5, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
billy i heard your cousin divorced you.
sorry about that dude.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:41 pmIn addition, I am the President of Canada and my name is Inigo Montoya and the Boston Celtic will win the Stanley Cup this year.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:41 pmHorn of Plenty…….use it up and then figure out what to do next……damn.
Comment by Fred — March 5, 2008 @ 10:40 pm
Yeppers. They don’t even have to figure out what to do next — either the world will replenish itself somehow, or God will provide.
It’s sickening.
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 10:44 pmYeah. Like all of the millions of tons of toxic waste and CO2 and everything we shoot into the air every single day just magically disappears.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pmThey’re called “Cornucopians.â€
Comment by Zooey
I prefer the more scientific name: Morons.
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
March 5th, 2008 at 10:52 pmyou moonbats Hate Bush, Hate Bush, Hate Bush, Hate Bush. the greatest President since Ronald Regan.
Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
if you like him so much why don’t take the time to learn how to spell his name?
eh?
March 5th, 2008 at 10:52 pmDelusional morons.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:53 pmI prefer the more scientific name: Morons.
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
Comment by Juan C. — March 5, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
All this time I thought I was being all scientific — why am I paying for school? :-D
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 10:53 pmMoronius delusionalisis
March 5th, 2008 at 10:55 pmOur dependence on middle east oil has been perverting our policy in the area for some time now and the only way out is total energy independence with nuclear playing a major role.
The terrorists don’t hate us because we are free they hate us because of our perverted policies.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:55 pmrather lame attempt…
i can only relate to botanical, and that’s with difficulty…
- Hussein Katy
March 5th, 2008 at 10:56 pmThe terrorists don’t hate us because we are free they hate us because of our perverted policies.
Comment by lurker — March 5, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
yeah but they love our trolls!
March 5th, 2008 at 10:57 pmThis is one of the most pathetic displays from the trolls that I’ve seen in a long time. They just don’t know how to deal with this. To quote Muckie - “LMAO”.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:57 pmand, speaking of daily show, it’s that time…
g’nite all…
-Hussein Katy
March 5th, 2008 at 10:58 pmComment by Vinnie — March 5, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
and yet last night they hid in their troll holes and refused to defend “pastor” hagee and glen beck.
not one of ‘em!
March 5th, 2008 at 11:00 pmI must have missed something. Everyone’s now got Hussein in their names? What prompted this? I gotta know.
*joins the crowd, just for the heck of it*
Jeremy Hussein in Denver
March 5th, 2008 at 11:00 pmBTW, I just saw George W Bush tap dancing…
…somewhere in Pakistan a bunch of guys must be laughing really hard.
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
March 5th, 2008 at 11:02 pmI just don’t get this constant fascination with nuclear power. The waste it produces is dangerous enough. And it has to be transported to a storage facility usually out west by rail or truck. How safe is that? Not to mention the meltdown scenario ala Chernobyl. Can you imagine if every house had solar panels, one small wind generator and batteries how much more energy efficient we’d be? No waste and a hell of a lot less dependence on foreign oil. But the elites wouldn’t get to war monger and steal other countries assets and make obscene amounts of money off the blood of others, etc., etc., etc.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:04 pm*joins the crowd, just for the heck of it*
Jeremy Hussein in Denver
Comment by Jeremy in Denver — March 5, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
Hussein katy told us that she heard on a radio show that the host was going to add Hussein to her name for public appearances.
We thought it was a great idea!
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 11:05 pm…somewhere in Pakistan a bunch of guys must be laughing really hard.
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
Comment by Juan C. — March 5, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
Hell, everyone is laughing between here and Pakistan. :D
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 11:07 pmWe’re not afraid of the name Hussein.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:07 pmMr. Evil, I think the big problem is that solar + wind + batteries, using today’s technology, cannot guarantee 100% availability of energy, not to mention solar + wind is expensive, and could even be against your community’s policies if you live in a place with an HOA.
Our solution should be a diverse power grid. Solar, Hydroelectric, Hydrogen, Oil, Coal, Wind, Nuclear, you name it. Instead of getting our power from a single source, we get it from a variety of sources, and you phase out less efficient and more polluting sources as new sources are refined. Local power generation, especially if you can sell the unused power back when you’ve got a net excess, can be one of a large variety of sources, but you’ll still need a reactor of some kind, whether it be oil, natural gas, coal, fission, fusion, anti-matter, or zero-point energy ( :) ), for the times when the skies are cloudy and the wind doesn’t blow.
However, a good start today _is_ building a solar array on your roof top if you can afford it.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:09 pmHussein Voldemort!
March 5th, 2008 at 11:09 pmSounds like a great idea…
:)
And I bet the Trolls are screaming ‘ANTI-AMERICAN!’
Hehe.
Signed,
Jeremy Hussein in Denver.
(GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
March 5th, 2008 at 11:10 pmPeople get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts.
Words coming from personal experience no doubt.
EARTH TO SHRUB. LOOK IN THE MIRROR FOOL.
~Philip C. Habib ( Øَبيبْ,)
March 5th, 2008 at 11:10 pmHussein Jesus.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:11 pmAgreed, this has been a miserable showing by the trolls. Of course, they didn’t really stand a chance when they had Bert Convy at the top of the order. That’s like sending your pitcher up to the plate first.
I guess they knew this thread was an impossible task, so they just threw out a few sacrificial sheep.
Ralph Hussein Wonder Llama
March 5th, 2008 at 11:11 pmMr. Evil, every energy technology has its pros and cons.
Pros: 1 ton of uranium = 20,000 tons of coal with zero CO2 release.
Chernobyl and Three Mile Island were accidents, but it is now a very sophisticated technology. There are now 4th generation reactors and their performance is far better than before. They are trying this “transmutation” technology in order to save wastes and transform them into wastes that have some 1000 years of active life after buried. Huge installed capacity per plant: GWs.
Cons: Regional acceptability. Wastes. Price.
I agree with you, I prefer Solar Energy systems, but there is no magic solution.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:12 pmSorry, Juan Abdul Jabbar C.
People at the Mosque is gonna be mad… ;)
March 5th, 2008 at 11:15 pmI’ve noticed that the trolls REALLY don’t like it when we’re cutting up, i.e. adding Hussein to our names. I think it makes their little authoritarian brains spasm.
We should do this everyday!
March 5th, 2008 at 11:16 pmTrolls ain’t nothin’ but flies on the windscreen.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:18 pmARE gonna be mad…whatever.
TP, you can delete my posts.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:19 pm~hussein joe
fun!
March 5th, 2008 at 11:21 pmComment by Juan C. — March 5, 2008 @ 11:19 pm
You speak better English than most of the trolls. :)
March 5th, 2008 at 11:22 pmShit.
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 11:24 pmComment by Zooey — March 5, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
ya know hussein zooey, tp use to have “trolls of courage”…
but now it’s bb’s spam, bert’s stall tappings and billy’s inbred musings.
they just don’t try anymore.
~hussein joe cantwell
March 5th, 2008 at 11:25 pmTechnologically I believe we can accomplish most anything we put our minds to. Photovoltaic cells are dropping in price every year and becoming more efficient and powerful. It just costs so much to build a nuclear power plant. What if there’s a leak at a waste facility and this radioactive shit seeps into an aquifer. Just one of my personal fears is all. I’m just saying we can do so much better than we are now. You know, with Cheney’s secret energy meetings that went so well for the rest of us.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:26 pmthey just don’t try anymore.
~hussein joe cantwell
They’re just all malnourished and peaked from living on cigarettes and Redbull, and now they’re supposed to cheerlead for McCain. It’s just too much.
They’re quivering and sobbing behind the shed.
Sad.
~Hussein Zooey
March 5th, 2008 at 11:31 pm740,000,000,000,000,000 watts of energy from the Wind every hour.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:33 pmSo old Georgy boy should be right at home again. Cheerleading.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:35 pmThat’s 740 Quadrillion!
Mr. Hussein Evil
March 5th, 2008 at 11:37 pmWell technically he’s accurate, since we contribute more to climate change than anyone else! Poor bush-tard didn’t understand that though!! ROTFL!
March 5th, 2008 at 11:37 pmNot to sound all Aaron Sorkin-y (because we all know how much THAT hurts your head), but the Administration wouldn’t even admit that climate change was a problem until very recently. Hell, there’s still people who work within the Administration who say the jury’s still out on global warming. SO we’ve gone from refusing to admit there’s a problem to doing more about solving the problem that people in charge of the problem can’t even all agree that there IS a problem that nations who fully admit there’s a problem? Our half-assing a job is better than people who commit their WHOLE ass to the job? Really? Is that how good we are?
God, I hate that shell of a man.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:39 pmWell, you know, republican DO hate facts.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:39 pm740,000,000,000,000,000 watts of energy from the Wind every hour.
Comment by Alecto
Links and I doubt it because Watts are not units of energy are units of power: energy/time. And Watts are an instantaneus measure, so how could it be per hour?
(I’m kind of messing around…)
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
March 5th, 2008 at 11:40 pmsorry left out the “s” at the end of republicans.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:40 pmMaybe Alecto meant that we have the capability of harnessing/generating that much power from the wind.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:43 pm“But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence…” - what the??? - how about brazil and their ethanol production,you dumb-ass!!!
~shaun hussein
March 5th, 2008 at 11:46 pmA 100 watt bulb burning for an hour consumes 100 watt/hours (or 0.1kw/hr), which is the measure used by power companies. Watts are instantaneous (or 1/sec) long power measures…for electricity, one amp of current at 1 volt generates 1 watt. If you keep that up for an hour, you’ve just burned a watt/hour.
Signed,
Jeremy Hussein in Denver.
(BWAHAhAHAHA)
March 5th, 2008 at 11:51 pmYeah, it’s possible. No other energy technology has less payback time than wind energy. Soon US and China will have the greatest installed capacity, leaving Spain and Denmark behind. Turbines are getting better and bigger every generation (I think we are in the fifth…)
The thing is the space. You need space and a lot…
March 5th, 2008 at 11:52 pmThe lapdog press will report that “President Bush said, …” without ever daring to do a simple fact check. At best they will present a counter “opinion” making the whole issue into a he said/she said debate. Why should this administration change a strategy when it’s worked so well in the past? Perhaps if SNL did a sketch about it?
March 5th, 2008 at 11:54 pmOK. I’ve been reading “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming” lately (after conversing with conservatives about the subject and being handed a copy of this book) to see what it is the skeptics have to say. I’d really invite others to read this book so as to get an idea where they are coming from. Below is an excerpt found on page 283 that relates to this story on the U.S. leading the way in reducing emissions.
“Amid all of Europe’s scolding of the U.S. for not ratifying Kyoto, you might not notice that they are failing to live up to the treaty. Despite more than a decade of coercive policies and energy suppression in the name of ‘global warming,’ and their staggeringly high energy taxes, Europe is not curbing its CO2 emissions. As demonstrated in the chart opening this chapter [google: “U.S. approaching emissions stability” for a direct link to this chart], since Kyoto (1997), Europe’s carbon dioxide emissions have increased dramatically. Since 2000 they are increasing three times as fast as America’s.”
Perhaps this last sentence and the chart data referenced showing the U.S. reducing its GHG emissions far better than Kyoto Europe has is what the Bush administration might be pointing to when it comes to the U.S. leading the way in emissions reduction.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:05 amAaahhhh…. Suddenly America is leading everything?
We all know how dead this Country is as result of this Administration’s destructive actions for over 7 years. Now that lunatic will start preaching his BUSH-it for another 10 months pretending we are all idiots with a low IQ, trying to tell us that the Country is not that bad afterall.
Well… who knows? May be he is right and we are actually a nation of idiots. Any Country that elects a president like this one must be nuts. And re-electing him shows for sure that the idiots superseeded the intelligent thinkers.
I can’t believe that there is a threat of a 3rd Bush-Cain term, and some people are still inclined to have McSAME in the WH. This would be really McInsane!!!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:07 amHussein Zooey, you are sweet. ;)
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
March 6th, 2008 at 12:07 amHussein Zooey, you are sweet. ;)
Juan Abdul Jabbar C
Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 12:07 am
You keep saying that despite all the evidence to the contrary. :)
~Hussein Zooey
March 6th, 2008 at 12:11 amWe didn’t elect Bush in 2000. He was actually only elected once in 2004. He was appointed in 2000. Some fat slob named Scalia had something to do with it.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:14 amthe greatest President since Ronald Regan.
Comment by BERT CONVY — March 5, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
Doofus. That’s like saying “the fastest car since the Volkswagen Beetle”. GERT(ie) CONVY: most patriotic American since Arnold Benedict. Yipee-ki-yay, pissant.
-marlow Hussein
March 6th, 2008 at 12:16 amLyme disease destroys the abiity to focus and think…and talk.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:34 amUm hello? We ARE in the lead in global warming. No one is heating up the globe more than we are.
USA! USA! USA!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:52 amZooey, you have a stalker!
YOU HAVE ARRIVED!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:53 amI hate zooey the worst.
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:54 am
That’s “Hussein Zooey,” sweetie darling.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:56 amHeh. There must be something Hussein Zooey is doing fine to draw so much attention.
Now, I wonder if TP allows automatically that kind of monikers…
Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C
March 6th, 2008 at 12:57 amZooey Sucks…how is mom’s basement?
March 6th, 2008 at 12:57 amI guess everyone at Halliburton smokes dope from a communal huka while they merrily chant; no bid… no bid… no bid contract. Beacause they’ve stolen more money from the taxpayers than anyone, socialists included. So take your ridiculous rant and your neocon inspired insults elsewhere. Go swallow a turd.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:57 am“Will you please go to sleep satan?
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:57 am”
That isn’t even clever. You are a low rent stalker.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:58 amHe wouldn’t know, Sabyen…mom threw him out. He’s sponging off other people now.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:58 amKeep flagging it…
Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C
March 6th, 2008 at 12:59 amwe’re in the lead when it comes to global climate change
Wait… when did this happen?
When did the Bush administration go from “we need more research on global climate change” to “we’re in the lead, and we’ll stay that way”?
There is so much spin in that one single sentence, it’s making me dizzy…
-Gregor Hussein Samsa-
March 6th, 2008 at 12:59 am“Zooey Sucks…how is mom’s basement?
Comment by Sabyen91 — March 6, 2008 @ 12:57 am
Attic** I would never live in a basement..”
Wonderful.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:01 am“Zooey_Sucks” is a lukewarm stalker troll. Must be hung like a pencil.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:01 amZooey, I was thinking Chicklet.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:02 amI think we are witnessing history here today.
1) Bush does a jig and attempts some stand-up comedy for the press whilst waiting for McCain ( why was THE PRESIDENT WAITING?).
2) He then ignores McCain to explain (actually correctly) that talk of change when running for office is just bullshit, and he just admitted that he was bullshitting in 2000 ( plenty of us knew that but plenty of others didn’t).
3) Now this crap about leading climate change research etc is I reckon absolutely the most plainly preposterous thing he’s ever said, and he really seems to mean believe what he says.
I think we have just watched him finally lose his mind. Really. He’s got no sense of reality, he can’t tell truth from fiction and has no sense of ordinary protocol. He has no normal inhibitions anymore. no sense of what he shouldn and shouldn’t say, no sense of the consequences of his words. I don’t think he exhibits the usual “tell” when he’s lying anymore, he just lies and it sounds like the truth to him because he said it, ergo it is true.
I really think he’s now honest-to-god certifiable.
And I think the odds of him ordering military action against Iran just increased exponentially.
;s talking about change when running for office talk about change when running for officemerely as a ploy ( it works too)talks all over IATING? Nothing Othing better to dohas actually lost his marbles
March 6th, 2008 at 1:02 amJuan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C
Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 12:59 am
Your name is evolving! :-D
~Hussein Abu Zooey Manson
March 6th, 2008 at 1:03 amoops, sorry about that crap at the end
March 6th, 2008 at 1:03 am5th, I was gonna ask. You’re always so coherent…which is more than I can say for some of the people here.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:05 amYour name is evolving! :-D
~Hussein Abu Zooey Manson
Comment by Zooey
WTF is that name? :D
I just found myself a better name…I guess. Remember this quote from a movie?:
English! English! Behold, Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakirz. I am not one of you, but I fight! I fight with Robin Hood. I fight against a tyrant who holds you under his boot! If you would be free men, then you must fight! Join us now, join Robin Hood!
March 6th, 2008 at 1:06 amComment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 1:06 am
That was a terrible movie, but I I love Morgan Freeman and Alan Rickman in their roles. :-)
~Hussein Abu Zooey John Wayne Gacy
March 6th, 2008 at 1:10 amI hate you all you all suck i pwnz0rz you all and zooey is the worst. You’re all a bunch of socialist money stealing stinky hippy idiots. Grow a brain please..
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:51 a
Oh look, somebody has a crush. That’s just adorable.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:11 amI hate zooey the worst.
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:54 am
Oh no, love is hard isn’t it?
March 6th, 2008 at 1:13 amHussein Abu Zooey John Wayne Gacy, who is this person below?
Comment by Juan C. — March 6, 2008 @ 1:06 am
Heh.
I agree with you:
Freeman and Rickman = world class actors.
-Juan Azeem Edin Bashir Al Bakir C
March 6th, 2008 at 1:13 amThat is Republican true love, Shayne. It is like pulling hair or poking a girl in the back in 3rd grade. The guy is smitten.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:13 amWill you please go to sleep satan?
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:57 am
You poor thing, you’re so confused. See that face staring back at you in the mirror, yeah that ugly thing, that’s Satan.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:14 amComment by Zooey — March 6, 2008 @ 1:01 am
Hung like a pimple.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:14 amAttic** I would never live in a basement..
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:59 am
Really, then what happens when you piss all over yourself, does it drip on
March 6th, 2008 at 1:15 amyour mother?
Comment by Zooey_Sucks — March 6, 2008 @ 12:51 am
I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I JUST HATE YOU ALL! (sniff-sniff)
March 6th, 2008 at 1:16 amI HATE YOUR ASS FACE!! (credit to Christopher Guest)
OH, YOU’RE ALL JUST SO BAD! SO VERY VERY BAAAAD!!! (sob),
IT’S AXIOMATIC!! (stephen King)
LEAVE BRITTNEY ALOOOOONNNE!!!! (sniff…sob)
It’s time for your meds, little dude.
Zooey, I was thinking Chicklet.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — March 6, 2008 @ 1:02 am
I feel safe in the assertion that nobody is EVER going to chew it.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:17 am“Zooey, I was thinking Chicklet.
Comment by Ms_Joanne — March 6, 2008 @ 1:02 am
I feel safe in the assertion that nobody is EVER going to chew it.
Comment by Shayne — March 6, 2008 @ 1:17 am”
Heh. I won’t take that bet. Poor pre-pubescent Republican.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:18 amGood job marlow, very funny.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:21 amNow, look, I understand stereotypes are hard to defeat. People get an image planted in their head, and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts
He’s talking about the 19%ers, right?
Wood Hussein Guy
March 6th, 2008 at 1:27 amOh! Thanks Ms Joanne, for the kind comment a #161.
I do try…
.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:37 am“But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence”
Entschuldigen Sie bitte! Germany gets 30% of their energy from renewables the last I heard. But I’m sure nobody would tell Georgie this!
Newsflash: FARC laptop shows Chavez funding. Sounds like a reason for us to invade and occupy another country that coincidentally has massive supplies of OIL.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:41 amZooey,
March 6th, 2008 at 1:43 amZooey’s Socks sounds like all the boys at recess who really liked the girl they were putting down.
Zooey’s milkshake brings all the freaks to the yard.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:45 amDid I just get called a freak?
March 6th, 2008 at 1:53 amKeith….
And lets not forget that Europe has less air-conditioning. a higher number of fuel-efficient cars and extensive train networks that help keep emissions down.
There’s also a lot more activity on the eficiency and emissions front as a matter of national policy for the common good rather than faffing around until some business case can me made for the benefit of individual companies to exploit a market.
The UK has been running public service ads for a few years now and are switching to the low energy lightbulbs ( that Ausztralia has made mandatory). The new Eurostar trains were designed to be nearly carbon neutral.
The McClaren HQ in the UK uses lake water to cool its building and machinery, then scrubs the water and cascades it (like a mountain river, which cools it down again as it returns to the lake.
There’s a propoasal being researched to use the Severn Bore (a tidal river wave) to drive turbines without actually damming the river (the envrinomentla impact of that idea is being studied FIRST though).
Plenty of other intiatives springing up, whilst here in the US all we’ve got is Massachusetts refusing to allow wind trubines to spoil the view 25 miles off shore (or maybe 5 miles I forget, but really!)
March 6th, 2008 at 2:00 amHeh, no, not you Keith…Zooey’s new stalker.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:02 amOh yeah…
March 6th, 2008 at 2:03 amit should be noted that there’s no such thing as “energy independence”–only variations of energy dependence.
Comment by 5th Estate — March 6, 2008 @ 2:00 am
For the last 40 years or so, the British have thought the size of American cars was crazy. To get 35 or 40 mpg there is quite common. I had a deisel that got over 40mpg. I would have gotten more, but I averaged 90 mph. Along with the rest of Europe, they had fast trains over 25 years ago.
Howcome Zooey gets all the stalkers? Why can’t I have a stalker?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:12 amI hear Scotland is making progress in wave technology. They got a lot of coastline, of course.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:14 amKeith, become a woman. Republican men are intrigued and terrified of strong women.
VW, Nissan and Toyota are planning on making 90 mpg cars next year. The big 3’s warning that it will cost us 6 grand more per car to get them to 35 is BS. If they hadn’t been so stupid as to focus on SUVs for the past 10 years they wouldn’t be so far behind. Sorry, I am done buying American cars unless Saturn starts making 90 mpg cars.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:18 am184…Keith…
“For the last 40 years or so, the British have thought the size of American cars was crazy. To get 35 or 40 mpg there is quite common. I had a deisel that got over 40mpg. I would have gotten more, but I averaged 90 mph. Along with the rest of Europe, they had fast trains over 25 years ago. ”
Yeah. I know, I grew up in England. The original mini did 30-35 mpg ( as long as you didn’t have to deal with too many hills). I travelled over 300,000 miles commuting to schoo/college on trains over 10 years.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:38 amThe HS 125 (125 mph standard speed was running in 1980 between major cities. One of the trains I could catch to get to school would hit 90 for most of the way (I could see the speedo where the cars were joined—no separate engine) .
I’ve taken the Acela to Washington a few times–pathetic, it hits 90 for about 15 minutes.
I was back in London about 2 years ago, went down to Portsmouth on a day trip. Not a fancy train by UK stanards, tons better than the Acela which AMtrak touts.
T, I’d take it from London to Durham (about 300 miles). Getting to London from my home town taking bus and train took 40 minutes (25 miles) so with the way public transport was scheduled the whole trip took
oops again with the crap at the end! Ignore that last para.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:39 amright, I’m off to Bedfordshire…too many typos. Night all!
March 6th, 2008 at 2:40 amOnly a retard would believe anything this retard says.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:03 amNext, Pres Bush will proudly announce that the US leads the charge against both imprisonment without due process and torture.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:34 amMust be nice living in the land of make-believe.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:32 amStereotypes are hard to defeat, good thing FOX tabloid creates them.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:35 amBush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change
More like Bush is the lead that drag us all down the river bottom.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:37 amOne of my favorite writers said that the only people that know where the edge is, is the ones that have gone over it. I think Bush has now firmly set up shop there.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:42 amThis is how the world ends: not with a bang, but with a simper.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:45 amBush: ‘America Is In The Lead’ On Climate Change
Oh man!! Can I please have some of whatever it is he’s on? I would really enjoy an escape from reality too.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:29 amThis is a flip-flop, isn’t? Where is GiGi to chant it?
March 6th, 2008 at 8:35 amTP did a good job not mentioning any important nation like Russia, China, or India. When those 3 countries agree to c